WHY DIDN'T YOU LISTEN?

slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/cover_story/2016/07/vladimir_putin_has_a_plan_for_destroying_the_west_and_it_looks_a_lot_like.html

>Is Donald Trump Working for Russia?

nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/07/donald-trump-working-for-russia.html

>Trump campaign guts GOP’s anti-Russia stance on Ukraine

washingtonpost.com/opinions/global-opinions/trump-campaign-guts-gops-anti-russia-stance-on-ukraine/2016/07/18/98adb3b0-4cf3-11e6-a7d8-13d06b37f256_story.html

>It's Official: Hillary Clinton Is Running Against Vladimir Putin

theatlantic.com/international/archive/2016/07/clinton-trump-putin-nato/492332/

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alternet.org/right-wing/trumps-troubling-similarities-osama-bin-laden
counterpunch.org/2016/03/10/hillary-clinton-the-queen-of-chaos-and-the-threat-of-world-war-iii/
original.antiwar.com/justin/2016/07/21/trump-enrages-war-party/
youtube.com/watch?v=mqUUlBwtKNs
reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/4tfgbq/promoted_subreddits/
twitter.com/NSFWRedditGif

What happened to him being Hitler, is he still Hitler?

>((Foer)) was born in 1974 to a Jewish family.

This memeing son of a bitch is literally Hitler
Russians love him and basically we're all gonna die

not an argument

i wonder who else is on the dnc mailing list

NO HE'S A COMMIE, PLEASE BELIEVE ME !!1!!. I AM RIGHT GOOO....GUYS, YOU NEED TO VOTE FOR HILLARY, SO WE... I MEAN, SO YOU HAVE A STABLE COMMUNIST FREE FUTURE

Both candidates are actually pretty ok for us
Trump is moderate and clinton is very easy to bribe

you guys enjoying that uranium?

>ukraine

no such thing

You're right, it's a fact. That fact happens to be enough to confirm we shouldn't listen to Franklin (((Foer)))

>unironically linking unarchived slate and wapo

Yes, absolutely. He is also, Hugo Chavez, Pnochet, Osama bin Laden, Stalin, Mussolini and Kim Jong-il.

alternet.org/right-wing/trumps-troubling-similarities-osama-bin-laden

I'd prefer Russians controlling us than Jews

Seriously, though. Hillary as State Sec has been psuhing for war against Russia, partially against Obama's desires. Putin does not want war, and Russia doesn't even have invasion armies.

Those are warmonger magazines.

counterpunch.org/2016/03/10/hillary-clinton-the-queen-of-chaos-and-the-threat-of-world-war-iii/

Trump is the Russia-first candidate. That would be a problem in most countries but US politicians are already Israel-first so this is a slight improvement.

Clinton will continue everything that the Obama administration is doing though, Trump actually wants to reverse that.

But remember when Obama in 2012 said that Russia was an ally, that Romney was stuck in the 60s, and he reversed all of that. So there are no guarantees, but I trust Trump a lot more than I ever did Obama.

Hopefully we can finally have real cooperation and stop loading up troops on your guys' borders, and you can stop hacking and sending spies.

I'm not saying vote for Hillary. 2 wrongs don't make a right

Trump is still bad news bears

Pretty good article delighting in all this rage

original.antiwar.com/justin/2016/07/21/trump-enrages-war-party/

Obama didn't want war but Clinton and Nuland do. Since Obama is ust a man, Clinton got to push for war with Russia.

A normal person would consider avoiding war to be putting your own country first.

forgot pic

AHAHAHAHAHAHA

Hillary fags are going crazy!

stormtards leave

slate is usually nonsense but foer is a credible journalist and the article is worth reading

control yourself

Trump is Putin himself. He's like Fantomas using rubber mask and voice-morpher. It's a vcommon knowledge her in Russia.

I wonder who is behind these posts

>Here Trump has stumbled on the dirty little secret of the post-World War II security architecture so beloved by our elites: for the privilege of paying for their defense, and in effect militarily occupying our allies-cum-satellites, we allow them to flood our markets with tariff-free goods, while they wall off their markets with trade barriers and subsidies. As the Old Right economist and prophet of empire Garet Garrett put it at the dawn of the cold war, it’s a peculiar sort of empire in which “everything goes out and nothing comes in.”

I really like this article. Why do some Americans care so very much about x killing y in some distant continent that you have to spend trillions on it?

>giving them your clicks
>ever

Based putin becomes our proxy leader.
I wouldn't mind.

>Putin does not want war

she did want that no fly zone over Syria though

They just can't fathom the notion that people might want to work with Russia rather than against them. How is it in America's interest to throw a tantrum over events in Eastern Europe?

EVERYONE against system is a Russian puppet to the media. Just today the media reported Slovakian Kotleba is also allegedly working for Putin.

These people just cannot comprehend people could actually have different views to theirs.

just a coincidence

>America's interests are to die for foreign powers who don't give us resources or cash but expect us to fight their battles

Look at the pro-EU posters who want to trade in their centuries-old identities for a greater share of world domination. This erosion began decades earlier in the US and imperial identity is all some people have left.

>article is worth reading
>puitn wants a land war

No, because the last thing the U.S. needs right now is greater tension with Russia.

The U.S. military has a difficult time struggling with COIN operations and our commitments abroad. A land war with Russia is a waste of time that accomplishes nothing.

Why the hell would we want to fight the Russians and waste billions of dollars and millions of lives in another conflict that risks trashing the western world even more?

I'm not a Hillary supporter

also, try actually addressing the argument

>being this paranoid and small-minded

Lol they are trying the scary russian meme on the old people. 90% of people legit scared of russia are dead and boomer conservatives don't care about russia

Says the guy who thinks Putin is out to get him

the truth is of paramount importance

not advertising dollars

or you could actually read the articles and see there is a ton of evidence

tension is here whether you like it or not

deal with it

THere is not a single indication he does. Before the tensions arose, Russia did not even have armies in the western front. Only 2014 was an army established there.

Apart from liberal projections of their own bloodthirst.

just read the articles

also,

Anything from washingtonpost is to be disregarded.
They are coordinating with the Clinton campaign.

>he's racist
>he's sexist
>he's fascist
>he's Islamophobic
>he's crazy
>he's Nazi
>he's Hitler

no, no, no, I take that back

>he is secretly a Russian spy

is this seriously the new story they're going to be telling people?

is this the latest scare tactic these people all got together to write articles about simultaneously, in the desperate hope that it will convince some gullible moron not to vote in their own best interest, which is Trump?

The tension is here because Obama admin has been creating it. All the US has to do is stop fucking with Russia and stop supporting islamists in Syria. Then there is no tension.

Point taken.

we tried to warn them...

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what do you think russia stands to gain from war with the US? they'd get shitcanned faster than you can say "dasvidaniya" and if it escalated to a nuclear conflict everyone loses

I was listening to an interview, and some woman called in, shrieking about how "Putin is like Hitler" because "he doesn't allow gays in Russia".

Totes worth risking a nuclear war. Of course, Saudi-Arabia doesn't count, they good goys.

sure

sure

>Cold war tier propaganda
>Hillbots and the MSM are this desperate

Oh i am laffin

This article is fucking awesome, thanks user

But hill shills will use any attack they can get against Trump, true or otherwise. What they say has no correlation with the truth. All that means is that you can't rely on shills to get all your information for you, you have to look for yourself.

see

I think it's more like Putin doesn't want a "hot" war. Putin and the West are already in a new "cold" war (or hybrid warfare) with propaganda, immigration, and influencing elections.

all four of these articles are complete horseshit smear jobs and full of lies. yes, I read them. the Atlantic article is based entirely upon the outright lie that Donald Trump will refuse to honor the USA's NATO obligations.

The WaPo article doesnt the same thing but corroborates its with the fact that Trump's staffers caused slight rewrite in the GOP's foreign policy platform to make it less in line with neoconservative nation builders and in favor of a policy that is literally in lockstep with the current administration, and then quotes a bunch of neocon policy makers that are butthurt that Trump won't let them unleash the military industrial complex the way they've always wanted to. Nobody is calling Obama an "agent of Putin," because that would be fucking stupid.

Foer's hit piece contains literally no incriminating facts whatsoever. All it does is throw a bunch of shadows around saying that Trump "could" be receiving support from Putin secretly, and that Trump's campaign "looks similar" to movements propped up by Putin, without introducing even a single shred off evidence to suggest that it is actually happening.

The NYMag shill just refers to the Slate article and then says "oh this doesn't look good!! COULD it BE that he's SECRETLY RUSSKIE????"

it's the exact same of "could it be, could it possibly be?" bullshit that these fucking two bit political rags have been forced to put out about Trump since day zero, because there is actually not a singletons speck of real, significant mud on the man.

don't post your shit here again.

also some context for Trump and Putin in these:

yeah, the proxy war is already in full swing in Syria, but I think Putin wants to improve relations with the US to get the west off his back

Honestly, why do you stand with her? What about Hillary makes you support her?

A strong Russia is good for a strong America.

It'd be like the Cold War except we'd be on the same side.

Fuck China.

Yeah that's a good point the cold war is already hot with the proxy wars (I think Ukraine counts too). It doesn't look like he wants to improve relations though (or that's a politically correct way to say it). I think he wants to further his diplomacy through hybrid warfare and causing fear in the West, taking a page from Clausewitz.

>not an argument
Do you even know where you are?

>leftist sites are suddenly pro-war and pro-NATO

Literally the fastest turnaround shilling I've seen.

Why is everyone trying to use 'Russia' and 'Putin' as a scaremongering tactic? Getting tired of it

youtube.com/watch?v=mqUUlBwtKNs

>A;LSDJKABPOIDJPOAIDSJNIVOLARSJDGOLKBJSPODIFB RUSSIA
>t. media
This isn't 1982 anymore

You can't bribe this bitch enough to stop her from going to war. She's an ideological true believer, not just a mere criminal.

My conspiracy theory: they were waiting for his final speech to see if he would tone-down the rhetoric that terrifies fringe-left black and hispanic separatists and fuels domestic terrorism. Instead he went all-in race war, and now they are leaking part of the reasons why.

>why didn't you listen

Because you lied then and you're lying now

>2012
Romney is an idiot for saying Russia is an adversary

>2016
Trump is an idiot for wanting detente with Russia

I want Trump to be President because I hate NATO. Him dissolving it (unthinkable desu) would be great for Europe. Brexit was the first gift, Trump the second and a United mainland Europe the third.

Global power Anglo-bitches.

it's true doe

I hate Sup Forums's pro-Russian stance

The only reason you guys like them is because "muh anti-degeneracy", but they have no mercy for the Western Nations.

Your open support of Russia is pseudo-Treason, and in a year when we are in open warfare with them, Trump or Nay, you'll all serve prison time til the end of the war is signed.

How will he order the navy to shoot down Russian jets if they no longer send ships to the Baltic sea?

40 years of both parties being war mongering Israel-firsters. Once I got into an argument with a cuckservative friend about spending less money on the military and he said that I wanted Iran to get nukes to nuke Israel with.

>((((((((slate))))))))

>le Putin is the "bad guy" meme

amazing argument.

read and then fuck off

I think it's fine, with one correction: support Russia, but STOP PUTIN

Russian interests align more closely with the American people's than our own government's interest do. Supporting our American government is treason to the soul of this nation

Fuck Trump

Why do Russia and the West have to be enemies?

nice proxy lol

My country gets shelled daily by Russia, so I'd support even Satan himself if only he fucks russians up

Russians are winning and whoever is elected won't make a difference.
Sleazy billionare/reality TV star or corrupt and incompetent neoliberal old hag.
Neither will do anything to tackle systematic problems of USA.
Short of starting nuclear war, America will grow more and more impotent.

> make america great again
> while sitting on kremlin's cock

Makes sense

>My country gets shelled daily by Russia
Thats a lie.

not sure man, I think I see some good points in there but you're falling into the "the source is from the other team so you should dismiss it entirely" habit that lets corrupt politicians get away with everything.

And you shouldn't conclude Trump is 100% definitely a Putin puppet either. I think we should look for evidence to understand how seriously we need to take this. Evidence I know off the top of my head:

> Trump has longstanding connections with Russia, sympathetic to the Soviet Union in the 80's
> Russian mob boss Felix Sater kept courting Trump to build hotels in Moscow
> Paul Manafort cleaned up campaign of Putin puppet Viktor Yanukovych before moving on to Trump
> Trump's advisor and potential VP pick Micheal Flynn was a U.S. general who defected to Russia and became a correspondent for RT
> Trump's foreign policy on Brexit, Ukraine, Syria, and NATO are strongly in Putin's interests
> Trump fits in with the world-wide pattern of rising Nationalism (with sprinkles of facism) in U.S. allies (particularly Marine Le Penne who was caught taking Putin's money)
> Trumps statements fuel racial conflict and instability in the U.S.
> Trumps internet "shadow campaign" has been suspiciously pro-Brexit, pro-Le Penne, and anti-NATO. See reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/4tfgbq/promoted_subreddits/

enough circumstantial evidence isn't a reason to believe this 100% and declare ware on Russia. But it IS a reason to take this seriously.

The only issues the US should try to interfere with globally are environmental. Maybe Russian values are opposed to US values, but why is that a problem we have to solve?

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>DONLAD TRUMP WORKS FOR RUSSIA
>DONALD TRUMP IS HITLER
>DONALD TRUMP IS DARKNESS
>DONALD TRUMP VOTERS ARE UNEDUCATED
>TRUMP YOURSELF, WITH THIS TRUMP MEME GENERATOR
>TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP, PLEASE HATE HIM GUYS, PLEASE
Someone should shoot hillary in the cunt

3 words

Modern
Western
Society

even better: take them all down and we can maybe finally have some peace...

Shoot her in the fucking mouth to shut her the fuck up forever.

nah, this goes way back

see einstein's quote on ww3/ww4

Implying pootin isn't main supporter of wannabe-nazis.
Btw does 1968 tell you anythig?
Obama was the one who pushed "reload"
For most territories ruled by moscow govt a state of war woulnd't be much different from current situation. But US will collapse because niggers and hipsters got used to easy living.