Bullshit aside, what does Sup Forums actually think about the subject of pedophilia? Back in the 1800s, people used to marry girls who were a lot younger (I’m talking 10), and just recently, we’re starting to reform these laws that we used to have. For example, the state of Virginia just recently removed a law that made it legal for adult men to marry 12-year-olds.
>inb4 Matthew 18:6
That verse was addressing newcomers to the faith. Read Numbers 31:7-18, Exodus 21:7-11 and Numbers 31:35-40. Also read Leviticus 20:10-21.
10: Don’t lie with another man’s wife. 11: Don’t lie with your father’s wife. 12: Don’t lie with your daughter-in-law. 13: Don’t lie with another man. 14: Don’t take a wife and her mother. 15: Don’t lie with a beast. 16: Don’t let another woman lie with a beast. 17: Don’t lie with your sister. 18: Don’t lie with a woman while she’s menstruating. 19: Don’t uncover the nakedness of your mother’s sister or your father’s sister. 20: Don’t lie with your uncle’s wife. 21: Don’t lie with your brother’s wife.
Pedophilia is mentioned NOWHERE.
According to the Catholic Encyclopedia:
“Joseph married a woman called Melcha or Escha by some, Salome by others; they lived forty-nine years together and had six children, two daughters and four sons, the youngest of whom was James (the Less, the “Lord’s brother”).
A year after his wife’s death, as the priests announced through Judea that they wished to find in the tribe of Juda a respectable man to espouse Mary, then twelve to fourteen years of age, Joseph, who was at the time ninety years old.”
That article on Catholic Encyclopedia obtains it’s information from early Christian writings including Apocryphal writings.
According to the Priest of Saint Mary’s Catholic Church:
“Mary was approximately 14 years old when she got pregnant with Jesus. Joseph, Mary’s husband is believed to be around 36. Mary was only 13 when she married Joseph. When she first was arranged with Joseph she was between 7 to 9 years old.”
In fact, the age of consent is still quite low in many places. In Japan, people can legally have sex at age 13, and in Spain they can legally have sex at age 12.
In the USA in the century before the last, the age of consent was 10 years old. California was the first state to change the age of consent to 14, which it did in 1889. After California, other US states joined in and raised the age of consent too.
Lots of laws are based on customs and now customs are based on laws. Change the law, custom changes. People just follow the majority.
Jaxson Sanchez
Hang yourself before someone inevitably does it for you.
Hunter Lopez
Prove me wrong. It says nowhere in the Bible that pedophilia or polygamy (having concubines) are a sin.
Jack Wilson
Its the sad & pathetic act of an utter failure of a sad cunt of a man. Even sadder is pedos trying to rationalize their fear of adult women and preaching campfire tales about consenting children craving adult cock.
Caleb Rogers
pedophile Pastor
Jaxson Allen
I'm okay with it. So long as the "minor" is consenting.
I’m not saying to disobey the law, for it says in Romans 13:1-2 that you should obey the government for God is the one who put it there, regardless if you agree with it or not. The Bible comes from Judaism, and if you’ve ever read the Talmud, you would know that it also has many verses on this subject as does the Koran. What’s your point?
Blake Ward
My point is that pedos are sick fucks. No different from queers, as they have the same mantra: it's not a choice, i was born this way
William Hughes
I’m not disagreeing with you there, I was simply responding to all the christians on here (namely Sup Forums) who have said that Matthew 18:6 disproves the above. It doesn’t. But just saying “because it’s illegal” doesn’t disprove it either, since there are other things that are sinful that the law approves of today, namely homosexuality and transgenderism.
Andrew Hall
Sup Forums are not god christians. It already says in genesis 2:22-24 that god created a woman to be man's mate, NOT a child.
Kayden Ortiz
>in Spain they can legally have sex at age 12. That sounds like bullshit. The general age of consent is 16, as it is in most of Europe, and 18 if the older person is in a position of power (teacher, boss, etc). It used to be 14 not so long ago, but they changed it. Although you could be right, idk if it is lower when both partners are close in age or the same age.
Leo Williams
Not mankind either. I seriously don’t understand your point. In biblical times adulthood could refer to the age of puberty or even younger. Didn’t you know it comes from Judaism?
Christian Hall
Arguing over when puberty is a strawman argument pedos use to justify their degeneracy. You don't need the bible to understand that fucking children is wrong, just common sense
Isaac Wright
My opinion is that an age gap of a max of four years from your age to their age is okay, but after awhile just stop dude. Oldest I would say is acceptable is a 21 year old dating a 17 turning 18. That’s not pedophilia to me at all, but it seems the most recent generation of people consider you dating anyone under 18 even if you’re only 19 to be a groomer and pedophile. I really do think people just like attacking men. I’m sorry, but you can’t fucking tell me that a 16 year old is that mentally different from a 20 year old, and also, I thought women were mentally more mature (which they in many cases are) in which case, by feminist logic, should that not be seen as an equal relationship? Funny how they’ll take the first chance to infantilize a woman and make a monster out of a man, even when that’s not the intention behind a relationship at all.
Julian Cruz
>inb4 matthew 18:6
the fuck is this? go thump your bible somewhere else christfag
Caleb Ward
Can you just not fuck kids? Is it that fucking hard to not fuck kids? Pedos are fucking delusional. Stop trying to find ways to justify your perversion. Can you at least be man enough to admit your desire to fuck kids is wrong.
Jonathan Foster
You're right. Age of consent ist totally arbitrary. I think pedophilia is cringe but hebe is legit af.
Nicholas Wood
>You don't need the bible to understand that fucking children is wrong, just common sense He is not arguing otherwise, he is trying to define what a child is. Puberty seems like a reasonable age to stop considering someone a child.
I was saying the Bible used that definition. Also, in the 7th century Europe, they used to burn 3-year-olds to death and torture them for copulating with demons, witches and sorcerers. No one’s saying that’s ok or that we should return to that stage, I’m simply pointing out that the Bible never said that pedophilia is inherently wrong. You can strawman me all you’d like, but it still doesn’t matter. I provided sources in the OP.
Gavin Ramirez
A normal person knows this instinctually. But pedos aren't normal. They rather focus on puberty instead of maturiry, since that concerns the only part they're interested in; sex, plus you can tie that to a number and then argue that age is nothing but a number
Ryan Peterson
Thats the trick though. We often like to pretend we understand what we agree to, but even adults dont now, at what level so we say it was an informed consent instead of pressure coercion?
Wait, wait.. You're actually classifying those, who is motivated to date a girl for sexual reasons, as pedophile? Are they racist as nazies as well?
Aiden Gomez
“Whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him if a great millstone were hung around his neck and he were thrown into the sea." >Mark 9:42
Zachary Garcia
Same thing. He’s talking about the newcomers to faith. Your book is flawed. End of discussion.
Leo Morgan
But often maturity comes right after puberty, in fact, by that time you have pretty much decided your path in life in terms of studies, profession, etc. despite being rather young. And don't try to say that they are only interested in sex, because every person is ultimately only interested in sex. You date people you find attractive and then, if you like them beyond that, you try to build bonds with them. Sometimes, even couples that love each other and have similar interests end up breaking up only because they didn't enjoy each other physically. Not to mention that today people are more degenerate than ever before, and so promiscuity is very prevalent, meaning that most people is ONLY interested in sex.
Jordan Reyes
That's because you don't understand it. Only kikes hates the bible because it exposes them
Leo Perez
>every person is ultimately only interested in sex Asexual people exist
Jose Carter
Yay devil's advocate thread.
Die OP
Lincoln Allen
No, maturity is a result of life experience. And of course it all about the sex. If it isn't, have a meaningful relationship with an adult woman, after all, age is nothing but a number to pedos
Brayden Long
>quoting the bible in order to justify pedophilia
ok retard
Jason Green
>No, maturity is a result of life experience. So we should only fuck 50 year olds, right? Following that logic, you can only be in a relationship with someone that is 2 years older/younger than you, which isn't the case most of the time, even between consenting adults. >And of course it all about the sex. If it isn't, have a meaningful relationship with an adult woman, after all, age is nothing but a number to pedos That just doesn't make any sense. Anyone can have meaninful relationships with anyone without sex being part of the equation, but a romantic relationship is not viable (most of the time) without sex. That's why a pedophile cannot have a romantic relationship with an adult (most of the time), because they don't feel attracted to them. I'm not even advocating pedophilia, but I don't think we should infantilise people either.
Jordan Kelly
An awful lot of people hide behind the bible as the ultimate defense of their actions. Its an easy shortcut to assuage the guilt of not even attempting to not be a shitheel. And if you ever get called out for where you dont follow it, there's a version for you that you can call the "one true" bible. Still not good enough to cover your failings? Well the just go baptist, and invoke jesus a lot. Cause idolatry disguised as holy mystery means you never have to be a good person, its all those other ass holes who are wrong.
Chase Bell
>So we should only fuck 50 year olds, right? Life experience comes at different rates for different people. Its not a measure of time spent, as much as the absorption of events, comprehension of their impact and consequence, and the degree we are capable of exercising self control.
Nicholas Phillips
That's the thing: pedos can't grasp/reject common sense. Everything is litteral, like mature equal 50+, because autists don't understand nuance
I'm saying that a 15/16 year old is perfectly capable of consenting, but you retards keep saying that they are somehow not. Of course, not everyone will be the same, but we can be sure that past a certain point most people will have reached similar levels of maturity and development. 50+ was obvioulsy an exaggeration, but you are too autistic to understand that.
