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What if I told you we are living in a simulation?
Easton Ward
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Levi Stewart
i wouldn't care because i'd know there's nothing we can do about it anyway
Caleb Lee
Yesterday news. Even in literature a common topic was "life is a dream", Plato, Maya, etc.
Hudson Ward
What if I told you you have no proof?
Liam Rogers
Prove it, faggot.
Carter Fisher
“ High-profile proponents of what’s known as the “simulation hypothesis” include SpaceX chief Elon Musk, who recently expounded on the idea during an interview for a popular podcast.
“If you assume any rate of improvement at all, games will eventually be indistinguishable from reality,” Musk said before concluding, “We’re most likely in a simulation.”
Astrophysicist Neil deGrasse Tyson agrees, giving “better than 50-50 odds” that the simulation hypothesis is correct. “I wish I could summon a strong argument against it, but I can find none,” he told NBC News MACH in an email.
The current assault on reality began with a 2003 paper by Nick Bostrom. In it, the University of Oxford philosopher laid down some blunt logic: If there are long-lived technological civilizations in the universe, and if they run computer simulations, there must be a huge number of simulated realities complete with artificial-intelligence inhabitants who may have no idea they’re living inside a game — inhabitants like us, perhaps.
These beings might imagine themselves real but would have no physical form, existing only within the simulation.
If computer-loving aliens truly exist, Bostrum argued, “we are almost certainly living in a computer simulation.” And then people like Tyson and Musk found their minds blown.
William Sullivan
I’d probably believe you
Mason Young
"Most likely" is not proof.
Cameron Foster
This is why you dont let scientists argue with philosophers, bunch of dumbasses.
Owen Anderson
>Fallacious appeals to authority
Nathan Lewis
Now scientists are searching for ways to put the simulation hypothesis to the test. Bostrom is eager to see more concrete developments of his idea. Experiments that could distinguish physical reality from a simulation “are what would be needed for it to be a bona fide scientific assertion,”
Scott Aaronson, a computer scientist at the University of Texas at Austin. “If there were bugs in the program running our universe, like in the Matrix movies, those could clearly have observable effects,” he says.
Any such bugs in our Matrix world would have to be extremely subtle, or else we would have noticed them by now. Silas Beane, a nuclear physicist at the University of Washington in Seattle, proposes that we may be able to ferret out previously overlooked flaws by uncovering the mathematical structure used to build our simulated reality.
He points out that scientists in his field use a lattice-like set of coordinates to simulate the behavior of subatomic particles. If our reality is built on top of a lattice, there’d be a fundamental coarseness to it, since there could be no details in our mock-universe smaller than the resolution of the simulation.
Even if the resolution limit is too small for us to observe directly, Beane says, we may be able to detect it experimentally. In a paper he wrote with two colleagues, Beane proposes that a simulation lattice could affect the behavior of ultra-energetic particles known as cosmic rays, affecting their orientation and maximum intensity.
Instruments like the Telescope Array, a network of 500 detectors scattered across 300 square miles of Utah desert, watch for cosmic rays as they crash into Earth’s atmosphere from deep space. The detectors have already discovered particles as much as 100 quintillion times as energetic as visible light. That seems like a great place to start hunting for bugs in any simulation.
Isaiah Miller
We are but it's not as you think. It's called God's Creation
Christopher Young
Can I leave this simulation and be in a new one then? I've got thousands of notes for the devs.
Dominic Perry
Bumping thread for Millie
Jason Powell
Another way to sleuth for glitches in the simulation is by looking inward rather than outward. In a recently proposed test, former NASA engineer Thomas Campbell and his colleagues point out that human video game designers typically maximize the efficiency of their programming by generating only the parts of the virtual world that players can see. If our Matrix overlords are similarly focused on efficiency, they may be meticulous about simulating details while we’re watching an event, but allow a looser style of simulation when they think nobody is looking.
Following that line of thought, Campbell is focusing on subtle quantum physics experiments, where gaps in the simulation might be most obvious. He has conceived several tabletop optics arrangements that would shoot a laser beam through an elaborate sequence of slits, mirrors and detectors. Photons of laser light would follow different paths contingent on whether they are behaving like waves or like particles, which in turn depends on the structure of the setup.
Or rather, it should depend only on the setup. If reality is rendered at the moment we are watching, Campbell theorizes, his experiment could yield results normally considered impossible, such as being able to predict whether an individual photon passes through or bounces back when it hits a half-reflective mirror. That outcome would "represent an unambiguous indicator that our reality must be simulated," he writes.
As a huge bonus, Campbell claims the experiment could also explain the weird way that events in quantum physics seem to be influenced by the observer: It may be a quirk of the simulation we live in, not a fundamental aspect of reality.
Jose Walker
Can you hack jullien assange out of jail and epstein back in?
K thanks bai
Cooper Moore
no proof in that wall of text
Blake Wood
PROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOF>>>>??????????
Cooper Campbell
Id sage and hide
Bot threads are gay
Mason Fisher
>If computer-loving aliens truly exist, we are almost certainly living in a computer simulation.
crock of shit
he gives no reason why we would live in simulation
Levi White
I would think that the wave-particle duality is plenty of sign that hings are simulated. Or perhaps quantum in general.
We've known about that for decades, but people don't take it as proof of the simulation hypothesis. I have no doubt that any other 'evidence' would also fail to convince people.
Luis Reyes
Ok but this still isn’t proof of anything
Jack Walker
“ It makes sense: In a far more mundane way, we really are all trapped in a computer. You could argue that tech billionaires who built their lives out of lines of code would only ever see the things that surround them as digital artifice. But there’s always been the lingering suspicion that our reality is somehow unreal—it’s just that what we once thought about in terms of dreams and magic, cosmic minds or whispering devils, is now expressed through boring old computers, that piece of clunky hardware that waits predatory on your desk every morning to code the finest details of your life.
Kabbalist mysticists, Descartes with his deceiving demon, and Zhuangzi in his butterfly dream have all questioned the reality of their sense-experiences, but this isn’t a private, solipsistic hallucination; in the simulation hypothesis, reality is a prison for all of us. Its real antecedents are the Gnostics, an early Christian sect who believed that the physical universe was the creation of the demiurge, Samael or Ialdaboath, sometimes figured as a snake with the head of a lion, a blind and stupid god who creates his false world in imperfect imitation of the real Creator. This world is a distorted mirror, an image; in other words, a kind of software.
The Gnostics were often accused by other early Christians of Satanism, and they might have had a point: Many identified the jealous, petty, prurient God of the Old Testament with the Demiurge, while sects such as the Ophites revered the serpent in the Garden of Eden as the first to offer knowledge to humanity, freeing them from their first cage. And something Luciferian persists in the techno-Gnostics of San Francisco. They have decided that our universe is the conscious creation of a higher power, and now they’re massing their armies to storm the gates of heaven and go to war with God. And like Goethe’s Mephistopheles, their doctrine is omnicidal. ‘All that exists deserves to perish”
Sebastian Wright
It's one of those things that cannot be proven. Just like the existence of God.
Jacob Ross
It would surprise me in the least. But if I told you that we're also simulated?
Cameron Richardson
CORRECTION: it wouldn't surprise my in the least
Charles White
The alien n00b playing me better start using some hacks or get gud
Jack Gomez
What if I told you the man who created simulation theory was jewish
Luis Clark
Turn it off cunt, I'm bored
Sebastian Ross
Maybe if you're lucky.
You know what how NPCs are made? Their players quit, leaving the character under AI control.
Blake Wilson
where's my lootbox?
Ayden Bennett
In my eyes then, the fact that one has to “believe” in it makes it just as ridiculous as any other absurd claim
Gabriel Ortiz
You need to pay alien shekels to get those.
Angel Rivera
I understand it well. Probably far more than you too, because I am aware of the numbers, what they mean, and how to manifest, if albeit primitively.
Noah Brown
Fair enough. I've seen enough evidence to say that I'm leaning yes... But acknowledge that it can't be proven.
That said, even if it is true, this guy has the right idea:
John Myers
The problem proof = perish.
“ Preston Greene, an assistant professor of philosophy at Nanyang Technological University in Singapore, argues if scientists were to find out our Universe is a simulation, it could cause the creators to cancel the experiment.
Prof Greene’s logic is in standard medical experiments when trialists are being given drugs, it is important they do not know whether they are receiving the real deal or a placebo.
If the participants in a medical study do find out what they have received, the test becomes null and void.
By this theory, if we were to find out we are in a simulation, Prof Greene, who is currently working on an upcoming research paper on the subject, believes the potential creators could cancel our Universe – and thus life as we know it.
Prof Greene wrote: “If we were to prove that we live inside a simulation, this could cause our creators to terminate the simulation — to destroy our world.
Of course, the proposed experiments may not detect anything that suggests we live in a computer simulation.
“In that case, the results will prove nothing. This is my point: The results of the proposed experiments will be interesting only when they are dangerous.
“While there would be considerable value in learning that we live in a computer simulation, the cost involved — incurring the risk of terminating our universe — would be many times greater.”
Jonathan Cruz
>What if I told you we are living in a simulation?
I would ask you for the cheat codes.
This game sucks. It takes forever to level up.
Christopher Powell
It's not a simulation, it's just a holographic loosh farm for asshole extradimensionals. Jesus will help you escape though.
Xavier Price
i had a mushroom trip tell me my life is fake so probably
Dominic James
Not sure I'd trust that asshole to lead me anywhere.
Didn't he curse a fig tree because his father chose the wrong time for it be in season?
Adrian White
What if I told you....
Ian Edwards
What if I told you that morpheus never said 'what if I told you'
Julian Cox
>an assistant professor of philosophy
opinion disregarded
Jose Sanchez
It's more likely a God dream. The universe and all existence reduces to consciousness. God is creating an infinite set of subjective experiences through the physical world. Basically, you're God! Just as the simple Mandelbrot set zn+1=zn^2+c mapped out gives rise to an infinite set of fractals, the physical world exists as a mathematical object. This is why mathematics is so good at describing the physical world. Watch this talk to get the idea. The whole talk is worth listening to, but you can start at 1:29:00 and watch at least 10 minutes.
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Juan Cooper
Ah, yes. I too took an introductory philosophy class in college and learned about solipsism.
Isaiah Richardson
I KNEW IT