Cruz said he wouldn't endorse Trump 3 months ago

businessinsider.com/donald-trump-ted-cruz-john-kasich-pledge-2016-3

Where where you when Trumpfags got BTFO on their "Cruz lied about endorsing" meme?

Other urls found in this thread:

realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/03/03/all_four_candidates_pledge_to_support_gop_nominee.html
youtube.com/watch?v=Ty1eETVIFMs
cnn.com/2015/09/03/politics/donald-trump-2016-rnc-pledge-meeting/
twitter.com/NSFWRedditImage

They're just butthurt anyone would dare speak against their god. All he said was vote your conscience, why would that ever be a bad thing?

He still lied.

Cruz signed the pledge. Him saying later that he's not going to endorse Trump doesn't nullify that.

Shit tier b8.

sage

Yes it does. The pledge is not binding. It is why Trump eventually signed it, because he knew it did not actually matter.

It shows how much he can be respected though.

You don't. Break. Promises.

Tell that to Trump. He broke 3 marriage vows after all.

I'm sorry, but which candidate was it that bragged about "always keeping his word like a true Texan?" Which candidate got high off his own self-righteousness at every single debate? Which candidate couldn't stop talking about how much of a true trustworthy conservative he was at every opportunity?

realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/03/03/all_four_candidates_pledge_to_support_gop_nominee.html

The difference is that Trump didn't take time to preach about how honest he was at every opportunity. This is the stuff Cruz ran on - keeping your word. In the end, he proved that he really was Lyin' Ted.

okay, I'll bit the bait. Who cares about the pledge, right? Especially when he reigned on it months ago. Fine.

But what you're all ignoring is this looks like a child throwing a tantrum to anyone who isn't a texan republican. He lost and he's reacting sans dignity.

He made the speech all about himself and it was obvious that the speech was done in such a way that it would cover his ass both ways in 2020.

Why, during the convention with an average of almost 10 minutes per speech, was his nearly 23 minutes?

Why did his camp come out in the last few hours to say that "Trump heard it and approved of it! So pay attention to that tid-bit!" It is desperate back-pedalling, after their guy took donald's supplied rope and threw himself off the building with it around his neck.

This was an embarrassment for the establishment and the donors. Even if there's enough grassroots to support his ticket in 2020 (doubtful as the trump/bernie anger will die down by then) the establishment will throw their weight against him.

He showed himself dishonest tonight and committed political seppuku on stage.

>The difference is that Trump didn't take time to preach about how honest he was at every opportunity.
Did we follow the same campaign? He was constantly saying "I'm the most honest".

Every candidate says the basic "I'm honest and trustworthy, you can rely on me for sure" bit. Cruz designed his campaign around it - TrusTed - remember? Watch the video and see the difference for yourself.

Ok, so what you're saying is that when Trump does it then it is ok.

hi shill! care to respond?

He still looked like an idiot on that stage getting booed for making it about him. And that's how it will be remembered

No, because your points are retarded and not worth responding to.

No, it's not okay. But Ted Cruz is immeasurably the bigger hypocrite. Donald doesn't pretend to be a saint. Cruz does.

The supreme court is going to be etched in rock for another 20 years and Cruz couldn't resist hedging his bets and talking himself up on the national stage - just in case for 2020. He doesn't care about principles, he cares about his political career, and he made that abundantly clear today.

Please come home, Ben. We know it's you.

Newt's teleprompter.

>as the trump/bernie anger will die down by then
Do you really believe that? Do you think Trump's candidacy is nothing but his personality? Do you think there are not systemic global forces at work that are contributing to the chaos we're seeing this year?

This isn't going to go away whether Trump is elected or defeated. If he's defeated, expect it to be a lot worse by 2020, but people won't expect change to come through the electoral process at that point.

Truly a fucking leaf with no understanding of the American mindset

LIVE ON AIR he pledges to endorse


CUT YOURSELF RIGHT NOW YOU CUNT.


youtube.com/watch?v=Ty1eETVIFMs

youtube.com/watch?v=Ty1eETVIFMs

youtube.com/watch?v=Ty1eETVIFMs

>not an arguement

at least you gave up early.

Read the article, it is from a later date.

Cruz fucked another married whore, you twat.

Article has no proof attached to it. Live on air is proof. You can kill yourself now, cunt.

Get fucked. You have been abused and disgraced infront of fucking everyone and spit out like the little whore you are.

NEXT FUCKING ONE.

oh, so you're saying lyin' ted cruz is a...wait for it...lyin ted is an actual LIAR?

No, no he did not. That is a meme Trumpfags made up to try to drag Cruz's name through the dirt because Trump's name as already in there.

Well for example, why 23 instead of 10, because he was the guy to come second. Pretty straight forward.

No, I am saying he changed his mind and gave plenty of time for people to know he had, and he gave reasons for why.

Go get raped by Ahmed and stop freaking out.

if trump loses, there probably won't be a recognisable 2020 scenario that we imagine, desu.

Truly you lack the perspective that an outside observer has on your politics.

>spent most of my life going to/from usa
>hang out with blue collar americans for sports/work/fun
>follow everything usa since '02

being canadian doesn't make me unaware of your mindset. It is your short-sightedness that refuses to acknowledge that the anger we see in political form will not exist in this way again for probably a generation.

Truly, anger might still drive people. But in 4 years there is no telling what form it will manifest itself, except we can safely assume populism, if appropriate, will not be viewed as "reactionary" as it is today.

I agree though, greater forces are at work.

>he changed his mind

Yeah, nice way of saying that lyin ted lived up to his nickname and LIED about the pledge he signed to support the Republican nominee.

>speech he gave to trump & co was 9ish minutes
>everyones speech is 9ish minutes
>he ad-libs half of it
>newt's teleprompter tells us they were planning on a different speech

next?

The best shills are the ones who can at least put together an argument.

I hate you cunts who only go for the lowest hanging fruit.

Irrelevant, he still lied about supporting Donald Trump.

What was thought here was that he came to his senses and was going to pledge his support. Instead he only promoted himself. He deserves everything thats coming to him.

The pledge is not binding. Trump also walked it back, can guarantee if Trump had lost he wouldn't have endorsed.

>speech he gave to trump & co was 9ish minutes
Not true. Trump confirmed it himself Unless you think Trump is lying to cover up for Ted of course.

>The pledge is not binding

Yes, you word means nothing to a lying politician like Ted Cruz

He stopped responding to my posts once I backed him into a corner, too.

I'll use your words against you:

So you're saying it's okay when Cruz does it?

>So you're saying it's okay when Cruz does it?
Changes his mind? Yes. I would have been fine with Trump not endorsing if Cruz had won as well. Harsh primaries do that.

Ted Cruz campaigns on : vote for the constitutionalist

Gives a speech intending to slight Trump.

Trump can now say he allowed Cruz to exercise his constitutional rights even when he didn't like it.

12D Rubix Cruz

>No, I am saying he changed his mind and gave plenty of time for people to know he had, and he gave reasons for why.

youre missing the point. the last few weeks, establishment, trump camp, ryan, etc have been harking on "unity", who will "unify" our party?, etc.

Even if he declared it, Cruz did not bend the knee. That might appear noble to some, but it looks generally foolish to everyone who is paying attention. By not saying verbatim "I endorse Donald J Trump" he is, in fact, not endorsing him.

It's not Trump that appears slighted, its the people who voted for him. It makes Cruz look like he's slighting the unity of the party platform.

Eating crow is awful, but flaunting your unwillingness to submit is betrayal in their eyes.

>you can unmake a pledge by simply saying I don't wanna do that anymore
Wish that would work with credit card agreements.

>The pledge is not binding.

Again, irrelevant. It was asked if he would support Donald Trump, and he said Yes, and he didn't. His yes statement was a lie, and again, it's completely irrelevant if it was binding or not.

What world do you live in where something isn't a lie unless it was binding?

You have to be understanding with trumpfags today.

First of all Milo got banned from twitter. For the first time in human history, somehow all the planets had aligned and someone had managed to get young voters to care about the Republican party. And now he's gone. It might never happen again.

Secondly, they were expecting Cruz to be a good goy and endorse Trump, so that they count on the evangelicals. But Cruz didn't give a fuck.

It's a tough night.

>Even if he declared it, Cruz did not bend the knee.
Why should he?

Trump:
>Insulted his wife
>Said his Dad murdered a President
>Accused Cruz of adultery
>Tried to brand him as something he is not

You should actually have a look at the pledges, they are not legally bound contracts.

>It was asked if he would support Donald Trump, and he said Yes, and he didn't.
He wasn't asked that to come to the convention.

Trump did not confirm the speech's long length, and it was obviously not in the program, as fox 10 cameras panned to other areas of the convention.

Think about what this does to Cruz: I've searched high and low for a news article to depict this in ANY positive light. All I can find is cancerous vox reflecting on how it was "humiliating".

I'm not sure if the guy I'm defending gets dumped on by everyone left and right except for hillary's twitter and vox.

>Said his Dad murdered a President
>Accused Cruz of adultery

Factually false.

Yes, they are false. However Trump acted like those things were true.

>muh binding agreement
All that means is Ted can't get sued for being a liar. It doesn't change the fact that you don't get to change your mind after making a promise.

cnn.com/2015/09/03/politics/donald-trump-2016-rnc-pledge-meeting/

So like Trump changed his mind on the pledge?

that's not the point and you know it.

You bend the knee or forget about coming back to eat at the trough.

I will LITERALLY concede every bad thing you could come up with about Trump, but that doesn't change the fact that it appears to many (most) Republicans (and others) that this was a slight not just to Trump, but to the voters and the call for unity within the party.

He's not acting like a brave rebel, his actions appear like a ill-fated political insurgency.

>He broke 3 marriage vows after all
>3

occupy democrats please go and stay go

>You bend the knee or forget about coming back to eat at the trough.
No, you can come to a convention if you want to, especially as the second place finisher. A lot of others just decided to skip it. Ted decided not to.

>He's not acting like a brave rebel, his actions appear like a ill-fated political insurgency.
Maybe to you.

Dubs, praise kek

So he revealed his lying ways three months ago, what's the difference?

Trump agreed to the pledge with the added terms "as long as I'm treated fairly". He threatened to withdraw from the pledge because he was not being treated fairly by the party (see: Colorado).

>Get branded as Lyin' Ted
>Make a promise
>Prove your nickname right by breaking your promise

How is the exact date of him breaking his promise matter?

And Cruz said the same thing, "I will refuse to endorse if Trump does not stop insulting my family", Trump kept insulting his family. He earned the no endorsement.

>Cruz goes on stage and in a sleazy passive aggressive way tells people to vote for Hillary.
How is he a true conservative again?

Played it out like a god.

Cruz didn't add shit when making the pledge, retard. He said that long afterwards.

He said vote with your conscience. Why do Trump supporters think this means Hillary? It could mean anything. Unless your conscience is secretly telling you not to vote Trump.

3 months before this event. Plenty of time for Trump to stop.

Trump insulted his family once in response to an ad that insulted his wife.

Additionally, this claim of Cruz's comes from long after he took the pledge. Back when Cruz took the pledge he kept talking about how he admired Trump to avoid being hit by him, and then the rat turned on him out of desperation. And you're regurgitating many of the obscene number of lies that are the reason why he's called Lyin Ted.

>Trump insulted his family once in response to an ad that insulted his wife.
What?

He did it multiple times, for instance attacking his wife, saying his Dad murdered JFK etc.

You can't piss on a party, its leader, voters, donors and walk away with an exit strategy. He knew the convention was based around party "unity" but chose not to include an endorsement for trump in his speech, knowing the mayhem it would cause.

best case he was hoping he'd get grassroots approval and some nods of approval, + lib media celebrating his slight to donald. worst case is what's happening now/tomorrow.

you're delusional if you don't believe this ends his presidential aspirations. Cruz will end his career as the speaker for state senate in the next decade.

>He said he'd break the pledge 3 months ago so it's OK

A vote against Trump is a vote for Hillary. You can't be that retarded to think anyone else would win, right? So don't pretend Lying Ted isn't trying to get Killary in there like the good little establishment cocksucker he is.

Trump said he would break it in 2015, is that ok for you?

I think the best thing would be to have a third party win a swing state, then the house can vote for who they want to be President. Pretty remote odds but would be worth it.

> implying trump might be defeated

lmao, trump is going to win by a landslide, are trolls getting to you?

ignore shill posts

No, best case is Ted Cruz will now dominate the media for the next week, until the DNC, get a ton of expensive interviews on major networks, and bash Donald Trump so hard he loses the election and Ted Cruz takes the insurgency in 2020. That's his plan.

Yes, it was before he made the pledge, thus it changed the meaning of his pledge. How is this so hard for you to grasp? The order of events matters.

Well it was before Trump revealed what he was, so it makes sense to alter as time goes on.

>saying his dad murdered JFK
Considering that the attack on Cruz's wife was just in response to the attack on his own, I suppose we can say this is one uncalled for attack. Got any more? Any from past the Indiana primary?

>cnn bashes him
>msnbc bashes him
>fox bashes him

1 dead cop/black and your plan is over. are you willing to wager nothing will reset the news cycle before dnc?

>WAAAHH WAAAHH WAAAHH
>My shitty lying candidate didn't win so I hope democracy is taken from the people so a bunch of establishment assholes can pick the leader for us.

He should have thought of that before he made the pledge.

They won't care, they'll just call back Ted Cruz. Hell, they might even call him during the DNC to get his response to whatever they say there and not let Trump call in to their programs while it's going on.

They're going to starve Trump of the media oxygen.

If I say "I promise to paint your house tomorrow" and I don't do it, it isn't binding, but I still lied

Made me reply/10

lack of consideration is the stupidest fucking rule of law in the universe.

If you would have received a crumpled up poo-dollar, you would be obligated by law to do it.

Except there is evidence stating just the opposite.

#LoseCruz

>signed the pledge
>backtracked

>expecting lyin ted not to lie

Thats why we call him lyin ted, he lies.

the leaf's right though
>even a blind squirrel finds a nut