>he doesn't know that Nietzsche was strongly anti-nationalist >he doesn't know that Nietzsche was strongly against anti-Semitism >he follows the beliefs of a man who spent his whole life arguing against compassion, while his last move while sane was to hug an abused horse >he follows the belief of a man who advocated homosexuality (or any other sexual degeneracy for that matter) as long as you were "seeking your goal"
Some of you need to drop the Nietzsche faggotry, basically the only reason this fag is idolised is because Hitler used the basis of his Superman ideas to create a new biological ideal, very different from Nietzsche's.
Nietzsche's views were for affluent people, not miserable worms like you. So if you subscribe to his views, you accept your worm status, faggot. Fuck off with your smartassery
Joshua Torres
>Fuck off with your smartassery Typical Polish response to someone they find that holds a correct view which they happen to disagree with.
Ethan Turner
>strongly against anti-semitism. Some of his work reads like mein kampf
Jeremiah Peterson
I don't think I've ever seen him posted on this board. Get fucked.
Thomas Rogers
He was literally the ultimate edgelord
Lincoln Reyes
you conveniently avoided the most important part of my argument
If there are elephants and roaches in society, to whom do you think Nietzsche's views apply? And which of these are you?
Who can use more power? An elephant or a roach ?
Hudson Thompson
He didn't argue against compassion, you are misrepresenting him
Based NEETzsche
Thomas Butler
After his death, Elisabeth Förster-Nietzsche became the curator and editor of her brother's manuscripts, reworking Nietzsche's unpublished writings to fit her own German nationalist ideology while often contradicting or obfuscating his stated opinions, which were explicitly opposed to antisemitism and nationalism. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friedrich_Nietzsche
Your angry reaction shows that you do hold views from Nietzsche's writings, proving my point.
Funnily enough, it seems that only roaches, not elephants, hold onto his view in this modern age. The elephants which you speak of would be more suited to Machiavelli.
Landon Morris
Didn't he argue that Jesus and Christianity were invented by the Jews to overthrow the Roman/European value system?
Seems pretty red pill to me.
Jordan Garcia
>Your angry reaction shows that you do hold views from Nietzsche's writings, proving my point. I have an angry reaction, so I hold his views? How does that follow at all?
Jaxon Brown
Oh shit, I'm so sorry dude. You're actually critical of him and I automatically thought that you're yet another Sup Forums edgelord. My criticism stays, but apparently not for you
Michael Moore
Don't care, I think his whole thing on master/slave morality was genius. Mussolini was also a big fan of Nietzsche. Pretty sure fascism and national socialism wouldn't exist without him.
Cameron Torres
>Machiavelli
Ok so you're 16
Cameron Thomas
fuck off worms im polish and offended.
Grayson Sanders
You're a moron who probably hasn't even read him based on that embarrassing misreading. He doesn't argue against any kind of compassion, he seeks a unique fusion of master and slave moralities. I like Nietzsche a lot more than I like you or Sup Forums, which is mostly made up of edgy fourteen years olds rather than classically trained philosophers. Yes he's an elitist and doesn't believe in egalitarianism or collectivism, but he's also a staunch individualist who's critical of herd animals like you, and his arguments are much more intelligent and entertaining. Nietzsche could advocate for mandatory dildo training in preschools and I would still enjoy reading his books
By the way, you forgot his admiration for Islam
Jacob Evans
His whole theory was centred around opposition to Christianity based on his belief that compassion for the poor led to an overall weakness of society and towards contentment, which hindered cultural growth. In other words, NEETS get shot by the Ubermensch for the greater good.
There's little chance of that, saying that he would have seen first hand the anti-semetism of Christianity in Europe at that time.
Why would you angrily defend something that you disagree with? Unless, of course, there's something severely wrong with you.
Fascists used his concepts to create an altogether different concept altogether. For example, you could use the layout of Das Kapital to create a book supporting fascism, that wouldn't make you a Karl Marx supporter, would it?
Justin Rodriguez
>only roaches, not elephants Actually he's the most influential philosopher of contemporary times. He goes well hand in hand with liberalism
John Locke divided people into "industrious" and "quarrelsome and contentious"
Nietzsche's emphasis on strength and will, was really an encouragement for individualism and ruthlessness
The problem is that Sup Forums edgelords don't know that his ideas don't apply to roaches of the social ladder. Every edgelord and smartassery end up with one thing - STATOLATRY
Because elephants encouraged to use strength usually run states. And roaches who fall for the cult of strength can't really exercise it in any way or defend themselves!
This is why the scottish police is hunting for the roaches who use Twitter and express their views!
Jaxon Reed
>master/slave morality was genius This.
What you say is true op but they are details comapared to his insight into The Genealogy of Morals.
Jaxson Williams
I didn't defend him. I just said I never saw him on this board, (i.e., never mentioned). Seriously, fuck off.
Camden Wright
I'm not saying that he's completely wrong in all he's saying, but what I am saying is that supporting the man in everything he said is wrong and pretty silly.
Lucas Bennett
He literally dropped his friend Richard Wagner because of his views on Jews.
Daniel Sanders
Soooomeone's getting aaangry....
Cameron Ward
I don't think anyone does that. At the end of the first part of Thus Spake Zarathustra, he actually says that he hopes the reader is disagreeing with some of the stuff he's saying and forming their own opinions.
Isaiah Butler
Fuck nationalism and fuck you. I'm not fighting another pointless war because retards get obsessed over boundaries on maps. All that matters is youre family friends and local community.
Nathaniel Ross
You'd be surprised by the number of edgelords who treat him like an almighty prophet.
Actually, nationalism could include isolationism which would stop all wars taking place outside of the nation, including border expansion. But I'm guessing this is bait.
Luis Harris
I'm not angry. Nothing you've said makes any sense and you're just shitposting. Calling me angry doesn't rectify how illogical you'be been up until now.
Meh, even Hitler said schopenhauer understood things better than Nietzsche. Schopenhauer is the father of fascism honestly.
Wyatt Long
Talking about earlier stuff like beyond good and evil you pathetic worm
Luke Garcia
>which would stop all wars taking place outside of the nation countries should operate through unions, associations and contracts
Like the UK or Poland-Lithuania in the past
Joshua Collins
I dunno, you seem pretty angry to me.
Schopenhauer is the father of defeatism, not fascism. >don't bother trying to improve yourself, the suffering isn't worth it >we should all live life with the minimal amount of suffering (basically drugged out of our minds) >it is a mistake to be born
Yeah, or that.
Mason Edwards
Again, I'm not angry and that doesn't rationalize anything you've said up until now.
Brayden Bennett
>up until now Well, I'm glad to hear that I'm finally able to rationalise something. Good, what's the next step?
Asher Carter
When did I imply that?
Jeremiah Perez
You said "up until now" which would imply that I wasn't rationalising anything in the past but now I've finally managed to grasp it. Thanks again for your compliment.
Lincoln James
I wasn't implying that.
Joshua Williams
I'm pretty sure you were. Is this another test?
William Jenkins
I wasn't. "Up until now," doesn't imply that it has ended. I even said I wasn't angry, directly contradicting what you said.
Jordan Cruz
That sounds great actually
He was compassionate toward the Ubermench
Xavier Rodriguez
Is that you, Blackshirt13?
Charles Bell
>ywn have a mustache as magnificent as Nietzsche's
Cameron Cruz
He's the most influential philosopher of edgy teenagers.
Christopher Garcia
Übermensch is anyone who succeeds in completing their desires which could include homosexuality or anything else, including the destruction of the white race. He discarded the morals of Christianity and thus he wouldn't have cared less about gays or race mixing.
Liam Hughes
What?
Cameron Rodriguez
wait, who's Nietzsche?
Chase Campbell
Geez, no need to get so mad. I was only asking.
Ryan Lewis
Fuck you Nietzche predicted this whole western shitshow more than hundred years ago Thats what he meant by the death of God, absolutely brilliant
Jason Peterson
He was a bit late. Atheism had already begin to creep in much before that. It wouldn't have taken a genius to work that out.
Benjamin Russell
Nietzsche was a god among flies you snaggle tooth faggot. Respect your betters.
Robert Richardson
I'll take being "snaggle tooth faggot" over being an insane wreck who was locked up in an asylum.
Chase Cruz
In terms of the whole compassion thing, he argued against it in a more libertarian/egoist sense
Basically be compassionate if you want, but it won't necessarily make you an ubermensch unless you do it with your own set of values
Dude was an amoralist, would make sense for him to say compassion is necessarily a bad thing
He's just arguing Christianity has made it a virtue that encourages pitiful existences
Hunter Parker
wouldn't make sense*
Chase Flores
>that encourages pitiful existences Strange for the guy saying this, seeing that he was bedridden for the last years of his life with his sister giving him the help he needed to survive.
Isaac Brown
Congratulations you understand one of the reasons why Nietzsche is facinating and sad
Basically all his philosophizing is his projecting of a better existence that fully appreciated life that he wanted but could never have because of his fraility
Call him pathetic, you're not wrong, but his life is a bit more than that and his ideas are still of great merit
And it is his great thoughts that are indicative of such a daring, and resilient mind
So in my view that mind of his makes him great and deserving of praise in this regard
James Cooper
Sure. I agree with this, in the same regard to Karl Marx.
Hudson Hall
Cheers then m8
Ryan Morgan
He had the hots for his wife actually. His sister did nothing, her husband however..... The critique of modern man is atrociously accurate. Hollow, liberal leaning, bourgeois, wealthy, apathetic, materialist, atheistic, non-spiritual, Needs to be finished off or revived.
Henry Stewart
>Dude was an amoralist
Doubt it. They called him the moral meister of his village always preaching good in the face of the degenerates. The local boys kicked his ass a few times because of his moralizing. He was a Christian too.
Will Durant has a fascinating biography of Nietzsche.
Liam Roberts
even if he did say that the nazis and hitler were christians and being against christianity is degenerate so yeah
Mason Anderson
Nietzsche was Sup Forums in the late 19th century. He was Sup Forums in one fucking person. If we were in the 19th century now we would dislike nationalism and anti-semitism too, probably, because we, like Nietzsche, are fucking contrarians.
But you are right with the Übermensch thing. It's completely different from how we use that word today and how Hitler understood it.
Still. Give it a read. Start with Thus Spoke Zarathustra. Very Sup Forums like. Extremely short chapters with bold views and quite funny, even.
