Why do Russia and the EU conflict?

Why do Russia and the EU conflict?
The Cold War is over
Russia must join the EU

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Because Russia needs an external enemy for stability and their way of thinking is not compatible with the EU

1. Populaton too big for eu
2.ex eastern block wouldn't let us in

Russia needs to get closer to asia not eu

No one wants that corrupt shithole in EU.

Why do South Korea and North Korea Conflict?
The Korean War is over
South Korea must join North Korea

we can't abandon your brother
youtube.com/watch?v=2izTbEyxg0A

This

Or you could try not sperging out and shutting off the gas lines to Europe everytime they do something that you don't like

Do want EUSSR

Europe should join another continent and leave us alone already.

You new worlders wouldn't understand

this

Yeah, we should just give them gas for free next time they don't feel like paying for it. Nice logic.

It's not a money issue you've done it multiple times because your neighbors started thinking about joining the EU

If Russia concedes its former sphere it's tantamount to admitting it isn't a major power any more. There's a kind of twisted logic to it, especially from their regime's POV

Literally when did they do it?
You're lying.

>It's not a money issue
It literally is, you brainwashed idiot. They stop paying then start complaining when they don't have gas.

you should stop being dumb

He would stop existing.

Russia has cut off gas to Ukraine due to personal debts multiple times, however the rest of Europe was effected just as much from the gas cut. How inconsiderate

>american
>asking him to be not dumb

Seriously Russians need to get their head out of their ass

Except he's completely right though.

Then it's because of Ukraine, not russia...
You just admitted they were not paying.

Btw that's why theu

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia–Ukraine_gas_disputes

>Oh yeah, it's absolutely because Ukraine don't pay that we cut off gas for whole Europe
>Clearly nothing to do with geopolitical things that are happening at the same time
How far right in France can be made of such cucks. Tired of american cock they are now starving for Russian one.

i like russians they are blunt but honest and we south koreans like blunt people tho

"Motives for the Russian action include sending a signal to Europe that Ukraine should not be integrated into the Euro-Atlantic zone, but remain within the Russian sphere of influence."

heritage.org/node/14776/print-display

>Russia has cut off gas to Ukraine due to personal debts multiple times, however the rest of Europe was effected just as much from the gas cut
Well no shit. The pipeline goes through Ukraine.
Ukraine has been caught syphoning away gas more times than anyone cares to count and constantly has outstanding debt in the billions that they've structured and restructured and rerestructured with Russia. This has been going on for years.

Because Russia is just big bully to all their neighbors

Russians never had democracy so whole their society is based on master-slave attitude

So maybe in 50-60 years

>Polack to the rescue
I know that the concept of paying for the product you receive is a foreign one for eastern europeans, but that's how it works. You don't pay = you don't get shit.

>Clearly nothing to do with geopolitical things that are happening at the same time
This has been happening since long before any conflict with Ukraine so that argument doesnt really stand.

You just have to be honest sometimes. It was clearly Ukraine's fault this time, they admitted they were stealing gas..

A lot of people don't know the situation that's all and you're one of them.

I don't like defending russia but the brainwash is strong on your side a well, so you force me to.

>Why do Russia and the EU conflict?
Europeans can't get over the fact that we are the only country they never managed to conquer, so they resort to underhanded tactics.
>The Cold War is over
It was never over.
>Russia must join the EU
South Korea must join China

Pay debts

>eastern europeans
>paying for anything instead of screeching and asking for gibs

The average russian would be better off under the EU

talking to yourself again Ivan, lay off the krokodil

Well this is not exactly true, in 2004 Ukraine had Orange Revolution and elected Yushchenko as president. He was pro EU anti Russia.
And in 2005 Gas Wars start.

What?

Its actually you who still own us money from commie times

You just gave us some old helicopters in 90s

The average russian would be dead under european control.

>another EE nigger
Like clockwork

What makes you think this?

Nah, only like 50%, other half would be europazed

I'm always amazed to see what is deeply ingrained into Russian minds after a century of propaganda.

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Maybe in the short term. But the EU would never let Russia join. Not without massive concessions akin to nazi Germany at the end of WW2. It would be worse than the 90s

>Its actually you who still own us money from commie times
Russia payed all USSR debts.

It always amazes me when europeans talk about propaganda.

Perhaps North Koreans have similar attitudes to the people of the former Soviet Union?

Nigger you've been living the past half a century bombarded by propaganda.
What's worse is that you're oblivious to it.

>other half would be europazed
Fate even worse than death.

All of your press is state sponsored ivan.

Westerners accusing others of propaganda is like Nazis calling someone racist, always a mind-boggling sight.

Oh you are right, last payment was in 2014

Still we gave you 50% off from 4bn $ debt, you only paid like 2

Western propoganda has really died down since the fall of the USSR

The EUSSR is a disaster of a union anyway. Why would they join it?

Nigger our press thinks our president is an orange goblin

I've always thought that Russia was a bad guy, but then, I looked into EU, USA and others, and now the only thing I wish for is total death of h*man race.

>What's worse is that you're oblivious to it.

Sure. Let's assume what I believe. I'm not the one who spilled a grossly distorted view of reality on this thread. If anything I talked about Russian propaganda, which is hard to deny.

And the fact you assume that I don't admit there is propaganda in Europe show your huge bias.

>Everybody is stupid and ignorant but me.

>Western propoganda has really died down since the fall of the USSR
I would ask you if you are serious, but I know for sure that you are. You are literally North Korea -tier brainwashed.

>Burgers really believe this
Kek. If anything it's been ramped up and permeates literally every level of society

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>Soviet Union collapses
>Gorbie replaces cabinet with pro-west staff
>Glad we can put this behind us USA, lets work together and take humans into the space age. Please give us some time to put our country back together and lets not make anymore adversarial moves
>US Pres: "Ok Gorbie, sounds goo.."
>Neocon thinktanks advise Pentagon, Sec of State, and their Congressmen: FUCK RUSSIA, EXPAND NATO RIGHT UP TO THEIR FRONT DOOR, DO IT NOW GO GO GO
>NATO (The Anti-Russia Alliance) expands all the way to Russia.
>Neoconservative thinktanks funded by defense industry propose plan after plan showing the economic benefits of having a perpetual enemy locked in perpetual warfare to boost defense industry spending, weapons tech innovation, and political grip on extraordinary powers granted in wartime permanently. FOR 30 YEARS
>Same guys who write the policies the thinktanks land in positions of power, push for USA to enter 15 years of fucking war in the Middle East with no specified enemy and no specified objectives and no specified exit strategy.
>USA does not rally behind war effort ever.
>Nationalism needs a nationalistic enemy.
>John McCain gets other congressmen on board calling for return to the cold war with Russia because it was profitable for the Defense industry.
>McCain nearly becomes president.
>(Sarah Palin ruins everything)
>Neoconservatives continue to push for return to Cold War with Russia ever since.

Who was elected by russian hackers. Stalin era Pravda newspaper wouldn't come up with something like this. Even Goebbels would think it is a little bit too much.

Russia is giant North Korea

More like americans need external enemy to control nato and justify expenses.
and EU way of thinking is way of the pussy

>And the fact you assume that I don't admit there is propaganda in Europe show your huge bias.
Now thats some truly twisted shit m8.
So basically you're admitring that you're the pot calling the kettle black? Sure I generalized you in with the majority of Western people. But the fact remains that almost everything we see nowadays is propaganda. The difference is that people in Russia are used to it and KNOW to take it with a grain of salt.

Don't sell Europe short, 'muh Russia' is a centuries old proud european tradition.

No No, The Russians are Not Brainwashed.

So DNC shafting Sanders in favour of Hillary is democracy?

Russia is certainly shit but c'mon 2 party system is not really different from
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominant-party_system

Russia is bad guy, US is just arrogant asshole but I truly believe that EU is good guy, like lighthouse of liberty, human rights, prosperity and pragmatism for the whole world

Eu is role model abd just few decades ahead how can the world be a better place

What part of western society is brainwashed? We live in a divided political climate and the press keeps fighting each other and authority. The media can't take trump seriously and the average citizen doesn't trust the US government one bit.

That's big business talking. Bernie is a socialist though so that makes sense why he would be thrown under the rug. As a result though most democrats no longer trust the DNC

soon all european countries will realise that Russia is their natural ally.
the european union must be abolished as it is an organisation that doesn't promote the interests of european peoples.
Nato and Americans must be kicked out of the continent for europeans to live in peace with our friends and allies in Russia

tass.com/world/976709

Fuck it. I never say something else and your being a fucking tool. Read the fucking conversation dumbass.

>So basically you're admitring that you're the pot calling the kettle black
I'm not the one doing the propaganda, duh. I know it's common here to identify with its own country like a single man, but it's a bit dumb don't you think?
So I don't see why I couldn't talk about Russian propaganda.

I started on this thread by defending the Russians on this Ukraine story.
But it looks like if you don't admit they are victims (them and their government) in absolutely every domains they're not happy about it.

>EU is good guy
Europeans don't even know the meaning of the word 'good'. You always were and always will be the world's villains, who fuck up everything you touch.

>What part of western society is brainwashed?
America is a fully controlled people. This is really sad you can't see it.

>everyone is BAD!
Not really, Russia is worst

He was elected by americans who wanted something that was unattainable.
Russian support on the web helped too but it was mostly due to the political climate in america. A large portion of Normies are fed up with globalism, multiculturalism, and social progressivism. Trump is extremely against these.

Perhaps South Korea is the only country that has a friendly relationship with the United States, Russia, and the EU at same time.

Look :
>Europeans don't even know the meaning of the word 'good'. You always were and always will be the world's villains, who fuck up everything you touch.

That's what I was talking about. Tell me this guy is not brainwashed, if he is not a troll (I admit he may well be).

t. north korean

>Russian support on the web
Literally insanity-tier propaganda. Right there with Jewish canal and Illuminati. And yet, you are eating it up.

A country without political conflict is brainwashed

>More like americans need external enemy to control nato and justify expenses.
> and EU way of thinking is way of the pussy

Yes, this is a prime example of a typically Russian argument

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Care to prove me wrong? Lybia and Syria are quite the utopias these days, right?

You see, mein neger, those who are pro-Russian that way, which he tries to look like, are barely able to use internet for social networks. Of fucking course he is a troll, just like 60% of Russian flags here.

>Russia didn't tamper US elections
You're retarded

>Russia is bad guy,
>he thinks of geopolitical issues in black and white
Kys
>What part of western society is brainwashed
99% of it.
>We live in a divided political climate and the press keeps fighting each other
Doesnt mean they are propagantists.
They might bicker over small things to make a show and get viewership but the key tennants dont change.
>muhh trump
Who gives a shit? The very fact that the overwhelming majority of news outlets are against him is a cause for thought.
Here's a useful albeit slightly outdated guide to identifying propaganda. Im sure you can find updated ones online.
Now try to analyse any news story on your tv and tell me it isnt propaganda.
ckcounterpunch.wordpress.com/2008/12/10/diy-how-to-spot-a-propaganda-through-critical-thinking-why-think-about-propaganda/

>I admit he may well be
nikita is itt so quite possible

No, you are. You are a brainwashed, retarded idiot, who believes in such a ridiculously low effort propaganda, that it's funny.

We are tho, only 16% of people are sane.

If you really believe that shit you're fucking stupid.

What makes you morally superior? We're both human beings born at two different places.
I'm not the french government dumbass. And the fact you defend putin and his corrupted system like your own ear is pathetic.

What place in the world is less brainwashed than the west?

We've convicted a good portion of Trump's cabinet with collusion with Russia you doofus

I'm stupid if I believe that Lybia and Syria were turned into war-torn wastelands because of actions of your governments? Okay then. Thanks for proving my point.

Russians don't trust the west

fpbp

You're full of shit. entire europe, eastern bloc included, was bending over backwards to suck your dick. Poland even allowed you to get away with humiliating them over death of half of their government in a plane crash.

Yeah, I'm sure you have.