Stupid white people, don't you understand that William was the VILLIAN

Stupid white people, don't you understand that William was the VILLIAN

laweekly.com/film/falling-down-25th-anniversary-michael-douglas-was-the-villain-8164453

Seriously though this sums up how totally spoiled and out of touch this generation of with the real world

Great thread, OP. Really jargon my nargon.

> Picture of the writer is LITTERALY a white woman and her cat

Really niggin my noggin.

>writer say of her political ennemis they don't understand the movie, or only in good/bad terms
> Review is litteraly HEY WHITE PPL UR BAD OK ? BLACKS ARE ALWAYS VICTIMS

>Hey, White People
Huh, me? I'm white.

>Michael Douglas Is the Villain, Not the Victim, in Falling Down
Well, duh. I got that watching it when I was 12.

>Ignores article

Don't you understand that Sanders was the rapist?

He was a villain and a victim. Only idiots think he was a hero.

People can't seem to understand that a person can be a victim while still doing bad things against other people.

>it's good and natural that non-whites make Los Angeles a shitty place to live

> What's a anti-hero ?

>white men were finding themselves destabilized — not guaranteed a place on top
What a load of bullshit. Since when have white men been guaranteed a place on top?

>people can't be villains and victims at the same time
is she retarded

i get that to normies dfens was the villain and a victim but to me he was the hero. i hope you can understand me like i understand you.

how so? are nervous breakdowns acts of heroism? i get being able to sympathize with him, but why see him as a hero?

He didn't do anything villianess.

He took the final redpill, his wife took his only daughter away from him and he couldn't even visit her.

>woman
>subtlety
pick one and only one, I still haven't met a girl that managed to understand Great Gatsby, and that's a goddamn high school book.

>taking your anger out on everyone in your path regardless of whether they deserve it
>Hero
I think you need to reevaluate your life.

Yeah, nah, he was the hero.

You're fucking retarded
>fucking failure has nervous breakdowns every 10 minutes, yells at daughter for no reason at all
>even he realizes this as he watches old home videos
>destroys some store because of the price of some coke or something
>goes apeshit over mcdonalds not serving breakfast after 11
>wants to actually murder his own daughter and ex-wife
>psychopath lies to his own mother for years about keeping his job
Yeah what a hero, but he got fired, that's the worst thing that has ever happened to anyone in the history of the world and it has only happened to him so he's completely justified!

>William
>VILLIAN

Pottery

You made sense until your very last sentence.
>If life shits all over you, just fucking take it and do nothing you privileged douche, everyone's life is shit so deal with it

This kind of message is probably why people identify with the main character, although his actions are obviously absurd and exaggerated.

>William was the VILLIAN
He's a pretty typical antihero.

>If life shits all over you take it out on innocent bystanders
>Hero

This, the only person he kills is a nazi. I guess he induces the golf faggot's heart attack but that was deserved too.

>you're only a villain if you kill people

go home beaner

you didn't grow up on the "if you go to college you'll have an upper managerial position waiting for you upon graduation" meme?

So because someone tells you that you will get that job if you go to college it means you are guaranteed that job?

This is a pretty good article desu

>he does it for free

okay I'll go watch it. lately I am very suggestable.

Did he take his anger out on the rich family who's back garden he stumbles into? No. So your attempt at a point is null.

>childhood is thinking D-FNS is the villain
>adulthood is realizing you should be shitposting on Sup Forums

Isn't the point of everyone cheering him on is because he's doing what we want to do in our minds but we don't because we know the consequences?

Like sometimes when you get annoyed at work by your cunt boss for the hundredth time you wish you could just snap and fucking scream at people but you don't.

This dude is just doing what we fantasize about and we say fuck it and cheer him on.

>Isn't the point of everyone cheering him on is because he's doing what we want to do in our minds but we don't because we are slaves?
Yes.

"These people wrote an article presenting the world in a dichotomous light, that proves my point that an entire group of people are horrible."

t.(You)

STOP BEING WHITE

Unfortunately, this CURRENT GENERATION only believes in snapping and screaming to defend deviant behavioral patterns instead of their own pride and self-respect.

Why is she strangling that poor cat?

>being a cuck circa 2003

>People can't seem to understand that a person can be a victim while still doing bad things against other people.

Literally no millenial can get this, they are either good pure people or bad egotistical people

This movie followed layoffs in the defense industry as part of the "peace dividend", a consequence of the made up, "history is over!" meme with the collapse of the Soviet Union.

Worked all his life building defense equipment, what, nobody wants missile engineers or whatever anymore?

When the movie came out, there was discussion of whether you should feel a cathartic rush as he roughed up all these shitheads in a string of vignettes, as he has his downfall.

The only misstep in the movie is he kills the army surplus guy.

He did literally nothing wrong.

This is literally a board made of millenials and we are talking about this idea.

Are you retarded?

Yeah because your edgy personality is so common in the millenial age group lol

All the shots of the filthy cramped city with the close ups of people and the blistering heat waves in the air and the dirt and all the fucking mix of races and poverty is so claustrophobic. Its one of the few times a movie made me feel uncomfortable watching. Like it affected my breathing.

>it's a 13 year old edgelords don't see the problem in throwing a massive violent tantrum across town episode

Here's hoping Trumptards and antifas break each other's heads today. I'm sure it'll accomplish something.

Except literally everyone sees the problem in it. It's why we don't do it. This movie is fantasy dude.

It's honestly more worrying that you don't get that.

He was antihero.

Holy shit this, the director did a good job making me feel disgusted by the city.

Anything beyond totally good/evil paradigm is too hard for normies

well I'm just watching it now it's about half over. It seems like the moral of the story is to treat people nicely because maybe you can get away with being a dick because of social norms inhibiting people from treating you as you deserve, but one day maybe someone won't be bound by those laws of society.

But do you really need to treat people well just because you are scared of violence? You should just do it because it's right.

Why do people never get that the twist of the movie is that he never had any intention of hurting his wife at the end?

He had a fucking toy for his kid and a water pistol. It's implied through the movie his entire motivation is going to go take his anger out on his WHORE CUNT of an ex wife and kill her but he doesn't. Not even when he could.

What's the point of this scene?

This

>Except literally everyone sees the problem in it.
>multiple posts in the thread worshiping D-Fens

Okay.

He was a tragic villain, an epitome of the obsolete blue-collar white man in today's weird world.

This is like watching the boys in the hood movie and calling them the villains of it becuse they not only robbed people but shot people with bb guns out their car

>He had a toy pistol
....after his wife kicked the real gun away from him.

I wrote an essay about this movie that says that it decrypts a society so ill that the normal guy becomes the tumor

this movie could never be made today because they got the all day breakfast at mcdonalds now so you wouldn't even have to worry about being late for breakfast.

Was he a villain? Or just another victim of society?

>browsing and posting on Sup Forums while watching a movie
What is wrong with you?

He would ask for a mcflurry and he would be told the machine is broke.

To show that Micheal Douglass wasn't alone in being ignored and shit on by society.

>boo hoo the nazi and the rich, old cunt deserved to live

why didnt he just get another job? he's a STEM rocket scientist from what I understand. He could've branched off into anything with his resume but instead he cries about contract work running out?

These people were black, so it's ok.
Only minorities have a right to be angry at the world.

Its showing that others are in his same situation. He sees himself in this black dude. They are even wearing the exact same outfit.. Also shows its not about LE ANGRY WHITE MALE when there's a nig nog going through the same hardship

Gee im sure he never thought of that.

Why does she have fucking Idaho tattooed on her arm?

your image game is weak

>tfw all day breakfast but the only thing you like is the big breakfast but they only serve breakfast sandwiches
I mean I guess I could deconstruct a mcmuffin or something but its not the same

What makes you say that weeb?

The squirtgun wasn't a gift he took it from her house. I kinda doubt he was going to kill them though.

The whole point of Falling Down wasn't "Hurr white male rage is fallacious because of white privilege." It was to make you support the main character then make you feel like shit as you slowly realize you were allying with a psychopath the whole time.

Yeah, he was always the bad guy. No, it was not a condemnation of "white male rage."

>poor black people lash out in violence
>buuuh victim culture just take responsibility for your actions lol

This. As annoying as some of the content in that article is, it's right. D-Fens isn't supposed to be a hero or a victim. He's an angry person throwing a violent temper tantrum because he was mad the world didn't give him things he felt entitled to.

>not having a tattoo of americas number one potato-producing state

Hahahahahaha fucking pleb

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Why shouldn't he be mad? He was a hard working honest man that lost everything. If he can't be mad at that what can he be mad at?

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wtf I love Canada now!

The line "I'm the bad guy?" and the context/delivery it's given in tells you literally everything

The point is, that even if you are justified in your anger, you shouldn't take it out on other people.

Coincidentally, not lashing out suits the people who wrong you quite fine.

Wait really? A sympathetic villian? Damn I thought he was the hero of this film. I mean he spent like a few seconds trying to care about the guy having a heart attack after he spooked him into having it, and he like, worked for the DoD n shit. Heart of gold this guy. He only beat the guy for daring to sell his soda for the price set by supply and demand which he was too retarded to understand.

>that scene where they try to make him seem less racist and unamerican by having him beat up the literal gasmask nazi when he's been acting like a retarded white supremacist socialist the entire movie, demonstrating a willful lack of understanding about the basics of American culture

>EVERYONE WAS SO KIND AND UNDERSTANDING TO HIM! WHY WAS HE SO ANGRY WITH THESE PEOPLE?

Sup Forums is mostly socialists, just like you. Neither of your groups can fully grasp the concept of agency, so try not to go after each other over it. You're the same shit.

But lesbians irl are ugly dykes, lesbians are hot is a harmful sexist stereotype against heterosexual (sane) women perpetuated by the sexist chauvinist porn industry, wtf, I love Saudi Arabia now.

Nobody says it's not okay to get mad. Everybody gets mad and you have to when life fucks you over otherwise you'll go insane. But to take it out on other people is retarded
>B-but muh normies just don't get it, I'm exactly like D-Fens!

Does anyone actually side with William in this film? The only decent thing he does is fucking off the Nazi

If people are fine with the system, they are fair game.

>THIS ASSHOLE JUST TRIED TO SELL THIS SODA FOR MORE THAN I WANTED IT TO BE AND DIDN'T CARE THAT I LOOKED SWEATY AND DISGRUNTLED BECAUSE IT'S SOOOOO HOT
>LET ME CLUB HIM WHILE I TELL HIM THE CORRECT PRICES HE MORALLY MUST SELL EVERYTHING FOR
>FUCK LE BOURGEOIS
>RRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>I PAID YOU THE PRICE I SET AFTER THREATENING YOU TO LOWER IT, THUS IS AM NOT A THIEF

Sup Forums does, hilariously. Mostly to trigger people though, or for the laughs, because Sup Forums is the last vestige of the thing Sup Forums used to be the only thing keeping alive on Sup Forums...a developed, non-sensitive sense of humor. SJW faggots spend amazing amounts of time lurking Sup Forums or Sup Forums peripheries and getting triggered, it seems. The irony of having to point out that he's a bad guy to get back at Sup Forums boogeyman when he beats up a Nazi caricature worse than anyone else in the film must be pretty bitter.

He was the villain though. He didn't start off as the villain but ended up being that

The whole point of the ending sequence was him realizing that

>I'm the bad guy?

Clearly not white

>white
You forgot some (((punctuation))) there, bud

>i-it's da system!
Yes, peaceful trade sure is more oppressive to the little people than constant, unending war. Hear me now, because this affects your future. There are exactly three actually effective methods for directing how masses interact with each other beyond letting them loot, rape and pillage each other how they please until everything collapses and new systems form. They are:
- Near-constant formalized wars. Rape, looting, and pillaging, but on the clock and with rest periods in between.
- Indoctrination. The inducement of functional forms of mass mental illness. REQUIRE a focus of hatred and negative emotions. The most effective is a group of people, foreign or domestic. Otherwise, abstract concepts which people will eventually grow to consider other groups to be the avatars of, and sometimes rightly.
- Trade. People who are better at making and organizing things do better in this one, as opposed to people who are only good at killing and breaking shit. Mutually enriching when allowed to continue. Advances scientific and technological progress without the need for warfare. Leads to vast income inequality, while raising the material quality of life and care for everyone. Its only downfall is retards will look at the discrepancy between the rich and the poor, ignore the poor's bettering lot or think it could be improved faster despite this literally never ever happening even once in history especially not by "redistributing" wealth, and stick their dick in something they're too stupid and jealous to understand. The poor and the lazy will follow along like retards, no matter how much you try to explain to them that they're not just robbing their betters, people who work and think harder than they do and the dynasties those people set up...they're actually fucking themselves and ensuring they and their children will pay more and get less because they keep disrupting and disincentivizing the trade machine.

I'm supposed to be a nigger-tier socialist to be white now?

>I feel okay when people step all over me, and you should too!

Demi Moore looked delicious in that film.