NFA repeal if Trump wins

If Trump wins, I think we should immediately start contacting our gun friendly member's of Congress to get the NFA repealed. This would be our best chance.

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Why not get him to start pushing it for it now. And other politicians up for elections?

No Republican would support repealing the NFA.

That $200 is income. The GOP holds money above all other things. They would be crucified over removing income from the government.

Considering he's proposed a +30% tariff on imported goods, this might not be the case

$200 bucks isn't shit to the government. T

rump would've the political capital to pull this off, and a bunch of Republican in Congress would go along with it now, and ones on the fence about it would likely go for it after a Trump victory.

Hell, this could easily be put into on omnibus bill with the Dems having no chance to block it.

>Implying the GOP is ProGun and not just AntiDemocrat Platform.

Kek.

>The GOP holds money above all other things.
That was the pre-Trump cuckservative iteration of the party. The RNC this year is all about nationalism, safety, security, and the rule of law. Nothing quite says "get fucked, hajjis" like an M240 in every house in America.

And I don't buy the argument that this will never happen because it will destroy the investment of a bunch of politicians buddy's. Who do you think would have more influence over them, their golf buddy, or S&W, Ruger, Colt and all the other manufactures of Ar's that know people wont be converting what they already own, but buying new from them.

You realize the millions in lost value in registered MGs in private collections would keep this from ever happening.

So many MG owners sent death threats to the guys behind the Lawsuit to sue for machine guns.

See the post above you. Gun makers would make millions if not billions selling new full-autos. Private collectors would just have to eat it, or hang themselves.

Plus, all the old MGs that people currently own will still be collectors items, so they'll still have value.

NFA will never get repealed, but if Trump wins, it's very likely he will sign a big pro-gun bill as a statement. I'm guessing we might see silencers come off the NFA, and/or the MG registry opening back up. Probably national reciprocity for concealed carry permits too.

Colt would fight an NFA repealment. Colt is cuck as fuck.

They will go from being worth $25000 to maybe $3000

This.

Trump is even worse, he'd compromise the 2nd away if he had to.

I think we should go for three things.

1. open machine gun registry
2. change import laws. if it is legal to own, it is legal to import.
3. allow people to purchase pistols across state lines with out involving a second FFL.

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Colt needs money more than a fat ugly hooker with a heroin habit. They'd love this.

There would be a drop in old mg's, but nothing like that. This would just impact newer weapons without history.

All Colt does is make AR's and 1911's. If suddenly people can start buying MG's again, Colt is going to make a killing because dat rollmark

>give Putin more money
Yeah, no. Tell US companies to make a decent AK.

Putin isn't our enemy.

The best thing Trump could do, is to warm up relationships with Russia. Get Putin to back off the Baltics and Nordics. In exchange we lift sanctions, buy oil/gas from them, and side with them in Middle Eastern conflicts.

The best thing Trump could do is send over a hit squad.

Fuck off commie.

Go fuck yourself. If we started importing AKs again, the US would have to make decent AKs to compete. Right now there is no competition so companies like centry can churn out trash guns. Also countries like South Korea, China and Finland produce some good guns that are banned arbitrarily.

Cold war is dead, moron. Stop taking notes from the COD modern warfare plot on geopolitics.

Then lift restrictions on those countries.
And Century has always and will always churn out shit, what's your point?

You haven't heard of Putin before, have you?

Because people want cheap AKs and we are still importing guns from Russia anyway.

>PUTIN IS BAD

Bush Jr had a great relation with him. And we still buy products from Russia. You're a fucking idiot if you think Russia was getting a huge amount of income from Izhmash AKs and not ores, fuels and precious metals, that which the US and her allies still buy in significant numbers. The Izhmash ban was pocket gun control and supporting it makes you a useful idiot to the dems and antiguns.

Not gonna happen. Trump and Putin are basically the same person. That's why they admire each other so much.

don't forget the still vast stockpiles of soviet surplus in russia. that can't be imported to the USA because of Clinton.

lift that and we can see $100 nuggets, $200 russian SKS, $300 SVT40s, $100 Nagant Revolvers, Tokarevs, and Makarovs.

Corrosive spam can ammo for pennies.

Am I the only one who doesn't think Trump will do anything, and just sit around blaming other politicians for not doing stuff?

>You realize the millions in lost value in registered MGs in private collections would keep this from ever happening.
>So many MG owners sent death threats to the guys behind the Lawsuit to sue for machine guns.

It's their fault making full autos into an investment instead of fun

I hate commies too, but putin is pretty based. Kills muzzies and does what he wants. Angela merkel is traumatized by dogs because of something when she was younger, so for every meeting putin and merkel have, he brings his dogs.

> Voting for either
Enjoy being a tool of the broken system famalam

You forgot the single action army.

But why is every colt non-handgun a variation on the AR?

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That's probably exactly what will happen

>best chance
agree
>chance in hell
probably not

Telling Putin to back off from Baltic is like telling US to back off from Mexico. Those little states have large Russians populations and represent a strategic choke hold on Russia. If you want peace US should withdraw out of Baltics and Ukraine. So Russia can expand its sphere to where it feels safe, the Carpathian and the shorter point in Polish plain.

> Refusing to vote for a circular government that doesn't meaningfully change anything and consistently tramples rights and instead voting for a third party that's consistent and places freedom over feelings
> Lol fedorafag


And where are these shitty memes coming from, Sup Forums as usual I'm assuming

DUDE WEED LMFAO

Is that the best response you have mate

> He doesn't want economic and personal freedoms
> He likes voting for governments that spy on him legally

Just fuck my liberty up famalam

Libertarianism is suicide without strong border security and tight immigration controls due to the freeloader effect, and Gary "Tiny" Johnson isn't willing to provide the prerequisite security. He's also an anti-gunner douche canoe who has a former Democratic governor of Massachusetts on the ticket with him.

> Automatically assuming Libertarian
That's where you're wrong, kiddo

When the guy's solution to immigration is A BIG WALL and his solution to terrorism is NO MORE MUSLIMS it kinda follows that his solution to gun violence is probably going to be OKAY NO MORE GUNS.

People who think that Colt gives a shit about the Civi market never lived through the 1994 gun ban or has never sold Colt products.

They don't give a fuck.

This

Plus, the dude supports the PATRIOT act and is completely fine with the NSA spying on us
That's pretty fucking evil, and instead of voting for Hillary or Bernie which are in effect the same on these issues, I'll vote for a candidate worth a damn

How does libertarianism allow freeloaders? The govt would not giving shit away not that the candidates today are truely libertarian tho

>So many MG owners sent death threats to the guys behind the Lawsuit to sue for machine guns.

Well if that is truly the case then the FBI/ATF should go to their homes, confiscate all their firearms, and arrest them.

I would be onboard to lynch the bastards.

>How does libertarianism allow freeloaders?
The government under libertarianism is too small to prevent tragedies of the commons.

And the MGs will be removed from circulation.

So I should vote for some open-border twat. Thanks for the insight, dipshit.

Or, maybe, just maybe, I vote for the candidate that I feel genuinely represents my best interests.

>I'm so fucking enlightened I'm not even gonna say I'm registered with the only relevant third-party even
Jesus, just off yourself you noncommittal, smug fuckstain.

Libertarianism comes in different flavors.

You got the actual libertarians, who want reduced government size and involvement in every aspect, from military, to taxes, to immigration. Anarcho-capitalists are the extreme end of the libertarian spectrum. Some people have divided libertarians into 'left' and 'right', but the 'left and right' political spectrum is bullshit, so disregard that. Libertarians are equal parts lefties and righties if you insist on doing that. They are small government liberals, essentially.

Then you have 'libertarian-socialists', who are essentially anarcho-communists and left-wing minarchists. Basically reduce or eliminate all levels of government except local government, townships and communes etc. Direct democracy. That kind of stuff.

Then you have those types that are often republicans, who want to cut taxes for certain things (healthcare, teachers wages, environmental protections, welfare) but not for others (the military, social security). The Tea party has certainly taken some libertarian talking points, but are not liberal enough to be libertarians as they also tend to be social and religious conservatives, that doesn't jive with libertarian/liberal philosophy.

Republicans believe in that trickle-down theory of economics, that doesn't work. They want to cut social programs and reduce taxes for the rich, but not for other things. And because of this, they have to pay for what they do with debt.

you can go ahead and be an irrelevant hipster, meanwhile I and others are going to try and keep the biggest threat to the second amendment since Feinstein from obtaining POTUS and nominating a whopping three Justices to interpret the Constitution as she sees fit

> Voting for someone you don't support
That would make me a cuck, user
And a cuck I am not


To be truthful user, our country is going to be fucked, and freedom will be eroded with either candidate. Again, why I won't vote for freedom hating asshats.

that's fine, I'd prefer that there be as few irrelevant smugfags who can't even begin to present viable alternatives in their self-righteous tirades polluting this already-shitty situation as possible
>my country
it's not your country, you don't even vote. you mean nothing.

Spoiler alert; every politician wants to try and take your freedom in one way or another, but it's clear now you're not even old enough to vote, so this is irrelevant.

I would have voted for Bernie, sure I didn't agree with his gun stance, but I liked more of what he was saying than the other democrats.

I would have preferred if Rand Paul won the republican nomination. Voting for Trump is a non-option for me.

So I'm going third party, that's the protest vote, doesn't matter who even. My state will go blue, it always does, and in states that always go to one team, your vote doesn't matter. So it doesn't fucking matter where my vote goes anyways.

And shillary wants to take a fuckload more of MY freedoms than Trump, so you'll understand why I will gladly vote for him instead of lecture people on Sup Forums about how superior I am for not taking a stance

I'll be glad if he wins at this point.

Once Hillary gets in the Supreme Court shifts left and you can kiss the second amendment goodbye.

Bernie would have also fucked us on the Supreme Court.

Ever watched the votes in Congress? Democrats are in lockstep and it's only the Republicans that waver from party lines on important votes.

>Ever watched the votes in Congress? Democrats are in lockstep and it's only the Republicans that waver from party lines on important votes

When they hell did that start?

It was always republicans in lock-step and democrats divided, since Reagan.

Was it the tea party that did that?

>That $200 is income
Objectively false. The tax stamp was ludicrously expensive at the time it was introduced, and was only supposed to keep funs out of the hands of law abiding citizens. Now that inflation has made the $200 stick-up bearable, the goons at the ATF use insanely long wait times to keep "regulated" items out of the market. That, and you have to register your firearm.

>0.50 shekels have been deposited in your account .

The only candidate that stands a chance of not fucking up 2A rights is Johnson.

Looks like you haven't been following Johnson or his vp at all...

Johnson is the worst kind of libertarian. He is steadfast everywhere he shouldn't be, and compromises everywhere he should.

He is beyond willing to compromise on any of your rights and won't back down on shit that would only ever work in a completely utopian world.

*compromises everywhere he shouldn't*

>implying Trump will do anything for anyone
once a sucker always a sucker

I know a lot of you guys will have a problem with what I'm saying, however as a disclaimer I would really like to see the whole NFA repealed.

As a "compromise" however, I wouldn't take a huge issue if the NFA remained in place with some changes.

In no particular order:
1. The ATF was disbanded, and their responsibilities absorbed into the FBI
2. The Hughes amendment were repealed
3. Instead of having to give a semen sample and wait 9 months for approval like you're waiting for a gestating child, wait times for approval are brought down to less than 3 weeks on average.

I understand how retarded it is to threaten a prison sentence of 10 years for somebody that has a shotgun with a 17" barrel, and truthfully the NFA is a poorly thought out piece of legislation which should ultimately be repealed. However if new machine guns weren't banned from being added to the registry and wait times weren't so long I'm sure most firearm enthusiasts wouldn't have a problem with it and would make it easier to sell the idea to the conservative fudds who think an ar with a 14.5" barrel is somehow more deadly and concealable or that silencers make a .357 magnum revolver dangerously quiet.

Those are all fair. I'm just hoping that at a minimum suppressors and SBRs will come to be treated like handguns; i.e., 4473 and in 30 minutes you're on your way.

>implying they're in circulation now

Suppressors should be fucking SUBSIDIZED. They have no function but to make guns quieter, which will protect shooters' ears.

>trusting either of the eliteist anti prole parties

If you can't mobilize a solid ~20% of the country for a third party you're basically throwing your vote away. Principles are nice things, but electoral math wins every time.

>The best thing Trump could do, is to warm up relationships with Russia.
And he never will.

When did this board become full of nihilistic children?

And what will you do? Just not vote? Low voter turnout has sure been teaching those big bad gubmint guys a lesson for the last few decades.

You had me at $300 svt40

I think
>Lol just don't vote fuck da system
is the new
>Obama is totally not going to come for your gun guys, stop being paranoid and vote for him already

Colt revives the Masada when?

They have already had a decent partnership with Magpul by including their rear sights on most of their rifles, and the LE6920MPs sell like hotcakes.

Kek no

>Colt don't give a single shit about civ market
>They keep bringing civ-oriented products to market
Something doesn't add up here friend. No business wants to actively segregate itself from prospective markets.

This

That retarded weednigger literally threw away a gifted gun in the trash at the LP convention.

>refuse to vote
>end up with the worst possible option
You fucking fail game theory

You know, apathetic short-sighted retards like you are part of the reason why we have such low voter-turnout during the general elections, and why politicians don't feel the pressure to really listen to us. You are why we're even in this mess. You are the problem. You.

Why did the libertarian party go to shit the second Rand Paul left?

Because he was the only thing keeping them together, now they're a disorganized shitshow that are basically center-left spoilers. The fact Weld was even considered for the Veep candidacy, let alone ACTUALLY FUCKING SELECTED, is evidence enough that they're fucking done for.

I completely agree.

What you need to understand though if you remove SBRs from the NFA then why shouldn't SBSs be removed as well? If you also remove silencers then basically the NFA has no purpose of existing since you can't pay the stamp for a new "machine gun"

That's what makes the NFA retarded. I mean seriously, how the fuck is a sawed off shotgun or an obrez some how more evil and deserving of restriction than any handgun? Why is it that I can build an AR "pistol" but if it touches my shoulder I need to spend 10 years in jail?

The whole NFA is pile of pointless garbage.

>If you also remove silencers then basically the NFA has no purpose of existing since you can't pay the stamp for a new "machine gun"
You're forgetting the Destructive Device category.

soloution: shoot the reps and dems

>vote hillary/trump
>your rights are erroded because muh terrorism
>your funs are further restricted, moreso with hillary, but still some with trump
>then you can hang your head in shame because you voted for this shit

>vote rand
>trump/hillary gets elected anyway, because people don't give a shit about their freedoms
>your rights are erroded because muh terrorism
>your funs are further restricted, moreso with hillary, but still some with trump
>but you can hold your head high knowing you were'nt one of the morons who voted for this.

>You're forgetting the Destructive Device category.
You're right.

Okay so we get rid of all the shit and change it to the "national explosives act" and remove the requirement for "bore lager than .5 inches needs good sporting purpose"

That would be totally reasonable as a start, although I do want that gone as well later.

Think I'll just vote for Mickey Mouse.

>conservatives fighting each other again

The SCOTUS is at stake, and you want to continue clinging to your "muh real conservatism" Cruzcuck ideology that can't win in the current electorate?

Give me a break. You might as well vote for Hillary.

oohoohoo, so witty xD.

That's where I think the line should be drawn as far as regulation goes.

If we were somehow to repeal the NFA, having a system in place similar to NICS to just basically make sure a violent felon on parole isn't buying a gun fore all firearms, including full auto's, would be fine. Maybe as an excuse to collect taxes there could be some type of system in place that you could sign up to have your address verfied through your local PD so you can order firearms online and have them shipped to your door. Something similar to an FFL, or even a C&R FFL like some of you are familar with, but less bullshit.

I would have to draw the line at explosives though. Practically speaking a 155mm howitzer is useless without ammunition for it so there shouldn't be the need for a destructive device stamp just to purchase it, but if explosive devices were to be completely deregulated that would be insane. Do you really need to be able to walk into a store and buy a 10pack of AP mines? Do most residential homes have the protective measures to even store an 155mm HE shell safely, such that if it were to accidentally detonate, collateral damage would be minimized?

I sure as fuck wouldn't sleep easy if I knew my neighbor just had a few arty rounds in a box 20 feet away from where my children and I sleep.

Now that doesn't mean they shouldn't be banned, but if they basically just make sure you're not affiliated with a terrorist organization and you have an approved storage bunker then sure, but I have no desire to sleep with a live hand grenade in my nightstand. Businesses have to meet safety requirements for storing hazardous materials and if you can meet that requirement then have at it.

I hate this retard mentality
> Hurr if you don't vote for my candidate you might as well be voting for the candidate I don't like
It goes both ways, jackass, neither get my support. How does that in any way equate to 'lol another Hillary vote'

This, at least I'm not pushing for a fucked up system like the rest of these idiots

I'm also nearing the point I'm jumping ship because I see Americans as worthless in the long run, can't wait to ETS

Voting for a third-party or not voting is a vote for Hillary. I don't care how you try to spin it.

>Trump might fuck us over!

Might. Hillary, on the other hand, WILL fuck us over. I'd rather vote for the person that just "might".

And if the Republicans lose this year, then you might as well kiss any chance of them winning on a national level goodbye for good.

Your principles mean shit if the Democrats maintain control, because they'll change the electorate enough that your "principles" will just be a pebble for them to walk over.

I think trump says things for shock value for free publicity, then later corrects his statements when covered by mass media.
Who knows what he'll really do in office

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