CHANGES MADE TO GITS DUE TO RETARDED TEST AUDIENCES

>Origin story was more in the background, more scenes focused on philosophy and questions posed by the premise.

>A better explanation and more depth was given to the consent thing. Which made it hit harder when later in the film they basically say they never needed consent to begin with.

>Mother scene was different. There was no grave scene at the end with the Mother. Mother never knows this is Motoko.

>All the atmospheric VFX shots a lot longer.

>Swimming scene was a lot longer.

>Interrogation scene was a lot longer.

>Major didn't have a full brain, only a piece of her brain. At what point was she human and only a machine?

>The prostitute character made multiple appearances and appeared much earlier in the film.

>Original ending was Kuze and Major did some sort of digital mind mend as he wanted to live on her memory. All of this was told visually though as the sequence played out a lot like the shelling bit in the beginning but with two minds becoming a new person. Batou comes in after and helps carry Major away questioning if she's the same or this new person.

According to two different sources, one of the VFX artists on GAF

>it tested poorly for reasons I'm not too sure of. Again this is now why it was changed .

And a trusted industry insider on another movie site:

>I saw an early test cut that the General Audience in attendance didnt understand, so they made cuts to simplify it. I never would of thought they would butcher it as much as they did.

So it looks like this is another case of I Am Legend.

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Director's cut when?

Ah FUCK.

I hope we get all the deleted footage or some kind soul uploads it for everyone to see.

>it tested poorly for reasons I'm not too sure of. Again this is now why it was changed .

- Take a philosophical movie.

- Show it to lowest common denominator in test screenings.

Not to hard to understand.

If they had shown it to people who had loved say, Intersteller, Inception etc it probably would have rated much higher.

scarjo still a shit

i am legend 2 when though

It's like Blade Runner all over again

They decided to do test screenings in Texas were people are retarded, and they didn't like it so they added in a terrible ending and voiceover narration

Yeah or you could just the original and get 100% of that and more.

Hey where's your source? I want to believe.

Will he ever get more bacon?

how long has hollywood had test screenings?

Holy shit, so there was a posibility of this ending up been good?

disqus.com/by/NeonSandwich/

He's a pretty well known industry insider.

VFX artist was on Neofag as well.

Where the fuck do I go to watch these test screenings I hear all the time?

And why they expect every movie to be appealing to basic bros and bitches?

I just marathoned the first ten minutes.
I like it.
But I never saw the anime.

That would be like the studios admitting they were wrong. So never.

She's cute as fuck...

How do you marathon a movie?

Be on mailing lists for studios and shit.

previewfreemovies.com/

Have an account here.

Stop telling market research companies to fuck off every time they call you.

There's this great bit in Sidney Lumet's book "Making Movies" where he talks about how fucking stupid test screenings are.

Apparently literally everyone's opinion, no matter how fucking retarded, is considered important and valid.

He didn't say how people get into these screenings, sadly.

Hello, newfeeg

>All the atmospheric VFX shots a lot longer
We didn't need more of this. Otherwise everything else sounds better than the final film.

>another case of I Am Legend
I Am Legend's original ending was pretty shit too though.

After the first wave of blu-ways fails to sell,

>Original ending was Kuze and Major did some sort of digital mind mend as he wanted to live on her memory. All of this was told visually though as the sequence played out a lot like the shelling bit in the beginning but with two minds becoming a new person. Batou comes in after and helps carry Major away questioning if she's the same or this new person.
So basically the anime ending but using Kuze instead of the Ghost hacker the Americans developed artificially which ends up merging with the Major to produce a "new" intelligence.

So the people who decide what I see in the theater....are the same people who hang on and talk at length to telemarketers?

This. I'm supposed to give a fuck about a movie that was allowed to go to test screening? I'm supposed to be mad at the general public for having shit taste and needing things dumbed down for them? That's like being mad at a dog for eating a steak you drop on the floor and then walk away from.

No sympathy for the movie, no sympathy for the studio, no sympathy for anything regarding this or any other movie like it.

Anyone trying to send a movie through test screenings isn't interested in making art, they're only interested in making money. And I have no sympathy when something that is made only to make money crashes and burns. Doesn't happen nearly enough.

Source for all the first batch of shit?

>studio made all the changes to cater to the lowest common denominator
>movies still bombs
Lmao.

>He didn't say how people get into these screenings, sadly.
People who answer surveys at malls, people who are on screening lists for pre-screenings are given chances to see a "secret" or fake name movie early. My wife and I saw an early test screening of a shitty chick flick. I had nothing but complaints and she went with my lead

Shut up Ridley Scott. Your enhanced special editions were garbage.

we could probably sit here and name ten Ridley Scott films that have completely incoherent narratives.

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

FUCK
NORMIES

>hey guys, turns out gits is actually REALLY good!
>the normies ruined it all, it's the studio's fault too
>a well known insider (ie twitter shitposter) told me so

fuck off weeb

that's a shame
maybe we'll get an extended cut?

Sauce?

>If they had shown it to people who had loved say, Intersteller, Inception etc it probably would have rated much higher.
Chris Nolan would have made a pretty good GITS movie I think.

>Wanting a deleted scene/directors cut of this piece of shit

funny world we live in

Extended cut when

>Mother scene was different. There was no grave scene at the end with the Mother. Mother never knows this is Motoko.
The grave scene is in the trailer so I am calling false in this claim

The good thing about this movie flopping is that it possibly means Cowboy Bebop is safe.

>GAF

Who?

only a brain dead idiot would think that an extended cut will make this turd any better, *camera pans 15 more seconds* omg instant masterpiece 10/10!!!

neogaf I guess some garbage videogame forum full of sony shills

I'm sure they'll get around to screwing up Cowboy Bebop and Akira eventually. Probably Evangelion, too.

>Probably Evangelion, too.
I got you senpai

I'll cry if they fuck up Cowboy Bebop. There's no way in hell they get the aesthetic right, and unless there's an unknown who can play Spike perfectly the casting will be dogshit.

villeneuve is going to do your own film better than you ridley

How would you even successfully adapt Cowboy Bebop? The main story is only what, 7 episodes? But the only reason you care is because of the attachment you develop to the characters as you watch them being spess men doing spess things over the other 19. How can you condense that into a movie that anyone would care about if they weren't a Cowboy Bebop fan?

the average American just can't wrap their head around them crazy japanese people and their wacky aneemays that make you think because who thinks in this day and age

You're retarded sir.

>Elle Fanning as Asuka

So is this why we got Lucy 2 instead of the deep political thriller as the first where the Motoko had been cyborg since childhood.

It wouldn't make it a good movie, but that does actually sound like it fixes some of the problems I had. Might've at least made for an acceptable adaption.

>unless there's an unknown who can play Spike perfectly
pic related?

One way to adapt an anime is to make it side story like Knockin' on Heaven's Door.

What the fuck is that? I don't remember anything like that at all in the movie.

Maybe if it was meant as a contrasting visual/parallelism to when she finds the computer made out of people it would have been neat. Like, how it is possible to take the buddhist concept of transcendence up a notch in the Gits universe, literally transcending to another, digital plane of existence, and also foreshadowing the merge between the major and Kuze.

If that was even their intent, who knows.

Well, gee, I wonder what a test audience in the country of Trump would think about such a movie. I'm not surprised.

>they'll still fuck up Cowboy Bebop

The japanese got Kenshin right, yet Kikewood fucked up with Ghost in the Shell.

WE DIDN'T MAKE A SHITTY MOVIE

IT WAS FINE AT SOME POINT

WE MAKE GOOD MOVIES, TRUST US

COME BACK TO THE CINEMA SOON

I honestly don't fucking get it.
How does Nolan get away with making pseudointellectual, thought-provoking, and critically well-received movies that are also popular with normies, but when any other director tries it they get shit on by studio, critic, and audience alike?

What's his secret, boys?

If you are talking about Solid State Society I thought the AI she merged with wasn't actually created by the US, that was a cover. It was actually a split personality of her Ghost acting in the net independent of her and just used her since a part of her aligned with his philosophy (coming from herself initially) to acquire a body for the real world. If it really was the US and not a totally net grown identity it takes alot away from the story.

I only watched the movie once and didn't like what they did to Togusa so I fixated on that flaw in the movie. Am I remembering it wrong?

I would watch this.

SSS was basically the SAC version of the Puppetmaster storyline in the 1995 film and manga. Also, that's not what it was.
Also, in the original storyline, it is a government-made AI that somehow generated a ghost.

REEEE gib

He cribs them more uniformly. Can't remember which Nolan, but one of them is so obsessed with heavy themed anime they actually bought the rights to one (paprika) so he could blatantly copy its scene structure for his movie. He directly takes what works, shamelessly.

Yeah I figured I didn't remember it right. my initial thought was the Major is going all rogue and she was the real...Puppeteer...I think they called her. Her going max rogue like that was almost fitting but seems garbage after the ends of SAC1 and 2. Also everything they did to Togusa was max bullshit. It kind of ruined a central theme to not just his character, but the show. Or didn't ruin it, but more erased it.

I want to say I dont care because it is just a buisness making a product. But with the thousands of people that work on minute details of film you just know lots of love and passion went into the movie. On top of the millions it costs to make, all for a butchered final product.

That looks fucking awesome tho

Ghost in the Shell, the anime (film), ended with the Major and the AI merging and giving birth to a new digital being. The first fully sentient being born of the melding of an AI and a Human mind into a new being.

so, the hollywood treatment in adapting a medium is to lobotomize it.

>What's his secret, boys?

He lucked out making The dark knight and having Heat legend die. Nobody payed him any attention before even if his movies were pretty much the same.

this

theatrical versions are intended for plebs.

it's shooped

also the first movie's designs are better

Fun trivia: in older scripts for PR the blue haired asian chick is bandaged up when she meets the protag and they train to pilot the jaeger by dancing together.

The writer hasn't seen eva though! nope!

They can't fix ScarJo acting though.

Maybe they could have had more Section 9. Changing Pazu to be some random bitch was stupid. And Boma and Saito have next to no scenes EXCEPT for the end with Saito randomly being called in to take the shot.

Well duh. Akira is be By done by the great director of Get Out...Peele.

The dialog in the GITS movie was so incredibly blunt that it must have test screened with a room of retarded people. Its like watching blue's clues or something.

>He's a pretty well known industry insider.
So fucking nothing, cool.

Test audiences are a mistake.

>
>blue haired asian chick
Rei's gonna cut you, homes.

Because hollywood bussiness is NOT making ART, retard

Hollywood is just trying to make MONEY with a commercial product intended to an specific target audience

Despite the unpredictable results, the methodology is solid.

good

Why the fuck do they bother with focus testing if they can't even hire people of average intelligence?

>they only edit a movie after a trailer is released

I just saw it.

I've seen bad adaptations that disappointed me before, or made me angry. But this is the first time one made me sad.

Everything was done wrong, but you could see what might have been. The ghost of a good movie, maybe even a great one, is in there. But what we ended up with was fucking garbage.

With a better director. Better writers. A better adaptation. God what might have been, but when you say that much you might as well say 'with everything different it would have been good' so whats the point. ScarJo was horribly miscast and I feel as bad for her as I do for the movie, she can't pull of mechanical physical perfection at 32, and she can't and has never been able to pull of being intimidating. The major was supposed to be both.

Beat was great like he always is, but he was wasted. Fuck this film and everyone involved on the managerial element of it that turned gold into mud. Yeah, I'm mad.

It's random. You get an email (used to be phone call) asking you if you want to be part of a test screening, they don't even tell you the movie you will see. Just to go somewhere on a certain date. Everything is set up in secret otherwise people would tweet about it etc and everyone would be trying to get in to see "X blockbuster" six months before official release. You are told to bring no electronis/phones and when you go in you are frisked to make sure and they have security with night vision watching the crowd to make sure no one attempts to record it (I'm not making this up). They try and get a random cross section of ages, occupations, genders, etc and afterward you fill out a questionnaire. They make everyone promise not to talk or post about it but there is really no way to stop people except threatening them legally. There is no way to stop someone posting here about it anonymously for example, but they are protected by the fact that when someone does everyone accuses them of lying "My dad works for Nintendo and he said the next pokemon..." etc.

Because he casts normie fodder actors to fawn over and makes viewers feel like Inception is super duper "smart" naturally normies don't want to be seen as dumb so they go along with pretending it's genius and that they know why, to the rest of us it was just a dumbed down paprika rip off with corny lines.

It looks like this is another case of Blade Runner - a bad, banal film gets a heavily hyped but equally banal "director's cut" in an attempt to avoid having to write off the wasted money.

>made me sad

haha, get laid!

thanks focus testing
once again, you make things worse

R-Rated director's cut in 4K UHD when?

Well your mom is meeting me later, I'll talk to her about the tragedy of having the philosophical aspects cut from the film. She always likes to chat after.

No, it was always going to be shit. The "director's cut" thing is a total meme, haven't you guys learned from Suicide Squad? It is invariably a way to recoup a loss.

There are no valid philosophical aspects to Ghost in the Shell. The original film was just Blade Runner with cartoon tits, and Blade Runner's philosophy is bullshit.

In all honestly though, this drastic re-editing of the film is just as brutal as what happened to Batman V Superman before being put into through, perhaps more so.