Are most wars started to distract people from their leaders failures?

Are most wars started to distract people from their leaders failures?

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>most wars started

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Can't believe Trump fell for it. It's funny how the US funnels billions to Israel every year, and it's not enough. US soldiers get to die for it's interests too.

BTW-- Trump may not have a wall but Israel does and you paid for it.

Obama didn't start a war. You cant start a war if you're always apologizing or trying to take Michael's d.

you're blaming israel for trump bombing iran? lol kek....

he sent tons of troops to syria and steps up actions in iraq

is this a coincidence?

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Ok I’m from NZ and want an honest answer from real people on this.
>why, seriously, is US so involved with Israel??
Assuming something to do with WWII and promised land, don’t give me all that Jews Rule the World crap.
Actual question.

modern wars are to fuel the military industrial complex with tax payer money and to line the pockets of the ultra rich

trump is starting a war dumbass

Modern = since 1950?

coincidence that iran is lying and everyone is calling them out on it? kek.....

Time to get your apophenia looked at...

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well the american military complex was built up during WWII
so yes basically since then

Yes since about that time. Staring with the Korean War. Viet Nam was a capitalist gang bang for war profiteers.

The usa loves to start proxy wars and sell arms to both sides, but even more we love launching 30 million dollar cruse missiles and watching stocks go crazy.

IRAQ WMD ironic kek

Part of it is WWII and trying to make amends for not acting sooner/turning Jewish refugees away. But a large part is that rich evangelicals believe that a Jewish state in the Holy Land will help bring about the apocalypse and wish for it to happen.

Thanks anons, wasn’t really going anywhere with this, just wanted to throw a body of fact on the railroad of bs that is /b.

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that reminds me. some chick in my last philosophy course about religion wrote her big essay about how evangelicals view climate change and one of their main deals is that if it's happening, and the world is turning to hell, it's a wonderful thing because it's the "rapture".

I’m not calling you out on anything here
But
What does that even mean?
Some god bothering folk think Jews living in Israel wil end the world?
That’s - And I don’t know a simpler way to put this - >“ fucking ridiculous “

End-times prophecies involve a Jewish state. I don’t know the details because I’m not a nutcase like them, but see for examples of the shit those people believe. Super rich ones believe this stuff and help people who will keep it going get elected. It sounds fucking ridiculous because it is.

search "Christian Zionism"
some christians believe that the jews being the holy land is a prerequisite for the second coming of jesus

Ok so evidently none of this is based on “sense” or “facts”.
I’m going back to “beer” and “head shaking “.
(Just my own, I’m not a black nanny)

>“ fucking ridiculous “
as is most of christianity

>Ok so evidently none of this is based on “sense” or “facts”

is this your first time learning about religion?

How do you lot even know about this shit? What country are you from?
Again not judging, but wtf how?

>Obama didn't start a war

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I’ve heard bit’s n pieces but it it all sounds like bs

American.
It's not something anyone is trying to hide
It's pretty out in the open, especially in the south

>attacking a country's citizen in a different country is a declaration of war
According to your logic Obama declared war on the United States.

I’m and and I’m from the US. Know about it because it plays a large role in our country’s foreign policy. Plus our fucking second in command believes in this nonsense.

No, he retaliated. Theres a difference. He showed iran that they got caught trying to start a pro iranian militia to attack Iraqis and it blew up (pun intended) in their face. I know about the Jews and Israel but I'd rather deal with them than Iran. Fuck those faggots...but they do have some hot ass persian women

Nope, because Obama was on my team. I didn't have a problem with it back then. My magic box told me life was all good.

Religion in a nutshell. Stories made by powerful white men thousands of years ago to control people. Just change skin color for the appropriate religions.

Jesus... How many fucking political threads do you autists need?

FUCK OFF!

1 America has a long history of philosemitism. Jews were a minority but very patriotic and civically involved form the beginning. Founding fathers wanting to break from European religion were into looking at ancient sources. Plus it’s somehow become part of modern evangelical beliefs.

2. Jews are a larger and more politically invoked group in America than in most other countries. Not in a nefarious way, just all people have stuff they care about and push politicians. Same reason America has lax gun laws (lots of people here like guns) and pro gay suit (lots of noisy faggots).

3. America is a much more conservative and moralizing country. Traditionally Americans in general are going to see poor/weak terrorists as terrorists and hate them, whereas far left Europeans, and increasingly young Americans, will see any underdog as the good guy.

>FUCK OFF
>I NEED MORE NIGGER DICK THREADS

"They posed an immediate threat" was the same reason they gave for invading Iraq.

Again not judging etc
But this makes as much sense as me believing in my son’s imaginary friend, and kicking my neighbour in the nuts for not putting out a plate for him at or new year’s dinner.
Ok I’m pretty boozed now but I think you get the spirit of where I was going with this.
I’m not even sure now tbh. Let’s just all get along.

Stop bumping them.

Coomers are annoying af, but electionsfags are a cancer worse than furries and bronies combined.

No one here is claiming they are right about their religion, I'm guessing everyone here thinks they are batshit crazy. Personally I'm agnostic and don't believe any religion.

But they still exist and in america many of them hold positions of power.

You are not wrong. If I said an invisible purple dragon lived in my backyard, with no proof, except my belief in him, and that I can feel and hear him, but no one else can I’d be locked up in a mental institution. Now if I say that the dragon is actually a bearded man in the clouds I’m a prophet.

Obviously it’s bullshit. But to dig deeper consider that religion often reflects cultural values. For example extreme American Christians today practice a religion quite different from the hippy dippy ascetic socialism of the Bible. I wonder WHY modern evangelicals have these beliefs about Israel.

Quality posts btw.

They had these beliefs long before Israel was a state.
Literally John Adams believed this.

Were all on the same page I think, unusual for b/ but not unwelcome.
How about Australia being on fire, is there a practical way to help?
I’d go over there from her in NZ, but I have a child to feed, and they rely on voluntary firefighters.
Also my passport expires in 6 weeks, but tbh I don’t think that’s much of an issue for aus/nz either way, maybe a stern word through customs.

donations to volunteer firefighters organizations

Oh interesting I didn’t know that. Source?
BTW I think there are also Muslim myths about the rapture when the Jews are in Israel or something. But I guess they hate Jews more than they love god.

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*here in NZ
* child does not rely on firefighters
Sorry /b Child is away and bad grammar makes shit hilarious.

But all children rely on volunteer firefighters for food.
Fact.

They hate Israel because they forced other Muslims out of the Holy Land, even though the Palestinians are the black sheep of the Middle East to other Muslims.

Yeah but nah.
Have been giving donations, but more will tell govt it’s ok not to pay for your problems.
I hope to understand what I mean.

Jewish Islamic tensions have exist before Israel was a state.

Mawza Exile in Yemen is an example of this.

This is true, but the Israel stuff just makes it worse.

Dumb this WAY the heck down fo someone who’s religious knowledge is “there is a man or woman in the sky with up to 8 arms that controls the world “.

And to save me another post ...
Reflect on how bafflingly irrational whatever you say sounds before you say it.

we get it man
you arent religious and you think religion is dumb

no one here is arguing for religion here, we are only discussing what people who actually believe in religion think.

you honestly just sounds like a middle schooler that just discovered atheism. and you are trying to argue with everyone so that you show how smart you are

There are three main sects of the Islamic religion, based mainly on who was the successors to their founding prophet was, and they all hate each other for the most part. Most Palestinian Muslims are of a minority group, or Christian, so the rest of the Middle East didn’t like them, until following WWII Israel was created and forcing them off their land.

Religion is stupid, there is no denying that, and it all sounds insane to non-followers.

Muslim anti semitism is complex. Whether Israel “made it worse” is somewhat chicken and egg. There was a lot of deliberate propaganda spread by Hitler and Palestinians in the broad Muslim world for their own political purposes. And many governments, especially Egypt and Syria, promoted it for their own purposes too. Muslims also REALLY cant separate politics and religion.

Regardless, my point was that if I believed god would come down to earth and reward the faithful if I let a bunch of Jews take over Delaware or some other tiny piece of America I’d be all for it. So it’s interesting that the Muslims believe in this rapture shit but still want to drive the Jews into the sea.

I’m just honestly baffled at people’s beliefs in an old book
There are many old books.
What will people believe 200 years from now ?
Tom clancy?

Good for you
no one is talking about religions being reality here