Donald Trump to ABANDON NATO allies

Can anyone explain to me why Americans are such back stabbing fraudsters?

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pay up, you fucking freeloaders

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Fuck off leaf.

This? You want our weapons, give us your shekels.

NATO is just a kike tool to poke Russia and destablisie the middle east. Or to save Mudslimes in Eastern Europe. Fuck em.

>part of the NATO agreement is that every member has to spend 2% or more of their GDP on their military
>no one but America, Britain and Poland do
>hurr durr why is Trump such a meanie head
prune yourself, leaf

Disbanding NATO is stupid; however, what's wrong with the premise of making Western Europe step the fuck up and handle the basket-case known as Russia?

Besides, Arabs going full snackbar is more of a security threat at this point than Russians pretending their Ivan the terrible.

Greece also pays their 4% so do the roaches

McCarthy era demonisation of Russia finally ending Amerexit and Brexit 2.0 soon

>asking an organization that is US-led and basically serves US interests to pay the US
>asking for money when one NATO member is still occupying another member

hillary when

I wonder how many euro/Canada cucks will gloat about their amazing private social welfare system once they are on the hook for their defense spending?

>I don't want to take responsibility.
>I complain about US interventions, and then complain when they don't want to intervene

People who don't pay shouldn't be protected. How is this controversial?

>pick up the defense bill for all the NATO countries

>we're the back stabbers

kek

>back stabbing fraudsters?

The US is just setting the stage for the return of Prussia

That can't happen if we keep protecting all of Europe

I doubt he really knows what NATO does. He really doesn't know shit about actual government workings, foreign or domestic.

This will become obvious during the debates. You can only shout "BUILD THAT WALL" so many times before someone forces you to actually answer a question, and he can't.

What is even the point of NATO anymore? Do you know the Russians almost joined NATO shortly after the Soviet Union collapsed? If we almost got the country we formed the allowance to fight against to join why do we need it anymore?

Why would we risk a nuclear exchange to protect a bunch of bankrupt Muslims?

Can't blame him. European governments are literally welfare leeching niggers when it comes to defence spending

>Baltic States Come Out Swinging After Trump Says He Might Abandon NATO

>It looks like Toomas Hendrik Ilves, president of Estonia — one of the countries Trump threatened not to protect — just wanted to clear a few things up. He pointed out on Twitter that Estonia is one of just five European countries to fulfill NATO’s target that nations spend at least 2 percent of their GDP on defense.

>Estonia isn’t the only Baltic country feeling the heat from Trump’s comments. In an interview with Foreign Policy on Thursday, the Latvian ambassador to the United States, Andris Razāns, touted the fact that while his country has not yet reached the 2 percent defense spending threshold, “we have, by law, committed to have this 2 percent in 2018.” He also noted that “we are increasing very dramatically defense spending more than 40 percent this year.”

>Razāns added his view that an ironclad commitment by NATO members to each other is more important than ever given Russia’s recent aggressive behavior towards its neighbors in Ukraine, Georgia and the Baltic states. At the same time, he emphasized that Latvia does not usually comment on the remarks of political figures during “pre-election time,” but given the invocation of the Baltic states by the Times and Trump, Razāns said he wanted to clarify Latvia’s commitment to the alliance.

foreignpolicy.com/2016/07/21/baltic-states-come-out-swinging-after-trump-says-he-might-abandon-nato/

Haha, pathetic cucks. I hope Russia invades them.

We wouldn't want to start WW3 with Cuckrope unprepared now would we?

I would start stockpiling food and water with a good shelf life OP.

Well, dismantling the "welfare state" has the silver lining in the fact that much less Islamic Dindu's get made in European countries.

Kill multiple birds with one stone.

>All members pay next to nothing for defense spending and divert hat money to social welfare
>Only the US benefits

Shut the fuck up

China?

>NATO is a globalist relic army that bullies the rest of the world
>Trump refuses to force americans to fund it via stolen resources (i.e. taxes)
>proposes to charge countries to use american warstuff that is already built, may profit out of it
>other NATO countries will now have to do bullshit like diplomacy and actually be accountable instead of "murrica will bomb u"
>somehow this is bad

fuck nato as it sits it's useless

its time to kick out turkey
give russia their spot
and retool the group to fight islamic extremism

fund your own militaries. lazy cucks

People compare him to Hitler, so I'll do the same.

Hitler was shit at everything but speaking

What caused him and his country to almost overtake the entire world was his ministers and generals.

To lead a country, all you need is a vision. There are many people qualified enough to do the job, they just need to know what the goal is.

As a Britbong: boo this is bad
As a rational human being: Good idea that is a smart move for America.

we are rebuilding are nuclear subs, it has been decided, british steal will be used if the deal is fair.

if China is a problem in the North Atlantic then we're past the point where NATO is helping anyone

again, it serves US interests, so yes, only the US benefits

China is not over running Europe anytime soon.

>Back stabbing

How?

Most of the world could benefit a lot from not being protected by America. Maybe people will stop being pussies and look after themselves.

A solitary post does not make a fence.

>not wanting to die for jews
>back stabber
he is loyal to his people

NATO is more like an agreement.

You do X and we will do Y but most of the countries fail to do X to begin with so why should we do Y.

Trump is right on this one.

If Trump scares the bitches into paying their fair share, I'm fine with NATO.

Id love to see NATO disbanded. Sorry Europe.

This. Donald Trump is a bigger threat to Western security than ISIS.

His words are undermining the alliance that our countrymen before us worked so hard to maintain.

Americans wouldn't know the value of loyalty if it hit them in the head.

we do fund our own military

I don't actually have anything against the Baltic states. I am seriously angry at countries like Germany, France, and Belgium who leech off America and pretend they're paying their fair share to NATO.

I wonder how "civilized" your refugees will be once that free money goes away and into America's pocket. I wonder how long Europe would have before civil wars erupt over lack of money for those refugees.

Russia doesn't need to invade Europe, Europe is already under Muslim occupation. The only exception are Denmark and Poland.

>NATO countries don't want to maintain their armies
>Rely on America instead

Literally everyone is better off and safer this way

a group of countries that watch each other's back and look out for their best interests, thats all you need to know

soon

I don't care, UK is fine.

Infact, we are heavily building our armed forces up

Going into navy as Air engineering tech in 3 months

But we're not in NATO and the current legislation has been increasing our military budget. Gonna buy some new jets soon too :3

Calm down Doug (or is this Bob?) If our government is not meeting our obligations re % of GDP going towards defense, then we really don't deserve Americas protection. Trudeau will be out in 4 years anyways and we will have a glorious Tim Hudak CPC majority. Also, Hudak will enter federal politics soon.

>Only
You seem to not understand what that word means. I agree the US does benefit from it greatly but to say the entire European continent doesn't either is a flat out lie.

>only the US benefits from funding half of Europe's defence
pay denbts

1 fucking percent

Let's totally stay part of a organization that is doing its best to start world war 3 woth Russia!

Good.

We should destroy the EU, hang the traitors, and create a Pan-European Militia comprising all able bodied White citizens. Like the Swiss model. Boris ain't going to want any of that. So who needs NATO? They work for the Banks, just like the UN.

NATO is literally entangling alliances all over again. Didn't we learn why this is bad before?

Yes, Greece we are aware but majority of people don't.

russia is only place to have nukes on a first strike bases

NATO was an alliance against the Soviet Union, which fell a quarter-century ago. It's time for a re-evaluation; we can't assume it's useful just because it's there. I don't see what's so outrageous about asking other military allies to contribute something closer to a fair share of military forces.

IT'S CALLED SOCIALISM, YOU GIANT FUCKING SHITLORD!!!

SOCIALIST LIVES MATTER!!!

You guys pay the toll, youre safe

If your country can't pay 2% for military,
It doesn't deserve to be saved.

How do you feel about this backlash against trump when Obama flopped on the defense pact we had with your country?

Genius move desu. If those European pussies had to pay for their own defense, they'd have less money. Once money is tight, they'd have to choose between continuing to import Muslim hordes or keep their social programs. Those lazy eurocucks sure do love their social programs, so they'll choose to close up their borders.

socialist shit holes that expect free shit without any cost

The advantage this time is that they are socialist shit holes, which tend to crumple under their own weight, and not countries with actual power and actual militaries.

>the threat of American invasion if you attack a NATO member solely benefits America
>the average citizen in those countries not getting slaughtered by sandnigger militaries or "not" Russian tanks does not benefit those people or their countries
You faggots can't even make a flag without ripping us off, why the fuck would anyone take your retard opinions seriously? Go back to ruining your country instead of this board.

Trump said he wants them to pay their fair share. They realized we would pay for them if they take their defense spending, use it to subsidize social programs, and then make fun of how underfunded American social programs are.

Lol you have poor black people who can't go to the hospital. Actually no, Fritz, but you are a shifty little thief. pay dents

Freeloaders don't like that. They like jerking off to the status quo. It's why they love Hillary so much. When people say Hillary is good for Europe they're not lying, they get to have this freeload as long as one of the elites throws away America's sovereignty for Europe's woes.

Get ready to pay the America Tax, motherfuckers. You're military's are pathetic so you rely on ours for your safety. Get taxed, bitches.

>allies
What we we get from them again?

Loyalty like France starting wars in North Africa to protect its currency but creating more refugee problems
Fuck off Europe, you haven't done shit for us
We pay for your military and all you do is waste the money on niggers instead

what the fuck

why are we 2nd highest when turkey is still occupying cyprus and we dont give a shit about russia

my god this country is cucked

This.

A part of the NATO agreement stipulates mutual help in an event of an attack on of the members

A different part of the agreement stipulates that member countries must spend 2% of their GDP on military

Somehow cucks have no problem with 90% of NATO members not following the agreement but are suddenly outraged at one country not wanting to follow it.

Good estie

Why should americans care? All we do is eat up their tax money. Doesnt matter to the average american if its Russia or muslims that cucks us.

We only have ourselves to thank.

We will hit 3% soon. Just saying. Poland strong.

Hopefully not F-35. I want some Gripens

Nato isn't an alliance it's a military agreement. I'm sure if the US goes to war France and the UK are likely to follow, the same vice versa, regardless of whether they are in NATO or not.

Yeah ok. Literally NO ONE is NATO holds up their end of the agreement, then when someone calls them on their freeloading we're the back stabbers.

tbhfam I really want Trump to step back from the world so we can hear everyone cry for help when after we give them what they've asked for.

>can't
None of these sub-minimum contributors can't afford it, they just choose not to because they're busy embezzling most of their funds and giving the rest to subhuman invaders.

we have friendly relations with russia and sandnigger militaries invaded cyprus ages ago and the US certainly didnt invade

its a nuclear agreement, not just an amry, the final goal is total nuclear disarmament.

Why would anyone want Gripen?

Buy the F35 goy

Not even fucking Germany pays the needed amount. Fuck all of you fucks guard your own doorstep.

They don't have to balls to do it and if they do I bet whoever is getting it deserves it.

Based Poland meets its NATO Obligations. You will be our new Greatest Ally.

>America is paying 70% of NATOs expenses

explain how Trump is being unreasonable when half of europe can't even meet the 2% GDP demand

don't expect someone else to defend you if you can't be bothered to spend 2% of your GDP on defending yourself

>Donald Trump to ABANDON NATO
Good. Fuck nato.

>tfw nato dissolves

soon...

lets see how high and mighty the commie Europeans are when they have to pay for their own defense. good bye welfare queen faggots

Trump also supports Erdoğan's budding Islamist tyranny.

fpbp desu senpai

Yeah, but 4% of $20 really doesn't amount to much.

Only countries that deserve protection can post ITT
Not so fast France and Germany

We already are you asshole.
Yet you still deny us VISA free movement.
Why? Every other nation in Europe doesn't need Visas to visit US and yet, somehow we are the only ones punished by you.

probably gonna be F35 tho, so much mingling between MIC and our political leadership lately that there is definitely some serious lobby going on

>Fly two aircraft into your own towers
>Ask us to fight 15 years in Afganistan
>Suddenly your retarded president has daddy issues and wants to kil Sadam
>Force us in a 10 year war on top of Afghanistan

Burgers you've costed us billions with your bullshit. Might as well end NATO.

We have Nukes in the EU so Russia won't do shit.

>Americans in this thread are forgetting that they literally FORCED every Western nation to join NATO because they wanted to play an international dick measuring contest with Russia and placed the lives of every European at risk.

>rope us into the wars of your masters constantly
>HURR UR JUS USING US

sure.

North Atlantic Treaty Organization
Formed to combat the Russian Soviet Empire.
Which broke up in 1989

NATO is irrelevant.

No problem with leaving it.
You dont make something diminish and go away by continuing to feed it.