When did science stop?

i use to think /pol was crazy when they busted out IQ and Race Studies from the 80s. but now i have realized that you cant study race anymore.

This summer i was doing some biomed research and I had to learn a bunch of shit about how studying race and revealing facts can upset people, and is therefore restricted under some umbrella organization. Its somehow morally wrong (according to the academia) to find any difference in races. the example they used, i shit you not, was a study that revealed high rates of inbreeding within Jewish Americans. now all jew jokes aside i think its morally wrong not to study this kind of shit. the Amish community also has the same problem and i really hope someone educates those poor fuckers aswell

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Not surprised. I don't see what they are protecting by censoring race research.

> muh nazis
> muh genocide
> muh civil rights

They live in la la land and then are the same ones to virulently attack religion (okay, just Christianity.)

Because clearly if it were known that these races were biologically inferior da rayciss whitie would rise up in the streets to kill them all.

Because its bullshit that stormfags keep spouting despite being proven wrong time and time again.

There are chimp groups that are further apart genetically than any two humans.

What is the umbrella organization that restricts or recommends restriction into this field of science?

Knowing is half the battle user and it seems like every time someone posts some shit they've learned the specifics about the who and what are left out. Professors, universities, in this case organizations are not named specifically. Frustrating but I guess this is all Sup Forums can be.

i forget
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Amish are well aware of it actually.
They routinely attempt to bring new people into the heard.
They also allow they're young adults to leave and explore the world outside of their community, in part to get pregnant by a random guy and come back with new DNA.

i always love when people figure this shit out. look what happened to james watson. he's one of the greatest and most important geneticists of the 20th century and yet they blackballed him out of the scientific community because he he dared to say blacks are not genetically equal

that's the problem with liberals. their ideology fails because it starts on the false premise that we all are equal when that's not the reality

>science was ever fucking objective.... just cause we say we wuz objective... pfft

Where are those two jackals referred to as different species, and can they produce reproductively viable offspring together?

You can conduct genetic studies on races, but it generally has to be of particular populations (e.g. East Africans, Bantus, Ashkenazi Jews, Mizrahi Jews, etc.) and not be construed as evidence of superiority of one group over another. There have been plenty of studies studying the genetic variation of human populations.

As for your pic, the line between species is quite blurred. It's traditionally taught that a species are defined as a group of organisms which can produce fertile offspring, but actually, we can sometimes see interbreeding between different (but closely related) species. It's also a fallacy to suggest that a significant difference in appearance means they should be two different species. Domestic dogs are considered a single species and have even greater phenotypic diversity than we do. My area of research is not in human or mammalian evolutionary biology, but perhaps it would be more accurate to place certain groups of humans into different subspecies based on genetic distance, but do not take that as fact. The fact that there's evidence that human ancestors interbred with each other complicates this further.

Anyway, I think the key thing is that it's always difficult to look at yourself and identify who or what you are, whether as an individual or a species. It was easier to split the Archaea and Bacteria into their respective domains as they could not protest the decision.

this is the site
citiprogram.org/
but im locked out now
i need to find my student shit

found it

Just fuck me and the rest of the planet.
Crash and burn baby, crash and burn- cause facts can cause damage....

UNESCO

It was decided in the 50s race question papers that even though eugenic research may be true, it is too divisive to pursue it politically. UNESCO is the giga niga Sup Forums final boss

Fuck everything, I hate the scientific community, why the fuck do they care less about reality and more about "morality". What happened to seeking truth in all it's forms?

cough*grants*cough

check and mate on our scientific "method"

ITT: People who never read a biology textbook share their memes about black people and white people being distantly related.

This was the turning point where science was cucked.

Pdf file. Beginning of virtue signalling by race. And you bet it was the kikes all along.

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it gets better guys

Fuck off chaim we dont like jews and niggers around here.

You're a kike defending niggers, so that puts you at the top of the list.

>or with their religious beliefs

It is your ideological premise that we are not equal, which is why you push forward nonscientific concepts like race, and try to make the world fit your preconception.

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A species is a group of genetically varied organisms that can breed with one another and still have fertile offspring. A wolf can fuck a fox and no offspring is produced, so not the same species. A donkey can fuck a horse and have offspring, but the resulting mule can nit have offspring, therefore donkeys and horses are different species. The blackest nig nog can fuck the whitest hipster, but fertile offspring will still be produced.

If you want to see larger species variants than even race in humans, look at the different breeds of domesticated dogs abd cats.

Something I heard recently, black psychiatric patients may be getting prescribed higher dosages of psychiatric drugs than is healthy due to unacknowledged differences in how black and white bodies and brains metabolize such drugs. Treating all races the same can be literally bad for one's health. As a white man with a black wife and biracial child, I'd be heartened to hear of biomedical research on such matters; I don't see how it can be anything but beneficial.

Science is not politics. You have no conception of how research works, and read into it your own biased notions in the same way a postmodernist tries to deconstruct truth.

In other words you are applying the wrong tools for the job, and embarrass yourself.

honestthinking.org/en/unesco/index.html

Here are a list of the race question papers. Start with 1950 race question - it gets increasingly cucked and self serving. Perfect if you need to get enraged for the upcomimg RaHoWa

If you work in research then you must already know that politics has no place in it. In which case you would be attacking a political group in place of what the science says, meaning that you would only find the wrong outcome.

Filter this kikeposter.

Disinfo kike shills can't be reasoned with.

I'm a biology major myself.
I even helped wwith research on the relationship of new world kingsnakes and African brown snakes.
So please tell me how "race" doesn't exist, but every other organism on the planet can be divided into subspecies based on trivial facts like hair color...

See image.

The only problem with eugenics is that Jews and Asians are at the top of the food chain.

this is how we spot a cuck shill from reddit. xi was here to shill, but as we can see this topic is clearly triggering xir so xi is going off script

you're on the wrong side of history, cuck

omg same species

Yet in the race question papers they acknowledge the veracity of eugenicists' claims, yet conclude that they should ignore the evidence because of muh subhumans.

>not knowing there are 2 kinds of race
>1 is social, 1 is scientific
Guess what kind racism is based on.
Hint: it's not scientific

Kikes gonna kike. Prove you arent one, shekelberg.

That chart is arbitrary as fuck. The whole point of an argument is to destabilize your opponents logical framework. You can do that with almost all of these.

op is butchered. i bet op is christian hurr durr

When Jews began to dominate and were not called out for being biased toward hiring, collaborating, through their bureaucracies determining who gets funding for what research, and publishing jew science, which is by the numbers the most redacted of all works in scientific journals but still noone calls them out... Jews control science today.

gg

I can't see shit

Rockefeller Foundation gives a lot of academic grants

> c) Does your work affect people in one or more of the geographic areas in which the Foundation works? The Foundation works in regions where we can leverage our assets, experience, and expertise to help realize smart globalization. See where the Foundation works.

rockefellerfoundation.org/our-work/grants/what-we-fund/

This whole misunderstanding is because people don't learn the definition of subspecies, which exactly defines the social construct of "race".

Lichanura trivirgata gracia ( desert rosy boa sub species)

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Lichanura trivirgate saslowi (Baja rosy boa sub species)

why does no one else on pol talk about the Rockefellers? they have so much power and basically sculped the the modern world. but I guess jew jokes are more fun.

Race is a concept which originated in external features originally, like skin color and hair, cheek bones, etc. It comes from an era before we really understood our genetic lineage.

Once we learned more about genetics, especially over the last two decades or so, we were able to start mapping our actual lineage rather than make superficial guessed based on how we look. The result is that the 'races' were found to be based on many tribes with certain traits, with isolation in some cases and mixing in others.

In other words, scientifically speaking, the concept of race doesn't really hold up and is more like nationality than a useful indicator of your genetics.

Even more damning is that, at least in the US, race is self-identified. That means things like IQ tests and crime statistics are skewed because lots of people who look white identify as hispanic, or black. Lots of people who look Hispanic identify as white, etc. Pic related.

Go to hell DFP

Just fight stupid with facts. Pic related.

What fucking science are you talking about? The big bang theory TV show?

Most modern people are hybrids of known races (human subspecies)
That does not exclude the fact that race is real.
Genetic variance of Asiatic lions and African lions is 1/3 of the genetic variance of northern europeans and sub Saharan Africans.

Sounds to me like you never really learned how to reason if you think that way.

>stormfags pseudo science

>You can conduct genetic studies on races, but it generally has to be of particular populations (e.g. East Africans, Bantus, Ashkenazi Jews, Mizrahi Jews, etc.) and not be construed as evidence of superiority of one group over another.

Prejudicing both the questions asked and the answers permitted. "Superiority" isn't a meaningful term obviously, but showing any statistically meaningful result which differentiates traits which could be linked with political agendas is right out of the question.

Meaning the real answers are forbidden.

Maybe because the word "race" shouldent exist. I've never heard of animals being scientifically classed into "races" like where the fuck did that word even come from?

You did not understand the argument I made. I said that what we call 'races' are in fact mixtures of many different sub-groups which form a distant lineage, and on top of that the sub-groups do not even exactly correspond to races as they themselves lack strict definitions.

In other words, 'race' is more like nationality than a genetic group like subspecies. It's like saying 'Mexican' is an homogeneous group.

>try to make the world fit your preconception
I can't think of a group that projects more than leftists.
>here's some evidence that we're not the same
>nope, we're the same, that evidence is invalid because "unproven idea"
>here's evidence against "unproven idea"
>then it's "different unproved idea" you've been debunked
Always with the semantics and wordplay to dodge the point instead of confronting it.
I care about the function of society with certain groups, not the specific wording and divisions of these groups.
That can be left to the biologists once they're allowed to discuss it again.

Race is a Norman French import and means breed. Read a dictionary.

>It's like saying 'Mexican' is an homogeneous group.
No it's not you imbecile. "Mexican" is a nationality.
It would be like arguing that Aztecs are a distinguishable group.
You can't even argue semantics right.

>A leaf's shitpost.

Clades then. The term is irrelevant but humans are apparently unique in that we can't be meaningfully grouped into clades based on ancestral lineages. What a happy coincidence for the SJWs.

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>blah blah blah leftist
See pic.

>Let biologists be free
Sounds like 'academic freedom' again. The same cry of those left in the dust of scientific iconoclasty.

The gist of it is that you need races to exist, and you need peoples to be measurable different in intellect, so that your ideology works. You put the cart before the horse. Your picture doesn't even support you, because it does not mention races.

That's literally backwards - the notion of human population groups having different characteristics proceeds from direct observation. While I'm happy to acknowledge that "There is no variation between groups for trait X" is in fact the correct null hypothesis, the *only* answer you're willing to accept is that the null is always true, and that no test should be allowed which could falsify it.

That's ideology over knowledge.

Race exist but 'Asian' 'White' 'Black' etc: same fucking species...I'm done.

Geez I didn't think I would need to explain the metaphor three times on you.

I was saying that the concept of race is not strictly defined and describes very heterogeneous groups which are full of inbreeding, when you compare them to the populations which they are composed of (from a scientific, genetics standpoint). In other words race is not synonymous with the actual subpopulations which correspond with our ancestral lineage, and the metaphor with Mexico is that it is "homogeneous" genetically speaking as race is as you use the term.

>completely ignore all the facts and data presented
>do an ad hominem rant instead
Yep, that's a leftist.

Honestly, race basically can't be studied. If you come up with anything even remotely in contradiction to the "we are all equal" narrative, then you're career is over (James Watson may have been very cavalier about it, but he still shouldn't have been ousted from the scientific community). There's a very uncomfortable reality that people just don't want to acknowledge out of fear of being called a racist.

That said, science works fine in other topics. So, the inability to have a frank discussion about the inherent differences in race (which is actually part of the definition of racism, but maybe racism is based partially in reality) doesn't invalidate other stuff like the earth being 4.5 billion years old or the mountains of evidence behind climate change (as I've actually heard people argue).

They are Jews too tho

> the notion of human population groups having different characteristics proceeds from direct observation

You cannot see the mind, and you cannot see criminality in a person. It is not an external organ, or mark upon an individual like hair color or eye color is. The mind and criminality are emergent properties of complex biological systems. Your ideology depends upon these qualities being different and distinct between the different peoples of the world. That is why these threads always focus on IQ tests and the notion of the subhuman. You will never see a white nationalist argue that curly hair is what makes you unfit for civilization.

Already addressed this by refuting the central premise of race. Try to keep up. Also, nice of you to call me a leftist, in other words an ad hominem. Seems you just don't grasp that pyramid of debate.

rockefellers are the eiptome of jewish jokes

I know but pol pertends all jews have this masterplan to destroy the west and shit. in reality they are just self service scumbags that dominate many industies and vote democratic. the Rockefeller on the other hand have been major players in designing the modern world thru their influencial monopolys

It's actually nothing like that at all. Science is full of examples of sacred cows being turned over. You're only sore that it doesn't agree with you, ideologically speaking.

>You will never see a white nationalist argue that curly hair is what makes you unfit for civilization.
This debunks your own ad hominem more.
Because if it was truly about feeling superior why wouldn't we want to name as many groups as possible as unfit for civilization?

You don't see the mind of a gorilla, would you assume they were the same as you until each one individually proved otherwise?

Ok. The white race is superior and is niggers are inferior. Scientifically confirmed.

So what? Do you want an award or something?

What does it change?

>it's not real because Mexicans are a race
Is not a refutation of a central premise.
>ad hominem
Only applies if it's used to avoid your point. And you haven't really made any.
Except chanting "race isn't real" and indulging in meaningless semantics, and not even good semantics.
White nations now have the right to exist as entities and don't have to collapse because niggers moved in and destroyed them.

iirc (the last time i learn biology was 10 years ago) what define species between taxonomy is whether they can breed and then producing a fertile descendant. This is why, for example, bengal tiger and siberian tiger are different species, since their offspring from a crossbreed are neutered and sterile despite very similar looks and feature.

American Jews are Polish Jews basically.
Obviously there is a degree of inbreeding.
That's why we have glorious Israel with sub ethnical mixing and nice influx of Slav genes. 5% of all Israelis are Slavs. Also, Israel imports shittons of premium semen from Scandinavia for the independent don't need no man crowd.

I'm glad you brought that up.
The rosy boas in posted.
Coastal (roseofusco) and desert (gracia) have fringe areas where the two subspecies overlap.
Natural cross breeding is common in these areas and it can be difficult to distinguish where one of the individual hybrids should be placed.
That still doesn't negate the fact that there are distinct subspecies.

died in the 1800s

why do you think so many people suck the big bang's dick when it was an idea developed by a catholic priest (who was also a physicist)

I dunno if you all are ready for the science redpill, it's a hard one to swallow.. it all started for me when I read (pic related) and realized the very weak science that the most popularized scientific idea is based on.. we have people doubting evolution of which there's evidence of each and every flu season when a new strain develops that is resistant to anything that killed the last one, when moths of certain colors gain prominence because of human induced soot, etc, but NO ONE questions the big bang, mostly because it sounds pleasing to religious folks, and sounds neat to people who don't go into science beyond watching ancient aliens.

The truth is science is funded primarilly by big corporations with agendas, or governments with agendas, and scientists themselves are more concerned with reputation and future grant monies than the truth.. sadly, the peer review system has become less a system for checking against wrong ideas and more a system to ensure that no one rocks the boat.

.. we may be headed for a dark age soon if these trends do not change.

WW2. After the Nazis were defeated and the entire idea of White supremacy was squashed, the Jews started pushing egalitarianism and subverting the racial demographics of the US. As more shitskins moved in and Blacks were featured more prominently in society, the stakes to push equality went up.

But here's the kicker: all of mainstream science has been tainted by the Jews. The standard model is shit, particle physics is shit, string theory is shit. Electromagnetism is the unifying force of nature, and what we believe to be gravity is merely another manifestation of this unifying force. How we think gravity works is false, and had been forced on us by Einstein, Oppenheimer, and other Jews who forced this shit down our throats when they detonated the nuclear bombs. Their predictions about the nuke were correct, so everything else was taken as gospel. They buried the Electric Universe Theory like they buried Tesla's career, and fed us a falso sense of security that the universe is billions of years old and shit won't change any time soon.

But we can't prove them wrong without building extraordinary scientific equipment, searching for the tiniest, minute bullshit, and in the math of it all autists are left to interpret the results and find what they want to find because their careers are on the line and they want a Nobel Jew Prize. Academia and scientists had to come up with shit like singularities and dark matter to explain the motions of the universe, because what we could see and how we thought it worked just wasn't enough. The answer is electromagnetism.

what is this, a post for ants?

If science is not politics, then what's the point of censoring race research?

Different breeds of dogs are all the same species you dumb mong.
Just because they look the same doesn't mean they're the same species either.

Goddamn stormtards are retarded.

holy fuck and these niggers go into the crime statistics as "white". wonder what the real black-to-white crime ratio, especially adjusted for population size, is about. this is some next-level redpill shit.

>Science is full of examples of sacred cows being turned over.

Not lately

"Breed" is synonymous with "subspecies" in biology.

in case anyone is wondering, this is entirely false

Well that's great, but a few things:
>you should have stayed in your white nations and left everyone else the fuck alone.
>no one wanted to be here, you brought us in
>your politicians keep trying to bring is in anyway

For a race so vastly intelligent and superior, it seems strange you would keep fucking around with us primitive savages.

>hundreds of thousands of years of evolution
>dogs

Science did stop. It stopped at political correctness basically.

They're all Canis Lupus Familiaris. They're all the same species and they can all reproduce with one another. Period. Stop posting.

If you try to keep posting with you "b-b-b-b they all subspecies" grasping for straws shit then you need to stop and kill yourself.

Politics is science but science is not politics.

The point is that they all have different traits you fucking autist
Hence why some dogs are known to be stupid, some are known to be aggressive, etc.
you literally don't even understand the point you're arguing against

This is why

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