/trek/

>Hey our show sucks, lets rehash a character from a good Trek show, and rehash his banishment from the Klingon Empire plot too !

Holy shit how is this allowed?

People talk shit about Voyager but at least it was original and didnt rip off TNG

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star trek is the most boring franchise in the world

>start a trek thread by shit-talking a series
nah, fuck off

But user star wars exists

>upset someone dared to criticize DS9

You fags ruin trek threads by jerking it off in every single one

Boring setting
Bad Acting
Shitty magic elements that dont fit
Only interesting characters, like Garak are wasted by being special appearances

No, it's a bad way to start a thread no matter what series is getting shit on. Nice assumptions though.

>Its bad to say mean things about a show
>on Sup Forums
Holy shit, I know its overused, but you seriously need to go back to red dit

Why does Worf look different in DS9? Why does he have eyebrows all of the sudden

They thickened them up in DS9, but they were always there.

anyone have the corresponding image for TNG?

DS9 literally saved Worf's character with the soccer childhood story.

DS9-Worf was fucking awesome because DS9 didn't nerf him all the time.

Can't we just not circlejerk our favorite show and actually let people talk about what they want?

btw ENT is worst trek

I'm watching ENT for the first time and I'm actually loving it. It might be one of the best things Star Trek has done to be honest.

"Commander, tell me about your sexual organs."

>TNG-Worf
>wrong about almost everything, bad at his job, little to no personality, Worf-centric plots are less about him and more about Klingons in general
>DS9-Worf
>shows multiple sides, funny, witty, understandable why Jadzia falls in love with him, deep moral choices that conflict with previous notions of the character but work because of character development

The only Klingons DS9 ruined is Gowron.

"Commander, let me tell you about my sexual organs."

How the fuck did it ripoff TNG, because of one nostalgia character who was one dimensional in TNG anyway?

TNG was a show similar to original trek, MOST episodes and story arcs about exploration, allegory for this or that, the human condition, yadda yadda.

DS9 was MOSTly space politics, space religion and pew pew pew. Completely different in the overall styles.

Also...Ezri Dax was the best Dax

Are you implying that Worf wasn't just a shit character that was basically a fucking space snickers?

Friendly reminder that Dukat did nothing wrong.

>voyager
>original
nice b8 m8, thread is sure to hit bump limit

TOS and ENT are the only ones worth watching. The rest is nu-male fodder.

ENT is comfy as fuck.

>TOS and ENT are the only ones worth watching.
imagine being this guy

Check the link at the bottom.

What did she mean by this?

Comics do crossovers all the time to boost sales. It isn't a big deal. Or did I just get baited?

Anyways /trek/ thread.

That was when DS9 was tanking in ratings and they were getting desperate. Between that and meme episodes like bringing back the mirror universe and le epic tribble episode it was clear they were scrambling to try to gain back the same Star Trek fanbase they shit on from the start with their "mature" and "serious" space drama
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Also I love all the DS9 fags claiming that DS9 Worf was more of a character when he had a reverse character arc.

But, oh well, it's not like you can actually discuss with them. They will just call you names and claim that you are wrong.

>le epic tribble episode
That was a season later and it was part of the 30th anniversary celebration. Voyager did the same thing except Voyager is shit so their TOS tribute episode was also shit.

Yeah but that's a Galaxy far far away user

Except that was actually a better episode that wasn't just DUDE REMEMBER LE TRIBBLE?!

Did you get molested by Ira Steven Behr or something? I can understand not being a fan of DS9, but I don't even know how to engage with someone who thinks Voyager is better.

>But, oh well, it's not like you can actually discuss with them. They will just call you names and claim that you are wrong.
Oh, the irony.

I said that the episode was better, and you can't refute it other than OMG DS9 IS OVERALL BETTER SO THAT EPISODE IS BETTER TOO DESPITE BEING SHIT!

>this episode that is universally loved is shit because I said so
How am I supposed to argue with you? You aren't making arguments, just stating your heterodox opinions as fact. When you make unsupported claims there's really nothing to do except say that I disagree.

best dabo slut

Commander my tricorder readings indicate that OP is an attention seeking fagot

>universally loved

I see, already with ad populum. Also of course a meme episode with lol tribbles *wink wink* is going to be universally loved. I don't expect you faggots to actually confront scripts, acting etc.

It had Sisko looking serious while wearing a TOS uniform, epic xD I even made a reaction image lol! Univrsally loved! I don't have to argue anymore!!"

This is you by the way

Can some m8 post that infographic on how to get into star trek

So what was wrong with the Tribble episode then?

Even the writer of Flashback thinks that Flashback was the weaker episode.
>"It was a nice little tribute, not as good as 'Trials and Tribble-ations' from Deep Space Nine. It was OK. I just think they came up with a better idea." - Brannon Braga

it's a show where grown adults play space pretend. fucking lighten up m8

>appeal to authority

This is getting better and better

I am sorry I am an actual Star Trek fan and not just a DS9 fan so I take Star Trek seriously.

please learn what nu male means

I honestly can't tell if you're serious or trying to concern troll people into thinking ds9 haters are insane spergs.

When DS9 first aired I gave up early into the third season. I'm currently rewatching the entire series and during those first three seasons I was seriously asking myself why I gave up, because I was enjoying it way more than I had TNG, which I had just finished beforehand. At the moment I'm two-thirds of the way through season 4, and frankly I agree with OP. Worf brought the show's momentum to a screeching halt, whether it's by design or not I don't feel any connection between him and the rest of the cast, and my enthusiasm for the show has dropped to the point where I haven't watched an episode in a week, I know I'll go back as I plan to watch everything eventually, but did anyone else experience this? Does it get good again?

Worf gets better at integrating with the rest of the show after season 4's Bar Association, where Odo calls him out on his shit.

what are the essential tos episodes?

denofgeek.com/tv/star-trek-the-original-series/36626/star-trek-tos-an-episode-roadmap-for-beginners

how shitty is that guide? explain your reasoning.

If anything it shows that DS9 fans have nothing to say since they only focused on the "i-it's was for the 30 years so it was ok for it to be a shallow episode that only worked because of refeences!"

I guess these are the same people that clap when they watch a new Star Wars movie and see the Millenium Falcon or the JJ Trek which had tribbles too.

I would recommend using that guide only for TOS season 3, which has the most garbage episodes.

For seasons 1 and 2, you should make an honest attempt to just watch everything (in production order, starting with "Where No Man Has Gone Before" and "The Corbomite Maneuver").

I've only watched one episode past Bar Association so this is good to know, thanks.

Hang in there.

The Klingon plotline is mostly resolved in the first episode of season 5, and entirely resolved in the midway point of season 5. After that, Worf is just another regular member of the senior staff.

>because I was enjoying it way more than I had TNG
>trying this hard to fit in

why are DS9gag plebs such tryhards? they always have to point out how they like it better than other series

Star Trek: The Motion Picture

Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home

Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country

Star Trek (2009)

These film recs seem kinda bad. Isn't Khan an absolute classic? I remember seeing that as a kid and being awestruck. I saw the 2009 one in the theater and it wasn't bad but it wasn't exactly good either. I own 1 2 3 4 and 6 on tape actually. Which one should I watch and why?

Oh you. You almost got me. Voyager was original, indeed.

Watch all 6 original movies.

1 is divisive. Half the fandom loves it, half the fandom hates it. There's no way to know how you'll react until you see it.

2 is great, as you remember.

3 is meh.

4 is great.

5 is garbage. Everybody hates it, but with a loving appreciation for its few nuggets of gold.

6 is great.

Avoid JJ.

>There is a universe out there where Roddenberry never existed and StarTrek never happened.

dang i would think the first one would be canon. wasn't the third one panned and generally looked at as a stopgap to the later films? i haven't seen the last few so thx for the recs. if anybody else feels like chiming in it'd be cool to have a few opinions

at least he died before watching DS9 destroy everything he workd for

I don't need to fit in, you silly fuck. The reason I'm posting in this thread is because OP was bitching about Worf in DS9 and that's the exact problem I've been having with it. Did you miss the part where I said I dropped DS9 the first time I watched it? I dropped Voyager and Enterprise at about the same point when they first aired as well.

TOS and TNG are the only Trek series I've ever made it through. I'd always considered TNG not just my favorite Trek but one of my favorite overall television shows ever. When I rewatched it recently though I was forced to admit there are a lot of really mediocre episodes, and that the crew wasn't as strong as I'd remembered either. Picard, Data, Worf, and Wesley are the only characters who show any kind of growth, and Wesley fucks off halfway through. They tried with Troi and the "I guess I should take being a Starfleet officer seriously now that we're in the sixth season" storyline but that was a dud, and Beverly stays her same boring self. Geordi actually gets worse.

When I restarted DS9 I didn't feel any of that. It'd been twenty years so I barely remembered anything that happened but I was immediately drawn into the story and getting to know the crew again. I've found the overall quality to be much higher than what I'd gotten used to with TNG until this season, when Worf came in and suddenly everything seemed to revolve around him and a bunch of stuff TNG had already covered.

>they always have to point out how they like it better than other series

I brought it up because I finished rewatching TNG two months ago and started DS9 the next day, of course I'm going be comparing them in my mind. If Ronald Moore shit in your cereal I'm real sad for you but that's your business. Don't make it mine.

cool emotional tweet/blogpost m8. are you sure you know where you are?

What are you, the Sup Forums police?

wee ooo wee ooo

*pssht* we have a n00b pulling up *chkkk*

yeah 10 4 big buddy we've got a big guy on our 12

>no argument, better attack the length of his post

Better than you whining about "tryhards" like a 15 year old.

>it's a voyager fags are still desperate in the face of the reality that ds9 is objectively the best content ever made with the trek label episode

How can DS9 be the best Star Trek when it's only the second-best Star Trek?

DS9 is barely star trek, it's only star trek in name

You keep saying that, but everyone else keeps not caring about what you have to say.

You can spend the rest of your life continuing to attack everybody who likes Star Trek differently than you do, but I don't think that you'll ever manage to accomplish anything worthwhile or convince anyone to adopt your views.

Oh well.

I am not the only one that says that, a lot of people do
Only here on Sup Forums DS9 is the most beloved series

/trek/ threads used to be good until 1-2 dedicated anti- DS9 autists started shitting it up the past few weeks

nobody gives a shit if other people like it and you don't

no they were good before DS9 fanboys started spamming and hating on all the other series, don't try to rewrite history now

Yes, all two of you are gathered here, you two who dedicate your lives to calling all DS9 fans "fags", "plebs", "babbies", "retards" and more. And it's such a waste of your life. I don't believe that your current approach will ever convince anyone to stop liking DS9 and pick up the flag of your anti-DS9 crusade. If anything, it only serves to unify the rest of the fandom against you.

But it really kills you to see people enjoy things, doesn't it? When you post on Reddit, do you also attack people for liking TNG (Reddit's favorite Trek)? You shouldn't let it bother you so much that you can't tell the difference between "spamming" and people discussing the things that they enjoy.

All Star Treks get hated on. The problem is that you take it personally when someone says (for example) "I don't like Voyager", as if you worked on that show so an attack on it is also an attack on you. Then, when you retaliate, you're not content with "I don't like DS9", you have to go with endless variations of "I don't like DS9's fans". Every thread has some pointless flamewar because you go on an unprovoked attack while pretending to be a victim.

Just give it up already.

oh it's the "only one person on the planet dislikes ds9" shitposter

...

you got BTFO

They were following the Babylon 5 playbook

B5 introduced a new character, an outsider a warrior

So DS9 did too, but they must not have wanted to make an original character

triggered

youtube.com/watch?v=Jkinv1Ew3eI

Why are voyager fanboys always making threads shitting on DS9?

>shitpost about other series for years
>make thousand of images to shit on other series
>some time later
>w-why do they persecute as so much?

Truly the muslims of the Star Trek fanbase

the 3rd one is pretty good

I've never shitposted about any other of the series :(

...

So much for Star Trek being """"progressive""" and ahead of its time

In a previous thread they admitted that someone hurt their feelings in 2010, and they've spent the last 7 years pursuing a vendetta over those hurt feelings.

Now which half-assed villain dragged down the series and needed fleshing out the most, the Pah-Wraiths or the Terraists?

>can't make new threads due to Hiro trying to force Passes
>all new Star Trek threads are fucking cancer
I... I think I'm going to buy a Pass

>No, it's a bad way to start a thread no matter what series

30,000 Voyager threads start this way all the time, and you, never seem to mind or protest. Why would you suddenly care now? Oh, because the shoe is on the other foot, and they are bad mouthing ds9.

It's been a long road
Getting from there to here
It's been a long time
But my time is finally near
And I can feel the change in the wind right now
Nothing's in my way
And they're not gonna hold me down no more
No, they're not gonna hold me down

All the TOS films are worth watching, some are better than others. All the TNG films are worthless trash, all the Jewjew films are even worse, basically nothing to do with star trek.

Whatever helps you guys and lets you avoid any criticism and actual discussion about DS9 instead of constant circlejerking about the old same tired themes

This is a meme, First Contact and Generations are perfectly fine. Insurrection feels more like a two parter but is still ok and Nemesis is the only bad one.

what a shitty opinion. Roddenberry was a retarded communist. Garak is a better character than anything that dead faggot could hope to conceive.

>Whatever helps you guys and lets you avoid any criticism and actual discussion about DS9
Did you miss the part where I called the Pah-Wraiths a "half-assed villain" which "dragged down the whole series"?

We're not trying to avoid criticism.

You just live in a fantasy world.

It's pretty obviously one guy who posts these threads. There are plenty of people who don't like DS9 or prefer other series, but only one turbosperg crusading against it on Sup Forums.

nice try
these are your usual DS9 fans

>It's an archives fanatic user posts links, and screenshots from the archives episode.

I beat you were also the one egging that user on in that thread just so you could create this screenshot. Personally I find both shows enjoyable for different reasons.

It's not a meme to avoid any of TNG's dullest entries in the Star Trek franchise's history. Seriously, each flick following Action Picard and his chad pals from Enterprises D&E as they fight revenge-seeking Khan-lites has been indistinguishable from the others. Aside from the gloomy imagery, those films’ only consistency has been their lack of excitement and ineffective use of special effects, all to make scifi into scifantasy, to deliver the franchise into the hands of JJ.

Perhaps the die was cast when Berman vetoed the idea of Frakes directing Nemesis; he made sure the cast's final entry would never be mistaken for a work of art that meant anything to anybody, just ridiculously profitable milking of geekdom's sacred cow. The TNG movies might be anti-Roddenberry (or not), but they're certainly the anti-TOS movies in their refusal of wonder, beauty and excitement. No one wants to face that fact. Now, thankfully, they no longer have to.

>a-at least the TNG books were good though
"No!"
The writing is dreadful; the books are terrible. As I read one, I noticed that every time the author ran out of ideas, they wrote instead another character from another series crossing over to bail them out.

I began marking on the back of an envelope every time that a character from a different series appeared in a novel for TNG. I stopped only after I had marked the envelope over forty-seven times. I was incredulous. The minds of TNG novel authors are so governed by cliches and dead metaphors that they have no other style of writing. Later, I read a lavish, loving review of one such TNG novel by the StarTrek.com official website. They wrote something to the effect of, "If you're still hungry for even more Next Generation, then check out Star Trek/Doctor Who: Assimilation^2, available now at a local LCS store near you." And they were quite right. They were not being ironic. When you read shitty TNG fanfic books, you are, in fact, trained to read shitty TNG fanfic comics.

>I beat you were also the one egging that user on in that thread
Correct, but I don't see how that makes a difference.

They still admitted to pursuing a pointless vendetta for 7 years just because their feelings were hurt in 2010.

In comparison, I only wasted 7 minutes of my time on a pointless screencap.

Cause I've got faith of the heart
I'm going where my heart will take me

he only claimed that DS9 fans were annoying
he never said he has been shitposting for 7 years

I read the ultimate post as confirming it after the penultimate post asked for clarification.

I've got faith to believe