Give me a legit reason why we need NATO

Give me a legit reason why we need NATO

There is no reason

to pretend Kant was right

The memes.

Cool logo...?
Looks like a shuriken had anal sex with a pentagram

ebil russia of course, didn't you get the memo?

Because otherwise Russia would have taken parts of Baltics and Poland already. Look what happened in Ukraine, they weren't in NATO and got fucked by russia

That's the UN you twat.

I don't care about having NATO, but other countries need to pay their fair share.

We don't, and you are cucked by most NATO members not paying the required 2%.

>Turkey has your nukes

So the corrupt can stay in power

We don't need those eurocucks, they need us.

Enjoy your socialist countries when you have to actually spend money on defense you faggots

The logo is the best part.

>mfw my cunt isn't even on the list
If only...

The best nuclear defense is being a completely irrelevant gypsy shithole

so you dont get outnumber and fuckt so hard that you wont see the light again.

So you can build your bases and satelite controlls and anti ICBM shield all over the world.

So if it comes to a war, you dont have it to fight on your own home soil but far away with your ppl untouched.

SO the other nations dont became a competitor and your military might is unchallenged.

The old saying goes, keep your enemy's closer then your real enemy's. or something like that.

Why is Belarus not savagely invaded by russia then ?

So Europe doesn't get fucked by the Russians again.

because Belarus is a puppet staate that only exist because Russia allows it.

belarus is a shithole

>canadian education

>implying I didn't just choose a random image

You fucking autist.

The idiocy.

It's "keep your friends close and your enemies closer". So that doesn't work.

Also, do you seriously think you'd be left alone by Putin without NATO? Kraut plz.

Shut up Germany, we're not sharing our nukes after Trump becomes President. In fact, I prefer if we given our nuclear stock of Belgium to Poland or Estonia. Much worth deserving since they pay their bills.

To waste US money.

Here's three.

it's a good thing they're getting fucked by dunecoons instead
getting fucked by russians would be just terrible
the nazis shoved 20 centimeters of wood up my ass
the hemorrhoids still bleed to this day

Do you know what Belarussia is or you just looked at the map of Eastern Europe?
Belarussia ir basically Russia. There is no need to invade a country that does everything you want it to do. Ukraine wanted to join EU and got fucked by Russia. No doubt if Latvia wasn't in NATO, Russians would claim parts of Eastern Latvia for themselves

Thinking anyone in nato gives rats ass about baltic/poland or all v4.

maybe they wouldn't do shit if we got invaded, but the possibility that it might is enough to keep the russkies away

because Europoor nations cant afford their own

so they socialized military spending

Without nato there would be a other alliance. Like Warsaw pakt.

Revers now what Russia fears the most. being surrounded.

It simpel.

Where is the idiocy in that?
All of it facts. Or you think USA would be allowed to station troops in other country's and place radars and Satellite coms and ICMB shields just because?

Every country allowing US forces to be deployed is making it self a target.

If they ant to get to the US they have to go trough us first.

then GTFO my country and take all your stuff. We will be neutral then, dont even think to use our airspace and ports or water ways.

Why do you hate russians so bad already ? Imposed communism ?

Go to hell- oh wait...
Fuck you Satan :(

>Trumpshills carrying Putin's water like a bunch of cucks

Eastern Euro countries fulfill their NATO obligations much more than Western Euro ones.

The only reason Trump says negative things about NATO is because Kremlinbabbies Manafort and Flynn have his ear.

To avoid what you're talking about you'd have to tell all Russia's neighbours "Sorry but to avoid making the Russians butthurt and nervous we're going to have to let them do whatever they want with you". The whole point of NATO is to protect smaller European state from being fucked by the big Russian bear regardless of Russia's feelings on the matter.

It prevents nuclear proliferation.
It's an active deterrent to conflicts with its member states.
It generally prevents Russia from annexing nations willy-nilly.

That doesn't matter to Trump, though since half of his advisers are friends of the Kremlin.

>puts himself in a position to look retarded
>calls people autist once called out on being a faggot retard

To give you force projection capabilities against western parts of Russia. Not sure if that is relevant anymore since you let Putin take whatever he wants in Europe nowadays.

I know what NATO is.


But stills stands. Why do the US need NATO. You have my answer.

Getting rid of NATO would basically give all the
eurosceptic american friendly eastern european countries to Putin.

I would sort of get if Bernie was calling for it. But for the Republican front runner to want to dystroy Nato is literal lunacy.

NATO is obsolete, what we need is a pure defensive alliance that all freedom loving nations can join

Nah. Who needs world stability? Let Russia do what it wants. Just bring on WW3 and end it all already

All of the right wing faggots are.

That´s where they get there money from from.
Why the hell you think so many right wing party did spring up suddenly in Europe and call for the end of EU and NATO.

Fucking this.

As someone who voted for Marcobot 3000 in the primary, I don't give a shit about Trump saying he's going to deport people or whatever other meme shit the media complains about. But when he says retarded bullshit like this I just see red.

Destroy nato and form natowski?

?!?!?!

give me a "legit" reason why anyone needs anything

Do Americans suddenly hate NATO because of Trump?

Is it the John Oliver of the right, where people pretend to suddenly care about issues he brings up? Sad!

I was referring specifically to Manafort and Flynn, but I am familiar with Putin's elaborate propaganda efforts in Europe and on the web.

>No stock on AK

I know, they're paratroopers and they need to save space, but surely it wouldn't be that hard to put a fold-able stock on there?

A new defensive pact that is based out of Warsaw, open to all Central and Eastern European nations

It's bad enough we give Israel infinite money, but you want to keep playing private military defense force for more than 20 European countries...who don't even pay their bills....BECAUSE....?

MUH FEELS AND MUH RUSSIA? How about you eat shit you anti-American cunts, Europe's problems are their problems. If Europe goes back to bombing each other, that's our problem? If Russia invades a European country that doesn't fight back, that's our problem?

Everything that happens in the world is America's problem. The day NATO is put to grass will be the day globalism will be at death's door.

Hi retarded shills. Trump never said he wanted to get rid of NATO. Fuck off

Even if they dont succeed

look here
Americas credibility get damaged and confusion gets spread.

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You're not part of NATO dumbass, Japan's military protection by the United States is unaffected. Losing access to Asia via Japan airbases and docks would be a much bigger blow than having to fly over Europe with stealth bombers if we quit NATO.

if you don't border with russia you just can't understand

Because the only thing stopping Europe from allying with Russia is America

>Why do you have a gun?!?
>is it because you hate black people?

>Implying that I'm not more intelligent than you.

>Implying that your president didn't blow ours for airbases and a platform to 'export freedom and democracy' from.

>Implying that you're not a faggot.

>BLM

You still don't have your nukes, cuck.

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To save you pussy ass western europeans from the warsaw pact.

Failing to actually honor the treaty is effectively the same thing as getting rid of NATO, dumbass. When you do not defend people in your defensive pact and signal, publically, that you will not defend them, it doesn't mean jackshit as a deterrent.

wow says the anti eu chuck. Was it not enough that the first article 5 was invoked by the US and NATO solders did die for you fuck up?

European sons did die so you can write this shit. Should have let Muslims 9/11 24/7.

Nato does deserve criticism, especially since almost nobody follows the 2% spending rule.

But somehow people thing that any criticism means you instantly want to destroy the alliance and cast it into a dwarvinian survival fight. Because that grabs attention more than "we should kind of reform, but the central idea is solid"

It's a convenient excuse to have US military bases throughout Europe.

To waste American tax dollars on the imaginary Russian threat

I want Estonia and all the other European nations who insist on NATO to answer me.

NATO means that we are obligated to defend you if you are ever attacked. But would you reciprocate?

If the US was ever attacked, would you come to its aid? I know how many of you hate America.

If not, then you can't complain if the US decides not to oblige NATO anymore.

what is Afghanistan your fucking retard. We already did.

wew

We need Putin to dump all of Clinton's emails. We need to shut up liberals once and for all. Come on Russia, be our old pal again. Let us work together to fuck over liberals and destroy ISIS. We can test our nuclear weapons together.

Estonia at least pulls their weight in NATO. They'd probably help. I can't say the same about the NEETOS (nato states that are a bunch of neets that won't spend 2% on defense to meet their obligations)

to scare nations outside of NATO.

They can't 100% rely on NATO being a meme.

p.s. Notice that other nations DON'T have an alliance? Egypt had an alliance with Syria once. They couldn't make it work, because Arabs do not trust each other.

You fucker forgot Poland. Again.
>Iraq
>Afghanistan
>Iran and Turkey if need be
They don't have much to support you with but they're giving all they have.

You already invoked article 5.

For Russians, a new Cold War has already started.

Eastern Europeans like the United States by a large margin. We like you guys way more than the western european countries do

Why should America pay for Nato anymore?

Doesnt affect America if Europe is cucked by Russia or the mudslimes.

Trump spoke. Its been said. Europe is cucked by itself.

Cant say I blame you Murca.

It's nigh impossible for a military force to attack the US, save for (((terrorist attacks))) or if Canada and Mexico turned rogue. USA's defensive position is through the roof but if that were to happen you can bet we would be landing in Jew York within 24 hours.

That being said, I believe Russia is a misplaced enemy and would instead be a great ally to have if we're smart and don't let them play dirty tricks.

Still stuck in the 80s uh?

NATO existed b4 the baltics or poland were part of it,
NATO only cares about western europe,

Ivan please.

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really fires up the neurons

you have an alliance with China or is it just a meme?

For NATO it never endet.

That's not defending the US at all. 9/11 wasn't an invasion of the mainland, and invading Afghanistan had nothing to do with defending the US.

Again, invading Middle East countries has nothing to do with defending the US from an invasion.

Which was silly, because 9/11 was just a terrorist attack. By that logic, Britain could've invoked Article 5 every time the IRA reared its ugly head.

We have joined every war you had, faggot. We dont give a shit about the middle east, "world peace" or spreading democracy, but we have joined you because you needed help.

Rather its a question, will america actually return the favor, or will they just go realpolitik.

to protect our western values. without NATO we would be muslim already. at least we got about 20 more years to go now.

Meanwhioe only thing you have done for my country was trying to destabilize it with a coup.

>still believing trump is going to win

Because otherwise big bad Russia will invade the whole world and spread communism and then proceed to eat children.

No real alliance. It's a meme for 80-90%.

I like you too Latvia :3

wow.

You invoked article 5.
You got attacked by forteigne nation.
We invaded Afghanistan so no further attacks can occur from there on US soil again.
We honored our word.


But you dont care. Shit posting more important retard.

Explain me how will a other nation invade the USA if it has to go thru your allies first to get to you?

Am i wrong, John?

If there's one thing you can trust the US Government on, it's that the US military would be on the ground if Estonia was invaded.

The US Government is one of the great evils of the world, I won't deny it. I also can't control what it does; no American can.

I'm only discussing these things from the perspective of an average citizen. The US Government as well, needs to make the case to citizens why NATO is necessary for us.

They won't, because they do what they want, alas.

>If there's one thing you can trust the US Government on, it's that the US military would be on the ground if Estonia was invaded.
Except the NATO commander recently said Estonia can go fuck themselves because NATO can't move enough military hardware in time to that region.

Good luck protecting western values from muslims with Turkey.