What do you think of Native Americans? They are definitely superior to nigs and sandnigs

What do you think of Native Americans? They are definitely superior to nigs and sandnigs.

>Worked for a living
>Werent wasteful


They weren't quite on the levels of whites or Asians but still better then abo's.

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Got btfo by their own immune systems. Still no idea why they were 3000 years behind on everything.

Best we just close the reservations and let them disappear into the sunset.

Well I mean, tough to be immune to something you've never encountered. They seemed like a noble people.

I'm half blood native American. I won't say which tribe, just out of respect. Indians are a lot like niggers desu. The drug problem is out of control, they're super violent to each other, they act superior to every non Indian and then blame white people for everything. You know what's hilarious? My tribe does all those things and still votes republican. They shit on the people they vote for. They're idiots.

Pretty much the only reason I take part in the ceremonies every year is because of my grandpa. I do it for him because he won't be here much longer.

Well yeah, I never said they weren't. I'm a big fan of mesoamerica in particular. What Nezhualcoyotle's strain of thought could have accomplished with more time is really tantalizing to think about. The entire tradition of teotlist thought is great. If only we had more...

I'm an EMT in an area with a lot of natives.

They get money from the Rez but apparently aren't allowed to drink on it so they come to the area I work in and sit around on the street corners and get shitfaced all day. Seems like alcoholism is a real problem for them. They always want to fight too even though they're all like 120 soaking wet which is pretty funny

Still better than blacks though yeah

> 3000 years behind everything

In weaponry, warfare, & machine politics for sure.

Although they did have self sustaining communities with collective effort.

> stirner_meme.jpeg

I think they're very physically and mentally weak. Very subservient.

Physically because of the aforementioned immunological deficiencies, and they're inability to be proper slaves for the whites. Which is why blacks were brought to the Americas.

Mentally because of their addiction problems. Heck, they were using tobacco, hallucinogens and brews for years before they were contacted.

Sure, they were spiritually superior. But look how far that has taken them.

>Nezhualcoyotle's strain of thought

Speak up, young man. Curious.

Their major religious complexes were comparable to late Summerian developments. Their philosophy (their most advanced field imo) was comparable to early Greek developments. When the Euros got there, they were removing from a systemic, continent-wide collapse.

I love Native American civilizations, but something went seriously wrong at some ancient point and it set them back a long while.

I'm reservation born and raised. Kind of what said. Although I do actually like being a part of my tribe, as fucked up as people are. I love my father and my uncles though. I'm also indigenously religious.

I think they have a rich history that we should all learn more about.

>3000 years behind
North American Indians maybe, but south Americans had elaborate cities and astronomy

I bet you're from Oklahoma. My grandad was from Kansas, and even though he married my full blooded grandma, he always hid the fact that he was like, half Pawnee. I don't know anything about Pawnee culture though, that's not the tribe I'm enrolled in.

I could agree with this
>Mentally and physically inferior
>Spiritually advanced

Sometimes I wonder if a lot of their addiction issues today aren't some psychological issue from being stripped of their identity and who they are. I know that sounds kind of hippy dippy but it's like tryna break a wild horse.

Yeah. I'm thinkingm maybe it was a population density thing. South Americans were packed more tightly together, so ideas exchanged more easily. Still sub-white and chink intelligence, but at least capable of some organization.

Hey I'm from Kansas. I use to live in a punk house and sometimes at shows the kids from the indian university would come and hang. I had a huge crush on one of them.

>Got btfo by their own immune systems.
>beleiving the meme that they died of illnesses

its a shame they dont exist anymore, and their land is being used for some of the biggest evils

U wot m8

> not so fast paco

Fun fact: the "one with nature" thing is something they invented after they were completely and utterly BTFO. It's their "WE WUZ KANGS".

>le weak immune system memes

Educate yourself, niggers

youtube.com/watch?v=JEYh5WACqEk

I don't think it's a meme to believe that disease played a huge roll in the dwindling population numbers in the Americas at the time.

whatever. at least it's a cool thing and not an excuse for them to nig out like blacks do.

I think it's a little of both. My great grandpa, my dad's dad, was alive before English was taught in schools. His first language was our ancestral tongue. As he got older, he stopped doing cultural stuff with our family. He believed the best way forward was to adapt to the new world. He was also an alcoholic, and, as my dad put it, "had his demons." I think about how tough it must have all been for him, having to see his way of life disappear and fade away. My dad and his uncles brought a lot of our traditions back, but still, he wasn't around for a lot of it. If that makes sense

I'm also voting for Trump btw. I'm not a hippie fag that wants reparations or anything, I would rather tribes took care of themselves.

>Noble people
>What is scalping
There's a reason they were called savages

The "inability to be slaves" had more to do with the fact they could escape with relative ease and had a better lay of the land.

Anyway, the basic idea is that Nezhualcoyotle (who had a pretty epic story himself) rejected traditional Aztec ceremonial traditions like human sacrifices, in favor of long periods of fasting and meditation. He also may have been monotheist. Some attempts were made to spread his less bloodthirsty religion, but the Mexica revolted and destroyed the Triple Alliance too soon afterwards for it to gain necessary traction. Much of his poetry was preserved by Spanish friars, however.

I'm not half, but I'm mixed and know some people who are 50/50. My whole area is mixed, and I agree with your observations. But they aren't at all idiots man, just different.

In the west, us in the younger generations regardless of race, maybe except black and Latino kids, were taught not to have pride in ourselves or our past. If I were you, I would hold on to that, even after your grandpa passes. If you have kids, they will be grateful.

Not for the sake of pride, and certainly not anger, its more important than that. Identity and a sense of people is a beautiful thing if you have the right, uncucked perspective.

Lel Haskell?? A few people from my tribe went to play basketball and football there

The Civilized Tribes certainly got their shit together do learned how to play the white man's game. They're constantly fucking the state and Federal Government in court and getting Casino rights have made them super fucking rich.

The uncivilized tribes got left in the dust for the most part.

This desu. Mesoamericas were advanced for their aesthetics and metaphysics, but North Americans were literally Bronze Age Collapse-tier. Sad but true.

>Haven't heard of the torture tree

When I was ten or something, my gradeschool teacher was talking about the natives 'n shieet

teacher was wrapping up, asked class if we had questions about the natives

I asked the teacher if the 'torture tree' was real

She sort of stared at me for a second, before somewhat absentmindedly asking what it was

I tell her it's a story about a tree where the natives would tie european explorers up and gore them alive, with their eyeballs and entrails hanging out; having them walk around the tree with part of their intestines nailed to it

Got half way through the explenation before teacher just panicked and cut me off, it was never brought up again

The teacher refused to look me in the eye from the year on after that point.

I think that's a lie, and if that's what they teach you in your school, here they teach differently so...
Im not 100% sure which one is it, so you should not beleive either of them fully.
I think the deseases played an relatively insignificant role, compared to the genocide of them.

This is about how I feel. I said earlier that I'm indigenously religious, and even if I don't believe it 100%, I will still practice and sing our family songs. There's something very powerful in accepting exactly who you are and what makes you and your bloodline you. I don't know if he's still reading the thread at this point, but don't give it all up after your grandpa dies. Your children deserve to know that there's this whole other part to them that goes back thousands of years.

Yep, did a big research project on the wetlands and the hwy they were planning on (and I believe eventually did) build. So we'd go to their campus and talk to professors and even sat in on a class or two. Everyone was really fucking friendly and I learned a lot.

I'd say not so much physically weak because they didn't want to be slaves. I remember seeing a quote about the Natives looking down on blacks because they allowed themselves to become slaves to whites. That and natives had black slaves too.

based redskin

> mentally & genetically inferior

> migrated furthest from the original location of the conception of homosapien

Here's a Pocahontas

>Haven't heard of the torture tree
___
>Be me
>Be ten or something, in gradeschool
>Socialstudies teacher was talking about the natives 'n shieet
>Teacher was wrapping up, asked class if we had questions about the natives
>I asked the teacher if the 'torture tree' was real
>Teacher sort of stared at me for a second, before somewhat absentmindedly asking what it was
>I tell her it's a story about a tree where the natives would tie european explorers up and gore them alive, with their eyeballs and entrails hanging out; having them walk around the tree with part of their intestines nailed to it
>Got half way through the explenation before teacher just panicked and cut me off
>It was never brought up again
>The teacher refused to look me in the eye from the year on after that point.

>weren't wasteful
They would slaughter entire herds of buffalo just to get meat from a single one. They also overhunted numerous birds to near-extinction.

Their languages are insanely complex. That's kind of fascinating. In a lot of those languages, basically any kind of action gets turned into a verb.

So instead of saying "I chased the snake with my snake-hunting stick and killed it," you'd have one long complicated verb which contains all of that information and would translate literally into English as a verb that looks like "To fast-pursuingly-with-grabbed-stick-follow snake-twistingly-with-stick-jab-snake-stick-turningly-kill-snake".

All one word. All conjugated differently based on the people involved, the animals, the person being told the story, etc.

Only minority I have sympathy for. They had beautiful culture and a great respect for the land. We fucked it up, true shame

so what about abbos then?

This is true. The thing is there just weren't enough Indians to wipe out the population of most things.

I mean, its both, the disease just helped the genocide along and made any realistic resistance attempt futile. The Columbus Exchange is pretty much regarded as true in academia and part of that was the exchange of disease. The natives had no immunity to our diseases because they had never encountered them.

A lot of Native Americans had amazing everyone helps everyone tribes with hundreds of people all living together in large houses. Women were allowed to divorce men, children were taught to question authority and to be critical thinkers, they valued fitness and family bond.

Then Christians came and fucked everything up like they normally do. Read an account by one of the priests saying how "difficult it was to break the will of the indian children" due to their up-bringing.

Of course, the described tribe above wasn't all of them, many tribes were pretty damn savage, but a lot of them were similar and a much better society than what the west brought over.

> scalping

Yea man that was fucked up

That's something else that's mind boggling about them. Most of Europe (along with Iran and India) is all part of a single language family. The Americas had something like 30.

They're better than our natives....

Seriously. Is there any race with uglier women than australian aborigines?

Le blankets with smallpox meme xD

Best to close the reservations and let them all die I'll agree with.

Child raping alcoholics the lot of them.

Abbos are literally not human. That's different.

Whites picked up on it also.
Both settlers and the Natives were pretty damn brutal.
Though they were more primitive I wouldn't call them barbaric.

>Be mix of English and Blackfoot
>Actually member in the federally-recognized tribe
>Blue-eyes, Auburn beard and hair
>Pink nipples
>My grandma smokes cigars and runs a tourist trap
>Family get-togethers are depressing mixes of drunks, meth-heads, and NASCAR fanatics

At least I got that sweet college money

>we should compare tragedies and see who is worse
Why do people think like this

>but a lot of them were similar and a much better society than what the west brought over
that's not how it works. their civilization was inferior and was destroyed. the weaker species go extinct and are replaced by the strong. humans are no different

yeah, but the other user said natives were great because they migrated a pretty long distance. was wondering if that made abbos great too since they also migrated a long distance

God no

Probably because you're a fuckin' weirdo.

This

> mentions scalping

> provide a reasonable rebuttal

Hurr durrr but everyoneee

youtu.be/YWZkwuILn_s

>Louis cuCK

The owners got rich not the tribes most of them only got an employment opportunity

Good thread Anons.

I teach at a Kansas college and have had a few native students come through my program. First several years I taught I never saw any complete a degree and stay more than a year, for a variety of reasons. There's a lot of external pressures.

The last two years I've seen a few natives get through. Smart, able to keep their pride and identity yet still navigate the reality of today. It gives me some high hopes.

>One tribe doing something likely after provocation implicates two while continents of people

Also citation needed

Lot of Kansas in this thread. Makes me proud. Pretty sure Kansas is named after the Kanza (or Kansa) indians aka the people of the wind.

>social sarwinism to gauge the worth of a society

youre right there's nothing to be learned from any society that has fallen to blood thirsty savages. it's no wonder muslims are taking over, it's just darwinism, you should be switching sides

so did the mesopotamians and egyptians thousands of years before Europe had galleons...

Quads of sarcastic ownage

Kek no shit. This isn't 1920. Natives had some interesting philosophy and views. Its absolute retarded to just dismiss all that because they were "inferior"

Agreed. Whilst they were pretty advanced in medical herbs, harvesting crops & mainting a balanced encomoy of free trade, they just couldn't get their diplomacy skills down.

Didn't the Sioux base their entire lifestyle off of War and Buffalo?

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They're fine, the ones that I've met were all bro tier (not in the Sikh meme that idiots here spout way, in the chill, respectable person way). Just rampant alcoholism everywhere. Feels sad, man. Get BTFO for hundreds of years and then end up dying slowly on reservations.

The Civilized Tribes actually give a shit about their community and pour 100s of millions of dollars into their community. These mostly come in the form of schools and rec centers. They also turn po dunk do nothing fuck you towns into something livable with casinos, laser tag and movie theaters. They generate a massive net positive economic impact on their state's.

So no, it's not just employment opportunity, it's also education, which is a sight better than Government run schools.

A perfect example on how more government help fucks you up.

A lesson that no one learns.

Those fuckers were planting legumes to up the nitrogen levels in soil. We never figured that out and stole it from them. They weren't complete savages like blacks. They had critical thinking.

The french taught them to scalp to prove who they killed.

xroads.virginia.edu/~hyper/hns/indians/redman.html

In books he is tall and tawny, muscular, straight and of kingly presence; he has a beaked nose and an eagle eye.

His hair is glossy, and as black as the raven's wing; out of its massed richness springs a sheaf of brilliant feathers; in his ears and nose are silver ornaments; on his arms and wrists and ankles are broad silver bands and bracelets; his buckskin hunting suit is gallantly fringed, and the belt and the moccasins wonderfully flowered with colored beads; and when, rainbowed with his war-paint, he stands at full height, with his crimson blanket wrapped about him, his quiver at his back, his bow and tomahawk projecting upward from his folded arms, and his eagle eye gazing at specks against the far horizon which even the paleface's field-glass could scarcely reach, he is a being to fall down and worship.

His language is intensely figurative. He never speaks of the moon, but always of "the eye of the night;" nor of the wind as the wind, but as "the whisper of the Great Spirit;" and so forth and so on. His power of condensation is marvelous. In some publications he seldom says anything but "Waugh!" and this, with a page of explanation by the author, reveals a whole world of thought and wisdom that before lay concealed in that one little word.

He is noble. He is true and loyal; not even imminent death can shake his peerless faithfulness. His heart is a well-spring of truth, and of generous impulses, and of knightly magnanimity. With him, gratitude is religion; do him a kindness, and at the end of a lifetime he has not forgotten it. Eat of his bread, or offer him yours, and the bond of hospitality is sealed--a bond which is forever inviolable with him.

He loves the dark-eyed daughter of the forest, the dusky maiden of faultless form and rich attire, the pride of the tribe, the all-beautiful. He talks to her in a low voice, at twilight of his deeds on the war-path and in the chase, and of the grand achievements of his ancestors; and she listens with downcast eyes, "while a richer hue mantles her dusky cheek."

Such is the Noble Red Man in print. But out on the plains and in the mountains, not being on dress parade, not being gotten up to see company, he is under no obligation to be other than his natural self, and therefore:

He is little, and scrawny, and black, and dirty; and, judged by even the most charitable of our canons of human excellence, is thoroughly pitiful and contemptible. There is nothing in his eye or his nose that is attractive, and if there is anything in his hair that--however, that is a feature which will not bear too close examination . . . He wears no bracelets on his arms or ankles; his hunting suit is gallantly fringed, but not intentionally; when he does not wear his disgusting rabbit-skin robe, his hunting suit consists wholly of the half of a horse blanket brought over in the Pinta or the Mayflower, and frayed out and fringed by inveterate use. He is not rich enough to possess a belt; he never owned a moccasin or wore a shoe in his life; and truly he is nothing but a poor, filthy, naked scurvy vagabond, whom to exterminate were a charity to the Creator's worthier insects and reptiles which he oppresses.

>Superior to nigs


Have you ever spent a minute with these fucking pieces of shit. The only shame I have as a white was the failed extinction of their kind. My only solace is knowing that while other whites were dying to save niggers my ancestors were killing these savages.

They're nigger-lite.
They wasted a lot, don't believe the bullshit liberals spew.

Still, when contact with the white man has given to the Noble Son of the Forest certain cloudy impressions of civilization, and aspirations after a nobler life, he presently appears in public with one boot on and one shoe--shirtless, and wearing ripped and patched and buttonless pants which he holds up with his left hand--his execrable rabbit-skin robe flowing from his shoulder--an old hoop-skirt on, outside of it--a necklace of battered sardine-boxes and oyster-cans reposing on his bare breast--a venerable flint-lock musket in his right hand--a weather-beaten stove-pipe hat on, canted "gallusly" to starboard, and the lid off and hanging by a thread or two; and when he thus appears, and waits patiently around a saloon till he gets a chance to strike a "swell" attitude before a looking-glass, he is a good, fair, desirable subject for extermination if ever there was one.

There is nothing figurative, or moonshiny, or sentimental about his language. It is very simple and unostentatious, and consists of plain, straightforward lies. His "wisdom" conferred upon an idiot would leave that idiot helpless indeed.

He is ignoble--base and treacherous, and hateful in every way. Not even imminent death can startle him into a spasm of virtue. The ruling trait of all savages is a greedy and consuming selfishness, and in our Noble Red Man it is found in its amplest development. His heart is a cesspool of falsehood, of treachery, and of low and devilish instincts. With him, gratitude is an unknown emotion; and when one does him a kindness, it is safest to keep the face toward him, lest the reward be an arrow in the back.

To accept of a favor from him is to assume a debt which you can never repay to his satisfaction, though you bankrupt yourself trying. To give him a dinner when he is starving, is to precipitate the whole hungry tribe upon your hospitality, for he will go straight and fetch them, men, women, children, and dogs, and these they will huddle patiently around your door, or flatten their noses against your window, day aft er day, gazing beseechingly upon every mouthful you take, and unconsciously swallowing when you swallow! The scum of the earth!

And the Noble Son of the Plains becomes a mighty hunter in the due and proper season. That season is the summer, and the prey that a number of the tribes hunt is crickets and grasshoppers! The warriors, old men, women, and children, spread themselves abroad in the plain and drive the hopping creatures before them into a ring of fire. I could describe the feast that then follows, without missing a detail, if I thought the reader would stand it.

All history and honest observation will show that the Red Man is a skulking coward and a windy braggart, who strikes without warning--usually from an ambush or under cover of night, and nearly always bringing a force of about five or six to one against his enemy; kills helpless women and little children, and massacres th e men in their beds; and then brags about it as long as he lives, and his son and his grandson and great-grandson after him glorify it among the "heroic deeds of their ancestors." A regiment of Fenians will fill the whole world with the noise of it when they are getting ready invade Canada; but when the Red Man declares war, the first intimation his friend the white man whom he supped with at twilight has of it, is when the war-whoop rings in his ears and tomahawk sinks into his brain. . ..

The Noble Red Man seldom goes prating loving foolishness to a splendidly caparisoned blushing maid at twilight. No; he trades a crippled horse, or a damaged musket, or a dog, or a gallon of grasshoppers, and an inefficient old mother for her, and makes her work like an abject slave all the rest of her life to compensate him for the outlay. He never works himself. She builds the habitation, when they use one (it consists in hanging half a dozen rags over the weather side of a sage-brush bush to roost under); gathers and brings home the fuel; takes care of the raw-boned pony when they possess such grandeur; she walks and carries her nursing cubs while he rides. She wears no clothing save the fragrant rabbit-skin robe which her great-grandmother before her wore, and all the "blushing" she does can be removed with soap and a towel, provided it is only four or five weeks old and not caked.

Such is the genuine Noble Aborigine. I did not get him from books, but from personal observation.


-Mark Twain

>encomoy of free trade
Are you memeing?

I feel bad for them that they can't drink without becoming alcoholics. I would be an alcoholic 100 times over if I was NA.

Native Americans never managed to advance past a stone-age society.

But as far as stone-age societies go, yeah, they're better than Africans.

>They are definitely superior to nigs and sandnigs.

Of course they are, they're East-Asians

>Sure, they were spiritually superior
Literally no. Do you think they were the only society to believe that the spirits of their ancestors lived in the wilderness around them? Think back to what most of Europe was like before the Roman invasion into the mainland.

>when your only defense is, "Well at least we aren't niggers."

>I'm not a hippie fag that wants reparations or anything, I would rather tribes took care of themselves.

People don't need subsidies. People need opportunities - to carve out their own little empires.

>levels of whites or Asians
chinks are subhuman stop placing them near equal status with whites

Well that was a twist.

well, didn't see that coming when I started reading.

based Natives

thats how you gotta treat dem bitches

I'm obviously totally white (I think) but I was adopted.My uncle was/is a member of the NAC. When I was in my late teenage years, and drinking too much, he took me to the tipi ceremony, and basically forced me to eat tons of peyote.
Before that night, I was a regular liberal leftist piece of shit. That night, the elders taught me how to be a man. How to see the difference between right and wrong.
I don't think Natives are intrinsically better, or more pure, or more noble, but the ones I started to hang out with were amazing. All veterans, all conservative.
I think what happened to the Indians was bad, but I think the Natives who are really awesome feel that they should be a part of the US, and live right. The bitter ones just start drinking and complaining.
The real strong elders maybe feel bad that the Europeans won, but aren't bitter.
Bad stuff happened, and I feel sorry. But the good Indians accept the reality, and work with the whites.
Watch Navajo cops on youtube.You see the good ones and the bad.
Most good native guys join the military, then the police. The bad ones drink too much. Kinda like the irish or russians.

>to carve out their own little empires.
WE

ncpedia.org/american-indians/before-europeans

This is the white mans future.

You will all deserve it HAHAHAHA, it feels great to be a young minority because I'll get to see white western civilization die.

>Native Americans
>attractive
>based
>superior to anything

They are just as bad as niggers. Just see Central America and Bolivia.

at least we arent spanish rape babies

Few more from here xroads.virginia.edu/~hyper/hns/indians/twain3.html but if you search Mark Twain Native Americans you'll find an abundance of modern day bitching and moaning about how he was a racist towards them.

Admitting that my knowledge is more about historical sandnigs than Injuns, it's worth always remembering the wide disparity in lifestyle and behavior among native american tribes. Apaches and Comaches and such, even just by the accounts of other Indian tribes, were a bunch of rapacious savage niggers who were demons in the guise of human flesh. Shit, the only real name we knew of for the ancient Pueblo people is Anasazi, the name given to them by the Navajo meaning "Ancient enemies [of the Navajo]". And it pisses the Pueblo off because it's the hateful name given to them by someone who was an imperialist conqueror of their ancestors.

It's not as racially charged as calling a nig a kaffir, but the spirit of the term is the same - so imagine if you were some Bantu tribe that has your ancestors and your entire civilization referred to as Kaffirs.

As insane about sacrifice as they were the Mesoamericans and Incans can certainly claim a very high standard of civilization. Espeically going off even the Spanish conquistador's own comments of how awe-inspiring the opulence, fertility and organization of Tenochtitlan.

Kek