There is something really bugging me about Alien: Covenant and it's the color saturation.
I was in the cinemas before when the Alien: Covenant trailer played. The trailer before that was the Fate of the Furious. That had perfect color saturation. But as soon as Alien: Covenant played after, it was as if the color was drained 70% on the cinema screen.
If you are reading this Ridley Scott, PLEASE get your film editor to fix up the color saturation because it seriously is so drained. You have probably been doing nothing but looking at the movie nonstop while editing so of course you may think it looks fine but seriously, you and your editor go and watch another movie and then watch Alien: Covenant. There is a MASSIVE difference in the color!
LOOK at all this color while Ridley filmed the movie! Absolute perfection!
Get your editor to put a timeline layer underneath all the scenes and color balance the whole movie.
Xavier James
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Chase Martin
You don't need your movie to be color drained because it's a horror. Alien 1979 wasn't color drained.
Leo Hill
I know this looks like shit but it's hard to put back natural colors on a lossy format.
Wyatt Jackson
Holy shit that's amazing. How did you do that?
Only editing software I have is Filmora and idk how to proprely re-colorize a movie
This is all I got on my editing software as pic related shows.
Sebastian Wilson
I'm using photoshop. Easier to color correct a screenshot than video, I guess. But I've never edited video.
But color grading is cruise control for cool.
Nolan Sanders
>waaah the color grading doesn't look natural waaaaaahhh
That's the point of color grading. I'm not saying this specific grade looks good, but it makes no sense to make every single movie look "as natural as possible" with the most eye pleasing balanced contrast and saturation.
Jose Baker
>Easier to color correct a screenshot than video not if you have after effects
Carson Watson
Bonus round: if Alien was made today
I think the point is Alien didn't need any of this nonsense to be both good and very atmospheric. So it can be done without following some dubious style trend, if what they really cared about was making a good movie (as opposed to just milking a dead franchise)
Lucas Wright
is the second frame something you made yourself or did ridley scott wreck alien on one of the video releases?
Angel Turner
I'm not defending this particular shot but color grading in general.
Taking screenshots of already color graded films and turning them to what you think is the most natural color pallete is absurd. You wouldn't try to regrade Matrix to a natural balanced set of colors instead of the green, would you?
Joseph White
This thread isn't about color grading in general.
Charles Wood
ITT: Marvel fans trying to watch other movies
Lincoln Myers
Did it myself, but wouldn't surprise me if there's some blu-ray edition that looks close to that.
Matrix had a fairly balanced color palette in its original release. Then the sequels were tinted green and they re-edited the original to look green too. So, bad example.
I think color grading should enhance the atmosphere rather than be a substitute for atmosphere.
Colton Sanchez
People like you know nothing about color and light.
Eli Brown
Aliens like LOTR suffered the "Blue Filter" when re released on blu ray
Jacob Anderson
it's so gender non-binary/non-gmo/#imwithhillary/bland it hurts
Liam Young
Where can I watch the non green filtered Matrix?
Eli Smith
The Matrix gets a pass though in my opinion. It's all set inside a computer simulation so the green tint can kind of make a subconscious reminder that its not the real world. I can't remember if it's still tinted green once they get unplugged though, if it is, then I would only de-filter those scenes.
This one compares the blu-ray to the dvd, but they focus mostly on the quality (and of course dvd looks like shit in comparison) but it shows the difference in tones. You can see the bluray is green where the dvd is not, including scenes inside the matrix world
Aaron Lewis
Oh nice, I own the original 1999 or 2000 release or whatever year that was.
Joseph Rodriguez
The 1999 DVD version
>mfw they made Morpheus more black on the blu ray version
The original DVD release also let's you watch the movie with the isolated music score (something that the special editions DVD set and blu ray set got rid of)
Nicholas Thomas
Speaking of color, the production pics of lotr looked way gorgeous than the actual movie.
Joshua King
>dvd looks like shit in comparison
I watch plenty of DVDS on my HD upscaler. Works pretty well enough, especially since my TV isn't very close to where I sit, since it is so fucking big.
Easton Gutierrez
i quite like the colour balance look they're going for. not every movie has to be sunshine and rainbows or look like it.
Aiden Martinez
Not blue enough, I think.
Connor Jones
Well to be fair, Matrix is a bit of an exception as the green filters were used for the scenes set in the matrix.
As for this movie, they did go a little overboard with the colour grading but so did they with Prometheus, which had this unnatural blueish filter thoughout the whole movie, it's nothing really new. Even the derelict ship scenes in the original Alien movie have unnatural blue filters (although it's hard to define what's natural on an alien planet)... but maybe that's just on the recent bluray release? Not sure.
Henry Taylor
Haven't seen those in a while, but I'm wondering how much of that was afterthought fuckery
Oliver Russell
Anyone able to try and get the background here to appear less green and more of a natural kitchen look?
Evan Campbell
Yeah, but was I was mentioning earlier they overdid the effect for blu-ray release, long after the movie had been released.
Pic related, green tint blu-ray vs original color dvd. The difference is glaring.
Levi Evans
the blu ray color grading for the extended edition is so fucking shit. wtf was jackson thinking
Liam White
> The color saturation is awful > sperglords
Zachary Carter
Even Jurassic Park wasn't invisible from the suffering of re colorization
Logan Thompson
that is just horrendous. i can't defend that
Brayden Rogers
See how great this looks? Yes I am using the Phantom Menace as an example and Jar Jar Binks is here so calm your fuel but just look at all the color on their faces? Natural look and nothing is blue or green filtered.
Sam Raimi's Spiderman 1 also has a perfect color look with everything in its natural state.
Grayson Robinson
This is how movies used to look. No horrible filters.
Colton White
>nothing is green filtered
look at the background retard have u ever seen a forest look like that
Luke Mitchell
I may be wrong, but it seems for this scene they might have actually used pale blue to light it up. And I think that should be the way to go: if you want a scene to have a blue tone, find a way to integrate blue light into the set. Just don't then go ahead and turn it green in post-production like Suicide Squad did here.
Christian Richardson
why does blu-ray add that filter tho
Brandon Scott
this has actually been brought up before. Lucas is probably totally insane at this point but his colors were never washed out or fucked up with the exception of some of the CGI heavy scenes.
Charles Kelly
Yes, because they didn't do it with the original movie but started doing it with Reloaded. So they just went back and changed the original movie to make it fit with the rest of the trilogy. Whether it was a good or a bad decision is another matter but at least there's a reason for it as it highlights the fact those scenes are set in a virtual world...whereas there's no valid reason to do it with movies like LOTR.
Camden Edwards
This actually gives the movie a 90's vibe for some reason. nice
Isaiah Hughes
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Chase Bailey
That's not recolorization that's the effect of large blue-white floodlights. See the reflections of it on the folds of his coat and the foliage behind him?
Michael Stewart
I think it's because the bottom of a blu ray disc is blue so it tints the light
Joshua Harris
Because if they didn't, they'd be called natural-ray.
Samuel Bennett
>mfw HD DVD was actually secretly better quality and now we will never know
Chase Hernandez
If the editors actually did their job properly, all you do is bring all the colors and texture more of a richer feel without changing the filter at all
Lucas Nguyen
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Jeremiah Sanders
The blue filter in fellowship of the ring was there by design to work as a subtle undertone of "hope" or some shit like that.
Jackson Ross
Question: how do editors learn about how exactly to edit the color? I am sure the color theory they learn goes beyond just "orange and blue".
Brayden Wood
who's urban rock?
Sebastian White
I miss color in movies. Color and light. What happened? Why is everything desaturated, blue and dead?
Eli Lee
Lucas may be an awful storyteller and an even worse writer but technically speaking he pushed Hollywood like no one else before. Yes I'm also including Orson Welles in that sentence, for better or for worse is something worth debating but the effect ILM had on action movies and special effects changed the way movies are made.
Gabriel Garcia
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Robert Wright
>"What are you talking about there is still col......"
Lucas Morris
>zack snyder stop picking on special needs kids user, you're making me uncomfortable.
Jackson Wilson
There is a fan made "restored" version floating around. Has a few neat features like the workprint soundtrack where a lot of the music isn't present.
William Myers
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Kayden Reed
even two towers is not spared this faggotry, though it is not as horrid as it was in fellowship
Carson Sanders
The way Snyder made Justice League really pisses me off with the filter so I HAVE to share it.
Can anyone somehow fix this horrible blue and orange?
Caleb Nguyen
>implying that's not kino
Cameron Edwards
>editors >doing anything with the color grade
why am I still surprised that most of this board is just bunch of clueless ignorant plebeians
Luis Young
DC universe: constant thunderstorms & abandoned streets
Jordan Wright
I made this for the webm thread
Brayden Moore
Funny, I was gonna download the LOTR trilogy these days and now I see they did a George Lucas on it. This thread has shaped up to be quite useful. Which versions should I d/l, and is it enough to simply avoid anything with "bluray" in the title?
Logan Brown
>HD DVD couldn't hold as much data as BD >4K would have required another format to exist in a world where HD DVD won the format war >the 4K format war would have ensued just a few years afters the HD DVD/BD format war ended Thank fuck that shitty format died.
Robert Bell
> I know this looks like shit good
Hunter Hill
>have u ever seen a forest look like that Yeah, today. It's spring.
Luke Nelson
Needs more lens flare
Hunter Evans
If you invert the colors, it becomes even more apparent how sparse the palette is.
Jacob Morgan
All dat rim lighting. Guy's a genius.
Nolan Gomez
can't they afford more colors?
Lucas Cruz
Ensemble movies are gay.
Jackson Rivera
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Christopher Martinez
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Levi Edwards
I hate retards who think every film should have neutral color grading.
Robert Brown
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Jacob Parker
The sad thing is that's actually believable. I could see them doing this.
David Lee
the thing that really bugs me about this movie is that its an exact fucking copy of the previous one with the same plot >a bunch of normie scientists go to an alien planet and insist on poking the alien and treat it like its a fucking puppy which leads to the entire crew being fucked
Nolan Scott
>boo hoo, the acting script production design and costuming is fine but the COLOR SATURATION
Literally fuck you. If you don't like Ridley Scott movies, don't go see Ridley Scott movies.
If you don't like cinematographer Dariusz Wolski, don't go see his movies.
Problem solved.
Henry Cook
This.
It's a movie, not real life. That's why characters never take a shit, there's always parking closeby, and every character isn't named "Mike Johnson."
Justin Ross
Ridley Scott hasn't had a hit since 2000. He's desperate, so is making this and producing the Blade Runner sequel.
Problem is, Aliens > Alien and Ridley doesn't know how to make Aliens, just Alien. Ya dig?
Adrian Hill
lol it's supposed to be a dark horror sci-fi film
Mason Myers
as evident by the picture you posted, dark horror can still work with vibrant colors.
Camden Lee
Lol just put a filter to make it a dark horror sci-fi film bro XD
Brayden Mitchell
One of the most retarded threads I've ever seen. You don't grade for natural anything, you grade for a dark theater ...whilst in the dark.
Luke Sanders
> I've never watched a movie before.
Hipster faggot. I bet you bitch at everyone on Instagram who uses a filter.
Daniel White
kek.
I seriously hate modern color grades. don't even get me started on highlight levels and projector foot lamberts. I'll be here all night.
Isaac Taylor
delete this
Lucas Nelson
she looks like her cheeks are slowly falling off her face
Mason Price
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Brayden Young
I absolutely love the colors he maintained for the prequels (which JJ carried through to TFA). so saturated, so rich.