Be american

>be american
>can't use the internet properly anymore

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id ont get it

I really don't think this is what the internet needed.

American internet service providers can now censor whatever they want and demand that you pay extra for access to specific websites or services. Sort of like if the power company could suddenly decide if to charge you extra if you want to use a dish washer.

Oh right, the net neutrality thing, pretty sad tβh

Sup Forums is actually fucking defending this.

Wait, it happened?

The price of freedoms:DDDD

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i pray u guys that this will never happen in the EU

The EU actually has some history of standing up to big telcom/tech companies and defending net neutrality

>yfw Shartians will still think they aren't more of a police state than anywhere else on earth.

Net neutrality has never actually existed. The Internet you grew up with didn't have it either.

ffs

>id love to pay more taxes and have my guns taken to save 15 dollars a month on internet and then be jailed for saying mean things about muslims in comment sections

Why? I don't ged it.

Europe adopts stupid shit from anglos with a couple year delay, we're fucked.

>cowardly Yuropoors taking advantage of the fact that nobody can see what shithole they're from on Sup Forums

Because Trump is godking, leftie tears, etc.

Very possibly one of the dumbest posts I've seen ina whiule.
Your country is a fucking dystopian shithole.

If you think the EU won't try to curbstomp Internet freedom, you're even stupider than you look. And Britain may not be part of the EU anymore, but they have a terrible history of nanny state-ism.

the board is populated by literal 70 year old neoconservative boomers, what is there not to get

no state is more nanny state than the US

Feels good not living in California. :^)

Ironically, this will give Comcast (parent of MSNBC) and Time-Warner (parent of CNN) legal right to block access to right wing forums and news sites. This is the best thing to happen to the producers of the fake news they hate.

Protip: ISPs have always had the right to restrict bandwidth and block access to any website for as long as the Internet has existed

They have not, hence why torrent sites haven't been blocked by name, even if they went by the same or similar name after the host was physically taken down. This is just Sup Forumstard and ISPshill damage control.

>go to Sup Forumsto see shitstorm
>everyone against net neurality saying everyone that supports the are shills that want handouts
What kind of logic are they following? what the fuck?

>haha torrenting is so outdated and lame, am I right fellow kids? #NetflixandChill
Holy hell, an actual Comcast shill in the wild.

Muh free market I guess? Who knows, it's pol after all.

Sup Forums exists to rationalize whatever Trump does. If he were to stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and invite a burly black bull to fuck Melania in public, all of them would buy lifetime subscriptions to blacked.com.

Does anyone still even use torrents anymore? I haven't in years and I recall that they were slow as molasses. Admittedly I had dial-up back then which probably had something to do with it.

I pick the one with separation of powers, democratic oversight and a basic set of regulations, thanks.

Torrents require people to be charitable enough to seed them. Most people just download and don't bother seeding them so they become slow as shit.

NN isn't a zero sum game; either you're giving companies or the government the right to restrict your Internet access. So pick your poison. And also, most politicians are lawyers and highly ignorant of STEM subjects (not to mention extremely corrupt) so while you can draft a NN bill all you want, it will still inevitably end up being done by the likes of Nancy Pelosi.

It wasn't an issue until Obama came up with some NN proposal in 2015, but I have the vague suspicion that it was not out of good intention, but as an attempt to buy Millenial/hipster votes.

Man, I'd love to be in that timeline

Kek, do some research and learn about all the times the ISPs tried to screw consumers and the FCC had to slap them down. Just because you didn't hear about it doesn't mean it wasn't an issue before NN.

>I have the vague suspicion
ah yes, feels-over-reals

>either you're giving companies or the government the right to restrict your Internet access.
In situations like these I think the best choice depends on which country you live in. For example I understand why Americans don't want their government to have it, while in Norway I want my small and transparent government that we Norwegian can vote on to get it rather than large, international private companies. I feel our government would be easier for us to handle.

What restriction does mandating that individual ISPs not discriminate between content on the web place on the average citizen's access to resources on the internet?
>most politicians are lawyers and highly ignorant of STEM subjects
The only entities against NN are those who misunderstand the concept entirely, old people who think it's like Obamacare because Ted Cruz told them so, and ISP shills, largely automated. This is ignorance, but ignorance that will result in restriction of access in the name of profit.
>while you can draft a NN bill all you want
No need to draft anything further, simply preserve the existing provisions that protect uniform treatment of content
It was an issue prior to anything in 2015, see the Cruz comment nonsensically comparing it to something widely unpopular among his elderly constituents in an effort to serve his ISP donors.

>using a screencap from Reddit

What makes you think T-W can't lobby the government to block access to sites that compete with CNN?

>I have no argument

>In situations like these I think the best choice depends on which country you live in. For example I understand why Americans don't want their government to have it, while in Norway I want my small and transparent government that we Norwegian can vote on to get it rather than large, international private companies. I feel our government would be easier for us to handle.
This is the only reasonable non-meme, non-Reddit reply in here.

>Reddit likes it so I hate it

Cannot WAIT for a Burger-free Sup Forums

You may as well use a Sup Forums screencap; it would be worth as much.

Why can't the government take down news sites that compete with CNN? The First Amendment.
Why can't ISPs individually block access to sites that compete with their interests? NN.
Guess which is easier to get rid of.

Would you have preferred he read it underneath a McDonald’s grease trap, you fat sack of shit?

>Why can't the government take down news sites that compete with CNN? The First Amendment.
Once upon a time, the FCC used to regulate content on network TV. For example, it used to be required that all children's programming have educational content and avoid violent/slapstick imagery. This was in spite of the First Amendment, so don't kid yourself into thinking it hasn't been circumvented before.

Technically this is true, but it doesn't matter because people believe we've always had NN and if people unequivocally believe something, it becomes the "truth". In North Korea, they think Kim Jong Un was born under a rainbow on Mt. Paektu. This is silly of course, but what matters is merely that people believe it.

When you fight monsters, be careful not to become one yourself. When you gaze into the abyss, it gazes back.

Feels great to live in a place where the Internet is recognized as vital part of infrastructure.

American car manufacturers ruined public transport and now American telcom corporations will ruin the Internet.

>American car manufacturers ruined public transport
Ah yes, it's the strange Yuropoor fixation on Americans' transportation habits at work again.

That involves regulation of television and radio broadcasts that can be accessed by any receiver. These regulations did not and do not impact content shown on cable systems, published in books, or shown in private movie theatres. The Three Stooges was not banned and Tom & Jerry was not censored. These regulations have never applied to the internet, either, and comparing them to taking down a news site competing with CNN or MSNBC is comparing apples to oranges.

It's ridiculous to me how burgers can justify letting a private monopoly have full control of a utility.

>If you use more water, your bill is higher.

>If you use more data, your bill is higher

Remind me why this is wrong again?

Why is America so hell bent on destroying the internet? Reign in your fucking government you mart-sharting walkers!

because water is a finite source you cum inhaler

There are many internet providers, retard.

What's your point exactly? It's a very prominent past example that is very similar to what's going on now. It's a valid comparison.

not in rural bumfuckville

Yea, by literally cents for every ten thousand liter lmao

This isn't a big deal, most countries don't have net neutrality legislation. Blows my mind that people are acting like the world is ending.

My ISP doesn't own any media outlets, doubt I'll have to worry about that. Might suck for Comcast customers though.

So is data.

ok I'm not going to bite

Corporations won again.

This is america.

Thank you for admitting I'm right.

They are large parts of the US where effective monopolies exist on the local level. You probably criticize Obamacare for the same reason.

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Their servers can only handle their customers using so much data at a time. Some fat nerd downloading 1000 gbs of hentai tentacle porn should pay more.

>actually defending it

How fucking cucked can somebody be? And this is coming from me lmao

Countries where ISPs block VoIP apps because they are competing with their phone plans, haha.

>They are large parts of the US where effective monopolies exist on the local level.

That's true for electric and water companies too. Should the government nationalize these industries?

Not an argument.

Why do people who are against this not use reason and logic?

I'm sorry but that's crazy that burgers are really defending this shit.

You're really deep into the corporate brainwash.

>I chose to ignore all the posts that explains why it's wrong

pathetic, this is either bait or you're plain retarded

Not directly related, but I have long felt that some kind of antitrust action should be taken against major media outlets like T-W and Disney. They were allowed to form conglomerates with the Telecommunications Act of 1997, which was signed into law by a president who was not a Republican. :^)

In particular, I think it's necessary as well to do something against Disney's attempts to finagle with copyright laws, which again happened in the 90s under the reign of the same (non-Republican) president who signed the Telecommunications Act of 1997.

The EU has enshrined net neutrality laws that are overwriting any national law.

That actually has been the status quo so far and it hasn't stopped ISPs from making billions you mental midget. You do realize that that's not the main problem with net neutrality being compromised, right?
>your friendly neighborhood ISP blocks your access to facebook, twitter, instagram, whatsapp, snapchat, telegram
>"Unlock the Social Package for just $19.99 a month!"

>use more of something
>have to pay more

>REEEEEEEE YOU'RE JUST BRAINWASHED REEEEEEEEE BAIT PATHETIC KEK

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>That's true for electric and water companies too. Should the government nationalize these industries?

I heard that lead tastes pretty sweet.

>Why do people who are against this not use reason and logic?

Reason and logic do not apply to Sup Forums and Sup Forums threads. Out of almost 80 posts in here, maybe 10-12 had even semi-reasonable, non-meme replies in them.

Please we need to make sure some Americaboo corrupted euro technocrat won't change that.

>>your friendly neighborhood ISP blocks your access to facebook, twitter, instagram, whatsapp, snapchat, telegram
>>"Unlock the Social Package for just $19.99 a month!"

Yeah a company that did that certainly wouldn't lose all their customers :)

This is about as retarded as saying

>WHAT IF THE WATER COMPANIES MAKE YOU HAVE SEX WITH THE CEO IN EXCHANGE FOR WATER? WITHOUT A LAW AGAINST THIS IT COULD HAPPEN.............

Retard

wads habbening here? ""net neutrality""??

It's not true net neutrality when shit like this exists
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Then again, you could have state-controlled Internet like China where all undesirable political subjects are blocked. I'm not sure that that's an improvement.

Companies are allowed to charge you more if you use more data.

Don't listen to retards who say now they are allowed to block websites, they always had that ability. My workplace already blocks Sup Forums for "pornographic content".

This, frankly.

How would this affect steam downloads and torrents?

>My workplace already blocks Sup Forums for "pornographic content"

That's your workplace blocking it you fucking retard not the ISP.

No ISP would block Facejew and Twitter because Mark Zuckerberg is too fucking powerful to stop and the userbase is too huge.

Nice strawman.
>It has to be one extreme or the other.
retard
I don't get what kind of mental gymnastics you have to go through to make yourself believe a workplace itself installing software that blocks access to non-work related sites vs an ISP blocking access to a site for someone sitting in their house.

>company LAN
>ISP
hopefully the repeal allows ISPs to impose an IQ test to filter brainlets like you

>Companies are allowed to charge you more if you use more data
I know that. Make sure to use AdBlock at all times because a lot of sites have embedded videos and advertisements that all start playing at once which can jack up your bandwidth usage and your ISP will charge you for it.

Unless it's one of those Jew websites that won't let you on it unless you disable AdBlock.

You wouldn't be able to watch gaming streams on youtube let alone download them without buying additional packages.

hmm, this seems like it will be hard to defend against europoors... How should we go about this, countrymen?

yeah that's right, just go over to another ISP, oh wait you can't because there aren't any because comcast and co. run a fucking monopoly