Nationalism Thread

Tell me again Sup Forums, what is wrong with nationalism?

That looks like chocolate milk, son

Nothing

The greatest nations are those with multiculturalism.

Think UK, USA, Germany etc.

Shit tier countries like Lithuania and Zimbabwe lack multiculturalism.

That looks like a cup of freshly imported African dirt water.

Republicans are against clean water.

It teaches you to take pride in things you had no part of and hate people you've never met for no reason. It is also a tool of the elites to keep the population narrow minded and ignorant, therefore making them mindlessly supportive.

SAVAGE

Yum delicious apple juice is better than plain water

shut up faggot and make an actual argument instead of
>muh platitudes

Water is made by combining two elements and those elements are made of several different subatomic particles, not to mention molecular composition of the glass.

Terrible analogy.

Someone has to win, and 195 are going to lose.

Pretty much this

But the elites are very strongly pushing for globalism...

Nothing wrong with civic nationalists. It's ethnic nationalism that people don't like

This.

Western society is like Hydrogen, Islam is like Oxygen. Alone, Hydrogen and Oxygen are of little use. Together, they make H2O, the building block for life.

>The greatest countries are multicultural
>No Canada
KYS

Nothing. Nationalism is beautiful. Without nationalism there would be no entities to create diversity.

Correlation v Causation fallacy

Those great nations were capable of handling multiculturalism but it does not necessarily mean they became great due to multiculturalism. It is true that some civilisations do benefit from multiculturalism, the tech rush of sea side merchant towns in Mediterranean antiquity is a decent example, but in all these examples it was a mixing of like cultures. Whenever extremely disparate cultures were mixed, whether the Doric invasion of Greece, the Germanic invasion of western Europe or whatever other examples history gives us: a dark age occurs.

Let me repeat that, multiculturalism has already been proven by history to potentially lead to dark ages.

this, OP is fucking retarded

plus everyone is mixed to some extent.

>USA
>multicultural

You fool. Everyone shares the predominant "American" Culture above all there shitter country roots.

I guess the rape epidemic is just a negative byproduct then?

USA is not multicultural.

There is diversity within it's one American culture.

>What is Japan

>plus everyone is mixed to some extent.
Source?

>inb4 BBC

and then you take that...sequence of DNA or cogent society and mix it with random elements to create something potentially unstable, dysfunctional or useless.
I agree the analogy should be more like a bomb.

>Everyone shares the predominant "American" Culture

Thanks for confirming that. Good to know BLM is quintessentially American

No Zimbabwe is a multicultural society, they have no white people left, as the Leftist's intend to replicate elsewhere. Mugabe is a Marxist after all.

>implying
I want to see the world because of nationalism. I want to see what culture other countries cultivate. I want to have the experience that can only be provided by a people fostering a pride in their identity and their unique contributions to the world.

What fucking chocolate milk have YOU been drinking?

>Multiculturalism is good
>Europe infested with No-Go Zones
>European women being introduced to "multiculturalism" nightly by "refugees" and "migrants"
>Nationalist countries not having such problems

Just as muslims that share your streets and your coal burning late princess are British.

>pre-1960 America was worse off than it is now with multiculturalism

>whites make great countries
>shitskins then want in

The water on the left was filtered with info wars filter?

America was built on the backs of African slaves.

African Americans and Native Americans built a great country. Then the parasitic Europeans wanted in.

>America was built on the backs of African slaves.

>everyone is mixed to some extent.

Yeah! I'm less than one percent southern euro m'self.

Great, now I want a Vietnamese iced coffee but I can't get one without validating the multiculti.

muh cotton

if niggers didn't do it some other group would fill the slot

Countries that were great*
Multiculturalism is cancer

>multiculturalism- tasty but unhealth and unnatural
>nationalism- what your body needs and wants

small ethnic groups arent the same as multicult

The water on the right could have Amoebiasis, Shigellosis, Cholera, Cryptosporidiosis, Giardia, parasites and heavy metals that could kill me. You should use the infowars Propur-Water filter to clean it

>if niggers didn't do it some other group would fill the slot
It would have been Europeans. The only reason we chose blacks is because it's a lot harder to convince a poor European to go to a foreign country to live in servitude than it is to trade African tribes guns for already captured slaves. And that the Native Americans had no resistance to the diseases brought over from Europe.

>america was built on the backs of african slaves

America was built on the industrial revolution.

The body needs to take in lots of different nutrients to survive, just like a country needs to take in lots of different ethnicities and cultures to survive.

Nationalism is like trying to survive on bread alone

>harder to convince a poor European to go to a foreign country to live in servitud

What are indentured servants for $200 Alex

>just like a country needs to take in lots of different ethnicities and cultures to survive
But every country or Empire that has done this has collapsed...Literally every single one.

White guilt is the same logic you stupid shill

>Feel guilty for something you had no part in goyim, thats right, your people hurt all those innocent people... You should feel ashamed of yourself!

>Don't take pride in something great your ancestors did goyim! You had no part in what happened, you dont have the right to be proud!

Indentured servitude had a fixed amount of years. After that, you were a free man, and in many cases, you were given a plot of land to work for yourself. Slavery was indefinite. Try again.

IDIOTS IN THIS THREAD THINKING RACE AND CULTURES HAS TO DO WITH NATIONALISM

This isn't 600BC though, it's 2016.

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kys

Incorrect

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Indeed, and it's rather disturbing that after 2600 years of data, people still ignore it for feel good fallacies.

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>The body needs to take in lots of different nutrients to survive, just like a country needs to take in lots of different ethnicities and cultures to survive
>Nationalism is like trying to survive on bread alone
You're completely wrong, I have never seen someone so wrong, this is as deluded and retarded as it gets.
In all seriousness are you on disability support?

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Water has nutrients and minerals. Or have you only ever drank water from the tap?

>The body needs to take in lots of different nutrients to survive, just like a country needs to take in lots of different ethnicities and cultures to survive.
No. You don't need different ethnicities to survive. You need people fulfilling diverse roles and work for a nation to survive. Nutrients are there to make your body run efficiently. It's not there for the sake of diversity.

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All the greatest civilizations through out history were multicultural. Read a book.

IF YOU CAN'T ACCEPT MULTICULTURALISM LEAVE UNITED STATES NOW.

one culture isnt multicultural mongoloid

go down a black neighbourhood in your area and say something about no go zones

> How to weed out the shitskins: The Post.

nationalism pure volka? multiculturalism a cocktail that noone wants?

no one has ever explained WHY diversity is good. It's always just assumed hat "diversity is good." No one ever has a good answer either, except to not be labeled a "racist". Give me a good reason, or it's a sham.

take out the diversity in america and you get a homogeneous pile of shit in a cup no thanks

give a good reason why it isnt good?
i guess its not so much about diversity but looking tolerant

All great civilisations hated niggers. Read a book.
Then leave melbourne, then maybe get a job pov.

Different perspectives. Like a team of X people working with a team of Y people. That is the fruits of diversity.

Diversity is been hijacked by globalists to mean shoe horning individuals of different cultures into uncomfortably close proximity that inevitably causes destruction.

Diversity of backgrounds counts for jack shit. Diversity of perspectives and insights allows us to come to a more whole, well-rounded, view on complex issues.

The problem is that people sacrifice intellectual honesty and rigor for the sake of diversity, as if some random Paki's views on American politics is somehow just as valid as someone who's actually worked in politics.

Diversity means we better understand one another.

We see an amazing mix of cultures everyday, all of which have something to offer which we can learn from. For example, we have much to learn from the Indian culture about the value of family, or from Nigerian culture about the power of music and dance.

Division is what has led to wars in the past, when we start thinking of people from other countries as alien, rather than familiar fellow human beings.

We should aim to understand one another, build bridges not walls.

Playing devils advocate here
>diverse perspectives lead to the abilty to problem solve better, because the problem can be viewed in several different ways.
>multiculturalism also encourages different skill sets to arise, because different cultures have different values.

Diversity is good, which is why you try to keep out invasive species and keep different sorts from mixing

There is nothing wrong with nationalism, this is shill bait, fuck of and SAGE

not really. There are tons of total garbage cultures. Yet we're supposed to supplicate to them. It's stupid. Cultures that dishonor children or women or men, or science or religion. We're supposed to act like a garbage perspective is important or good? It's bullshit.

African "culture" is TOTAL garbage, why should we learn anything from it? Most of Middle East culture is total garbage. It's shit. Multiculturalist would have us learn and supplicate to their bullshit.

The subject of diversity being brought up is not relatable to the subject. The question was, >what is wrong with nationalism diversity can still be achieved with nationalism. nationalism is a patriotic feeling or belief. Why can't anyone coming to a country to seek asylum align themselves with the countries patriotic beliefs?

There is nothing wrong with nationalism, this is shill bait, fuck off and SAGE

Yeah fine learn about all those cultures from a distance, we can import music and couisine or whatever horseshit, doesn't mean we need to import the people into our homes and communities.

OP, we all know you're asking this question in the wrong place. Take this question to reddit/tumblr/facebook/youtube and get back to us with results.

How about the fact that Europe has never faced such an existential disaster, I emigrated from the UK in the late 90's, because unlike you and your loudmouthed, self loathing socialists I have seen Britain in her homogeneous glory, marveled at the content of being in a peaceful and harmonious society. I have also witnessed the destruction of our society, and was the first member of my family to leave London, our home of over 300 years, a city where a white Briton is now a minority. I hope all leftists feel firsthand the terror that they've enabled to thrive

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why does it negatively effect you? are you poorer as a result? f you hate socialism so much maybe you should move to a country where healthcare isn't free. maybe you should build your own roads. also britain has been pretty shit since ww2 so no you haven't seen it in its glory
btw not a socialist

The stupid thing is they're not mutually exclusive. You can have a multicultural society with a strong overall national identity.
The mixing of different cultural practices can be a good thing. It's segregation of cultural groups that leads to trouble.

>what is wrong with nationalism?

oh boy embargoes, inflation and trade wars here we come.

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>For example, we have much to learn from the Indian culture about the value of family, or from Nigerian culture about the power of music and dance.

We can learn literally any of this from looking inward on past European culture. (((Capitalism))) has eroded a lot of European culture over the years in the name of profit. Did you know they wanted to get rid of Christmas and Easter during the Industrial Revolution? They didn't get their way with those specific traditions, but they sure as hell got their way with a lot of other fucking traditions.

Also you don't need to let Indians and Nigerians into your country to learn from them. You can still trade and have friendly relations with other nations AND have a homogeneous nationalist state.

Absolutely nothing.

>islam = rape
this is why underage kids need to stay away from Sup Forums

>causes a majority of wars
>causes Genocide
>causes state violence
>etc

Try again you fucking sand nigger. You just named three countries that have an overwhelmingly white history and were just fine before shit skins started coming in. Multiculturalism has made all those white countries worse.

You are not British, you will never be British, you're a filthy dirty piece of shit. You're only not fighting other sand niggers in the desert right now because of pussies who suffer from white guilt.

fucking kek

>give a good reason why it isnt good?
That's not how it works. The people who make the claim that 'diversity is good', have to prove it. It isn't up to the other side to disprove it.

Not an argument. It has made the average western citizens morr unsafe and via massively unstable overpopulation yes it had made me poorer whilst renting in London. Your assumption that Britain has been bad since the 1940's is baseless, you are very poorly informed on politics and governance. Britain is the world's fifth largest economy, the native home of the lingua franca, and has the origin of modern democracy, justice, and innovation.
I moved to Canada in 2012 having lived in the US for many years. The US is less safe and more multicultural than Canada but essentially every western country has been negatively impacted by multiculturalism, so asking why I moved here is like burning down your neighbour's home and asking him why he now lives in a motel. >maybe you should build your own roads. That was the weakest argument I have ever seen on Sup Forums

>implying black areas aren't no go zones for most people

this is what i wanted. an argument.

when it comes to multiculturalism its not the diverse cultures that makes things bad but the influx of poor people. a rich Russian for example makes a much better migrant than a poor Russian

governments build roads, socialism is government doing/building stuff. all societys have a socialist aspect to them like it or not. just saying i hate you because i think you are a socialist is even more retarded

I hope you have never consumed anything resembling the liquid on the right while believing it was chocolate milk