Why would anyone wanna have children...

Why would anyone wanna have children? Imagine having to having to wake up in the middle of midnight because a little shit won't stop crying, Having to change for them, Take them out and shit for their entertainment, Worse is when they grow and manage to annoy in every conceivable way, Worst of all is how I hear that people change their perspective on the world after the child is born, As in favoring security and financial gain for the benefit of the child, Imagine compromising over a tiny ass brat that's been around for only a portion of your life

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Taking responsibility for you? Can you be way more pathetic?
Fuck off

I don't get it either, I already hace animals and sometimes I just wish I could send them in vacation to have the fucking peace

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Other parents tell you children are a miracle and blessing because they want you to be as miserable as them. They can't go out without a babysitter, it drains their finances, parents age rapidly and they split couples apart.

I love seeing friends I know post how happy they are with their family on Facebook only to see how fucking miserable they are in real life and to hear all of the yelling/screaming that goes on in their home.

>Take responsibility for you
The fucking money you spent taking care of them and educating them you could've spent on maintaining your health and saving up the rest for retirement

Trained blowjob giver.

kids are for boomers

Smashing pregnant pussy and milking the wife makes it all worth it imo. Plus, she does 90% of the work and I just have to drink and put up with it for a few hours.

What a stupid cunt your mother must have been right?

t. someone who's never had kids

Once the wife has kids, they let themselves go. They gain weight and just bitch non-stop even though the man has to work all week so that she can be a stay at home fat slob.

My son is downstairs being fed breakfast by the wife right now user, but I appreciate the skepticism. Having kids is ridiculously hard work and a time sink like no other, but the aforementioned benefits are our fetishes so it works for us.

Happy New Year m8

Funniest part has to be all of the people my age (20-21) having children and getting married right out of school thinking their lives are going to be amazing. Little do they know they’ve just signed themselves up for a lifetime of never being able to save a notable amount of money, going bald and grey in their early 40s and losing their divorce settlements and along with it a lifetime of hard earned money and assets. Meanwhile I’ll be sitting back watching everyone else’s lives crumble while sipping a beer and living the good life.

i have a kid and it's quite fun. i don't buy that "it changed me so much" shit tho, i am still the same person as before and i do not need to feel special because my wife and me had sex for the sole purpose of recreation.

i've seen some shit parenting in my life, and i've seen great parenting which resultet in calm and decent children.

someone watched too many 90s sitcoms

Go get raped and beaten in prison.
Maybe you shouldn't breed, retard.

>sole purpose of recreation
You retard, If you meant it was to make kids then you should've said "reproduction", Recreation means you have sex as a past time, Which is not true since you had a kid

my bad, i meant reproduction

My whole thing in regards to that is that life is kind of shitty in a low-to-mid-grade sort of way. Most of adult life is boredom and waiting and being comfortably uncomfortable. The whole work, eat, sleep, cycle is really really depressing as well and tbh everything we buy and do causes a lot of suffering. It just doesn't seem like the morally right choice to me. Plus the earth is on fire and wealth disparity is getting worse and it seems like we're getting to the point where we're going to be in this weird surveillance state thing where we're going to work more, have less privacy, and be just as if not more broke than before. Seems like a mean thing to do to someone who didn't even ask to exist, I guess

cool story, bro

The whole ironic detachment thing doesn't work past maybe your early twenties. Vulnerability and sincerity is healthy, actually

autistic weirdos such as yourself shouldn't breed

With your epic level retardation we are all glad you've chosen not to have kids... but saying that's your choice is hilarious because we all know you're untouchable

You're weird

Can confirm, people don’t praise you for being edgy and not caring, they just laugh at you.

Pfft, You'll wish I'm the one who's genes are populating the Earth, Instead you have delusional retards with superstition and Irresponsible jerkasses

>Caring what other people think
Kill yourself

Imagine being this much of a faggot. Imagine being an incel in your mother’s basement

>but saying that's your choice is hilarious
I never said that's my choice you stupid nigger, I was chastising those do have a choice and said yes

Whoa watch out there buddy don’t wanna cut yourself on all that edge

having children is fucking stupid

Many children might have a higher purpose.

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a child is the only way i know my dna, my influence, my wisdom and teachings, are passed on to the future

everything is a war - of ideas, memes, genes. every life and death is a change of the variables. it's important to keep fighting

You're gonna be dead anyway so it doesn't matter

I have a girl, 1.5 yo, and I often regret it. I have never been as constantly tired, sad, broke and miserable as I have this last year and a half.

Theres constantly something wrong with the little shit, requiring visits to the doctors, sleepless nights and so fucking on.

I don't get it either, but for other reasons.
Trapping another living being in the same prison you are in is just cruel.
These fucks do it for their own entertainment too.
Idiots "want a child" like it's some sort of pet, or cool material object to obtain.

I can only imagine that women become more of a cunt after children, not only for tje points you make, but they spend their days consistently talking to someone with a childs mind and low intelligent who does whatever they want. This would influence the woman to be a shit tier person

Based user

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>muh nihilism

why is any of that important

You're going to be a lonely alcoholic at 56 and die of liver failure

What’s the point of retirement if you’re a lonely bitter fuck? I’d rather be poor and surrounded by family than rich and alone. But I guess that’s your decision to make for yourself.

The dream.

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Not having kids makes you automatically lonely and bitter? This sounds like a high level of cope

Nah that’s just wrong as fuck. Parenthood makes most people into more responsible compassionate versions of themselves.

Ikr, I want to be dead from drug overdose or cancer well before I hit 50

So having kids automatically means you can’t save and you’ll be poor? That sounds like a high level of cope.

Because the root of almost everything wrong with people from addiction to mental illness, to fetishes, stems from a lack of meaningful human connection.

Jesus I've been reading the scp wiki too much.
I see 096 about to eat a child in that pic.

I never said to give her the dick to suck while shes young pedoman.

Women though!
From my (limited) experience, seeing girls before and after having kids they often become cunts to the father, as if they became a completely different person, but I do see that it humbles them and they no longer behave like they are the centre of the universe

I have two kids and they're actually pretty awesome. I'd have a third if my wife was able.

I felt the same, I can trace some of my family lines back 1000 years and I don't want to be the last.

Sadly though my uniquely American last name will die with me, as I have no uncles, brothers, or sons. If I meet anyone with the same spelling I can tell you who the common ancestor was who changed it in the 1820's. Looking at the family tree there are so many more daughters than sons, and I knew from an early age the name depended on me passing it on.

I have 2 daughters and my wife won't have another baby, even though I bring it up weekly. I'm raising my daughters to be strong women so maybe one of them will marry a beta who's willing to adopt the name and then they have 3 sons, but it's all just a fantasy for now and I'm the last surviving Male with this surname.

So that you have someone who can scrape the refried bean shit off your legs when you crap your britches of course.

Sniff it boy, smells like salty bacon don't it? Go ahead, take a lil' lick and pee on my trousers then help me pull em up so I can go finger my asshole in the bushes thinking about being raped while wearing nothing but a pink scarf and a tutu.

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true

I'm not the same user who said that, maybe should have clarified. He does have a bit of a point though. Kids are extremely expensive and you seem to be suggesting the value is "not making you lonely and bitter" to which I ask "do you really need kids for that?"
What other value do kids have for you? Or are they simply not that expensive in time and money for you? This is even assuming you have kids I guess

I agree with you. I'm child-free, and have been married for 7 years. Fuck kids! (Figuratively, not literally.)

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Because your children are your immortality. That is why you chose your mate well and raise the children properly.

14/88

See, even if I don't want children myself, I know why others do.

They are willing to love and care for someone else, with no guaranteed return. Not even a guaranteed return of love. You westerners have it worse, because children are kicked out of the house at 18 or sth and not expected to take care of their parents, but Asians kids are (expected to give monthly allowances to parents, at the very least, once they start working).

However you and I probably hate kids and are quite selfish. We can't justify giving all our time, efforts and money for someone else. It's a burden. Any time we don't spend on work, we want it for ourselves and our own pleasure/goals. It's hard for me to genuinely care about another person's goals, other than for small talk reasons.

For me, it might due to the years of instant dopamine addiction: video games and porn. Idk, maybe.

Anyway, these people are kinder than us, if they're not expecting their children to take care of them.

Give her to me, I can take care of her

You can actually avoid all that and still have a great life, all the while having kids. Only time I lose sleep is when they're sick, they want daddy over mommy. I can pursue my career and my hobbies, cause I'm not some wage slave and can actually afford to hire help, actually have family and friends who care about my kids and I, help out too. With how much you bitch, I doubt you'll ever have to worry about these issues.

I think the bloodline and ancestry shit is a load of crap anyway user. What makes you you is not a material thing of this world, and while by random you were born into a human life and a specific family tree, the next life you could be born into a different planet on the other side of the universe in family of a species that is far different from humans.
I wouldn't get so hung up about carrying on a name. Though carring on a genology to ensure it doesn't die is more or less our human duty.
Fortunately I have 2 brothers both who have 4+ kids each. If I didn't have that, procreation would be important to me.

4 billion years of successful ancestors growing and evolving to become the most advanced organism on the planet. Scraping by, struggling to overcome a hostile world, facing impossible odds, all so that you could exists. And you're just going to give up because kids are "tiring." What a pathetic failure. Your ancestors must be so ashamed.

Your weak genes should end with you.

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I can trace a great uncle with the last name who was killed in the civil war in 1863 at age 19. Another cousin who died on the Arizona in Pearl Harbor so the name is on the memorial there. Those might be the only traces of the name that remain in a couple centuries.

Mine are 7, 4, & 2

It’s a shit show

Lol. I can only suggest you donate sperm. That way you have no ties to the baby and in the end you will have some comfort in knowing that maybe a son will be produced one day from it and carry on your legacy.

>bloodline and ancestry shit is a load of crap
>believes in reincarnation

wasted quads

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I care more about having people to have close relationships with than money. If you’re not stupid and actually plan your family, and wait until your financially stable then it shouldn’t really be an issue. Some people value money over people, and if they’re happy that’s good for them I guess. To each their own but I can’t possibly imagine a more shallow meaningless life.

I'd probably recognize him then. The genes are strong here; I look like my dad, my sister, nieces, and daughters all look like me (in a nice way). I always wished for a brother.

My last gf wanted kids, wanted kids so bad she got preggo by any sucker that would impregnate her (not me) and became some shit tier single mother.
She didn't want unconditional love from a child or to give love, I don't even think she could comprehend love. She just wanted a child as if it is a toy.
I know women who have had kids to entrap a man, and even just to get decent social housing.

My point is that I would assume the majority of woman have children for stupid reasons or by mistake not for wholesome thought out reasons

>having people to have close relationships with than money
but kids aren't the only way to achieve that, so why kids?
>some people value money over people
some people like both
>more shallow meaningless life
seems like you're projecting something, I don't know where you got the impression of anyone adoring money that much.

Why would you want to pass your DNA on and have absolutely no control in how your spawn turns out?

Who’s to say someday in the future they can’t bring you back to life through your bloodline? Technology is infinite, anything is possible. Just like you said next life you could be across the universe as some other life. I say in the future your children’s children children children ....x100000 who survived, will be the source to your revival in the future.

I'm far too selfish to ever be a parent. My rather hedonistic lifestyle leaves no room for the little cretins. I come and go as I please and do what I want - no one is worth my giving that up.

Because having children is a unique experience and provides a unique relationship and companionship that no other form of interaction will ever compare to. Having a wife and and friends isn’t the same as having kids. You’ll never feel closer to anyone than your child. If you truly think that having a fulfilling social life is the same as having a kid then you’re delusional.

>believes
Look around your environment retard. All phenomena changes shape and becomes fuel for other phenomena. Litterally all phenomena. What makes you think a sentient beings psyche is any different?

Thing things through retard, look at the bigger picture rather than your shitty low subjective perspective

Same reason as genghis khan. To have your DNA live on for ages. His dna is in over 16 million men to date. His DNA will exist forever until the human race dies. He is essentially immortal.

Not really. He had lots of children, but he also raised his children.

>He is essentially immortal.
Except that he's dead somewhere in an unmarked grave.

A genius indeed isn’t he?
Perhaps his way of thinking is beyond ours. No one will ever dig out his grave. His DNA will exist forever and if someday in the future a device like the assassin creed is created, they will find out where he is buried and then bring him back to life through his actual real DNA in his coffin.

Impermanence is the nature of the universe. Rhat is like saying we could turn a piece of paper back into a fully grown tree, it will never happen.
Possibly a physical clone could be made, or a second one of you can be made from sperm (a child) but what makes you will have dissolved and changed form already.
Plus keep in mind there are countless other living beings withinn your body too. It would be impossible for future tech to catalogue all the different beings that make up you, to bring you back to this shithole in a future timeline

You're again thinking I'm saying things I've not and have changed the goalposts as it were. Now it's not "for close relationships" but for "a unique relationship" where "you'll never feel closer to anyone else". This sounds like you believe having kids is the same for everyone and it almost comes across as you telling me it's not a matter of opinion but a fact that kids are good to have.
I can't really tell you you're wrong though. If you love your kids that much that's great to hear. I will say you seem rather forceful in asserting your opinion as fact though, and this makes me believe that if you're not baiting you aren't trying to convince me but rather yourself.
Although I'd like to know, have you ever considered if your child will be happy with their life? Being born? How can you know their life will be a good one for them?

"muh legacy, muh genetics"

who fucking cares, you're not important

nice word salad
nothing there supports the absurd idea that reincarnation is a real phenomena.

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Your DNA spreading literally doesn't matter. Change my mind.

Based. I live the same.
Even having a serious gf is too much hard work

That’s true, you are unique and there can only be one you. A clone of you or switching your mind into another device or brain cannot guarantee it is the same you maybe just a copy...but who knows...only when you die and wake up again will you know for sure if it is possible.

If your DNA didn't spread, you would never have existed.

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And that will happen after catgirls become real? Lay off the weedlee deedlee do, m8.

>>by the wife

why retards use this expression.... and not like=my wife

And how would that make us feel? Us not existing?

Probably not in this lifetime but who’s to say in the far future things that are impossible can become possible? Look at the universe and you can just tell how anything can really be possible. Until we can create our own universe and understand the secrets within...anything is possible.

It sucks that so many people / relatives / acquaintances try to push this shit on you.What if the kid hates me when he's older? What if the kid is born with a handicap? i don't want to be fucking babysitting someone my whole life.A kid born with handicap is one of the worst scenarios that could happen to a couple.

I would feel better if you didnt exist. One less retard in the world.

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>every single phenomena in existence behaves in a specific function
> believes his "soul" wont behave in the exact same function

Nice to see retards like you will keep the human species in low intelligence for the future. Gonna be IRL idiocy as you fucks keep repopulating the world.

Americans aree all but programmed since childhood.

>but he also raised his children.
Not really user. It would have been impossible to. He just raped any and every woman he could

>Dying is nihilism
Alright.... time to live in reality and not delusional fairy tale land

>Show me evidence that your "soul" exists

and you have the audacity to call me retarded

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