Why are atheists such an emotional failure, Sup Forums?
iasp.info/pdf/papers/Bertolote.pdf >In Muslim countries (e.g. Kuwait), where committing suicide is most strictly forbidden, the total suicide rate is close to zero (0.1 per 100,000 population). In Hindu (e.g. India) and Christian countries (e.g. Italy), the total suicide rate is around 10 per 100,000 (Hindu: 9.6; Christian: 11.2). In Buddhist countries (e.g. Japan), the total suicide rate is distinctly higher at 17.9 per 100,000 population. At 25.6, the total suicide rate is markedly highest in Atheist countries (e.g. China) which included in this analysis countries where religious observances had been prohibited for a long period of time (e.g. Albania).
ajp.psychiatryonline.org/doi/full/10.1176/appi.ajp.161.12.2303 >Religious commitment promotes social ties and reduces alienation (33). We found weaker family ties in religiously unaffiliated subjects, and family members are reported to be more likely to provide reliable emotional support, nurturance, and reassurance of worth (37). Our finding is consistent with reports about less dense social networks among atheists (38), although whether distancing from one’s family facilitates disaffiliation from the family’s religion or vice versa is not known.
>tfw atheists have shitty families and have anger issues, thus explaining /r9k/
it's in their nature.. luckily they don't reproduce
Cameron Anderson
eastern europe is considered "atheist" then?
Jacob Lewis
>worshipping a literal jew >christians >not cucks FUCKING KEK U C K I N G
K E K
Kevin Gutierrez
The asspain of the christcuck hue-nigger is real.
Stay mad shit lord
Joshua Ortiz
> worships a jew-on-a-stick and the state as instructed by roman crypto-jews > redpilled
pick one kiddo
Gavin Nguyen
Dear diary: today I cut myself.
Ethan White
>Worshiping the fucking king of Jews
Joshua Hall
Not an argument
Gabriel Roberts
Sup Forums is neither a Christian nor an atheist board. It's a Kekist board.
Alexander Clark
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Landon Edwards
>not an argument
So you are okay worshiping the king of Jews, if you catch my dorito.
Praise kek
Charles Peterson
>Yfw the USA acts like Jesus and lets in all of the unwashed masses
Ryder White
not a n argument
Kevin Rogers
>>In Muslim countries (e.g. Kuwait), where committing suicide is most strictly forbidden, the total suicide rate is close to zero What are all the bombers doing then?
John Gomez
better to have anger issues at society being so stupid and mentally incompetent than act like an innocent perfectly moral theist fag
Anthony Lopez
yeah enjoy passing on your genes so you children can play "life" LOL, have fun!
Bentley Edwards
I would expect this type of discussion with a Brazilian
Xavier Gonzalez
Preventing it from reaching zero?
>he still lacks an argument when put against proper data Come on boy.
Carter Green
Post cute Chirst-chan, I'm filling my folder.
Ryan Thomas
>he still lacks an argument when put against proper data
All you said this whole entire time was "not an argument" my man :^) The burden of proof falls on you my man, if you catch my dorito :^)
David Kelly
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Christian Perez
True.
I'd chalk up the atheist suicide rates to being somewhat aware of a problem, but not having the mental and physical strength to be proud of their views. Muslims directly cause the problem so why suicide if they're getting what they want?
Lucas Allen
this thread is beauti
Andrew Bennett
Muslims don't see themselves or the shit they do as problems. That applies to everyone though, not just them. As for the suicide rates, my guess would be that faith provides strength and courage when there is none left. Nihilism, depression and atheism walk holding hands, after all.
James Richardson
Because the true red pull (i.e. realizing that God doesn't exist) is the hardest one to swallow. Most people can't take it. Very few live a happy life after taking it.
Carter Garcia
How does that relate to family and social issues commonly faced by aheists?
Kevin Powell
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Sebastian Stewart
Nigga, I just care about religion. I don't shit in your corn flakes, so stop trying to shit in mine.
Jordan Jackson
Because a lack of belief in a God and objective meaning to the existence of the Universe leads to nihilism. But not the type of nihilism that encourages one to become a stoic ubermensch, but the kind which leads to a pessimistic view of the world, moral relativism, loss of hope for humanity and at times even misanthropy. This outcome is not conducive to creating a healthy family in any sense. Especially considering that moral relativism leads to mismanagement of child rearing and instills the wrong values in the children.
Sebastian White
If that's the case then I fail to see how becoming an atheist is taking the ultimate redpill when it so easily causes harm to yourself, your loved ones and society as a whole. Why not become a theist agnostic or a deist? It's not like science can disprove the existence of a god-like being - or prove it.
Andrew Ramirez
Lol suicide "strictly" forbidden, in America suicide is illegal and punishable therefore it never happens, atheist are emotional and irrational therefore they don't believe in an invisible sky daddy to take care of them when they die lmao
Adam Price
Why do cuckstians argue with meme pictures?
Sebastian Powell
Ha, and atheists here don't?
Colton Clark
I'm sorry about that, but if I used a picture of one of the articles or something else that is not a meme, the thread would just die with no replies. It's just how this website works. Mea culpa.
Jayden Watson
Because they're dumb and worship the son of a literal cuck who's mom if was born today would be on Maury saying "god impregnated me while you were away honey it definitely wasnt ishmail next door" meanwhile at the end Maury reveals "god.... You are not the father!"
Blake Fisher
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Nathaniel Gonzalez
Here is the cutest.
Aaron Ortiz
Because the red pill is about what's objectively true, not what's good for society. And atheism is only bad for society because the plebeian masses adopt it but can't handle it. Hence why you see all those emotionally damaged fedora lords running around embarrassing themselves.
Ayden Long
The only objective truth about God's existence is that we can neither prove it nor disprove it using science., so taking neither side becomes the redpill. I see the redpill as the balance between truth and what is best for my people.
How would you go about creating a nation of ubermensch when it's a lot easier to do it with the support of religion than with the lack of it?
Aaron Moore
If there isn't evidence for the thing, the red pill would be the ability to wade through religious upbringing and society and come out the other side. Just escaping from it makes one more redpilled by default. It makes you an outlier.
Anyway, whats the point of this thread? Prepackaged existentialism can make people overall happier? So?
How does this prove God, again?
Blake Gutierrez
Christ chan thread?
Ryan Cooper
>Anyway, whats the point of this thread? >Prepackaged existentialism can make people overall happier? So? DESU the point of the thread was to at least bait a discussion. And yeah, it does make people overall happier, which in turn contributes to things like productivity, fertility and even nationalism. But of course, you shouldn't believe in God just for the sake of being happy, that doesn't work - happiness comes after faith is found.
Jason Lopez
>Our finding is consistent with reports about less dense social networks among atheists (38), although whether distancing from one’s family facilitates disaffiliation from the family’s religion or vice versa is not known.
This is a pretty important part of your sourced study.
Also, did you know there is a bias towards not studying atheists in psychiatry and therefore skews the results? Evidence of this is what I pointed out above.
Of course atheists are going to be isolated in a majority Christian society. Christians hold a monopoly on socializing. Forcing some atheists to pretend to be Christians to not be excluded.
You aren't being very honest here.
Alexander Sanders
Gib porn with her.
Sebastian Thompson
I don't believe anymore because I found no evidence. Me not being happy has nothing to do with my atheism. I was unhappy as a Christian. Schizophrenia and depression runs in the family so I was already doomed to dissatisfaction.
I don't disbelieve out of rebellion or because I am mad at God or anything like this. I don't believe because I have found no reason to believe. I am more likely to be a Hindu if I did believe in God. I find the personification of nature in the hindu patheon very intriquing.
Adrian Lopez
One might as well try disproving Santa Claus, but it'll all be fruitless in the end because one cannot prove a negative. The burden of proof is on the party asserting the positive. And so far, the religious have not provided evidence for their supernatural claims.
But all that aside. Not just the lack of belief in religiously-defined gods, but all aspects of the red pill should not be accessible to the masses. Because it devalues the philosophy therein. The moment you teach the pleb anything beyond his understanding, he twists it to fit his own mental limitations.
Take racialism as one example―for the longest time, it was (and still is, albeit secretly) considered by scientists to be an accurate model which explains the differences between the human races. Only after the plebs got a hold of it, did racial genocides come about.
Same story with atheism. It came about as a movement of dissent from the religious worldview among the higher, more educated classes. Only after the plebs got their hands on it did it become this silly stereotype of the fedora man.
It's the same across the board with any intellectual movement, really. Be it libertarianism, nihilism, objectivism, fascism or whatever else.
Understanding that the masses are limited, anti-intellectual and emotionally weak is paramount to the red pill. Be careful about what aspects of the philosophy you share with them. They're unlikely to understand it.
Oliver Martinez
A good example is Atheism +
Was a terrible idea. Once you create something out of it. You begin to dogmatize it. Then it gets infiltrated by feminism then suddenly your group is all about feminism and any disagreement gets you locked out.
Owen Cox
Yeah that made me curious as well.
>Of course atheists are going to be isolated in a majority Christian society. Christians hold a monopoly on socializing. Forcing some atheists to pretend to be Christians to not be excluded. Fair point but why do countries like China still show normalized anti-social behavior from the population?
>You aren't being very honest here. Not trying to be dishonest, the whole study is right there for you to read. The study itself admits its flaws later: >This study has some limitations. For example, it did not assess religious upbringing, religious practice, or the level of personal devotion. Therefore, it is possible that depressed patients who stated that they were atheists or had no religion had abandoned religion as a consequence of depression or hopelessness. It is notable that hopelessness and depression scores were similar in the religious and nonreligious group but that the two groups differed strongly on perceived reasons for living. This suggests that some positive aspect of religious affiliation overcame the negative effects of depression, stressful life events, and hopelessness. Perhaps this was also manifested in the presence of less suicidal ideation.
I'm well aware of the burden of proof and I'll admit that we won't be able to prove anything within science. Regardless, my reasons for having faith are my own.
>Understanding that the masses are limited, anti-intellectual and emotionally weak is paramount to the red pill. Be careful about what aspects of the philosophy you share with them. They're unlikely to understand it. Not trying to be too metaphysical here but doesn't that make having a blue-pilled society a red pill for leaders to have? More so, a blue-pilled society by means of religion would shift it toward happiness and nationalism, thus making religion one the pillars of a strong nation and/or ideology.
Wyatt Phillips
Do you know that a mormon is the head of the american psychiatric association and makes of a point in supporting studies on the religious while ignoring the non religious? The research methods are also improper.
I don't know. Maybe the Chinese support anti-social behavior.
Jason Allen
Could you link a wikipedia page on the individual or something like that? >The research methods are also improper. How so? The ones I linked admit the lack of confirmed causality.
Brody Miller
And to be fair, did you read the study itself and scrutinized it with a fine toothed comb? Can you be sure the research methods were proper?
Sure, I'll do one better: youtu.be/fB7Dlwaufyk She goes into detail on how research doesn't go into studying atheists.
She goes into why the research methods are improper.
Blake Torres
East asians are autism: the race No surprise they're atheists
Isaiah Peterson
Anyway, good talk. Going to bed it's late. Rest well.
If you ever have the time and want to hear the other side of the story, check out that video.
night.
Oh ok.
Logan Richardson
>Can you be sure the research methods were proper? Not really, no. That goes the same way to other kinds of studies. >tfw want to read asian studies on the subject but lack the language Fuck.
>youtu.be/fB7Dlwaufyk Alright, I'll watch it for the sake of personal interest. But since it's 50 minutes long I will be unable to comment on it soon.
Ethan Phillips
Night and God bless.
Josiah Howard
Former Christian atheist here.
I totally respect Christianity and all of its values, but can't bring myself to believe in God.
Can Sup Forums make me Christian again?
Hudson Thompson
That's it, I''m muslim now.
Robert Ward
Only you can return your faith. And faith is not something that you ought to want to have, it's something you just ought to find eventually if you look for it consciously or not.
Andrew Jenkins
Maybe this is also why the fatalism. Like they don't care about keeping their countries safe from Islam and terrorists, they don't care if they live or die and would just rather feel intellectually superior to others over all else.
Its like a brain fetish.
Because religions assign greater value to life giving that they believe they live twice not once, they respect it a lot more, this fear of hell keeps people alive.