I need help Sup Forums

I need help Sup Forums.

>Be me
>25 and living at home
>Both parents around because white
>Over the years since my dad got a well paying job mom decided that she doesn't have to work.
>Now constantly sits around the house being miserable
>Dad constantly makes her breakfast on his days off, serves her like a queen with coffee
>Goes out and gets food for the house on his day off
>Does her laundry for her, while doing his own laundry for work.
>Does the dishes after they pile up for a week on end.
>He constantly calls her beautiful, sexy, sends her cute texts.
>After all this, mom goes through a sketchy stage where my dad and I are both sure she's cheating.
>Dad finds texts and stuff of hardcore evidence of her cheating, actually catches her in the act at a friend's house one night but doesn't realize what he saw till after because he was just out of a dead sleep.
>Loves her a lot so continues to try to make things work
>Mom now continuously takes advantage of how he feels about her, guilt tripping him and straight up lying about being sore with her undiagnosed mom illness.
>Constantly blaming my hard working father for literally everything wrong around the house
>I defend him because I see from a third parties view who does what
>She tells me I'm constantly rubbing it in her face by telling the truth about how he does things around the house.
>Can't handle being told she's wrong or else flies into an absolute rage to the point where she's scratched my dad across the face
>Despite all this, still sits on her ass smoking weed and popping prescription pills all day
>Threatened to drive off a bridge to make us all "happy"


What the fuck do I do b? My mom is clearly losing her fucking mind and you can't tell her ANYTHING to make her realize that without her flying off the god damn handle saying that you're actually the problem here.

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Talk with you father. Tell him to tell her she needs to get a job and be productive or he's going to divorce her.

>What the fuck do I do b?
start not acknowledging her existence.
Get your own apartment and treat her like the person she is. Let her hear what the rest of the family should have said. She sounds like someone who never heard "No" when growing up. I heard some stories like that, can not be salvaged.

Raid her hamper, post panties

there's /b, kek

Don't worry user, you will get married one day and will get to enjoy all this shit first hand

While your dad is doing all of this what the fuck are you doing to contribute?

Convince your father to leave her. It’s the only way

It's called a midlife crisis. If she hadn't cheated I would recommend talking with your father about what to do. However since she cheated I'd say you both should leave. There should never be ANY tolerance for behavior like that.

I'm doing the same shit while he's at work because my mom won't. Taking the trash out, I'm going out and doing groceries, cleaning the yard of dog shit (I literally picked up 20 bags). Not to mention I'm doing dishes because she can't even wash a pan for me to cook us dinner in while I go to the store to get the damn shit. Hell, I ever go out and buy her the weed so she can get high!

My mom went nuts when she got older. Just got super egocentric. Drove my sister from her, lost all her friends, started drinking. She tried being mean to me too, but years of bullying essentially made me immune to her BS. Her insinuations about what a bad son I was just went right past me. All she could talk about was how mean everyone was to her, but in reality she wasn't well and was driving people away with a behaviour she couldn't spot herself. She wouldn't listen to advice either, started lying a lot. I want to give you some good advice OP, but I can't. In my case, the whole thing just became a train wreck and I have no idea why it happened, or how to stop it. There was no diagnosis in her case, but I suspected stroke or some other problem with her brain. Wasn't dementia either, and she was lucid but just... Mean. Started around when she got to 40, and then it just got worse and worse with every year.

There's no happy ending to my own story. Just wanted to say I know what it's like when a parent starts going bonkers. I don't know if there's any similarities between our stories. She was never like that when she was younger.

Sodomize her

I'm literally afraid she's gonna ruin everything we have (a house, dog, our family in general) just because she literally can't handle being wrong and is now in a depressed slump with no motivation and constantly stuck on feeling like everyone is against her. If she literally just tried to make the effort, that would be more than enough for him.


Instead, she does NOTHING. And then constantly jumps down his throat for saying something she thought was ignorant, or rude, or whatever she seems the problem at that point in time. Everything he's done before that point is just null and void.

Not to mention my father is a foreman and works at a factory where it's very easy for people to get killed.

Never change Sup Forums

I should probably mention my neighbor offered her a job for 22$ an hour (that's awesome here in Canada) and shes literally hid it from my dad and not told him about the offer at all, then she says to me she tried to get an interview but didn't get a reply... Which I find hard to believe. Maybe she shouldn't have waiting for 4 days after being offered the first time.

This is called enabling.
Stop letting her live like this.

Sit em both down and call your mom a piece of shit and your dad a cuck and to sort their shit. Tell that lazy bitch to go get a job as she does nothing around the house anyway.

I would but every time you try to tell her to do something she literally looks like she's about to about to break down and cry.

I was trying to hype her up to go get this job she was offered that she completely hid from my dad and she almost looked like she was about to cry and started making excuses about being sore or not being able to get out of bed because it takes "everything she has".

You can't tell her ANYTHING without prompting a melt down. I was saying "you can do it! You can go get that job! Go for it! " And she still looked like she was about to ball her eyes out.

She has realized that any meaningful event of her life has been accomplished and she has nothing to live for anymore.
This user is right:
Get the fuck out of there; she's going to get worse before (if ever) she gets better. Shes been allowed to act like this too long, shes probably already beyond saving.

The rest of her life will be her being super depressed, playing the victim, and ruining the lives of those around in an attempt to makes others feel as shitty as she does.
Get. Out.

when I went into my deep nihilism and ignorance (depression), I couldn't see how selfish I was
It is amazing how ignorant one can be to themselves, the person they spend most time with, the person they know intimately, the person they've been since birth, etc.

Even to this day, empathy is a struggle for me
I mean outwardly I can "empathize" but I couldn't give less than two shits about a motherfucker, especially when motherfuckers are violent, niggers (regardless of race), and quick to misinterpret just cause they want to fight.

I was enabled my whole life and never really taught much, including how to empathize (another example at how spics can deteriorate this country)

Now I have self-exiled myself cause I only cause problems mate
and the joke of it all is that in the end, I'm the loser, the bad man, the failure, the destructive entity, others are empty handed and scot free.

Thanks a lot man. And this sounds basically identicle to my mom. After she got fired for the first time in her life about 6-7 years ago, she's been an absolute wreck like this. And it's just getting worse.
She doesn't think she has to work to help provide for our family, but then she makes excuses about having migraines or some bullshit that only happens on days where she has something to do, conveniently.

>she looks like she's gonna cry
>so we let her do anything she wants while waiting on her hand and foot
You and your dad deserve this for being spineless cowards that treat a grown woman as if she's a weak child.

Those almost quints thou o.o

It sounds like she doesnt want to get better; which means there is nothing you can do. If she has decided to live as a garbage human being, that is her choice, you wont be able to change her mind. Focus on yourself, stop caring about her.

Treat her like you would a toddler of a co-worker you dont like. Be 'friendly' and minimally helpful if it doesnt put you out of your way, but otherwise fuck doing anything for her. You have your own life to worry about, you dont need to deal with her shit.

We got into a huuuge argument today because I'm tired of hearing her blame my dad for everything. The guy works 12 hour shifts as a foreman, alternating days and nights and constantly gets shit on for being the low man on the totem pole at his job. Then he has to come home and deal with her being an absolute psycho, blaming him for everything.

All I did today was say that dad doesn't have time to shop for Christmas gifts because he's working and then has to do everything else.

She took that as me "rubbing it in her face". Her words, not mine. She's been also threatening suicide to me, today she said she's gonna "drive off a bridge to make everyone happy" because even her own mother is started to get frustrated as hell with her.

My dad is no coward, he just doesn't have any idea how to treat a woman who he's spent 28 years with and is suddenly now constantly taking advantage of him because of her own insecurities. The more we don't put up with her shit, the more she threatens shit like suicide or other retarded things.

Tell your father that his behavior enables her behavior even more and that shows to her that’s it’s ok what she’s doing.

Basically he needs to get out and find his masculine self again because he is just too much of a wuss by now.
Get him a book of Corey Wayne. His is an excellent dating coach and he helped me a lot. There are plenty videos as well

there was nothing mfs could do to stop me from spiraling into my own head
there is nothing people can do to "save" me in a sense
I'm the only one to blame and that realization doesn't repair the damage that I have caused
If I could stop being this rancid I would be but I don't know how to

It's hard to help her get "better", when she's constantly jumping down anyone's throat at the slightest sign of blood in the water.

The other day she got pissed at this lady at the liquor store because my mom asked for sweet wine and the lady started pointing out sweet wines????? I actually had to whisper to her that she needs to chill out... It was so fucking embarassing

Is identical to what happened to me. When I was 15 or so, she lost her job. She was a single mom (dad fucked off when I was 7), and it impacted on us quite harshly. But she never actually got a real job again after that. Was on and off on unemployment benefits and other help. Worked a bit, but only part time and not regularly. Migraine excuse was used for hang overs. I don't have advice for you. I had no one to turn to, so I had to protect my kid sister from getting the brunt of that shit. But if you have your dad to turn to, then maybe you can sit down with him and explain that this is not how she used to be. Something has happened with her and she will absolutely take the whole family down with her if you let her. Don't know what to tell you otherwise. She's the only woman I have ever struck, and I had to to protect my kid sister when I still lived with the both of them. It got that bad.

>My dad is no coward
>he just does cowardly things

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Read what you wrote mate. It’s not her insecurities only but his own.

Read again and see how he isn’t a wuss and afraid of losing her. And losing what ? A cheater.

It’s hard very hard because you’re in the middle as well but you want to see them happy anyway be it together or with someone who’s truly APRECIATING him for what he is.

Exactly. You can’t help anyone who doesn’t want help

You're right about that. He loves her soooo much that he is a sucker for her in that regard. Even on certain days I've heard him tell her "just take it easy today" when he should be telling her to go out and do things.

He's always been into lifting weights and now he just recently starting going to the gym and she's actually accused him of going there to see people or some bullshit like that. Not being mean but my mom could definitely benefit from some excersize, everyone on her side of the family above 60 is basically obese..

It's simple user. You're 25. Move the fuck out. They will sort it out themselves. It's not your concern anymore.

this.
you're 25
you can't change people after a certain age cause mfs are closer to dying than they are to being born so naturally they stop giving fucks

Listen he has to put limits. He goes to the gym for his own self development. He neglected his self a lot and he should do that.
Don’t let him become a pathetic jerk where his cheating wife has still the pants on this “relationship”

Has she tried going to a psychiatrist for anti-depression medication? Kinda sounds like she needs it.
"Mom, I'm worried about you. You havent been acting like yourself for awhile now. I *do not* want to see you kill yourself. Please, for me, for dad, for your own sanity, please, go see a psychiatrist.
It *is not* normal to threaten to commit suicide, surely you can understand that? Something is going wrong in your brain right now, and that is ok; this happens to lots of people, you arent alone. But you need help. Please, get help. If I look into nearby therapists, and schedule an appointment, will you let me drive you there?"

I think "coward" is a bit harsh. Dude just loves her so much and doesn't understand why she's doing this shit. He keeps telling himself he has no idea why he hasn't kicked her out already. And he actually has to do the stuff around the house because he can't stand living in filth or having no lunch to take for work, etc etc. I do agree tho that he needs to start putting his foot down for sure.

And it's true man, I see him do all this stuff and it breaks my heart to see her constantly blame him for everything. Even things that aren't really his fault.


One time I offered to help her fix up the fence in the yard and she went on some rant about how my dad should be doing it but doesn't.

Kek, your mom said she'd drive off a bridge?

I want to soo bad man but I'm recently unemployed and even with all my experience getting a job is fucking difficult. I'm trying to find something full time so I can get the fuck out of Dodge and not deal with this shit anymore... I really wanna join the army but motivation is a problem of mine. I really don't want to end up like my mother...

Either this, which makes absolute sense, no matter what you think.

OR, here's another suggestion:
>buy some date rape drug
>wait for a time when everyone else will be out for a long time apart from you and your mother
>put it in her drink
>wait for it to take effect
>turn the heating up to maximum in the house so she wears very little clothing
>grind up some viagra and put it in her food
>then put a film on for you both to watch, something with some steamy scenes in it
>sit closer than usual to her, rest your hand on her thigh
>move it seemingly unconsciously during the film
>wait for her to warm up
>slip it further up, and into her underwear
>finger her until she's soppy wet
>take the pistol out and put it in your mouth
>aim directly upwards so it misses most of your brain but takes your face off
>fire
>you'll probably go unconscious from blood loss
>your father will return home to find a faceless man covered in blood with his hand in his wife's crotch
>A man is nobody.
Problem solved.

This isn’t love man. It’s basically dependency and fear of losing what he thinks is good enough. Maybe it was good 28 years ago but clearly she doesn’t VALUE honesty and loyalty so based on these facts that’s not love.

If you can’t love yourself and endure all that then basically you have low self esteem and no love to oneself. So now he’s basically blaming himself for what she did and thinks he can make it work. His ego is hurt but not love. Love is not a beggar

He has to focus on himself ASAP

People in my family have been telling her to go see a doctor and she's got mad at them for that. She goes "EVERYONE TELLING ME TO GO SEE A FUCKING DOCTOR" like yeah... Because we all want you to stop being crazy.


She's going down the same road as her cousin who I remember tried to jump from our 6th floor balcony when I was a kid. Her cousin is like anorexic and on a bunch of pills and is legit crazy, she will be the same way soon if she doesn't get some help.


The thing is she won't listen to anyone...

wtf user XD

He's already been through one marriage already and the same shit happened. Soon as they realize he cleans or does chore, they stop and sit on their ass constantly. The fact is if he divorces her it's a win win for her because she gets a ton of money for doing fuck all...

>spent 28 year with

I can see how it could be pretty fucking hard for him to drop her.

take a short training course, one a few days long.
keep doing training courses, then applying for jobs, part or full time, then saving and using the money for more training/qualifications.
Don't wait for motivation, it is a dream-killer. Just do it without thinking too much or hesitating, don't wait for the perfect moment or a feeling that might never come.
Motivation and momentum are built by doing constructive things. Force yourself to do it, whether you like it or not, and you will find it easier and easier as you do it.
Read online how to make a good CV/resume, and practise writing them. Make 5 versions until you have a good one.

I'd start by saying you gotta leave the house, it's definitely about time you live by yourself.

after a few months start visiting your parents and see how they are.

you should consider that your dad is accepting the situation because of you live there. maybe if you leave, it will give him the courage to leave.

enabling is a real problem and it seems your dad is enabling you both, fuckers.

Lmao seriously tho xD fucking Sup Forums

i'm not saying my sorry ass story that no one gives a fuck about is to be yours but I've realized I am not me but a mixture of my family (no personality, only influences)
I realized I was my dad and mom
my mom in her craziness and my dad in his indifference both in their laziness
but I'm only making excuses

if you go the army then stick through with it or do whatever the fuck you gotta do
I tried to kill myself and the attempt was enough for them to chapter me out on a chapter 5-11 which bars me from re-enlisting into any branch
I don't care
I didn't want to be there so I found a way to not be there because they wouldn't let me to refuse to train

Your mother sounds like an insufferable cunt.
This might end in divorce, you should bail out and live with your dad. You both sound responsible.

Your parents are both to blame. If you give a dog a treat they will love you and adore you looking forward to the next treat longingly. You dump the whole supply of treats the dog will love you just as much but it will get unhealthy and less interested in treats.

Your dad dumping out his purse with your mom in affection makes it lose meaning. If he tells her he loves her everyday it waters it down. He says he loves her at precise intimate moments a couple times of year it's magical.

Also removing the challenge from working has made your mother resentful. One loses purpose and aim ultimately resulting in a feeling that you're meaningless. She probably tried to find meaning in other peoples lives but she can't force other people to live the way she wants them to. Why should she she doesn't even know how to be happy herself?

Tbh I'd talk to your mom and ask her if she's really happy. Talk about all the ways you think she's changed. Try to broach it like you're exploring and curious about how she really feels and not attacking her. If she admits to being sad and not knowing what to do recommend a therapist.

You can’t expect different results by doing the same thing over and over again. That’s insanity.

So you basically say it’s ok to be married and be in this mess only because he was married before. So we are coming back to fear and insecurities. Not love.

With that attitude, you're not Army material. Or any service at all.

Why not go to a trade school and learn a trade? Between electricians and HVAC, they can make anywhere from 60k-100k per year. You have options.

If this conversation does not work:
Then you need to have this conversation:

"Mom, I want you to get help. Everyone wants you to get help. You are refusing. I will *gladly* try to help you if you are trying to get better, but by refusing to go to a doctor you are telling me you dont want to get better. You have a broken leg but just keep walking on it anyway, making it worse, and yell at anyone who suggests a hospital might be able to help you. I CAN NOT sit here and watch you be in pain like this. If you refuse to get help, then I am removing myself from this situation because I need to worry about MY mental health. I want to be healthy, if you dont, that is your choice, and I will respect it, but I do not have it in me to just sit back and watch you destroy yourself like this anymore, so I need to remove myself from this situation. If you want to drown in your sorrows and are ignoring all the hands put out to try and save you, fine, but I will not drown with you anymore."


tldr; you need to worry more about yourself and less about her. Her mental struggle does NOT take priority over your mental stability.

good relationship advice.
no matter how much you love a girl, don't throw everything you have at her in one go.

do it, works every time.

Don't you have homework?

Thanks for all your advice Sup Forums. She called my dad while he's at work and is balling her eyes out in her car in a parking lot talking about how she doesn't want to be alive anymore. All because of this minor disagreement we had today over whether or not my dad does things around the house etc etc.

If you have this conversation, she'll likely say something like, "Then I'll just go kill myself"
In which case you need to respond with:

"I'm trying to stop that from happening. You are refusing to let me help you. If you want to die, that is your choice, I cant stop you. All I can do is make it clear I DO NOT want you to die. If you want my help, then we need to go to a doctor. Otherwise I am going to focus on myself. I have no power to control your actions, only you do."

It was already too late at the point she decided not to have to work anymore. That's when people spiral down. She has no more sense of self-worth left. Only professional help can get her out, because she sees you two as the cause of her problem. You're too perfect for her to handle.

your dad is a literal cuck. You need to gtfo before shit gets worse

This.

Don’t brag about being white when your mom is the town bike

She’s a keeper

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Too long to read OP, so auto-reply: Dont be so gay.

Dude one time if I didn't have a door between us she would have hands down tried to put hands on me. She gets out of control to the point where it gets physical.

Tell your mom shes a fat ugly cunt and if she fucks your dad over you’re gonna get her swatted. Also tell her if she doesn’t let your dad fuck hot young hoes you’re gonna get a mule to kick her when shes sleeping

Noted

Your mom has fallen into a weird female illness.

If you make a modern woman a house wife, she does fucking nothing. Getting them to wash clothes or cook a meal is a fucking challenge.

They sit and sit and drink and drug and stare at the sky dead eye'd.

I'd recommend praying intensely. See if you can get them all to attend your local Orthodox church (Or Catholic if there is no Orthodox church).

Your mom can go back to being normal, but she needs to be reminded of what her role is in this world. She needs to treat your Father like he treats her. She should be washing his clothes, greeting him with a warm meal, sucking his dick.

He'll absolutely love it and love her even more then he already does. She to will feel amazing and have a purpose again.

I'd recommend, get your Dad to stay over night somewhere. Say it's for work. He's got lots of cash now, so he can stay at a hotel now and again. Maybe he can go do some shit HE wants to do, like travel.

Always say its for work but it'll make her suspicious and jealous. Turn the tables so to speak.

The less available your Dad becomes, the more she will try to cling to him. But that does not ultimately fix her shitty behavior. Get her off the drugs (if they're SSRIs and into therapy).

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It's really ridiculous man.

You stated the truth about how I do nothing at all?? REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE IM GONNA KILL MYSELF.


It's fucking annoying man.. truth hurts.

Oldfag here, with 2 kids and a wife so I probably relate more to your father than to you.

One question springs to mind after reading all your story: if your mom's cheating and your dad knows, why does he let her get aweay with it ?
Feels like there's more to it than just a "well he really loves her" kind of situation, isn't he trying to atone for something he's done to her ?

Assuming there isn't, one more question and a word of advice to stop the bad habits your mom's gotten into: Where does your mom get the money to buy weed ? If she doesn't do anything around the house, and just sits there getting stoned, then she shouldn't have any money and neither your dad nor you should give her any. If she wants to act up like a crazy teenager then treat her like one. Not to mention the fact that weed might interact pretty badly with the pills she's popping all the time.
And where did she get those pills if all she has is an "undiagnosed mum disease" as you mention in another post ?

Seems to me that this whole situation is a load of BS, but you only see the tip of the iceberg and both your mom and your dad have skeletons hidden in their closet.

My best advice to you : Move out and live your life, let them work it out.
My best advice to your dad : Have a sit down with the wife, have her explain what she reproaches you with, discuss it and say what's on your mind as well. But if all she serves you is bullshit then confront her about it and be ready to leave her if she doesn't fix her shit.

My best advice to your mom : Stop the weed, get a job, and if you have issues get them sorted out. If there are unspoken problems then spell them out loud and fix them, if you need help get some, amd if you're just unhappy with your husband then just tell him and divorce him without wrecking the whole family because you're too scared to act on what you need to do.

God speed user.

Bro this shit hits way too close to home. My ex-wife was JUST like your Mom. It made me so miserable I just had to leave.

Now I'm in the SAME FUCKING PROBLEM again, but we're not married and I've already been moving my shit out.

This stuff seems endemic to American white women. They just fucking rot away. WHY?!

She walks around with a basket of 6 bottles of different pills, not to mention the ones on her nightstand and on the table beside me which puts the total more around 7 or 8 different bottles of pills.


She is overweight too, exercise would change her life but she can barely get off the couch to even make herself.something to eat.

I wish I could do something like this but it would probably prompt another fucking melt down.

>Both parents around because white

Yet your mother acts like a filthy nigger.

Post pics

Did this all start when she got on the meds bro? What does she take? Also Weed is a massive anti-motivation drug. It makes you happy with bullshit. Nothing bothers you, just super chill doot doot doot lets watch Youtube.

Stage a break in one day and beat the shit out of the old bitch. Then take her ass. No one will know

Lack of a boss in the house, to straighten her up when she needs to.
Bitchslap+"shut the fuck up and lift your ass from that chair!" does it pretty well where I am.

He's only found text messages and stuff like that, he thought he saw something when they spent the night at their friends house but he didn't see 100% of what was going on, just some suspicious movement and behavior.

My mom does all the financial stuff because her job for 90% of her life was keeping books for company's and doing payroll, my dad doesn't really have the time or the patience to be working constantly then coming home and paying all the bills etc etc. It's just how their roles have worked out. She spends his money without any regard if she earned it or not.

She gets the pills for things like blood pressure, migraines, and other sorts of female problems. The thing is they don't test how these drugs interact with eachother when someone pops 3 different pills at the same time.

The weed definitely doesn't seem to be helping. She's an entirely different person before and after she smokes weed tbh... It's like her way of being happy and
be content with procrastinating about doing things.

No idea man. Probably because they have it way too good in Western society.

Same guy you replied too here:

I always wanted to avoid hitting her because I was a cop. Never did actually but got so fucking close. We could yell and fight for hours, it was horrible.

One time we fought and I put a pillow over her face and held it down for like 10 seconds before I regained sanity from my red out. I joked it off and then realized I need to leave before I commit a grievous murder.

You're so right man, I'm struggling with that myself. The weed makes me so fucking lazy but I am hardcore addicted to it mentally. This type of behavior from my mom tho really makes me want to say fuck it and be more independent so I can move out.

Read the feminist mystique and use that as means to help your mom. Actually the book details exactly what your mom is going through. She needs a life outside of the home, but she doesn't realize it.

Tell your Dad that "Paying all the bills" today means logging onto the Electric company, net, water company page and clicking -pay-. You can even auto pay it.

Don't let him use that weak shit as an excuse. Hell, you pay the bills it's fucking easy.

We got into a fight today because she felt like I was "rubbing it in her face" by saying that my dad doesn't have time to do Christmas shopping because he has to work and then do other things like groceries and dishes and stuff.

She verbally attacked me and started crying for this, I was quiet for like two minutes and she started crying then accusing me of rubbing it in her face, despite me telling her that wasn't my intention and the fact that I didn't mention her once during the conversation.


Now she called my dad at work, crying in a random parking lot about how she doesn't want to be alive and how she doesn't want a Christmas. (Like a fucking child).

My dad put up the tree and I put up all the lights on the porch outside, all she's done is basically go out and buy groceries for the first time in literally probably 6 months. It's the 23rd and she has no shopping done or anything because she waited till the very last minute like she ALWAYS does for everything. That's why I got so upset hearing her talk about how it's my dad's fault somehow.

Not to mention the reason why me and my dad put up 90% of the tree without her is because she had a little argument over the phone with my grandma and then stormed off to go lay in her bed without saying anything to anyone like a fucking teenage girl.

You've got a good point. It wasn't much of an excuse as more of a reason why she does the financial shit and he lets her do it.

same guy you replied to as well

I'm not saying you should hit her on a regular basis nor that you should be happy to do it, but it should always be an open option when shit gets out of hand.
For the simple reason that women use violence too, just not the same kind, they use verbal vilence and wait until you're the most tired an vulnerable to try to wear you down with bullshit.
That's violence too, people who say words can't hurt you are morons, so you just end one kind of violence with another, more potent kind.
You should never enjoy it and always be prepared to apologize for it if it turns out that you were wrong, but it levels the playing field a lot.

I've got tons of stories when my wife almost thanked me for shutting her up and stopping her bullshit. It would be too long to tell the whole story, but she could've gotten our daughter very sick because of some vaccinations that shouldn't be done together and after arguing for an hour and a half I just slapped the shit out of her and told her to go get advice from a doctor before getting the shots, and 4 days later after her appointment at the hospital she was giving me a blowjob for stopping her...

It's one of those "I never want it to happen, but if it does I'll do what I have to" kind of equilibrium in the relationship...

Wow. nobody cares you narcissist. Literally out of nowhere you wrote a novel about your inner psyche that nobody asked for.

Convince your father to divorce her, she sounds like a piece of shit

For the simple reason that women use violence too, just not the same kind, they use verbal vilence and wait until you're the most tired an vulnerable to try to wear you down with bullshit."


Fuccckkkkk. Never thought of that but it's super true.

Get a job and move the fuck out you autistic leech. Stop being what you claim to hate and pull your own weight. Maybe it'll take enough stress of your father to come to his senses.

Pull out a book of bridges and talk to her about good bridges to drive off. Ask her if she can do a stunt jump off the bridge.

Yeah hate to say it OP but this user has a point. Maybe your Dad is staying because he loves you as much as your Mom and he does not want to make it hard on you.

Maybe go rent a room somewhere and start living out of the nest. This will free up some cash for your Dad. Get him to start putting some into a bank box (they dont track the contents so divorce lawyers cant rob it).

I've been trying to find a full time job in my city for a while now so I could do this exact thing. I truly feel like if I wasn't around they would have no choice but to work things out.

I'm 25 and it would probably be for the better if me and my dad lived alone tbh.

The most fucked up part about this all to me is that she has no problem downplaying anything my dad does and basically saying he does nothing, but the minute you even suggest that she isn't doing anything she FLIES off the handle and starts attacking you. I even tried to go up to my room and she goes "oh yeah go hide on your room" basically calling me a pussy in so many words.

Because I didn't wanna stand around and argue with her anymore... And she is still blind to what she does.

You know you can maintain a relationship with your dad even tho you don't live with him? Me might even respect you more and take your opinions as a third party observer more serious as you would also be impartial to his and your mothers living situation, relationship, and finances.

What country do you living in and what is the size of the city you live in? How limited are you in your job search?