Black Mirror

Holy fuck this was fucked. The trollface was narmy but the episode itself left me with an awful taste in the mouth.

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>but the episode itself left me with an awful taste in the mouth.

When they bust him for kiddie porn he'll have the same problem. Every damn day

>teehee silly me! I got a malware by pirating movies, wich is wrong! I shoul've bought a netflix ™ subscription!

what did netflix mean by this?

best episode of the season

the only one to stick the landing besides hated in the nation

I honestly feel bad the most for the suit guy. You know he is killing himself at the moment his wife takes his kids away from him.

Ya that was one of the only ones that left me uncomfortable at the end.

That was one of the most painful eps, the rest all sort of ended optimistically.

I dont think any episode ended optimistically at all, at most they had "everything is the same" endings. Probably Be Right Back is the happiest one to a degree.

>hated in the nation

that was one awesome in the end, where his wife wouldnt even speak to him still after all those years. kinda how i imagine trump and his wife right now.

I was talking S3 specifically there, it was the light season.

it gave all kinds of ideas to me tbqh

you can make people do all kinds of shit if you have evidence of them being a pedo

hands down the best episode, and fucking Bron was in there too

search on youtube for 'creep catchers' or 'nounce hunter' or 'internet interceptors' and you'll see hundreds of videos of these groups of few guys hunting pedos online, they basically get all of their info, messages and all of it as evidence and then they arrange a meet, but what if you did all that but just black mailed them instead. you could make them do anything... you're a drug dealer? you can make them distribute drugs for you or some shit like that

different episode g

Nosedive imo ended optimistically.

She stopped caring so much about her rating and can start living her life as a lesbian truck driver.

the one where its about getting "likes" ended good didnt it? she stopped caring about all the stupid likes and clout and made some speech about how it sucked, i forget how it ended tho lol did she kill herself?

That was tha happiest ending, her and some random guy just smiling and insulting each other for the freedoms of it.

Well Playtest ended like shit too.

No it ended with her being a stronk woman and yelling insults at that guy while in jail.

>Bron

HOW DID I NOT REALIZE THAT

oh ya its the bee one, meh didnt really hit anywhere home to me as the other eps did

The bad guy nobody liked died horribly, Japanese game man gives no fucks. That's a good ending.

s3 was only light if you're immune to subtext.

oh ya lol, pretty good ending tho. what if it ended that she got all the likes and in with her cool friends crowd, but was ignoring her brother and families calls and shit just being some "yes man" to her friend.

Lol dumb nigga should have turned his phone off

they're still trapped in a world where all that matters is how much ass you kiss

hell, literally imprisoned for an indeterminate amount of time.

>Bad guy

He was a good guy tho. I liked him.

Brooker could have used his powers for evil, like in S1&2.

In reality (for now at least) you won't have that much leverage over a "pedophile."

The point of the episode is there is are consequences people are more afraid of than going to jail, consequences for things that aren't ostensibly illegal.

san junipero

its better to put the darkness in subtext so people can walk away thinking "well that was cool, eternity in a digital 80s? Sign me up" before they realize "oh right, the quagmire was the largest place in the episode by several magnitudes and it was filled with people essentially killing themselves over and over, desperate to feel anything even remotely close to real and the only reason the black chick stayed is because she got a thrill out of crashing the jeep and flying through the windshield"

We don't talk about that piece of garbage episode here.

>ending of Be Right Back
>little girl goes up to see her fake robot dad
>"i know you dont teach anything, im just using you as an excuse so i can get an extra slice (of cake)"
>cake causes hits of dopamine in the brain
>the same way love does
>the daughter using the robot is exactly the same way the mom is using the robot
>they know its not real, theyre just using it

HOLY SHIT THAT LAST LINE IS GENIUS MIND BLOWN

>The point of the episode is there is are consequences people are more afraid of than going to jail


maybe for bron character but not for the main guys those hackers attack, their main prey are pedos and you will always have all the leverage in this world over a pedophile you have evidence for being a pedophile

Yes, there is always some darkness. Only reason black chick stayed was as a pity eternity for cute white girl. But then they can always permakill themselves later. Still very sweet.

I still think Nosedive had the happiest ending.

Being a pedophile isn't illegal.

The level of computer literacy on display by the kid was that of "going to google and typing in kids and beating meat," not finding CP.

The hackers weren't blackmailing him with the content of his hard drive, they were blackmailing him with a video of him beating meat to clothed images of children.

>people actually think the kid was downloading cp

what digital evidence could you possibly have against a pedo that you acquired by hacking that the pedo couldn't just say you fabricated by hacking?

>Only reason black chick stayed was

tfw people post things that confirm they didn't even read half your post

That was ambiguous but
>pizza is difficult to come by
>UK isn't 1984 and thoughtcrime is worse than real crime

He was completely fucked no matter what

Maybe half your post was pointless standard-level Brooker darkness commentary. "Oh the world is so bleak because bad things are depicted in it" but unrelated to anything else.

Objectively the worst written episode. All that journey for big 'fuck you' ending. Same goes for the 'call mom' episode. What a cunt.

Welcome to Black Mirror, every episode is a 'fuck you' episode.

>He was completely fucked no matter what

"sir this hacker sent us a video of you jacking off to cp"
"that video is bullshit, officer"

case fucking closed.

The metaphor of the ending is that she is happier being literally imprisoned but free to say whatever she wants than she is being superficially free but "imprisoned" in expressing herself

He sent it to the cops and his mom, and the mom alone was enough to get him to do the other crimes they got him for. He was fucked either way.

There is no way those lesbians had a happy afterlife together. Stuck there for eternity.

>Being a pedophile isn't illegal.

it kind of is tho so

even if you have just talked once with a child online sexually you have committed a crime, and if someone had a record of you committing that crime you would be put on a list and your whole life would be ruined. Then if you arranged to meet a child from the internet, that's even worse and you can get like 5 years in jail for that. You don't have to even show up.

So yeah, you don't actually have to kidnap and rape a child to face serious consequences.

You're an idiot. Most of them are well written. What I ment is the ending is completely rushed and undermines the first two acts. Stupid Reddit faggot.

>downloading a program called shrive
kek

That's not what "being fucked either way" means.

The other way is calling the hacker on his bluff and feigning innocence with about a 95% chance of success. But that's not what a retarded kid would do, so yea.

Never seen this show, nor know what it's even about. Should I.waste.my time with getting involved in another basic show? Or is it really worth checking out?

oh no those poor poor pedos
literally nothing they could have done

the cops were there because he robbed a bank and murdered someone

>get him to rob a bank under the threat of telling everyone he's a pedo,
>so he goes to jail for 10 year
>tell everyone he's a pedo anyway
>he's all alone now and in jail for a long time
>not to mention you got him to murder a man too

so


that's what these guys try to do, but lets say hacker was catfishing him and the kid sent him nudes where he could be identified? that's not hard to do, all these faggots fall for it youtu.be/CaNhZezqA0g

it's ez pz

they weren't stuck and it was written definitely as the happily-ever-right-now sort of thing.

Well the playtest ep was trash, honestly doesn't belong except maybe they got to play with a spooky house and cgi for a day.

There is no success possible when you have to feign innocence, that's not how it works. Like when you get arrested but aren't guilty your life is still ruined. The only glimmer of hope left is that maybe they won't fuck you over anyway. The ending was pretty amazing, the kid killed some old pedo who had it coming even more. Very kino finale.

its like the twilight zone of the future, pretty good imo

Why would I feel bad for some pedo? You are being socially engineered to feel sorry for predators.

Those are all actions that you can choose not do while still being a pedo. Hence simply existing as a pedo is not a crime. There are plenty of dumbass pedo activists that host blogs about how much they want to fuck kids that aren't going to prison because there's no proof they've committed any crime.

Existing as a pedo isn't a crime but you will still be punished for it if it's public. It's probly also a crime in the dystopian society of modern day UK, most things are.

>it kind of is tho so
Sexual assault is illegal. Sexual interest is not.

> Then if you arranged to meet a child from the internet, that's even worse and you can get like 5 years in jail for that. You don't have to even show up.
Wrong.

>So yeah, you don't actually have to kidnap and rape a child to face serious consequences.
Sending lewd messages to what probably amounts to an entrapment-enthusiast is not a punishable offence.

>There is no success possible when you have to feign innocence, that's not how it works.
By your logic, the conviction rate should be 100%. Retard.
> Like when you get arrested but aren't guilty your life is still ruined.
Staying out of jail is a success in this case.

>There is no success possible when you have to feign innocence, that's not how it works.
What the fuck are you talking about?

Seriously, just say you have no clue who this guy is and that you didn't do anything.
Who is your mom going to believe, some anonymous faggot that demonstrated that he can edit videos to show whatever he wants to show, or you?

The kid would have been put in an embarrassing situation, but if there's no prior suspicions of him being a pedo, then no one is going to believe some literal internet troll.

Its not a crime. Your life will be ruined because you outed yourself as a pedo and people will not want to talk to you anymore, thats not dystopia, thats just not having autism and realizing there is no reason you should be able to proclaim you want to fuck kids and everyone be forced to still tolerate you. Pedo rights are not an issue, there is no reason you have to tell anyone this shit or ever act on it, fuck off.

Just dont talk with kids online sexually and suppress your urges or kys. Simple as that.

we go over this every hansen thread. There are laws on the books in the US at least that make it a criminal offense to say sexual things to something "you think" is an underage person.

You're right that arranging a meet isn't a crime though.

It was unrealistic, all they have which was undeniable was a video of him 'jacking off to something on his screen', he could just have deleted everything on his harddrive and they would have nothing by ratting him to the cops, because nothing they have downloaded from him would count as any kind of evidence.

Else I could just hack into someone's computer (which is of course highly illegal), download some shit and then add a ton of childporn and say 'this was all on his computer, I swear! put him in jail'.

Staying out of jail is a minor success at best if your life is ruined anyway. You're on fucking Sup Forums you should know better. Also your mom believes that nigerian princes need some pocket change to unlock her billion dollar inheritance.

It could be a crime, some distorted disturbing the peace or whatever that applies to literally any act they feel it should. UK is pretty fucked.

Punished socially? I guess, but if you're such a fucking weirdo that you would publicly talk about being a pedo, that probably wouldn't have much of an effect on you.

pro tip faggot, there's no such thing as 'being a pedo'. behavior in a species characterized by dramatic changes in behavior , can't be used as a valid classifier.

it's not you, it's something you do. you can be doing something else just the same. sexuality is just a story you tell yourself while waiting to orgasm. When I was a kid I would jerk off to a white wall while trying not to think of anything. Sometimes I would literally just keep saying "nothing" in my head over and over again. Don't know why, I'm a bit autistic. But orgasm felt the same. If you apply pressure and warmth and rhythmic motion to your genitalia, you will orgasm. All the sexual fantasies you have? That's all a joke m8.

>tfw people take a little story they tell themselves to pass the time while waiting to cum and then construct their whole ideantity around it

god damn, I hate identity politics so much

NO THIS IS A HUGE DEAL
ME BEING ABLE TO GET OFF ON MY FETISHES CONSTITUTES LAW CHANGE AND OVERIDES LAWS ON CHILD PROTECTION

> There are laws on the books in the US at least that make it a criminal offense to say sexual things to something "you think" is an underage person.
I´d like a side dish of some proof, please. What you´re describing is thought crime.

Some faggot online has no capability of ruining your life if you just deny everything.

Once again, if you aren't a creep then no one is going to believe some internet troll over you.

>that kid in the restaurant

jesus...

>It could be
This is not evidence. Children should be protected above pedos who literally just need to jerk off to something else, thats literally all they have to do. Why the fuck do you consider this an issue?

the entire point of the episode was hackers getting non-criminal pedophiles to commit actual crimes (or get murdered) so the police would arrest them.

If the kid had downloaded CP and the hackers had monitoring software on his computer they would not have needed to have him rob a bank and murder a dude on camera to get him arrested.

go google "online solicitation of a minor"

"pedo" is literally, by every single description you can find, just a label for a kind of person.

So yea retard, you can literally just "be" a pedo.

>god damn, I hate identity politics so much
yes clearly you hate it so much you spout retarded nonsensical bullshit jsut to spite it. identities exist as a concept whether you like it or not, and that includes being a pedo.

US isnt free at all, stop deluding yourself. The US is a shitty place to live.

You're naive (fucking retarded) if you don't believe thought crime is literally a thing today.

Any faggot online has the capability of ruining most peoples lives for the hell of it. You are literally living in the year of our lord two-thousand and seventeen.

My point was more along the lines of there's more laws than humans can comprehend and they're bent by either side far outside their original intent anyway.

Yeah, maybe the kid was "innocent" of crimes, maybe they didn't even fucking record what he was jerking it to. They just had to convince him they could hurt him to actually hurt him. Hell the other 'victim' convinced him more than anyone.

Why don't you just jerk off to gay porn instead of objectifying women, you sexist pig?

>Why the fuck do you consider this an issue?
Because I demand you be my best friend even though I'm a pedo. It should literally be a crime to NOT support pedos.

I think he had some more incriminating shit. Thats the reason he broke down crying when Hector told him the hackers got everything from his hard-drive.

>it's not you, it's something you do. you can be doing something else just the same.
"Something you do" is a part of who "you" are, moron. Furthermore, if we assume that "you can be doing something else just the same", why are people sexually attracted to different things? Following your logic, gays/heteros/others should be able to get their junk hard at the thought of anything. Unfortunately for you, that´s not how it works.

>It's a "just make the same baseless claim over and over again until the other poster gets tired" episode

>US isnt free at all
Certain parts of it are more free than any other place on earth, politically speaking.
>The US is a shitty place to live
Unless you are loaded with money and power beyond belief, it is the best place to live.

He could literally tell the cops the hacker just planted whatever on his hard drive.

holy shit are you retarded
there's nothing different between your brain and a brain of a homosexual or a bisexual or a lesbian or a pedophile.

literally nothing. Not one thing ever confirmed by science. You literally just got stuck on a loop of doing shit you do and you started believing that's who you are. There is nothing that forces you to be like that. It's all make believe essentially...

fuck, constructing an identity on top of your nationality makes more sense than constructing it around your current sexual fetishes

read pic related
you'll understand how and why certain behaviours are compartmentalized and racialized and politicized

I forgot Sup Forums was the low IQ board...

Thought crime is real, that's why TCAP works. Social engineering is strong but not profitable, other forms of online scam are commonplace. General identity fraud is also incredibly commonplace and is a huge inconvenience at minimum. I don't know where your counterevidence is that you can't both ruin a life with police help or without.

what got the kid to shut up and dance was the threat of sending the video of him beating his meat to kids to everyone he knew. He was perfectly fine with committing actual crimes because he thought he could get away with them without people finding out.

You're all over the place and getting yourself confused. The episode is pretty straight forward and has nothing to do with online solicitation.

>this entire post

That's the implication for the first 90% of the episode AND IT IS COMPLETELY BELIEVABLE. People criticizing the ending are retarded.

>solicitation
What? Thought crime is real, there is evidence of it being real. It's real in other places but less blatantly.

>I think he had some more incriminating shit. Thats the reason he broke down crying when Hector told him the hackers got everything from his hard-drive.

Unless they had images of him actually jacking off to child porn (where would those images come from, unless he took a selfie, which makes no sense) then they have nothing that is incriminating at all.

None of the contents they've downloaded from his drive could in anyway be proven to come from his drive (and would be inadmissable even if they magically could, since they were gathered unlawfully).

All he had to do was delete everything on the drive and that would be it.

The shame he would suffer would be a video of him jacking off 'to something'

>why are people sexually attracted to different things?

random experiences they had throughout their lives, the 'configuration' they ended up with is no more valid that the one I could make by locking them in a basement and torturing them until they can only get it up to red alarm clocks specifically and nothing else

>gays/heteros/others should be able to get their junk hard at the thought of anything

yes, literally. You can train yourself to be aroused by anything and everything, and it wouldn't be any less valid that the 'configuration' you have now because even that configuration was a concequence of a training of sorts, just not a conscious training.

No different that even if you hate sardinees more than anything else in the world you can still eat them every day to the point where you don't mind, hell at some point you'll start actually liking them.

It's all just behavior, and the think that separates humans from all other animals is that we can make ourselves into anything we want.

>Thought crime is real, that's why TCAP works.
>a show about stupid people choosing to perform certain illegal actions and then waiving their legal rights because they're stupid is proof thoughtcrimes are real

pedos, everyone.

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pedo deserved it.

Yeah, i just assume that there was some irrefutable proof of his pedoness in there.

Its so fucked up. I feel bad for him but at the same point to a degree he deserved it. Unless it was just clothed kids like some user said, then poor fucking pedo. Very conflictive feelings.

Nah, the law in that specific county in Florida or wherever they film it that season is that SHOWING UP to a meeting while intending to meet an underage person is a crime. It doesn't matter if there's a possibility for that crime ever existing. Thought Crime.

online solicitation is the general school of criminal acts you're calling "thought crime." The episode has nothing to do with them. The kid is arrested at the end for armed robbery and murder. On top of that his parents know hes a pedophile.

I assume Sup Forums lost their shit when the episode first aired, right?

>there's nothing different between your brain and a brain of a homosexual or a bisexual or a lesbian or a pedophile.
>Not one thing ever confirmed by science
Your third wife is calling for you, Achmed/James/Mgambe. Away with you. Shoo.

>I forgot Sup Forums was the low IQ board...
>says the troglodyte who believes in a blank slate
Locke and Rousseau were wrong.

Even if he was jacking it to real cp, why the fuck does he deserve it?
He isn't hurting anyone, and he's still clearly a dumb kid by his own actions.

>because jacking it to cp somehow harms kids again blabla
im not saying he deserves no punishment whatsoever, but how the fuck does he deserve specifically what happened to him?