Ghost in the Shell 2017

It was good. How could any fan of sci-fi, let alone gits itself, not appreciate this American take.

This movie was superior to tfa, fake star wars movies, marvel, disney shit. It felt closer to a real star wars movie than the star wars of today. Yet it can never be judged fairly because of bullshit sjw controversy, something that has absolutely nothing to do with the movie itself.

The casting choices were damn near perfect if you actually watch the movie, especially the Major. Very few women in Hollywood, let alone a Japanese actress could have pulled off this look, an obviously Western/European voluptuous woman, no matter how much those will try and convince themselves it's not just idealized beauty illustrated by a Japanese man. I can't even find any snapshots of when she looked her best in the movie. People act like there's tons of lead women that could command and sell a major picture.

I mean, shit, that looked like Section 9 to me, and as far as a hollywood adaption of a freaking anime goes I couldn't ask for more. People that can't see this movie for what it is and instead focus on irrelevant bullshit are cancer, and are the reason we can't have nice things like decent anime Hollywood adaptions and more of this great world that was created by the staff of this Ghost in the Shell movie.

Enjoy your nigger L, faggots.

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It is good. Don't be fooled by the disney/marvel shills on here.

This movie was a travesty and went against everything that made the canon unique.

The major is a whiny weak willed woman who is obsessed with her identity to the point of open rebellion against section 9.

Aramaki is both an asshole and bitch when lets the major disobey a direct order without punishment.

She finds and speaks with her mother and was a fucking rebellious runaway antitech terrorist

Its an americanized superwoman robocop identity crisis with none of the soul that made the original likable.

And the spider tank looks like some kinda at-at reject.

Torrent when

Also for some reason Saito is black even though he only has one line in the film.

uh no? he was clearly a japanese man

you're right i was thinking of Ishikawa

you lie sir

but its not

Didn't watch it yet but I'm expecting it to be an intense visual experience at the very least, which is more than what I could expect from this type of movie. Everything I see makes the world / set design in the movie look sexy as fuck.

its pretty but the plot will piss you off

I already expect it to fail in that regard so it'll be hard to disappoint me. Also not a die hard fan of the series. Always preferred Akira and Blade Runner desu.

spidertank boss fight was one of the worst climax scenes in recent memory.

it's like they ran out of budget so they set it at night where they didn't have to light shit or populate the streets with any interesting scenery.

the third act really let the thing down. It's just average overall.

wtf was that thing, looked like an aborted at-at baby

But in all seriousness, it was actually really good. Just as good as the original, novelty notwithstanding, and an absolute visual feast.

eh, art direction was nice but it rarely gave you time to drink it in.

the action was also really perfunctory and not very interestingly staged. You just see muzzle flashes then people falling down. There were no dynamics to the fighting.

I was disappointed during the opening that they used some vague Clint Mansell abortion instead of the original haunting japanese old lady choir. I thought it would have been amazing but, oh well, I guess they couldn't get the rights to use it or some shit.
Except they had the original song play during the end credits. I really don't understand that decision.

major was ugly and scarlett did a bad job

They also made her a whiney american.

i watched the camrip btw
the opening weekend is over, your boss is not happy clearly but you are too late, better luck next time.

"THEY DIDNT SAVE YOUR LIFE THEY TOOK IT WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO BE HUMAN HOW DOES IT FEEL I MISS MY MOMMY"

Wow, so deep and memorable!

you haven't seen the original animes have you. they're all full of empty philosophizing. it's part of its DNA.

The art direction is under selling it... The CGI and score was great. I though what the movie made up in clear action sequences, it made up for in gorgeous visuals and atmosphere.
But the spider tank sequence was pretty dope.

I would add that I saw it in IMAX 3D, and probably wouldn't have enjoyed it in a lesser presentation.

I honestly think the Total Recall remake was better overall.

and in terms of batshit techno-anime, Paul WS Anderson's Resident Evil movies are more in the spirit of Japanese manga than GITS was.

I thought it was charming and my sister liked it

This couldn't be further from the truth.

This one is literally a story of teenage angst.
She finds her mommy and fights the big bad corporation after she meets her failed aborted brother.

pure shit

Also why the fuck do they call her major?
She just got born and has never served in the military and they all just call her major anyway.


The original is about the creation of a completely new form of life.

An AI that merges with a human ghost.

It asks the question that if our brains are basically computers processing information than what separates us from an AI that can do the same?

Did the puppetmaster have a ghost before merging with the major?

Does the major still have a ghost or was it overwritten?

See the difference?

I've seen everything GITS. It wasn't this hamfisted and dumbed down in any of its iterations.

The production value was great, but some of scenes they tried to re create from the 1995 film felt like cheap fan service. The spider tank scene really comes out of nowhere.

I agree. Fucking loved this movie and so wanna see it again.

Scarjo turned out to be really good as Major.
The casting of Batou was a 10/10

Spider tank is an upside down Asus modem

Dont let the SJW win this.

The movie was a solid KINO/10....

Go see it for the love of god!!!!

the Ghost in this is a play on a dead person, since she is a reincarnation of a dead girl. I thought that was a pretty neat take on the material.

All the anime had half-assed questions of artificial identity that ultimately aren't any more sophisticated than the usual Philip K Dick/Blade Runner inspired movie or tv show.

>Eat this shit because a few annoying faggots want it to fail

I think not.

ARISE MAJOR IS THE BEST

>since she is a reincarnation of a dead girl.

It's never implied in this that she is anything other than a human brain in a cyborg body.

They don't play with it at all.

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>The ghost in this is even less of a metaphor than in the original
>That's a neat change to me!

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you don't launch a budding international franchise by making it the most complicated thing you can think of. You start with the basics, otherwise you'll be Warcraft.

It's fine for what it is, and it was clearly made with future sequels and follow ups in mind.

if you keep posting stills maybe the movie will get better and you'll convince at least one person to buy a ticket

Being one of the first to see it felt amazing

>Literally admitting the movie is dumbed down trash compared to the original that it was an adaptation of.

Cool, must be why the originals got sequels and this one never will. :^)

They have better basics to start from.

They went with forgettable americanized female power is weakness bullshit.
Big bad corporation kidnaps teenage rebel and turns her into killing machine but she gets away and is like fuck you!

This is supposed to be her origin story now?

Not orphaned and crippled as a child and the first whole prosthetic body user ever.

Trained from a young age to be able to interface with cybernetics and control herself better than any other user of a full prosthetic.

Raising through the ranks of the military to become a major.

Merged with a sentient AI which gives her god like hacking powers.

Is literally a new superior form of life.

But no they went with whiney teenager has first existential crisis and rebels against daddy.

Just saw it, was surprised how weeb it was. Was good overall, now I'm sitting in a ground round eating nachos and drinking beer

stop making me defend something I'm not even that enthusiastic about.

You know nothing about Major's childhood. She very well could have trained in martial arts and done a lot before rebelling

Someone have that image of Scarjo sitting on the lab bed next to Motoko as they are looking at each other? It was posted from some art book I think. This scene was deleted in the final cut of the movie but they did actually film a whole scene of Motoko and Scarjo together at HANKA

>She very well could have trained in martial arts and done a lot before rebelling

Which would make sense, if they didn't wipe her fucking memory.

Not better than the anime but way better than Force Awakens and Cape Shit

Agree with everything you said

weebs be mad

This movie was sick Sup Forums hates everything

wiping someone's memory doesn't mean they lose their abilities.

Did Jason Bourne lose his abilities to fight when he didn't remember anything? No

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>This couldn't be further from the truth.

>>can an ai be human?

wow so deep and philosophical lol

Amazing CGI work

It's more like if an AI an human fuck is the result human?

Major remember the basics of CQC

Just got back from watching it. Never saw the anime, but I thought it was a solid 8/10 if not more. Visuals were great. Cars were god tier. Story felt a bit weak but nothing too wrong with. Supporting acting was great, and scarjo's acting ranged from meh to great. Asian mom lady stole the show acting wise (actually started to tear up involuntarily because it felt like an immigrant mom telling her story. I'm an immigrant to.) Enjoyed that it didn't have a doomsday scenario ending, rather one that was more personal.

If you have an reservations seeing it, just go see it.

>Never saw the anime
WOW user! Watch it right now!

Makes you appreciate the movie more

3 shill threads

EVERYDAY

having been a fan of the anime, the movie, and the manga

i saw it then watched the anime GITS right after

the homage in scenes was cool, if forced at points

the story was a forgettable clusterfuck with absolutely nothing to do anime world at all

the thing that pisses me off most is there is no reason for her to be called the major in this movie

They never explain why they call her that either.

Its sparked an interest. I don't enjoy anime/tv series because of the time commitment. Funny enough though, I have started watching cowboy bebop and like the aesthetic greatly.

I think this film can be comparable to the old speed racer by the wachowski bros (sis). Visual delight.

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Ok so the movie storyline is different than the anime? That was the weak point for me in the film. Although, I must say I may have to give the anime some time before I watch it seeing as I just saw them movie. So it'll feel fresh when I see it.

...wut? the titular GHOST concept should not be fucking meddled with. In any way. It is literally the backbone, the foundation, that the entire premise of the story and the metaphysics surrounding it rely on. There isn't even concrete evidence that a ghost even exists in the canon.

The ghost isn't just a soul, or just a proxy for it. There are questions of what it is (if it even exists) since it influences decisions on a personal level similar to a soul, but comprised entirely of 0's and 1's.

By GitS timeframe, religion as a whole is on the decline, society has just moved too far too fast to accommodate it. Humans create even more complex social structures and ego/id superconcepts and low and behold it starts to mimic those old religions.
But how can it?
And if it does, how innately "correct" were those assertations?
How can divinity be created?
Can you even create an entirely new thing?
What role does the individual play in a society that can simultaneously exhibit individualistic ideals and incorporate a hive mind of similar ideas?
What is individuality itself? are you individual because your singular nature, or your singular thoughts? without fully braindiving how can you even assume others think on a similar enough spectrum to facilitate your ideas into their own? If they can, does that make your ideas, which are individualistic, actually memetic? What impact does that hold?
What is individuality at all if you're very body doesn't belong to you? what about when it happens to your thoughts, your ideals?
How much of a person's life decisions are predicated on learned behavior or a priori behavior? How far can an individual bend or stretch those values at still consider it moral?
What is morality to an individual as opposed to the group?

The multinational corporations were always a backdrop. The story could be told entirely within the net, in a space that isn't even physical. The movie missed the fucking mark on why GitS is loved.

>the thing that pisses me off most is there is no reason for her to be called the major in this movie
Because HANK got her to work with Section 9 that's way and she became the Major

What I would have liked is if HANKA put false memories in her, making it out that she did a lot more stuff before joining Section 9 like she did in Arise and that she called herself Major and brought that to Section 9 idk

Ghost in the Shell is about an artificial character having consciousness and gradually becoming a way of life, they destroyed the whole meaning of the movie.

the movie has nothing at all to do with either the anime or the previous animated movies

It suffers majorly for it, also it's a severe misread of the current public's ability to grasp concepts.

Maybe they're just scared that normal people will automatically hate the idea that there could be a superior lifeform to humanity and that we will create it.

For you

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It's strange watching this and then noticing just how many things the Wachowski's took to base it off their Matrix

>The cyborgs have holes in the back of their neck and use this to plug in wires to source information
>Cyborgs can be hacked and experience hallucinations that put them in fake like worlds

This movie is a re-imagining of the anime.

It's a standalone film that is based off the anime source material but it doesn't actually fit in any of the anime stories if that makes sense.

This movie is set in the universe of GitS BUT it has nothing to do with the actual anime versions.

I liked this decision instead of just copying a SAC episode or the 1995 movie.

shill harder

In Stand Alone Complex the Laughing Man is a cyberized kid with internet addiction in a special home for kids with that disorder. They are used to do data entry from within the net since thats all they would want to do given free will. His whole motivation comes from what he uncovers while doing this. Since he is cyberized there is no evidence his Ghost is even his, its heavily implied that the ghost is from the net, a unique lifeform born just from information nodes.

They turn people into data entry nodes for a better running society. Essentially exploiting them, and reasoning it is for good.

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I've never watched SAC. I should get onto that

Thanks. I did feel the story was a bit over the place tone wise, and felt too simplistic. But honestly the movie 2hr format is probably too short for an action movie to expound on those themes. Hence the basic plot.

are the GitS fans mad about this movie? I read a terrible "white washing" article with Asian actresses bashing the movie, while I quite enjoyed it.

no one's falling for this
better hope China can bail you out

>Paul WS Anderson's Resident Evil movies
The first 3 are 8/10 flicks. You have to admit that.

Whilst the rest...

if your white, get out of your basement and see this movie, don't let the SJW kikes win

>are the GitS fans mad about this movie?
Yes they don't like that there isn't any deep philosophy dialogue and that Major's origin shouldn't have been told but to me I loved her origin in this.

As a standalone movie it was great to give her backstory in a live action movie and end the movie on a positive note that closes all lose ends in case this doesn't get a sequel, then to me it is a great standalone movie with the spirit of the anime that doesn't try to just copy it but do its own thing.

And yeah critics even said that the movies plot twist made the white washing worse.

Fucking hell

I hope you like Catcher in the Rye. If you do, you'll get even more out of it than you normally would.

Already seen it

>That cinema vibration when Major smashed through the window at the beginning of film
I didn't see it in IMAX and it sounded great!

good lad

i'm seeing it for the third time this friday

>...that doesn't try to just copy it but do its own thing.

Except stealing every single iconic scene from the original. They took everything flashy, thinking that is what people liked. then they abandoned what people ACTUALLY liked about GitS.

Again, they missed the mark by orders of magnitude.

In videogames there is a saying:
>its not a bad game, its a bad x game
This movie is the perfect movie version of that.

>It felt closer to a real star wars movie than the star wars of today
>closer to real star wars

Star Wars is about chivalry, honor, rescuing princesses from evil sorcerers that live in castles and that kind of fantasy shit but IN SPACE it can be argued it's not even sci-fi

What the flying fuck does that have to do with a dystopian near future cyberpunk sci-fi setting with pessimistic look on humanity and how did you make the connection between the two other than both feature advanced "pew-pew" technology ?

>implying the subplot of Batou's love for dogs wasn't well re-created
I don't get you weebs. So they cannot use iconic scenes in live adaptions, they cannot do anything original and they cannot copy the 1995 movie 100% because you would call it unoriginal.

You people can never make up your mind

GitS is set in a future where everyone loves technology and uses it to their advantage like that Section 9 guy in the movie who got cyber enhanced so he can drink more.

She needed to be in this outfit more

Yeah. In the article with the asian actresses, they were bashing how the mother daughter relationship felt strange, and how Oulett (probably mispelled) looked directly at Major when she was being yelled at. A real asian would've avoided eye contact. But I they were just salty they weren't cast. I really liked the mom, and felt acting overall was really strong. I thought the "race" change from person to robot didn't feel strange at all. But I am on Sup Forums.


It's a bit hard not to predict these sorts of disappointments. Especially when they were trying to make this a global blockbuster. The original content is most likely always tossed aside to appeal to mass audiences.

I think that user from other thread is right. This is meant to be a future cab

>I really liked the mom, and felt acting overall was really strong.
I've met some nice old ladies in my life and she resembled my experiences really well with old people who want to tell you their life story despite not even knowing you on a full personal level.

How is it that no critics bring up the bathroom scene where Batou encounters a tranny? You'd think the SJW's would be all over that

cars in this movie were orgasmically good. Makes me miss the sharp lines of the past.

Same. Reminded me of hispanic grandmas that would smother you with kindness. Made me tear up remembering people like that.

No, we all made up our minds. We rejected the movie, based on our made up minds. The things they chose to change are the things we don't like. They changed the entire personality of the MAIN CHARACTER of the franchise. I don't see how any amount of you personally enjoying it makes us not enjoying it wrong.

YOU DON'T CHANGE THE MAIN CHARACTER THAT HAS BEEN INTERNALLY CONSISTENT FOR OVER 20 YEARS.
You just don't.

They didn't even get Batou right. His face is supposed to be broad like you posted, a lion's face. In the movie he had a cokehead's nose, all narrow and nostrils. He was supposed to be stoic, not weasely.
If you can't understand that they way he looked was integral to his personality (the major's guard dog, that she doesn't need) then you just fundamentally don't understand the characters or the reality they come from.

>all the haters ITT
>the story wasnt exactly like the original series
>its american, I dont like it
>shills pls go
>scarjo hurrrr
>unironically agreeing with SJW in that the movie is cultural appropriation
You in the blue skirt

I thought she just got an "enhancement" to pee like a dude. Although she could've just been a tranny.

>"Are you going to visit me again?"
>"Yes... I will visit you again"
;_;

false flag harder shill. We don't like it because it thematically isn't Ghost in the Shell.

>They changed the entire personality of the MAIN CHARACTER of the franchise.
How did they change her? Stop picking at straws to hate the movie just cos it doesn't do the same thing as the anime did

>They didn't even get Batou right. His face is supposed to be broad like you posted, a lion's face. In the movie he had a cokehead's nose, all narrow and nostrils.
Oh man you weebs...

Stop defending it then. What's wrong with you?

Just saw this.

As a 23 year old half asian male who grew up on Adult Swim, I can attest that all of you horny autist fucks are going to like it.

Great gun play, ScarJo and the rest of the cast acted decently, cars and costumes were on point, story was engaging, visuals while not hyperrealistic, had a style all their own and you can't blame them for not spending more than the $110 million they already did on graphics.

Some great scenes and some nice shots thrown in there for good measure as well. Some of the more emotional parts in the lawless zone were stronger than anything I saw in Logan, Life, Hacksaw Ridge, or really anything else I've seen recently other than Moonlight and La La Land.

They fucked up the spider tank though. Also the monologue at the end was kinda heavy handed but whatever, some of you kids are retarded.

Good overall. Go see it in theaters so they don't lose anymore god damn money.

Also the whitewashing crap is bullshit. There were a decent amount of asian actors, and until Asia or Asian Americans in the States make up some huge majority of viewers, whitewashing is actually correct, but that is a discussion for another time.