If atheists don't believe in morality why shouldn't it be legal to kill them?

I'm serious. Give me one reason why their lives should be legally protected given that they believe in nothing.

Any claim they make otherwise is bullshit. They are a wink and a nudge away from pure nihilism if they don't embrace it already.

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Atheists do believe in morality. They just don't believe it comes from god or any kind of 'holy' book.

so... KYS i guess.

So there's no ultimate reality or objective grounding for their beliefs and they are constantly subject to change.

Sweet.

My subjective belief is that it is morally appropriate to make atheism punishable by capital sentence.

If Theists believe in an afterlife, why should killing their bodies be considered murder? It's just sending them to their god. If anything, murdering theists should be celebrated.

"Wow, you sent that person to god and you were willing to commit a sin, murder, to sacrifice your own soul for their benefit. You are a saint."

From your perspective, if you kill an atheist, you're sending then to hell, which is not a very christian thing to do to someone.

Well it's nobody else's, so enjoy the repurcussions from non-edgelords who disagree with you

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Is this that famed atheist rational """logic""" I keep hearing about? Lay off the kush for the rest of the night, Cheech.

>implying you need to be religious to be moral.
You do understand morality and religion are not synonymous right? Religion possesses morals, but it also tells you things that are immoral. Or rather neutral. It is just something that tells you how to live your life, and isn't meant to be taken how you are going to, or if this way is right. The only justification religion has in the things in supports is its supposed unfalsifiability, or inability to be questioned.

>implying Christians morale compass hasn't changed over history
Catholics besieged Constantinople for being heretics, Spaniards tortured and killed Christian reformists, for quite some time Christians didn't even give a fuck about Sodom (not up until Charlemagne)

If anything religious people act more irrational than the non-religious. The basic premise of the non-religious tends to hinge on a socially libertarian attitude so it's fairly predictable moral values.
Throughout history religious people's moral values have wildly varied and it's completely illogical and irrational.

>Atheism
>without god
Literally says nothing about morality.

If murdering someone that denies the existence of your god is justified, wouldn't that make murdering people of religions that do not believe in Yahweh?

Find a flaw in the logic. Pro tip: you can't.

Theists believe there's an 'afterlife' and this is all just a test. Killing a theist is just getting them out of the test early. And statistically, since all time alive presents a non-zero chance of committing sin, the sooner you kill any given theist, the more likely it is you're saving them from hell.

Steve Harvey please get off Sup Forums.

We should burn alive anybody claiming to follow jesus and blatantly disobeying him, we should torture him prior to the burning if he tries to bullshit his way out of the torture by saying the bible now means a completely fucking differnet thing.

t. Actual believer but not in jesus nor in muhammad.

>y-you are something bad still

Yes, a believer of the one true God whose bible you changed according to jeremiah 8:8 along with many many other paragraphs both in old and new testament.

inb4 he throws shit towards jeremiah 8:8 and forgets that this shit is all over the place in the bible.

Nihilism --> Absurdism.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absurdism

It's ignorant to think atheist don't believe in rules.

>what are last rites

My fucking grandma who lived and died laughing at America's Funniest Home Videos won't even crack a smile at your comeback.

If you want to kill me go for it. I'll be dead so it's not like I'll care.

thanks for joining us tonight bill

>fuck off

Logic is sound

Before anyone tries to call this guy an atheist edge-lord, may I remind you this behavior isn't limited to only atheist, and can even be applied to theist. This is just a man that has given up.

>Find a flaw in the logic

Every person who believes has a mission to do this or that, meaning that murdering them impedes this mission, which may in turn make his rewards in heaven smaller, not a nice move by any means.

If laws were written based on feelings there would be no white people left on the entire planet.

Such a dumb question. Just because religion is a scam doesn't mean atheists don't believe in morality faggot. Here's a good retort. If you believe in god, why don't we kill you and send you to your maker? Don't you want to be closer to your god?

Agnostic by the way, anyone who claims there is or isn't a god is a moron. There just isn't enough evidence to prove either way. Just in the same way in asking how many times has science been wrong? Wasn't there a consensus that the sun revolved around the earth at one point and they imprisoned those that didn't believe?

> people of different belief should be killed

Thanks to people like you we have terrorism.

And if you believe in heaven why don't you die already and hand over all your worldly possession for religion points?

RALLY MAEKZ YEWW THUNK!!2123131313123123

You right

Because the existence of an objective absolute moral authority isn't the same as agreeing to submit to a man-made code of conduct in the interest of preserving the self or society.

Heaven has tiered rewards now?
Sounds like you picked the wrong god, bucko. Should have gone with one who love you.

Is this dude serious?

This is a big IF.

Atheist do not believe in Allah. It does not mean that they have no morality. Their morality is based their own views of good and evil deeds.

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Because I want them to be. I've subjectively decided that they should not be murdered for being atheists.

>This is just a man that has given up.
I haven't given up, I never cared to begin with.

>falling for the Agnostic meme
You're just as degenerate as transsexuals, stand up for what you believe in don't cuck yourself you pathetic scum.

What is modern law?

If god is real, why is Liberalism so popular, why is globalism winning, why is Hillary going to be the next US president, why is George Soros still alive, why is the PC narrative winning, why is US turning non-white, why is Europe getting invaded by mudslimes etc?

Checkmate. God doesn't exist, and if he does he has clearly abandoned us.
Look around you. We're fucked. We're truly fucked.

Those beliefs didn't follow the scientific method, and were largely influenced on what religious texts said. You don't make a claim, and THEN attempt to find evidence for that claim. That is ass-backwards, you find evidence, and when enough is gathered, you follow the scientific method. Science doesnt just get proven wrong, it increasingly becomes more accurate. The science we have today will ONLY become more accurate. There is something called the burden of proof, and since theist have failed to prove their god, due to there being no credible evidence. There isn't a reason to take part in their religious beliefs. The religious were the ones that imprisoned those that inquired.

>Atheism punishable by death

t. Abu hamza al-amriki

I guess in muslim land, that is an acceptable answer. Here in America, it is illegal to attemp to murder me.

The law trumps your beliefs. And, since its legal to defend myself, i will politely state my disapproval of your stance at muzzle velocity. Or the cops could do it for me.

Either would be very entertaining.

>You're just as degenerate as transsexuals, stand up for what you believe in don't cuck yourself you pathetic scum.
Wanna try that without all the buzzwords there Steve Irwin?

>atheism punishable by capital sentence
Nope, i respect freedom of religion is a basic human right

Well , Regardless if they believe in Allah or Jesus or anything , what gives them the right to bash other ppl who believe ??

Well yeah, nihilism is actually the truth of it... so you have to make your own subjective values in life. Morality does not come from religion, but rather it co-ops and perverts morality for it's own ends (political power of the priesthood, spreading the faith, social engineering, etc).

Put it this way... believers will mostly tell you that god is good, right? But is that because he does good according to a standard, or does his actions set that standard? If the former, goodness exists outside of a need for god. If the latter, goodness is changeable and subjective. Therefore you can't logically claim that goodness is both objective and dependent on a god.

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>Heaven has tiered rewards now?

Why do you speak about things you don't know about?

Theists don't believe in any consistent form of morality since it is dependent on their God's arbitrary whims. How do you know God doesn't approve of certain genocides?

Shilling for cancerous ideologies, whilst buzzwording the auspol meme; congratulations retard, go for a walk or something your veins are aching for relief.

truly you are a great advocator of morality

also very rational. Good job.

Except the
3 posts by my ID, but, you know, whatever, who's counting.

Sorry, hard to keep track of what's canon and what's fanon in religion.

Why do YOU speak about things you don't know about? All claims of any sort of afterlife are pure camelshit and deep down you know it.

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How about agnosticism?

because atheism is not synonymous with Anarchism and the long dick of the law can and does fuck people without regards to their religious beliefs

What ever happened to DONT TREAD ON ME? Or does that only count for christian hick bullshit?

Well if heavens real we should kill all believers so they can live in eternal paradise right? The afterlife will be better than life itself?

I thought he was reasonable then I Saw his twitter

the god meme again... I bet you still think santa claus is real too. thats cute.

OP tried to form an argument.
He failed.
Nihilism is just a phase and not the end game of philosophy.
If someone gets stuck in Nihilism then they failed.

And your veins are aching from the poison from a rattle snake and what ever rape spider pops up in your shack mate.

Same here, religion should be free to decide to every human being.

If i want to believe that every animal has littlre soul and should not be tortured then i should allowed to do so.
If I want to believe that invading other countries and committing atrocities there is wrong then I should able to do so.

On my first year of college I watched Bill Maher's Religulous. Dunno, I started hanging out with these "free time conspiracy theory" students. So we discussed the movie and theorized on other topics.

We thought we were hip.

I feel kind lame now.

At the same time, none of them do shit now and they still eat liberal crap.

I have a nicely paid office job and despite the fact I have nothing to do with the US, I like to talk about Trump in a positive manor. People hate me for this.

But, I digress... my question being, is Bill Maher a commie cuck?

And how much on a scale from 1 to Stalin?

He was born and raised in a religious household, typical Jew mother Catholic father so prevalent in Holy Wood and is extremely butthurt about life. Toxic is a word usually used to describe his personality. You would have been better off watching Letterman if assholes entertain you.

Philosophy is a meme. Sorry you fell for it. It's completely pointless and nothing in its entire history requires any further rebuttal -- even on its own terms -- outside of "I disagree".

Nice try though, kid.

Agnosticism is just a phase former religious go through, if they truly would question the existence of god, they wouldn't have some sort of belief in it. No one is agnostic about leprechauns, or unicornns, or fucking Santa Claus. Transitioning from believing in something your entire life, to outright rejecting it isn't something someone will go through overnight. This is something that many religious slowly accept, that their religion is a sham. Argument over religion, and anti-religion post don't automatically make someone decide, but it aids along in the process.

I don't have an answer for you, but I am interested in hearing more of you stories. Please enlighten me.

>If atheists don't believe in morality

Wrong

Someone can lack a belief in a deity but still think or agree with one religions ethics

So the universes have creators you believe? Where are the facts, that they did not always existed?

It seems like you don't understand how agnosticism works, pal. Ya see jimbo, being an agnostic means that yu believe that all religions are phony, but you can't disprove any of them, or disprove the fact that there might be a higher power. Isn't that quickity-quacking crazy!?

And everything else from there on is just pure causality chain of univeres inner workings?

>equating religion with morality

Ayy lmao look it's the morally superior Christians talking about genocide to people who disagree with them again.

Also Atheists don't believe in nothing. Atheist is a label put on them for having Agnostic beliefs. This is how most of my conversations go. "So you don't believe in god?" "No I just don't really believe any religion over another." "So you're an Atheist then." "..."

We have not yet learned how time works in this universe. We have no proof. Searching for proof is one fundamental aspects of scientific method.

What

You are a fucking retard.
Please kill yourself so you cannot breed.

Because, like humanity is still kinda good so maybe we ensure it keeps going, so yeah?

Those ethics aren't claimed solely to one religion. The ancient romans outlawed rape, and the chinese murder long before Christianity existed. What is moral is the result of humans evolving in groups. Learned behaviors are hereditary, not things like riding a bike, but things inherited through species. How to interact with people, you don't learn to communitcate, you just get better or worse at it. Humans have a sense of what is right and what is wrong, why do you think some people struggle to kill things that are helpless? It isn't because some god told them to feel that way. These external stimuli are hereditary. When I mean helpless, I don't mean things like spiders, or cockroaches, as we have an inherited fear of things that are "creepycrawly," as fear is inherited too.

I think you have a valid point, OP.
However most religions are cucked in the way that they propose atheists can still be convinced to believe and can be saved. So while game theory may suggest it's best to kill them, religion would ask you not to.

YEH!

Well according to Jesus, he without sin gets to cast the first stone, so Skynet AI should be created to apply capital punishment to those disobeying the Lord's will, oh wait, Roko's Basilisk is already using the coincidences of the universe to do that for itself.

And scientific method is the base of modern sience. Theory must be confirmed by proof. Otherwise is it based on beliefs and this does get us off the planet.

Because by killing us you fully admit that you've learned no morals from the religion you're so quick to defend that, without it, you learn no morals.

Something about
>m-muh ethics

so far everyone i know and has a statement on trump, supports him

-- does NOT get us off the planet.

I do not need to disprove that metaphysical deities do not exist, because it is the responsibility of the one who made the claim. Burden of proof. There is no reason to believe in gods, because the ones that claim the existence fail to provide evidence. The lack of proof, is not proof. It does not work with the inverse, because no one would say there aren't any gods, if no one claimed any gods existed. The lack of theist providing evidence, does not contradict their beliefs, but it doesn't offer enough reason to take part in their beliefs.

You're an idiot.

You realize law is an extension of metaphysics and ethics?
That all natural sciences come from philosophy?
That a Ph.D is a doctorate of philosophy, and is named such, because you have proved you are able to grasp concepts in the field, and build logically sound arguments to contribute new ideas to the field?

I bet your some worthless CS major that nearly failed calculus, and says "STEM degrees are the only real major."

The "Have to be religious to have morals" meme

Wew

Just because I don't believe in any particular religion doesn't mean I'm a bad person.
I like to help people because I feel good when I make someone feel better.
I don't do fucked up shit because I don't want others to feel like shit, it's that simple.

So how about you take off your crusader helmet and stop larping.

And we must get off the planet otherwise we die here. With humanity (or its legacy). We get burned in suns corona in future otherwise if not die off because of some HAPPENING.

There is no proof that someone will save us so we ourselves must do it.

Does other people having different opinions anger you so much that you would want to kill them? You sure you're not a mudslime?

>because I don't want others to feel like shit
Courtesy of your christian education asa young boy

>If atheists don't believe in morality
Nice bullshit premise. Hope you're excited for 10th grade!

Never did I argue against that, my point was that those that are agnostics, most likely were former Christians, also your post doesn't contradict my argument.

>t-there is no evidence
>s-sky fairy

uh-huh

>be me
>be born
>start growing up
>inmediately I notice everybody seems to hate me a lot for no good reason
>Keep growing up as an atheist because "there was no evidence"
>One day finally do see evidence of God
>See evidence too that most people are actually children of satan
>See evidence that the laws of the bible and shit were changed
>convert
>still haven't said anything to anybody
>everybody breaks every tie with me before I even say a thing

Surely none of you were demons all along, m8s

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It is simply not worth it to argue faith with a faggot you find on the street, internet or whatever because he is going to be 99,999999999999% of times a child of satan.

Nigger I had a secular education and didn't hear about religion until some cunt told me I was going to hell when I was like 7 because I wasn't a catholic.

Who's Morality?

Atheism=communism at best, degeneracy a la tumblr at worst
Not a big deal, some less commies infesting the planet

this desu

>we need to make up fairytales because we can't accept our ultimate fate.