how many times should an individual go through every level of socialising in order to max their charisma and be socially succesful despite looking like ass and being mentally crippled
>coffee
>first date (or meetup if it's a guy and you're just in to smoke weed or get drunk with someone)
>second date
>friendly group hangout
>every other higher tier
how many times should someone as an , more or less, idealist go through before even considering going to a different level
I've come to realise that trying to milk a dead cow os never going to suffice in anything, no point in trying to take someone on a date/meetup/partytiem if the coffee felt stale and awkward
I want the best impression on the go, I will not satisfy with mediocre
so 15~30 is my rough estimate, but since I tend to go out less than once a month I'm skeptical as how efficient this tactic may be
throw something at me, I'm veeeeery confused when it comes to social interactions and every piece of advice helps
How many times should an individual go through every level of socialising in order to max their charisma and be...
sexual chemistry/attraction call it whatever you will MUST be established right after you "open" greetings etc..
after that you must establish what this conversation is about "man to woman, you are attracted to her" you cant be too obvious here, nor so subtle that you fail to convey the message.
If you dont understand this much then most of your dates will fail because you have no premise. You can waste 10 dates on a girl and it will lead to nowhere.
reading a bit i realize that you are very beta. scared of establishing the premise that you are attracted to her, and want sex. Your awkwardness is signaled to the girl and she loses interest in you. After that you are just wasting time on dates and expecting something magical to happen. unfortunately it does not work like that, its your job as a man to establish attraction.
I'm not interested in genuine dating is the thing
women disgust me, all women
I am attracted to bodies of 15 yos (legal where I live) and minds of brilliant and intelligent 25 yos, and those don't exist
I am not interested in any relation which is overly saturated in contact with anyone or anything else
I may have looks below average but just as much as queers, footfags and every other sexual deviant can't choose what makes them tick neother can I
but I am a prideful man, I cannot just sit idly and do nothing whilst others are wasting their time with others despite also resulting in nothing
I've been to dates after coffees despite showing no real interest in other party, but they just didn't feel right, it felt like eating leftovers without even tasting the dish when it was served the first time
I don't want to go out until there are no imperfections on the coffee, no breaking of the eye contact, no 4 second awkward silences, no loss of dominance when speaking, no toxic insecurities, no cringeworthy moments, no spaghetti out of my pockets
>...
if you can't tell I've been looking into marketing, and the thing you need the most in marketing is charisma, you don't get charisma by staying at home or spending large sums of money on failed dates when you can't even talk to someone on a lunchbreak
but surely, it's not all just practice, there must be certain cheats you can apply, trade secrets of the proffesion
my libido dropped past 17, I fap maybe once in a blue moon if I have some stims lying around and nothing to do for 4 or 5 hours
trust me, people are interested in taking the second bullet to the head and go through an another set of mind games conversation with me provides, but I never feel connection nor as if they are dying to see me again, this trait is probably the most wanted in marketing, since at that point you can become a snake oil salesman and people will still buy everything you put in front of them
I still only have 3 friends, when a normal everyday joe can balance all the way up to 70
I must admit I reek of envy or jealousy, being fine either way if everyone became less social or I became more social; but instead of bathing in it every day I decided to take action and I'm not keen on giving up 'less a terminal illness forces me to tske the choice of enjoying last bits of my life or following this practicly sisyphean task I gave myself
I also set homeless encampments on fire in my free time
You only need to be the left guy if you suck with women so much that them coming to you is the only option.
i got better when i stopped giving a shit. social ineptitude is a sign of intelligence. we live in a world of idiots. learn to adapt or get a lobotomy.
only couches once a year
>tfw no couch this year
feels bad man
holy shit you are autistic as fuck
You have a very warped perception of what the average person’s social life is like. Nobody has 70 friends. They might have 70 acquaintances. But a real close friendship takes actual time and effort to maintain and most people don’t have any more than 5. I have 4. A lot of people only have 1 or 2.
I talk in a broader spectrum
by 70 friends I mean people they contact atleast once every 2 months and get to meet atleast once a year
sure you can classify every type of friend in a certain category, with best friends being people you meet on a regular bassis, just friends being folk you see from time to time and are in good relations with but ultimatively you don't talk to them for a week or two, and lowest being acquiantances; people who know you and you know them and take atleast 5 minutes to talk to one another if you meet in the street, and maybe invite you to their wedding
I guess the wording I should've used was friendly people instead of friends, which gets me to about 5 but that's not really much better now is it
you can clasify it in whatever fashion you deem fit, but it still stands that an average joe can surround himself with 150 (+/- 2~4 people) and maintain a social balance [though most cut back at 50 to 80 in modern day and age] whereas I can barely balance more than 20
I should atleast be capable of balancong the same amount if more is not a possibility
forgive punctuation I am still slightly under the influence and I should be completely sober in two hours or so
no, I was just isolated (ostracised?) since youth, different mentality than the majority, being the only individual that stands out everywhere I go, not even close to the freaks that roam the streets but talking with me is a mental strain despite the lack of stupidity and madness present
I can maintain an eye contact and mimic some facial expressions, I am no longer under suspicion that I was ever autistic
my psychologist thought I was gifted, but we later learned I wasn't after taking those tests
the fact that you're analyzing such simple social shit points to autism
so? it's not like average analytical folk don't do the same and still maintain an average social life just like the aformentioned average joe
had I not stood out as much I'd still act more or less in the same manor, except I'd be much more proficient than I am now
jesus christ good luck dude
thanks
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kek, saved