What does Sup Forums think of Paganism?

Should Europeans return to their ancient ancestral roots?

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nah

yea

What do you think keneticism is?
This board worships a Egyptian God.

nah

No. That is degenerate postmodern thinking.

What has Christianity done to preserve Europe? It is a foreign religion in itself.

Is degenerate Christians favourite buzzword when they disagree with something? It bares no meaning in this context.

Egyptians aren't European, and this 'kek' worship is pure satire I hope you realise.

dont get me wrong i have nothing big against Paganism, but i just think it wont work in modern age,

The runes are wrong in that pic.

It says: "Mgolnir" but "Mjölnir" or "Mjolnir" would be correct.

I hate when people can't into futhark

Unfortunately the ever so tolerant and peaceful Christians just accidentally most of the evidence on what pagans believed and their places of worship.

If there was more to go on one could think about it more seriously as Christianity is not a European religion, it is a middle-eastern one.

I am breton, my ancestors were animists. Fuck that shit. I'm not praying to a fucking leaf.

Right, that is a fair comment. Also much of the history, artifacts etc. has been lost due to the Christians destroying it as it was deemed heretical.

>Ignoring 1400 years of fight against islam

What """pagan""" have done for Europe, do you kill muslims, nope, you're complaining like cucks on a board.

>It is a foreign religion in itself.
not our fault that our ancestors walked away from the truth faith and worshiped false idols

I just found any old pic on google friend, but I would be interested to learn more.

yes

uncuck yourselves

stop worshipping some dirty "turn the other cheek" sandkike from the middle east and start worshipping alpha aryan-ness

Yea, the Christian ones.

Yes, but it's a pipe dream. Too many degenerates and wiccan faggots muddying the waters. Too much lost to time.

Your truth is entirely subjective of course.

>wanting to play along with a bunch of fags larping in the woods

yay

Wiccans are a fucking joke, I'm convinced they are a marxist infiltration used to suppress Europeans interest in Paganism.

yes.
Christ came only for the sheep from the house of Israel.
We are gentiles of the heathen nations.
Christianity teaches that the innocent ought to die for the crimes of the guilty, so the guilty can keep committing crimes.
Christ is nothing but a scapegoat for the religion of weaklings and cowards.

No. Paganism is stupid and based on Worley idols. Thor won't save you and Europe was much better off Christian. Unfortunately Europe is so atheistic now that they have very little moral direction. If they were still heavily Christian another Crusade probably would have been sanctioned to drive out all the Muslims.

No problem, no offence intended.

It's not that hard to learn. Many letters are very similar to the latin letters, e.g. H, F, S, T, B and R.

The pic shows the old futhark

They're as legit as any modern pagan movement.

*Worldly idols

Sure; one should return to his root and not praise some nordic gay gods

why did your pagan gods create nigges

You are clearly retarded and should stay away from Sup Forums, seriously.

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Do you even know about the giants, aka. the titans?
Trust me, they wasn't from southern Europe.

No answer?

Praise Kek

youtube.com/watch?v=rZ87iWfJdpw
I suggest you watch this video

No no, i want an answer from you. Defend your beliefs, rather than hoping a feminised murderer to speak for you.

something came before pagans. someone had to think them up. just drop it all.

still does not explain why your pagan god would create niggers

All human religions/gods are illogical. We should not return to ancient beliefs even if they're more badass, we need something new that is based on at least plausible things.

Paganism may be

Almost none of the pagan religions have a book of beliefs let alone rules, time has not been kind to the old religions. Any answer you get is going to be some specific person's opinion or interpretation. All you're doing is scrutinizing him individually, so I'm not sure what sort of answer you expect.

As an example, some believe that European folk are descendant from their gods, while African folk are descended from their gods, etc. And that is based on almost nothing.

You Christians on Sup Forums are such hypocrites. Christianity teaches you that humans are all equal but you are extremist racist, hilarious.

Literally worshipping the same fucking bullshit as Muslims and Jews. You just add Jesus to the mix and swap up a few things and all 3 of you have the gall to say your flavor of particular bullshit is the only correct one.

>so I'm not sure what sort of answer you expect.
Something that i can mock him for, because that belief is most assuredly based on, "My parents made me go to church one time, so now i blame Christianity for all my faults."
If he can't suffer scrutinisation, he deserves mockery.

>Christianity teaches you that humans are all equal
In the eyes of God. We're not God.

This man is able to look after a family without any of the state's help, he is more of a man than you can ever hope to be.

>This man is able to look after a family without any of the state's help,
As can i. As can most men. That's hardly a feat.
>he is more of a man than you can ever hope to be.
No, he gave that up when he took his wife's name.

But are you not taught that God is part of every human? What is the difference?

Yes. Christianity is a religion that teaches people to be weak and submissive. It teaches people to not stick up for themselves and improve their living conditions.

That's Elder Futhark. It would not have been used for Old Norse. It was used in Proto-Norse, though.

ᛘᛁᛅᛚᛁᛦ - This is what 'Mjǫllnir' would have looked like in Younger Futhark (what the Norse during the Viking Age used). Note the 'yr' or 'algiz' at the end of the word. The 'r' at the end of some words in were probably pronounced like a retroflex 'z' in Denmark and Sweden during the Viking Age (it ultimately came from Proto-Germanic 'z'), however the sound merged with 'r' in Norway and Iceland. Despite the merger, the differentiation between the two was maintained in Norway. 'Mjǫllnir' would have been pronounced something like 'Meldunjaz' in Proto-Germanic and would have been written in Elder Futhark thusly: ᛗᛖᛚᛞᚢᚾᛃᚨᛉ.

>Despite the merger, the differentiation between the two was maintained in in runic inscriptions Norway.*

It was literally formed by Alister Crowley you fucking retard,

The very word logic is a pagan concept.

Is your livelihood dependent on someone else paying you?

equality in the eyes of god does not mean physical equality

You are aware that most customs and festivities we celebrate today have a large pagan influence? Both Christmas and Easter have pagan origins.

>ᛘᛁᛅᛚᛁᛦ
I forgot a rune
ᛘᛁᛅᚾᛚᛁᛦ

That we're not God Himself. Duh.

>Gardner = Crowley
???

Livelihood? Yea, that's what a job is. My customers exchange money for goods and services. Doesn't have an impact on my farm being 95% self sufficient.

>Both Christmas and Easter have pagan origins.
Only in date.

Its a dead religion and no

Too nigger-tier

Do Christians here understand that the Old Testament is a collection of Hebrew pagan stories that were edited to make it look monotheistic by command of a Hebrew king (much like Akhenaten in Ancient Egypt).

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Documentary_hypothesis

and this is what it comes to, you do not really believe in paganism but instead you have a hatred for Christianity

>poorly documented conspiracy theories are all LARP-ers have against Christianity

Get civilised pagan

Educate yourself, Gardner took most of his magic crap from Crowley.

Yup. It's also why i think churches should include more than just what their version of the Bible has in sermons.

Your point? Crowley had his own club to remix into turd eaters. Gardner was the inventor of Wicca.

Yeah, nah, and I'm glad other Scandinavians realise this

Paganism is literally
>not like the other guys : THE RELIGION

>poorly documented conspiracy theory
The Documentary Hypothesis, despite its imperfections, is still taught at all serious Biblical studies classes to this very day. No serious Biblical scholar believes that the books of the Torah started out monotheistic.

So you think Christianity has been a jewish conspiracy to take over the West no?

> Gardner was the inventor of Wicca.
That's just disingenuous.

No. Nice attempt at an ad hominem, though.

It's not an ad hominem. If that's not what you're saying, it's a strawman

So what do you think about Christianity my fellow Nietzschean? Slave religion? God is dead? etc etc

Aight. Who did invent it, then?
Or are you claiming the "New Forest" people are the same?

Christianity in the west is pagan. They just stole pagan celebrations and pretended they were christian.
Halloween.
Summer Solstice
Christmas not actually Christian. Lol Jebus was born on the 25th. kek
Easter. Bunny and eggs. Both pagan symbols for spring. But muh saviour wuz reborn. kek

So Cuckstian.

Speaking as someone who has practiced Heathenism for 24 years:

No. Our tribalism-based religion just wouldn't work in the modern day if it was massively practiced across the west. It's fine if it's done in smaller groups, but on a grander scale it would just cause a huge mess due to population and separate ideas of frith. I'd explain further, but I think anyone who has ever went to a moot will understand, which unfortunately most of these so-called heathen folk probably haven't.

No. Neopaganism is for the mentally ill. It doesn't matter what you think about Jesus and Christianity, you can't get away from the fact that other Neopagans are few, far between and fucked in the head.

Disgrace to he flag

That question is disingenuous, he didn't "invent" something if he just threw a bunch of random shit together that he didn't make.
That's not an invention.

paganism is probably the religions most likely to bring about world peace. or at least end wars based upon religion. you don't have wars about religion until after the jew monotheism starts.

with paganism each local god can be made to be seen as similar to or just another manifestation of some other local god.

>They just stole pagan celebrations and pretended they were christian.
No, only the dates were stolen.
The egg thing isn't Christian, just commercialism.

Fair enough, but it's a bit semantic. It's from Gardner we have Wicca.

LEL nawh m8, unless you like being a degenerate?

>you don't have wars about religion until after the jew monotheism starts.
>(((American))) """"education"""

>paganism is probably the religions most likely to bring about world peace

See pic

Gardner and Crowley.
Anything involving Crowley is garbage, Wicca cannot be compared to Germanic paganism or Hinduism because of this.

Disgrace to our blood. Our ancestors must be despairing how cucked you are.
muh middle eastern religion

You actually believe God chose some shithole in the mid east to have a son? And not more advanced nations like China. He just skipped out Ancient Egypt for bants? hahahaahah

but were those deaths based upon war due to religious differences or just savages being savages?

i don't recall greeks starting wars to btfo other tribes because of differences in theology, instead it was because of empire, resources, etc.

The practices were stolen, the eggs of Easter, the Yule Tree of Christmas, the presents, the ornaments, May Day and the May Pole, flowers in the hair of little girls, all of that is Pagan.

>Gardner and Crowley.
If you're going to put in inspiration credits, there are dozens others, probably far more important than Ally.
>Anything involving Crowley is garbage, Wicca cannot be compared to Germanic paganism or Hinduism because of this.
Absolutely agreed, old boy.

>Disgrace to our blood.
Our blood have been Christian for over 1700 years, though.
>You actually believe God chose some shithole in the mid east to have a son?
Worked out, didn't it?

>but were those deaths based upon war due to religious differences
Maybe not those, but the Romans did that.

I agree. Well, not the presents, but most of the rest.
You're still missing the point, though.

the romans fought wars based upon religion? any ones in particular? i can't think of any that were based on btfo some tribe because they had different gods. Caesar even write about how the gods of the Gauls were just different names for the Roman gods. That was pretty common practice.

More like 1300 and for most people much less than that. The common people had no access to churches in poor areas and couldn't read. The whole Church in the middle ages was a money making scheme. Brb give us money and you'll go to heaven/your crimes are forgiven. Not a very good example to set.

Weak.

>the romans fought wars based upon religion?
They executed people for being of the wrong faith, which could be disruptive to the empire.

>More like 1300
Oh right, I thought you were English. The Celtic people were Christian as long as the Romans (for obvious reasons), and there's some debated evidence of it spreading to Britain somewhat before Constantine's conversion.
The rest of your post isn't really applicable.

If you follow a religion only because your ancestors did that's the definition of cuck.

fair enough. but wasn't it more that they executed persons if they failed to do their civic duty in terms of religion? so long as you made your offer at the temple, you could believe privately whatever the fuck you wanted. there weren't purity tests. you would get yourself fucked if you started saying that only your god was the true god etc. cf jews and christians.

What I hate about pagan cucks like Varg is that they are so low energy. He always tells us to stop intervening in the world and to do what he does and be a home body and wank our own culture all day, but our ancestors didnt literally just sit in europe, we also controlled a lot more land in the stone age, we have migrated to where we live these days..

not only that, but vikings, colonialists, romans, germanic tribes, all sorts of europeans went on huge migrations to expand their world/area of control..the vikings even went to america multiple times..

in fact europeans might have even lived in the americas if you follow the solutrean hypothesis explanation for the clovis culture..also eastern asian groups that migrated through siberia into america were like over a 1/4 'european' during the time humans went into america, yet so many people who are pagans shit on exploration, conquest and migration...I'm not saying to just be a cold blooded savage throughout the world, but still I think people romanticize our ancestors and imagine european pagans as people living in a quiet, conservative utopia(it still pretty much was in my mind)

Even ancient native american myths tell about whole stories related to people who sound like europeans, and look at those giant statues on easter island, its like european faces, european hair colors, and symbolism from places like gobekli tepe carved on their backs

imo, europeans are meant to expand not saying all pagans feel opposite because i know its not true, but countless neopagans just act like varg and his minions and think we should be stone age cave dwellers...imo, he is doing the work of the jews for them

>You're a cuck to your ancestors

>but wasn't it more that they executed persons if they failed to do their civic duty in terms of religion?
It's still like thought crime, and being executed for the wrong religion.

fair enough point.

on a different note, i like some paganism because even the gods don't know how they got here and are searching for truth, see Odin and the well.

I like that too, but it doesn't really make much sense for a God to be like that. Just a powerful dude there.

If you're Catholic you are a pagan.

Wrote my anthropology BA dissertation on Celtic Neo-Paganism

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