Why is it so hard for people to grasp this concept when learning a foreign language? I hear "I wish it is true" or "I wish it was true" way too often on here. Is it because subjunctive is so subtle in English? I know it's not like that in Spanish, so I assume other languages have it less subtle as well.
Why is it so hard for people to grasp this concept when learning a foreign language...
Native speakers barely use the subjunctive mood either
It's circumstantial, but I'm super puritanical about English grammar so I always use it, plus in written academic settings people usually use it.
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>I insist that he is here (indicative, a forceful assertion of the fact that he is here)
>I insist that he be here (subjunctive, a demand that the condition of his being here be fulfilled)
>This dual statement/directive use of verbs like insist, suggest and propose can lead to confusion in cases where some, mainly British, speakers informally use the indicative and not the subjunctive, strongly preferred by many, especially Americans.
Slowly Britain is returning to the correct grammar as well thanks to yank influence. The best timeline.
Wtf you talking about? Have you ever (in America) heard a native speaker say "I wish it is true"?
Tf, birthplace of English doesn't use subjunctive? how terrible
>I wish it is true
Sounds like retardspeak and I've almost never seen anyone write it like that.
>I wish it was true
I do this
it's ok, still luv u.
>Wtf you talking about? Have you ever (in America) heard a native speaker say "I wish it is true"?
No but "I wish it was true" is quite common
>Wtf you talking about? Have you ever (in America) heard a native speaker say "I wish it is true"?
No, of course not. However, "I wish it was true" is dramatically more common than "I wish it were true".
english subjuntive is caveman tier
yeah, that's just using subjunctive incorrectly I guess. I'm not prone to slippery slope logic but if we keep letting stuff like this fly how long will it be until we're all speaking pidgin?
it's just subtle and hence hard to master without being immersed in English. Same thing with Dutch apparently, and some other languages closely related to English.
If we keep letting people begin sentences without capitalization, how long will it be until we're all speaking pidgin?
it won't be very long at all.
>Probably speaks only one language.
>Even if he speaks another one, the horrible American and British accent is all over his intermediate level speech.
>Bitches about a small mistake foreigners make by using the argument "how difficult can it be?"
Anglo speakers are the worst people when it comes to languages, you are not in a spot to criticize anyone's language skills.
>subtle
And weird. And limited, to the point most speakers don't even use it. I like the English language but subjuntive is my less favourite thing about it.
I speak three languages you brainlet, delete this.
the vast majority of humans have been illiterate and languages were really only formalized in the last couple of centuries, so i think we'll be ok without proper use of the subjunctive
also keep in mind that many "rules" in english were imposed by filthy classicists who wanted it to be more like latin
>the vast majority of humans have been illiterate and languages were really only formalized in the last couple of centuries
Not sure what you mean by formalize but, English was standardized over 4 centuries ago, despite that many notable changes still occurred, the most prominent of which was the Great Vowel Shift. And other languages were standardized much earlier than that.
>also keep in mind that many "rules" in english were imposed by filthy classicists who wanted it to be more like latin
That was mostly vocabulary, hence why English has Germanic grammar but a lot of latin vocabulary. Early aristocrats wanted to be more similar to "muh french, spanish and latin" and used a lot of their words.
I've used "wish it was true" sometimes just because it has stuck with after hearing and reading it so much. It's not a hard concept at all, the natives of your language are just too illiterate.
Sorry cunt but as long as you are using American English, you're using a mongrel dialect and can't be taken seriously. You're no different to those tryhards who claim to be a petrol head and show it off by installing a cannon exhaust on their Mitubishi Mirage.
Let me guess, the Mazda Miata is a great utilitarian and fun car?
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>Mongrel
>bad