Going through opiate withdrawal

going through opiate withdrawal
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who else /heroin/ here?

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Die in a fire junky faggot

nah kinda stayed away from heroin after hearing it was kind of addictive

I'm having to talk myself out of trying opiates, cause life sucks and poppy seeds are cheap as fuck.

ive only ever had booze withdrawal. 28 days medical detox. not a fun experience

good luck getting clean op

yea, stay away.

damn bruh, alc w/d is some hardcore shit
how long have you been clean?

Hahahaha faggot i hope you relapse and OD

What's the point of being clean. Life fucking sucks complete dick and is impossible to get through without funny medication.

i'm npt actually trying to stay clean
im just out of gear
also i really wish i could get good enough shit to just OD on

Smoke em if you got em. Eat a large dose of immodium OP

im getting methadone in a couple of hours, trying to hold off until then

also, anyone have experience with IVing methadone?

just about 17 months. spent a little under a year in a sober living place and ive been on my own since

12 step groups really helped

heorine is for optmised losers

keep going strong bro
how has life been for you after sober living?

You idiot

Opiates and dope all start out as fun. Then u go from doin it one day a week, to 2 then 3 and 4.... then you tell yourself things like, ok u got a 12 hr job to do but ul make $1000. (Im an electrician) i work for the city and do my own private work. Sometimes 7 days a week but km average between 1300-2000$a week cash.....

Its a trap... ul use an excuse to keep on medicating such as "look how well i preform, how llong and fast i can work" untill literally without pills/dope u cant even get outa bed. The walls close in very very fast. I do not recomend it to anyone. Im on day 6 of no pills/dope and im finslly able to move around but still have zero energy or interest in anything.

Man, just stick to weed.

Accurate

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cold turkey is always a bitch and PAWS (post acute withdrawal syndrome)is even worse.
how much were you using daily

im in school now for addictions and mental health. i was a mechanic before so readjusting to life has been pretty interesting

honestly, its a whole lot better. every day i felt like i was fucking trapped in a cycle i was never going to get out of. im really thankful i passed out that one time with my shotgun loaded before i decided to blow my head off

jesus man, glad you are still here and doing good
i'm currently in that cycle i feel i can't escape. i just feel i have nothing to get clean for... i don't know

lofty walls most of you have to hit there buds.

I get 90 perk 10s which i used to sell every month but i been keeping and eating them.... some weeks id hang out with my bestfriend and snort dope 3 or 4 times a week. Then in between those days eat my perks.... my buddys up to over 120 bags of dope a week id say I was around 15-20 plus pills....

Still feeling very lazy and on and off sweats. cant concentrate ect. I dont understand it because i think i have a great life outside of this

If you guys can't generally do okay smoking pot and watching cartoons you got to change shit with your life.

thanks user. i hope you get clean too. yeah, finding a motivating factor to get clean is really crucial imo. i hope you find it

good luck, my man

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well, just don't give in to the 'im not addicted anymore so ill just pop a couple i will control it this time' trap
keep clean if you say you actually have a good life without drugs

been clean off that shit for almost 15 months man, kickin dope sucks no way around it but get your ass to some meetings and surround yourself with like-minded people.

Are you black, or possibly wigger?

Good luck user. Went through this about 15 years ago. It sucks but you'll make it through.

how bad did your habbit get user?

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oh yeah big time.

I hear there's a fine now for sagging your pants.

I mean it was black tar but prob like a gram a day at the worst point, but I had been trying to get sober for a couple years before I did it this time.

You deserve every minute of the suffering you weak pathetic junkie

Heroin withdraw is for pussies. Suboxone withdrawal is for real men.

If you cant kick it OP try to get yourself into a suboxen clinic. Better legal and prescribed than going to jail and then having to w/d in there.

you have to be completely retarded to get yourself addicted to subs

Never were truer words spoken.

clinics are strange in eurocommieland
they will push methadone on you even if you ask for/about subs
also they will increase your methadone dose without any questions asked but when you ask to start tapering off they keep putting it off

Until you have seen a 100 lbs wet girl flip a 300 lb bed at a nurse because her eyebrow pencil was taken then run naked using a blanket as a cape sort of, compared to three days unable to walk or leave the toilet.

Well, one is more predictable for sure.

Here in US they are getting away from methadone. Some sub clinics here are legit and start tapering very slowly at 6 months, but some are just for money and give you the govt mandated 2/day for forever if that's what you want. You can move pretty freely between doctors though. If you go and don't like the doctor's philosophy on the program you can get in another one no questions asked most of the time

well here since everything is gov subsidized you can't really shop around for doctors.
i have been to 3 clinics so far and they all seem to push methadone heavily and put up walls when you ask for your dose to be lowered

It's our mandated addiction. Methadone has a half-life that allows you to physically detox if you have to, that's why it was made.

Ours lobs off most of any type of euphoria but helps the indecisive, itchy, leg lucky, can't sleep sort of thing. It also happens to be a synthetic heroin that the body comes to depend on.

Up to the person using the program I guess

I believe this story is untrue to degrees. I can tell from some of the words and having heard a ton of bullshit over time.

why would i bullshit about this?

Trying to wean off Suboxone currently and it's slowly getting easier. Down to a quarter of a pill a day. OP should try getting in at a Suboxone clinic, they helped me kick dope and painkillers

How do you guys rationalize the decision to use every time you do? You know it's killing you. Man up and stop it. I don't think it's easy by any stretch of the imagination, but you're going to die.

Its easy to detox if u have a week or 2 to do nothing.... working 2 jobs and working on my house ensures i dont hav that window to do nothing but lay in bed. So everytime you use, u justify it by saying "i have to get XYZ done today and if i dont use i will be to tired

you don't rationalize anything. maybe in the beggining when you are not addicted yet you think 'nah i wont get addicted' but after you get addicted you don't even rationalize. you just can't get the stuff into you fast enough to make the pain, discomfort and black depression go away

I'm coming down off of coke right now. I think I have a problem.

Shit OP. You're almost out of the woods. 2-3more days of feeling like shit, About 2 weeks of restless sleep with night sweats and a 6 months of post accrue withdrawals and you'll be back to normal. Why even use at this point?

Weak attempt in 2019.

Keep going. It gets easier. I had no choice by to quit cold turkey after 8mg/2mg twice a day for almost 9 years. I was planning to quit by tapering soon then lost my job and had no money for my doctor visits. Basically locked myself in a room for 6 months before I was mostly normal again. Hardest thing I have ever done in my life. It can be done, you can do it.

On a side note, I quit smoking cigs cold turkey shortly after feeling better. To be told it's hard to quit smoking was a joke. Quitting subs cold turkey made quitting smoking an absolute cakewalk.

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because my life is unbelieveably empty

Just smoke weed. Poppy seed are only worth it if you're actually in pain. Otherwise you'll end up losing weight, constipated, and possibly have dental issue. They can be fun occasionally but yet, just not worth it unless really needed.

I know we're all anons here, but I'm genuinely pulling for each of you that are trying to get out of it. One day at a time boys, be stronger than your demons. Especially when it feels impossible.

Live by the sword, die by the sword. I have no sympathy for druggies. Die in a fire faggot.

Nicee one Elon Musky...

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You're obviously high as fuck now, seeing as you wrote that at a second grade level.

I think that internet access exacerbates drug addiction.

Fortunately I'm not, hopefully you get through this bro

Narcan should be outlawed, and you loser fucks should be left alone to off yourselves. You're worthless drains on society and the world would be much better off without you all.

I think you should just stick with weed, bro. Get well soon.

6 days sober. Im at work typing with cold wet fingers.

Hope you get clean and stay clean.

kinda, but it also frants access to a lot of harm reduction resources

Overdose and make some room for those of us who aren’t junky retards

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I'm trying to quit drinking but relapsed, I had fever and the shakes and they told me to start drinking immediately then come for detox

I ate twice today and I'm kind a sober now a. It's ok.

Being sober is ok at first but then I get nausea, low blood sugar or something, I get dizzy and feel like I'm in a tumble dryer.

If I get through that it's shakes, paranoia, sleep deprivation.

Luckily I have a good temprement as a drunk, I've done detox three times now but it's too easy to relapse when I lose my tolerance

Start buying everyone's junk for them, I dare you lol.

Get on Lyrica ASAP, shit will save your life as it will mine. Also think about Suboxone treatment. Helped me stay clean for two years while I figured my shit out. It WILL get better the physical side effects last about a week or two and during that time it will be hell on earth but a worthwhile investment in life, hence why I mentioned Lyrica. Try to get a doctor to write you a script of 300mg PO x2 a day you won't regret it. And it's not a narcotic

Been through opiate, suboxone, and alcohol withdraw.
Never fun, but sober living has been great.

I hope everyone who does opiates of any kind dies outdoors and anyone they ever knew doesn't miss them.

Don't do this, that shit WILL kill you from heart arrhythmias. And it's not worth the shitty, dirty high it brings. Always use immodium sparingly when withdrawing.

Yes don't fucking do it, it burns your veins like crazy and isn't worth it AT ALL. Plus it's more efficient and effective to take it orally like its supposed to be.

Sounds like an opiate user's prayer.

No really? I have never known anyone to use it for a high you burnout.

bro get some Suboxone homie

True. It's fascinating how someone can be so deep into addiction that they truly don't want to live and so many resources are wasted trying to stop them. Just die. If anything, give them a giant bag of heroin. That would be substantially cheaper.

It’s a fair trade I think. If you take suboxone, stay clean (no alcohol, no weed), and go to therapy, you can do really well. I was on suboxone for years and got a medical degree so I can help other people with this problem. Withdrawal was one of the worst experiences of my life but I did get very far following my doctor’s directions.

Tips: Clonidine is the best damn medication out there for withdrawal (aside from an opiate). It’s not a controlled substance and literally any urgent care will give it to you if you tell them you’re in withdrawal.

DO NOT I REPEAT DO NOT IV METHADON!!! iv addict here !! there a a website documenting this dude who ived it and he lost both his arms!!! they made that pink liquid not to be ived!! also there is no rush if you do pull it off

Censorship doesn't work. The truth is dirty, but it is the truth.

Actually it's phenobarbital but congratulations good for you.

Forced tapers (for instance, at 6 months) are the kind of thing that sound legit in theory but every study over the last 5-10 years have shown that this just results in relapse and a higher mortality rate than indefinite treatment.

Current society guidelines say that it’s different for every patient, but when in doubt, err on the side of longer or indefinite treatment.

Except this is currently incredibly stigmatic.

In the grand scheme of things I've been on Suboxone for 3 years at 24mg and withdrawal wasn't even half as bad as H.

On some real shit, get out while you're still alive. You'll eventually lose all your money due to gaining a horse tolerance or die from a bad batch. I was fortunate to survive 3 overdoses from a fent batch. Lost 6 friends from heroin/fent overdoses. I've been clean for 3 months, which ain't shit. I was clean for 2 1/2 years until I relapsed.

That relapse costed me my gf of 3 years, put me in massive debt, lost a good job, immediate family disowned me, became homeless, and depressed. Hell, I'm still depressed because I've lost everything, but I'm trying to slowly get myself together again.

If you're going to be clean, you'll have to know that you'll fight this battle for the rest of your life. You have to come out strong Sup Forumsrother

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Phenobarb is good but there are a few reasons I didn’t mention it.

1) it’s generally considered a very bad idea to give an addict in withdrawal access to addictive pills that are fatal in overdose

2) the doses that ward off withdrawal are often pretty sedating. The lower doses help with anxiety but you need higher doses to touch the physical symptoms

3) Very few doctors gave experience with phenobarb and finding one who will use it is almost impossible for the average joe

Just say Methadone fucks with your heart too much as it does A LOT of people who take it, then they cannot legally prescribe it to you full well knowing that information. Subs last longer and are stronger anyways imo

Not nearly as stigmatic as being a user of street opiates.

The only way to know if someone is on suboxone is to urine test them or look at their medical records. Medical records are confidential and urine tests will pick up other opiates.

If your argument is that it’s more stigmatic than being clean, sure. But being totally “clean” is both 1) often unrealistic in the long term, and 2) potentially dangerous without a safety net - the urge to use never goes away, it just lies in wait. If you make street drugs more accessible than suboxone/methadone, the outcomes are often fatal

It's just like smoking, you know it's slowly killing you but you keep doing it. That's just the thing, you don't rationalize anything at that point. Addiction is addiction and your take is a poorly uneducated one.

Inpatient. Biologically, technically "the best" medication. Don't tell me you never met a narcissist.

1) you know as well as I do we are liquifying their brains in favor of covering everyone's PC so the don't technically die directly from "a prescribed medication"
2) pre existing non life treating conditions do not contradict the application of the most effective medication
3) Yeah that's true damn contracted Egyptian resident students from fuckistan clogging a system that has no such thing as a "family doctor" while being flooded with people who don't want to get better being treated with inexperienced candor.

Hermes would slap our shit.

THEN MAKE TIME. I'm a recovering addict of 2 years and if you keep making excuses it won't happen. If you make time and actually put in the effort and stop with the excuses you CAN succeed. It's a worthwhile investment of two-three weeks over a lifetime of being dope sick.

going through the same right now. I had a bottle of liquor and 2 Beer yesterday. The day before that 16 Beer. How long have you been drinking to get w/d like you described. Been drinking for a month almost every day and I think I might make it. I feel like Alkohol isnt nearly as bad as Diazepame or Tramadol, those two were hell to get off

Aka, if you don't hide it to the roughest edge of society you're basically shooting up. Get a clue.

Tbh Coke is a very fucking easy withdrawal. 3 days and you're fine. That stuff is a shit high for super $$$ anyways.

Inpatient detox facilities are closing every day and unfortunately are becoming a thing of the past.

Agreed with the foreign grad comment. It feels like most foreign grads are too risk-averse and patient care suffers. Also, it feels like many of them are in medicine for the worst reasons (prestige).

I don’t really understand your “liquefying brain” comment though

Please explain this comment

And yet you sit back and guzzle booze and smoke a pack a day and yet were all demonized for starting with legal scripts over prescribed and pushed by doctors. Inb4 don't take it, when you have a shattered tibia Tylenol isn't going to fucking cut it.

Anti depressants. Mood stabilizers. Things like Lyrica, nuerontin.

The numbers are great for extreme cases where you've tried everything but swinging them upside down and a lobotomy.

Just wait for the day if you ever get into a car accident or break your leg, then you'll be screaming for fucking opiates LUL. what a piss poor take you have friend.