RLM's Takedown on Rogue 1

Anyone else saw the movie with the commentary track yet? I thought they might have softened up on it with time, but if anything, they're more ruthless on it than they've ever been. They're right, too, but I still don't get why they didn't give TFA the same treatment.

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Rogue Drones BTFO

Reddit le Meme is objectively wrong

The Force Awakens was fun

why would i sit through gen x'ers making shitty sarcastic comments during the best star wars movie since Return of the Jedi?

>Love TFA despite flaws
>Hate R1 because of same flaws
>Daisy Ridley is charismatic as hell
>The biggest problem is that it didn't have BBC romance
>It works when JJ does it
>All Terrain vehicles should only be used in snowy terrain they make no sense on rough beach terrain
>Making a bad movie on purpose is bad
>Space Cop isn't bad it was bad on purpose you idiots

What contradicting statements will they come up with next?

ENDLESS TRASH

>movie about an orphan fighting an evil empire with the help of a space wizard and confronting the person that killed the orphans parents
>not REALLY star wars

>same flaws

It's like Sup Forums just revels in it's retardedness. I wish there was something as open and free as Sup Forums but with some semblance of intelligence.

I can't take these guys seriously for defending The Force Awakens while they shit on Rogue One. They've obviously been put into a corner and they're doubling down on their misguided initial hype reaction to TFA by shitting on R1, the actual decent Disney Star Wars movie. They are literally hack frauds. Can't stand Rich either. He's the walking personification of the manchildren he ridicules so much.

Why dont' they do this to TFA? Is it because they loved it? Jay found Daisy Ridley "charismatic as fuck".

I do think they overrated tfa but rogue one was absolute dog shit, maybe worse than some of the prequels, so can sort of see where they're coming from.

The problem that Rogue One has that Force Awakens didn't is that Rogue One is an irrelevant story. There is no tension because you know A must be A and B must be B. The plans must reach the rebels, but these smucks in the movie must get assfucked enough to be irrelevant in the real films.

The Force Awakens slips by because it was new and tricked you that maybe something might happen that's different in the sequel besides a black guy sticking his fucking monkey dong in some weird shitskin dude.

It's almost like they were paid off to ride TFA's dick, and now that the flagship movie has gotten off the ground they're free to shit on what follows.

TFA flaws
>Characters aren't that all fleshed out
>Ass pulls for Fan service
>Retroactively makes stuff in OT pointless

The common arguments for RO being bad
>Characters aren't all that fleshed out
>Ass pulls for fanservice
>Retroactively makes stuff from the OT pointless

But dude, it's totally different don't you see. I mean Rogue One depends on the plot of a previous movie so it's automatically shit, just like Empire Strikes back was.

That's why the prequels were the best, because they didn't rely on previous plot after all.

RO is really fucking boring and dull, though, for the sake of being gritty. TFA feels like Star Wars.

I don't actually believe this, that's just the argument RLM use

I like their idea of a Star Wars comedy film
where a con man sells them the crappy Jedi statue and young, unexperienced Yoda trusts him

>TFA feels like Star Wars
Remember when Han and Leia bantered? Now everyone does! ALL THE TIME

Preferable to "This is totally a war movie, guys"

RO was clichéd as fuck but its still miles above TFA

anyone who unironcially thinks TFA is good has shit taste and should off themselves

>too much war in Star Wars

Did you even listen the commentary track? Mike played fucking dungeons and dragons. What a fucking pathetic loser, all his opinions are invalidated by this fact.

>STOP LIKING WHAT I DON'T LIKE

i watched the movie for the first time today with low expectations and i listened to the commentary track after
and holy shit were they right

Rogue one is a Star Wars movie that is trying to be gritty with no real substance

The characters are irrelevant to the main story
You don't see ANY character Arc
Movie is filled with cliches
The story itself is irrelevant because we know what is going to happen
The action sequences are just okay

Sup Forums was wrong and RLM was right.

The original Star Wars movies aren't war movies, you dolt.

>Did you even listen the commentary track?
lol no. who has the time in this day & age

R1 is fucking boring and dull. That final scene where they all die has no impact cos there is no reason to give a shit about them, they weren't likeable or relatable.

I genuinely believe you should get hit by a truck.

I can't believe that tv is suddenly in love with rogue one only a week after it was released, just so they could hate on tfa.

TFA is watchable. R1 is not.

The setting of the franchise is a god damn galaxy ruled by a totalitarian regime, WAR is 50% of the title. If anything R1 is closer to the source material.

B-but it relies on knowing the story of Star Wars. That's ridiculous, it's too obscure of a story!

>not being rich
>being a wageslave

You're right, since liking movies is now a science they should not be allowed to disagree with your formula for what their own preferences are.

I'm just saying it is a little hypocritical to not at least acknowledge they have similar flaws.

Why are they so obsessed with Rogue One?

>tv

Except none of the original movies are anything remotely close to being war movies. Rogue One is without a doubt the farthest Star Wars movie from the source material in the entire series.

>I still don't get why they didn't give TFA the same treatment
I think it's because too many people were saying it was better than ep VII or that it was the best star wars film yet

because tv (and /ourguy/ Max Landis) btfo'd them and they can't handle it

Remember that time when they collected an armada to assault the death star while simultaneously leading a ground assault on Endor?

Man that wasn't very warlike at all.

I'm guessing they liked tfa more cause it was more passable, after the prequels the movie only had to be decent for the majority to like it, so they were more blinded by it.

Though once R1 came out they still defended it. I think Jay, or maybe Mike, said Ridley was charismatic as hell. I don't know how anyone could think that, she was very eh. Finn was more charismatic, though quite annoying

What about the time they were besieged by a larger army on an ice planet and had to retreat

>They're right, too
They were pretty much wrong about everything they said about Rogue One in the Half in the Bag episode. I'm not going to watch this commentary seeing as how it's more of the same unfounded opinions with stupid reasoning.

>TFA is watchable

ahahahahahahaah

>mary sue to the max
>a tired harrison ford who clearly didn't want to be there
>orange yoda
>the ugliest congo nignog who can somehow use a lightsaber
>literally the same rehashed shit that was in ANH

it was insulting, patronising garbage, KYS

the new star wars movies are superhero dramas

the originals were actual films

*children fantasy films

>Daisy Ridley is charismatic as hell

I actually agree

>the originals were actual films
the originals were expensive ads for toys

Or when all those rebel soldiers were killed in a last-ditch suicide mission attempting to secure the escape of a VIP holding top-secret information in the very first scene of the first movie?

Still better than the prequels. At least I cared about what was happening.

TFA was a very well made film, it had nogs and womyn in it so it gets shit on here, but it was excellently paced, had great visuals, and introduced new and likeable characters.

Rogue One was a sloppily put together film, visually it's brilliant and the third-act is great, but the entire first third is a mess and the writing is atrocious.

I forgot they engaged in trench warfare at the ice planet

David Lynch should direct a new Star Wars film, without any studio influence
Think Lost Highway or Mulholland Drive

They have so much fucking money
Why can't they throw 50-100 mil for something truly unique and new, that challenges the viewer?

>Mary Sue

I'm disappointed anons, I thought you would get more creative than the most overused dumb youtube-comments-tier argument about that character.

How about that time when the name of the movie had the word "Wars" in it?

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>new and likeable characters

you mean -character-. Finn was ironically the only semi likeable one

>movie named Star Wars
>only contains one war

The characters were so likable. Only misogynist anons hate it because the main character was a woman. Unlike in Rogue One.

Yes, there is war in the movies but that doesn't mean they are about war.

We get it, it's a children's story set in a war setting. Which is what both TFA and R1 are.

The problem is that R1 is a war story set in a children's setting. It got the words mixed up.

>Scene on Yavin 4 where the plot is explained directly to the audience
>Blather on about a Star Wars horror movie
>Scene ends
>Immediately start complaining about how they don't understand the plot

They don't understand because they aren't paying attention.
They aren't paying attention because they don't care.
They don't care because the movie is not engaging or interesting.

No, rogue one is about a little girl getting over her daddy issues in the middle of a galactic war. Just like TFA and ANH

dey should have sayd to the chinese guy "DATS NOT HOW DA FORCE WEEERKS YOU NUMBSKULL!" BOIIINNG

>jyn goes from not caring about the rebellion to fighting for the cause, even when nobody else would
>mexican is a merciless killer, but then has a change of heart and believes there is hope
>pilot begins as a treacherous coward but slowly musters up the balls and becomes courageous when shit hits the fan
>krennick grows more and more ruthless because of his ambitions, which in the end is the very thing that results in his own demise
There is plenty of character development in the film. Were you paying any attention or are you simply pretending to have seen the flick?

>RLM was right.
Oh. You're a fucking parrot.

The biggest flaw with R1 is that it's boring. I fell asleep the first time I watched it.

RLM are wrong about TFA being ok, it's not, but mostly right about R1.

Mike actually had some good ideas about how they could have made R1 an actual good movie.

>pilot begins as a treacherous coward but slowly musters up the balls and becomes courageous when shit hits the fan
I never seen that level of grasping at straws and overinterpretation probably since BvS threads. And these guys were mostly ironic.

>MFW literally fell asleep while watching the movie + commentary track
I guess they've got a point, although I partly blame it on Mike going on boring tangents too

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At least RLM get star wars. Not these millenial faggots with a distorted understanding of what star wars is. It's not this fucking nerd shit that you read in your sticky novels and comic books. It's about the characters. That's why TFA and OT are better than the prequels and Rogue one.

Empire Strikes Back is overrated.

How many Star Trek tangents does he go on?

Only one, actually.

Only if you are a stupid millennial who doesn't understand the meaning of star wars

>Two more hours on this.

RLM will NEVER get over the disagreement with their Rogue One review. Its consumed them.

I disagree with them. i thought Rogue one was much better than TFA.

>it takes decades of fluoride exposure to understand the meaning of star wars

thanks for explaining m8

>Rogue One the same as The Phantom Menace
>Attack of the Clones not the lowest of low
You have a terrible opinion.

Sup Forums will never get over it. RLM doesn't care.

All reviewers should be executed.

yeah its too much fun to keep twisting the knife and milking more butthurt out of clueless faggots like you

StarWars=Empire>Jedi>1>2>3>TFW>Rogue

Why do reddit letter media drones get so upset when you disagree with their masters opinions?

>TFA that high
sup reddit

RLM are professional critics.

Then Reddit is right this time. Sup Forums is wrong. TFA was a good film. Only faggots with social issues who spend their whole time reading star wars novels and playing kotor hate TFA.

>TFA was a good film
nice try disneyshill

That too is reddit though.

With how fucking broad reddit is, all opinions would be on there somewhere.

But it was still shit just like RO. Why did they suck TFA's dick for?

They bought into the hype and refuse to admit they fucked up.

>not retroactively backing out of their opinion, when popular consensus changes
>bad thing

>The characters are irrelevant to the main story
Wrong

>You don't see ANY character Arc
Yes you do, Cassim learning that killing isn't enough and you have to trust other people, Jyn learning the truth about her father, the chink who learned to accept the fate the force choose

>Movie is filled with cliches
Every movie after 1920 is filled with cliches

>The story itself is irrelevant because we know what is going to happen
95% of movies would fall into this category, yet people were still suprised everyone died at the end of Rogue One

>The action sequences are just okay
They are better then the average action scenes in star wars, and way and above other films with 'action'

Why do Sup Forums drones get so upset when you disagree with their autistic opinions?

thank you

Don't trust Sup Forums on anything remotely popular.

>people still watching redditlettermedia
Just fuck off famalam

ROTS should be the bottom brain.

TFA is good though

>the new star wars movies are superhero dramas
>the originals were actual films
How can you say that when they are structurally identical.