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Climate change denyers BTFO!

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>Bill Nye
I fucking hate Bill Nye "The meme guy"

>Climate change deniers BTFO
Not hard

Fucking leafs man, at least Australians are entertaining.

>Bill "Doesn't even have a science degree" Nye

I didn't know mechanical engineers were the go to authority on global warming

If the problem is that bad the answer is not the government.

Climate change is a thing

But Bill Nye needs to fuck right off and take his engineering degree with him

He's not even a real scientist. My dentist probably knows more about science than this faggot does.

He's right, and anyone who disagrees is a fool who deserves to be shot.

Why do YOU believe in climate change?

Unless you're a climate scientist, it's simply because some organizations representing scientists have declared it to be so. You're believing what you're being told, because scientists would never mislead the public.

>anti-intellectualism
>"Don't trust academics, trust big business goy!"
>a leaf

:^)

1/3 of all the CO2 man has produced since 1750 has been released since 1997. Since 1997, satellite measurements show there has been no global warming.

Thanks for playing, Bill.

>sticking to the old global warming
>not the modern climate change
>a leaf

;^)

My bad. I shall whip myself for not using the latest newspeak.

Thank you, fellow Oceania bro.

Tell me, my leafy friend.

Even if what you say is true and the claims of climate change are grossly exaggerated, what is the harm of playing it safe and preparing for the inevitable? Better safe than sorry.

I'm just wondering.

Weather or not anthropocentric climate change is real, the world is not prepared to make the sacrifices that would need to be made to end it.

So smoke em if you got em.

That's CNNs token fake conservative that also hates Donald Trump and supported the never Trump campaign. Shes paid to act like a retard while supposedly supporting conservative principles.

>the sacrifices
>most of humanity would need to die off
>implying this isn't what the elite want

Not all conservatives like Trump, my Canadian friend.

>Even if what you say is true and the claims of climate change are grossly exaggerated, what is the harm of playing it safe and preparing for the inevitable? Better safe than sorry.

That's precisely our point.

Adaptation is orders of magnitude less expensive than mitigation. We should prepare for the effects, not try to act like we can control the climate.

Estimates per degree celsius mitigation, using, for example, the Australian model, are in the quadrillions of dollars.

The reality of this debate is that the people on the alarmist side are acting more like religious cultists than scientists.

Him making an absurd ideological stake doesn't "BTFO" anyone but himself.

>anti-intellectualism
>"Don't trust academics, trust big business goy!"
I think he's saying you shouldn't blindly trust anyone and that you should do your own research to come to your own conclusions via critical thinking. Is that really anti-intellectual?

>#consforshillary
Nice try schlomo. But regardless, she has a tenuous grasp on conservative principles, it's cringe worthy watching her shill for the network.

>longest period without a major hurricane (cat 3+) in recorded history
>since 2005 and going strong
>like 3 years after the scientists in an inconvenient truth said global warming would increase the FREQUENCY and SEVERITY of hurricanes.
>"scientists" dont want you to know that they actually cant predict shit

cnsnews.com/news/article/kathleen-brown/noaa-says-its-record-no-major-hurricane-has-struck-us-mainland-10-years

>Ideological stake

Fuck science I guess.

What if it isn't possible to adapt to these changes? Even if it is a slow and steady decline, the measures that need to be taken will most likely be extreme. At the very least, shouldn't we accept that Earth cannot suffer so many people to live on it long-term? Shouldn't we return to looking to the stars and exploring space?

>#consforshillary
Where did I imply that I would ever support Hilllary fucking Clinton? I appreciate you trying to shoehorn my politics into your narrow, monochromatic view of the American political landscape, but it's not exactly as the shitposters would have you believe.

>science tells you anything about what ought to be valued
A fucking leaf.

>be concerned about the health of the planet
>think humans are destroying the earth
>become climate scientist

every single climate "scientist" is an activist at heart. they are only in science because they want to convince people that the planet needs saving. they're not in science because they grew up loving to learn how shit worked or wanted to make new discoveries. they're in science to achieve their political objectives.

Bill (((Nye))) the "Bachelor's Degree In Mechanical Engineering" Guy

The problem is the entire argument about CO2 is based on a faulty computer model. A study from 2000 to 2011 showed that CO2 was escaping at a much higher rate than predicted by computer models (which basically allowed for little to no escape, by factoring that the rate of escape was constant). This revelation lead to a study in 2013 which found very strong correlation between the concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere and the rate of it's escape.

In other words, the greater the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere, the more quickly it is pushed into space. Also, keep in mind that during the Jurassic Period there was 5 times the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere.

>Via critical thinking

Do you really expect ANY Sup Forumslack to be able to understand science at that degree? NASA publishes results based on instruments that have costed billions. How is your "critical thinking" going to challenge that?

You really have to be mentally retarded to not see that the PPM of CO2 in the atmosphere is growing and that many scientific experiences have shown so. Climate change-deniers are way worse than anti-vacciners.

>science tells you anything about what ought to be valued
>A fucking leaf.

Please tell me you're joking, this can't be real

>SE Cupp
into the trash it goes.

No, the answer is government. Antibiotics resistant bacteria is currently on the rise at an alarming rate and thanks to the US government and the CDC they have reduced the antibiotic use in agriculture by 75 percent, they has gotten many pharmaceutical companies to start working on new drugs because the US government is offering 2 billion dollars for each new antibiotic created and they are have started punishing doctors for over prescription of antibiotics. Same thing is happening in Europe.

latimes.com/science/sciencenow/la-sci-antibiotic-resistance-20160711-snap-story.html

>ou really have to be mentally retarded to not see that the PPM of CO2 in the atmosphere is growing
doesnt matter. the heat retentive properties of CO2 top off at like 250 PPM. i think the global average is like 400 PPM. we could double the CO2 in the atmosphere and we would only influence the average temperature by like a degree, i.e. nothing on the planet would even notice. global warming is a hoax and people are on the cusp of realizing that all the scientist's predictions have been wrong.

The harm is that the proposed solution to this supposed crisis is Socialism.

Incidentally, most scientists are left-wingers.

IS. OUGHT. IS. OUGHT. IS-OUGHT.
A FUCKING LEAF!

Lots of harm. How about having your insurance premiums go up by 1000% because the local council declare the sea level is going to rise by about a metre in the next 10 years. And wasting loads of money on infrastructure that won't be needed, because it's not happening, and the actual erosion is because the roads were built on sand over 80 years ago....

Right wingers realizing that free markets can't solve climate change so they deny it. Makes you think..

I don't know why questions of science and the environment always lead to economic answers. I would say the end of the world (be it by climate change or overpopulation/scarcity of resources) kind of outweighs questions of economics.

Not my problem. Let my grandchildren deal with it.

Because it's all about money, and the world is not going to end because of climate change.

For me the priority is climate, immigration, then economics.

Without a planet, we cannot survive. Immigration is also a permanent thing. Then economics is last, because those policies can change year to year.

>anthropocentric
>centric
JUST

It was the same thing with antibiotic resistance; during the 80 to the early 00s most right wingers thought antibiotic resistance was some kind of scam created by scientists just to get free money from the government.

If it isn't climate change, it'll be water scarcity or something else. Eventually, there will be a question that outweighs your economic concerns.

What would you recommend doing in the event of something like this?

In *what world* do you think the planet is going to become uninhabitable due to *THIS*?
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Doesn't climate change work both ways, though?

For example, if too much CO2 is released from the atmosphere wouldn't that just result in something akin to another ice age? I'm pretty sure this is why people don't use 'global warming' anymore.

I'm not trying to criticize you, just asking for your insights.

Bill Nye is a globalist shill. Dropped.

Not the muslim extremists in Europe? Oh wait I forgot they are a result of climate change.

That's why I'm stockpiling food, and buying a gun (which is fairly easy in this country. I need to register to own a gun, but I don't need to register the gun)

>Bill Nye 2012
The ice caps are melting and millions of people are going to drown.
>Bill Nye 2016
The ice caps are growing and millions of people are going to freeze/starve to death.

>Why do YOU believe in climate change?
Mainly because, from even a simple physics perspective, it seems to make a lot of sense.
>Light emitted from the sun has a peak wavelength of about 0.483 um
>Which means that the atmosphere is mostly transparent to the incoming radiation
>Reabsorbed by the earth
>Remitted by the earth
>About 1035 cm^-1 (assuming the average temp of the earth is about 300K)
>Particularly close to the symmetric stretch mode of CO2 (about 1288 cm^-1)
>Means the atmosphere is now almost opaque to the outgoing IR radiation.
>Thus the radiation becomes trapped between the earth and the atmosphere

You simply can't keep adding a quantity of heat to a body without it heating up, you might be able to hide it (in the oceans or somewhere), but eventually the body will heat up.

>But what about other greenhouse gases?

Well that comes down to the "residence times" of the various gases. Take water, water is a greenhouse gas, but it's residence time is only a few hours or days, so it precipitates out after a while. CO2 however is more complicated, so the added quantity of CO2 has a residence time of something on the order of a century. So it's a much bigger problem.

"Everyone that disagrees with me is a globalist shill!"

Temperatures vary year by year. They just do. And, at that, they don't vary drastically enough to cause anything catastrophic at all. Speaking as if everything on the planet is so fragile that the tiny climate fluctuations they've all lived with for millennia are going to kill them off is beyond delusionally tin-foil.

And what's wrong with globalism? I didn't know that coming together to fight things like climate change instead of fighting idiot wars was a bad thing.

climate change is just liberal black magick.

Everyone is a globalist. This forum and all our different flags is globalism.

>by like a degree, i.e. nothing on the planet would even

Can't believe that you're a Google search away from changing your life

earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Features/WorldOfChange/decadaltemp.php

livescience.com/10325-living-warmer-2-degrees-change-earth.html

Read nigga, READ

Jesus Christ, why haven't you killed yourself already you cancer?

>mfw "global warming" was a record of improvements in thermometers the entire time

Where the fuck is the correlation between CO2 and heat?

plato.stanford.edu/entries/hume-moral/#io
Why haven't you~

please see
the scientists couldnt even predict how global warming would impact hurricanes. that was like their main prediction. that hurricanes would increase in FREQUENCY and SEVERITY. they were wrong. wonder what else they're wrong about.

scientists are wrong about everything. "science" is a liberal code word for "degeneracy".

Yeah yeah, and the earth's flat and the sun goes around us

I fucken hate leafs and ameritards, almost as much as australians

And yet I still don't care.

Actually, a lot of corporations have started large projects for renewable/sustainable shit without government intervention. They view the government as being too slow to respond to shit like this and started collaborative projects with other companies and NGOs.

If you honestly think climate change is the most important topic right now you, you need a bullet in your head and/or voting rights removed

>"Bachelor's Degree In Mechanical Engineering"

This is true. However, the truth of an argument is not established by the presenter's qualifications.

>Jack the Plumber told the group gathered before him that it is unwise to kill off the lowest part of an ecosystem's food chain, as this would cause a cascading reaction that would ripple all the way through the rest of the chain.

>Jack doesn't have a degree in biology, which means whatever claims he makes about this field are wrong or somehow dubious!

those corporations are liberals and deserve to fail.

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So this is how we define global warming now, by how many hurricanes happen in the United States.

I'm done, I'm really done. I really like Sup Forums, but you guys become absolutely retarded when it comes to anything related to science. But hey, if global warming isn't real, and that pollution isn't really ruining the environment, then go take a nice tour in China.

That was way too much autism for me to handle. Pic related for the tripfag

>Global average temp. of planet is increased by 5 degrees
>Methane vents melt and increases the average temp of planet by another 5 degrees
>Everyone dies

He has a B.S in mechanical engineering and is a meme thanks to hosting a popular science show for 8 year olds 15 20 years ago. Can libshits stop shilling this fuck as some kind of authority on climate science?

Jeffrey Lord is the new token conservative and his one and only job is to literally agree with Trump and defend him on every issue. It's pretty sad. He gets beat up on by like 5 liberal pundits at once

>logic and facts are autistic
A FUCKING LEAF

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I want to cupp Sarah Elizabeth.

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i want to spoon sarah palin

Climate change is literally an extortion racket. Also china doesn't give a fuck so you're not stopping anything.

>Literally the entire planet used to be one continent
>Climate change is bad!

I'll never understand this. The only bad thing about climate change, is that those waterfront properties will become Atlantis. Considering that includes San Francisco, Seattle, and NYC, I hesitate to call this a bad thing.

You don't want a correlation between CO2 and heat content. Why would you assume a linear relationship?

>So this is how we define global warming now, by how many hurricanes happen in the United States.
it was like the overarching prediction made by climate scientists when this whole thing started ramping up. an inconvenient truth even has hurricane cloud ominously coming out of a smokestack for the movie poster. so the major prediction they made about climate change 15 years ago was wrong. why the hell should we accept what these activists/scientists are saying now?

How about providing proof for this climate change instead of some guy who had a science show for 9 year olds.
And no, not some bias article from Cuckington Post

>that was like their main prediction
I work in climate science, and that definitely wasn't the target of many studies. Most GCMs don't care about the formation of hurricanes.

You need to go pray right now! To the global scientismology gods to send more hurricanes to the heathen unbelievers.

Stop sliding.

you have to be memeing.

but for people who don't know, this is the definition of climate from wikipedia:

>Climate is the statistics (usually, mean or variability) of weather, usually over a 30-year interval.

so saying climate change is actually like saying omg my god

Do you really think the city council decides insurance premiums? Also, why would the Pentagon, staffed by hard core, far right science hating republicans be preparing for the effects of climate change as a national security risk if it were simply a liberal scheme to bring about socialism?

Any change that might actually happen will be so incremental that no one with half a brain will be affected. If the water comes up half a foot every year, you notice that it might be a good idea to move *LONG* before your property is under water. *YEARS* before it.

>a popular science show


For children.

>those waterfront properties will become Atlantis

But even that's not true. Ocean levels have been DROPPING, not rising. The meme about islands disappearing is a completely fabricated claim.

>WE NEVER SAID THAT

fucking retard. yes you did. you cant just ignore it and pretend like it never happened because you were wrong. you faggots have no credibility.

news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/08/0804_050804_hurricanewarming.html

>Logic and facts

This also can't be fucking real. Did you even understand what you linked me you dimwit?

So I'll just repeat what your butt-buddy wrote to me

>science tells you anything about what ought to be valued
>Proceeds to talk about Hume's law, which he just violated

Unless we have a different definition of "valued" here, then yes, science does tell us what IS to be valued, not just OUGHT to be valued. Bill Nye is right, science is right, wars and other economic issues aren't as urgent as global change if we continue to this trend. Fucking idiot.

Bill seems to have sort of a hook nose

Does this mean what I think it does?

Not technically true. Sea level is rising about 3mm a year. Which is perfectly normal.

>Did you even understand what you linked me you dimwit?
I understand the problem fully. *YOU* however, very obviously don't~

For everyone who is present - BEHOLD!
I PRESENT TO THEE A FUCKING LEAF'S UNDERSTANDING OF THE IS-OUGHT PROBLEM!
>science does tell us what IS to be valued, not just OUGHT to be valued
A. FUCKING. LEAF!!!!

>we
>you

Please, bitch. Read the paper instead and then come back and I think I can be bothered discussing this publication.

nature.com/nature/journal/v436/n7051/abs/nature03906.html

I think we need to redefine what the science is.

Really shuts down your atoms.....

Who the fuck is even talking in this picture?