Shitty performance vs shitty team

>shitty performance vs shitty team
>suddenly favorites

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How many CLs have City won?

It's not about history; it's about now

Like Chiellini said, experience plays a huge part.

CL favourites is based entirely on which of the frontrunners has the easiest tie

Last round Barca, Real and PSG had hard ties whilst City had an easy one
This round City and Real have hard ties whilst Barca has an easy one

Bayern isn't being rated because they've played nobody good since the managerial change.

>shitty performance
fucking poo peeland

Not it doesn't; Tottenham lost because Poch is overrated and they team is filled with chokers

Chelsea's expected goals were higher than Barcelona; Courtois and the refs fucked us

they played against PSG

On paper, Tottenham are one of the best in the world.

>us
>1 (one) botched call when you were already down

When was the last time a favorite won a title?

Real will win again

No, they lost because they didn't know how to counter whatever Allegri improvised. An experienced team would've switched to 4-5-1 and went through, they kept playing the same way and were outnumbered in the midfield. The same thing awaits Juventus if they haven't learned from last year.

PSG were already through as group winners, it was a nothing game for them

Like when City beat an already through Bayern a season or two ago

And like I said, Poch is holding them back. If the players are good enough to be winning but they aren't, the manager is the bottleneck

>Like Chiellini said, experience plays a huge part.
then Real will obviously crush them having won 3 finals in 4 years, why do they bother showing up?

History is vastly over rated, or to be correct it's the wrong word for "not being afraid of winning".

Last year

That logic is flawed as fuck, Real had plenty of experience of winning the final, once against Juventus itself, yet they can't get past them unless it's the final match. The final is a reset of everything happening prior to it, the most experienced team at winning the final usually wins, with extremely rare exceptions.

kek

>Busquets out of the first leg
>"Just give them Roma LMAO"
Based UEFA

Would you rather watch Roma vs Liverpool?

Yes?

fuck yes

Juventus fucked real madrid in a semifinal in 2015, and played two finals. The thing is juventus is the cl choke final master and real madrid the opposite. Both teams are equally experience in two legs knock out stages, juve could win this.

Man, this kiwi is so retarded. Should fuck off back to /rug/

>yet they can't get past them unless it's the final match

>Juventus has only managed to beat real madrid once in their last 5 CL meetings, in a 2-1 victory at home. (1-2-2 record)
>Ronaldo has scored 7 goals in those 5 meetings, with 2 in the 2017 CL final

Juve is weaker defensively than they were last year, playing against a team they historically struggle to beat, who has a player who never fails to score against them. that, PLUS the fact Ronaldo is having another record setting CL season...

I mean i'm not writing them off completely, but it doesn't look good

>juventus fucked real madrid in a semifinal in 2015

kek, yeah winning 3-2 on agg with a 2-1 win at home via a penalty is really "fucking" the other team