Debate me holocaust deniers
Debate me holocaust deniers
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who cares if it was real or not? Germans are obviously sub humans who should have been wiped out after WW2
>one man invents stories
>therefore holocaust was a lie
>who cares if it was real or not? Germans are obviously sub humans who should have been wiped out after WW2
Agree with you.
On what? The scale, scope and breadth of the event? If it was a intentional genocide or the consequences of imprisoning people in a resource deprived nation? If every single story was true?
Gotta be more specific friendo
>Portugal
One man lied about it. The fucks the big deal here? We often have false rape allegations, it doesn't mean that raoe doesn't exist.
Your American """""education""""" is showing.
how come back in those days burning multiple bodies speeds up the process but nowadays it takes over 3 hours to cremate a corpse?
>60%
Do you believe 6 million were killed intentionally by the german in WW2?
>having to debate every new fag in every new fag thread
FUCK that's tiring. How about lurk more and look up things on 4plebs.org. We've had this thread 6 million times.
>how come back in those days burning multiple bodies speeds up the process but nowadays it takes over 3 hours to cremate a corpse?
>cremation today is totaly the same as it was in WW2
Today crematoriums aren't made to burn multiple bodies at a time, nor they are made to burn bodies quickly.
12 million you forget the Communists, Gypsys, Political subversives, Gays, LDS, Partisans etc. etc.
If you can only bother to remember the Jews than your no person worth even talking to.
No, the burden of proof is on you, kike.
According to the evidence, the Holocaust never happened.
False equivalancy, what an odd thing to lie about, I do think jews were rounded up and put into camps, I just think that the purpose of the camps originally was deportation to Israel as per the the agreement made before the war broke out. Granted their is lot of fishy stuff from all parties involved in the matter.
But when we mention holocaust we are mentioning jews. Understand this. If we would dwell in the Soviet POW mistreatment it would be another holocaust
At this point, it's pretty non debatable that the holocaust happened, but was grossly exaggerated.
Well, the if there wasn't any holocaust, why would Himmler go to Finland twice to request the finish jews?
>I just think that the purpose of the camps originally was deportation to Israel as per the the agreement made before the war broke out. Granted their is lot of fishy stuff from all parties involved in the matter.
The camps were built after 1941, you retard. The resetlement to palestince policy ended with the outbreak of the war
>but was grossly exaggerated.
What do you mean?
How is it s false equivalency? Just because one person lied the whole thing is now false? That reasoning is beyond retarded, and my analogy was to help the autist understand that. My analogy was not to say, "Hurr durr, since one man lied that must mean everything else is true!" But I'll forgive you for thinking that since your """"education"""" is American.
I disagree on the purpose of the camps, I do believe the Jewish narrative in this case (because even the fucking Germans admitted to it). I don't believe evey individual story, because that's retarded, but the overarching narrative is supported by evidence and is consistent with all parties involved.
LDS (Mormon) here.
I didn't know that the Germans didn't like us as well..
I know the Jehovahs witnesses were persecuted because they wouldn't fight.
Now, in terms of the holocaust, there was clearly as mass killing of Jews and other groups, however was it as large and intentional as it's currently accepted? This I'm not sure about, much evidence points to the fact that it wasn't.
Plus, the amount of """survivors""" is staggering given the narrative is that the Germans wanted them all dead.
Why is it you only hear of jewish survivors and no other groups?
>he thinks rape wasn't invented by the Jews to sell self-defense classes
ever hear of a jew surviving a death camp? there's a logical mistake in the labeling of the camp(s) if someone survives one.
some successful jews even survived multiple death camps. they must be favored. they're not called survival camps.
Debate THESE, Barbosa
>those 4-7 million non Jews didnt matter
You're a monster. My Grandfather spent two years at Therienstadt for Partisan activities and you might as well be spitting on his corpse since only Jews matter.
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>evidence points to the fact that it wasn't.
What evidence?
>Plus, the amount of """survivors""" is staggering
What survivors?
>Why is it you only hear of jewish survivors and no other groups?
Becasue the vast majority in those camps were jewish.
Literally no one cares about your gypsy granddad. Be glad he died early before he could infect you with his gypsy ways.
He's not the only "survivor" who's made shit up. There were no gas chambers in any German concentration camps.
if the holocaust happened, then why are there still jews?
What a coincidence!!!
Lived to the early 00's was Danish. Fuck off 2nd rate Australia
ODD
He could be lying. His memory could be mistaking him. Could be PTSD. It could even be truth.
But basing holocaust denial on some individual survivors stories that might have hapened is stupid
Cremation nowadays is faster.
Danish gypsies are the worst kind of gypsy. The Germans did the world a favor.
You're right, the improvements to cremation oven technology have greatly slowed down the speed at which bodies burn. Such is the cost of progress.
>But basing holocaust denial on some individual survivors stories that might have hapened is stupid
But basing the truth of the holocaust on some individual stories that might have happened is okay?
LMAO nice one mate
Removing divisive elements out of the lands of the Reichs allies.
Why do you have to take an elevator to get from the gas chamber to the crematorium?
>Danish
>Gypsy
stop your a sad embarrassing thing
if the holocaust happened why is it illegal to study it?
>>those 4-7 million non Jews didnt matter
Why are you victimissing yourself? I am discussing the holocaust denial. Nobody denies Hitler killed the other groups
And desu, too bad Hitler didn't exterminate every single one of your fucking disgusting race. Fuck the gipsies.
>Don't base opinion of the holocaust on individual stories
>Bases opinion of the holocaust off of individual stories.
The actual historical evidence would suggest that it wasn't intentional genocide.
You said that the burden of proof lies not with the person making the claim, but with someone else to disprove.
The burden of proof lies with someone who is making a claim, and is not upon anyone else to disprove. The inability, or disinclination, to disprove a claim does not render that claim valid, nor give it any credence whatsoever. However it is important to note that we can never be certain of anything, and so we must assign value to any claim based on the available evidence, and to dismiss something on the basis that it hasn't been proven beyond all doubt is also fallacious reasoning.
You seem to have missed these my friend :)
source?
en.wikipedia.org
And like i said, improvement in cremation ight npt mean it his done faster. Cremation in WW2 was a industrial process, made to be fast. Cremation nowadays is meant as a more cerimonial thing, not meant to be fast.
> divisive elements
>muh stab in the back
It's not. Many promineant scholars work on it.
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>inb4 wikipedia
Check the source then. Danish gypsies are a cancer. humanityinaction.org
So you are Pro Holocaust? Why bother debating it then eh?
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Too bad your singles were no match for trips. Nice try kiddo.
>The actual historical evidence would suggest that it wasn't intentional genocide.
source?
And thisAnd what about eichman trial? And what about nuremberg trials, were many admited it.
Here, read his memoirs:
What would the advantage be in making cremation slower, now? Are you retarded?
>And what about nuremberg trials, were many admited it.
Are you 16, dude?
>Pro Holocaust?
What is this? I believe the holocaust was pretty much the same as official version says it was.
I just fucking hate gipsies and wouldn't she a single fucking tier if your race was exterminated. Filthy disgusting gipsies
Damn you missed them again! What a (((coincidence)))
American education is so bad that you have to bring Kek into this to argue.
Put down the McD mate.
Nuremberg trials were as much as a farce as the show trials in Moscow for fecks sake
Because it's cerimonial, dude. It's not meant to be fast. You would be better comparing the crematoriums to modern day icinerators.
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>not an argument
So your debating it happened and should happen again. Or you're saying Jews are special victims and the chosen people. Either way you're one sad Moor.
no, just a sentient human being. I suppose you think merkel acting as a trojan horse is a good thing though eh abdoool
That picture is missing several Concentration and Extermination camps.
It's just some chrrypicked stories that might be the result of fabricated stories, confused minds, or actual stories. It's literally nothing.
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Kek flows through me and demolishes your pathetic digits. Fuggin Maoris
Holocaust denial is a meme on Sup Forums, only stormfag refugees actually believe that it didn't happen.
FREE THEM FROM THE EARTH
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Kek its even missing Warsaw camp.
Of course, how could I forget the 6 million camps scattered across the land
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If you're saying "they admitted it, therefore it happened" at what was obviously a show trial, you're an idiot. Put a gun to someone's head and tell them to confess, and most will.
If you need to explained to you piece by piece why a brick oven made in 1933 burns less efficiently than a modern airtight crematorium, there is literally no reason to even talk, at all.
"It's not meant to be fast" is not an argument and there's no basis whatsoever to suggest that modern crematoriums are slower.
It is missing some of the most major camps, this picture is just cherrypicking to fit your narrative.
OY VEY THEY'RE MISSING SOME CAMPS IT'S ANOTHA SHOAH
I remember someone posting a YouTube playlist with a bunch of videos about if the holocaust actually happened.
Anyone have it.
This thread again. Dumping.
The Origin of the '6 Million Jews' Figure
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Photo Manipulations in the USSR
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Six Million Jews
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The "Six Million" Myth
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Argument Boils About Numbers of Auschwitz Dead
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Auschwitz for Dummies
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Documentary Photographs Proving the National Socialist Persecution of the Jews?
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The Einsatzgruppen and the Holocaust
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Examining the Einsatzgruppen Reports
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The Gas Chambers: Truth or Lie?
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The Germans "Bred Geese in Order to Drown Out the Shouts and Torments of 250,000 Jews Murdered Inside the Gas Chambers"
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Source to read:
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Look, here's the deal.
Yes, jews died. Did 6 gorillion die? No.
Were jews put in concentration camps? Yes.
Were any of these camps death camps? No.
Does anyone know the actual numbers? No.
Did Hitler hate jews? Yes.
Did he hate them enough to butcher them on site? Maybe some, but given the vast amount of emaciated pictures of prisoners, I'd say no. It takes months for a body to gain that look.
Which brings up the question: If your goal was to kill them from the start, why use the resources to feed and clothe them?
So basically, there are so many holes in the holocaust narrative I just cannot believe it any more. Miles and miles of reasonable doubt, cannot convict.
I submit to my burger overlord!
The kill count was overblown.
Yesss, thank you. I needed a dump, my old computer got wiped by the JIDF.
As Many as 90% of Those Claiming to Be Holocaust Survivors May Be Frauds
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Australian Man's Holocaust Story Labelled a 'Lie'
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Brighton Beach Holocaust Fund Scammer Jailed for Nearly Two Years
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CBS's Ben Stein Warns of Second Holocaust
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Children of Holocaust Survivors Inherit the Role of Witness
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Court Rules Fake Holocaust Survivor Must Return $22.5 Million from Book 'Misha' About Fabricated Tale
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Defamation: ADL Bullying Ukraine into Downplaying the Holodomor as Serious as the Holocaust
[YouTube] Defamation - ADL bullying Ukraine into downplaying the Holodomor as serious as the Holocaust (embed)
Foxman Addressing Holodomor in the Ukraine: Goyim Must Remain Silent
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France to Pay $60 Million to Jewish Holocaust Deportees
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Fraudster Gets Eight Years in $57 Million Holocaust Scheme
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Germany to Provide Funds to Nazis' Child Victims
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Har Nof Attack Scene 'Looked Like the Holocaust'
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Holocaust Trauma Affects Grandchildren of Survivors
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The Holocaust's Long Reach: Trauma is Passed On to Survivors' Children
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In First, Poland to Pay Pensions to Shoah Survivors Abroad
timesofisrael.com
Is a Second Holocaust Possible?
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Israeli Diplomat in Berlin: Maintaining German Guilt About Holocaust Helps Israel
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Mismanagement at Holocaust Fund? Accusations Fly After Claims Conference Fires Own Watchdog
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Money Running Out for Needy Holocaust Survivors
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The Second Holocaust
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U.S. Diplomat: Many Holocaust Survivors Live in Poverty
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'We Are Looking at the Beginnings of a Holocaust'
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Air Photo Evidence
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Alois Brunner and the "I Would Do it All Again" Statement was a Lie, Says Researcher
newobserveronline.com
An Introduction to Holocaust Revisionism
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Auschwitz: Crematorium I and the Alleged Homicidal Gassings - Carlo Mattogno
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Auschwitz: The Final Count - Michael Collins Piper
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Auschwitz: The First Gassing, Rumor and Reality - Carlo Mattogno
vho.org
Auschwitz Lies: Legends, Lies, and Prejudices on the Holocaust - Germar Rudolf, Carlo Mattogno
vho.org
Auschwitz: Open Air Incinerations - Carlo Mattogno
vho.org
Auschwitz: Plain Facts - A Response to Jean-Claude Pressac
vho.org
Best Witness: The Mel Mermelstein Affair and the Triumph of Historical Revisionism - Michael Collins Piper
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Belzec: in Propaganda, Testimonies, Archeological Research, and History - Carlo Mattogno
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The Bunkers of Auschwitz: Black Propaganda versus History - Carlo Mattogno
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Gipsies beg for it, that is for sure
The gas chamber were made for the intent of looking like they were showers.
>If you're saying "they admitted it, therefore it happened" at what was obviously a show trial, you're an idiot.
???
> Put a gun to someone's head and tell them to confess, and most will.
All of them already knew they would be sentenced to death, there was little to no reason to lie. Were they tortured?
>If you need to explained to you piece by piece why a brick oven made in 1933 burns less efficiently than a modern airtight crematorium, there is literally no reason to even talk, at all.
But you can't compare them , because the purpose is not the same
The Central Construction Office of the Waffen-SS and Police Auschwitz: Organization, Responsibilities, Activities - Carlo Mattogno
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Concentration Camp Majdanek: A Historical and Technical Study - Jürgen Graf, Carlo Mattogno
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Concentration Camp Stutthof and its Function in National Socialist Jewish Policy - Jürgen Graf, Carlo Mattogno
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'Did Six Million Really Die?' - Barbara Kulaszka
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Dissecting the Holocaust: The Growing Critique of 'Truth' and 'Memory', (2nd Revised Edition) - Germar Rudolf
vho.org
Done. I present you merely the facts, have a read.
>admited it
This is incredibly ignorant, people can be coaxed into saying anything or lying about anything especially when you've been utterly conquered and everyone who resisted died or killed themselves or is on trial to be executed and will do anything to save their remaining kin from persecution.
>The gas chamber were made for the intent of looking like they were showers.
KEK
Okay portugal. That's some impressive denial.
Where's the coke piles required to cremate the bodies at Auschwitz? Auschwitz ovens were coal fired, where is the coal?
A modern crematorium requires anywhere from 1 to 3 hours cremate a body, how did the Nazis cremate 1.1 million people with turn of the century technology? Auschwitz only had 52 muffles.
Where are the morgues if the Nazis continuously gassed people 24/7 non-stop? If a body requires anywhere from 1 to 3 hours just from a modern oven, why do we see no morgues filled with bodies waiting to be cremated?
Why did Orianeburg receive the same amount of Zyklon B as Auschwitz if Orianeburg wasn't a death camp?
Where is all the ash from the burnings? There must have been thousands of tonnes of the stuff at the supposed death camps.
Half of these are about paying Holocaust survivors, obvious bulshit like DNA inheritance, the Holodomor and "a second Holocaust".
Article 19
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The Tribunal shall not be bound by technical rules of evidence. It shall adopt and apply to the greatest possible extent expeditious and nontechnical procedure, and shall admit any evidence which it deems to be of probative value.
Nuremberg Trial Proceedings Volume 1
Article 21
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The Tribunal shall not require proof of facts of common knowledge but shall take judicial notice thereof. It shall also take judicial notice of official governmental documents and reports of the United Nations, including the acts and documents of the committees set up in the various allied countries for the investigation of war crimes, and of records and findings of military or other Tribunals of any of the United Nations.
You don't gas us, we gas YOU
They actually had the Soviet's top show trial judge at Nuremberg.
What a fucking sham.
Dumped into rivers.
Not to mention a complete and total lack of mass graves in germany.
>Did 6 gorillion die? No.
source?
>Were any of these camps death camps? No.
source?
>Maybe some
>what is the Einsatzgruppen
> If your goal was to kill them from the start
No it wasn't
>why use the resources to feed and clothe them?
They feed them and clothed(barely) them those who the nazis did not know what to do with them. They also feed and clothed the jews who could work.
>So basically, there are so many holes in the holocaust narrative ~
Due to your ignorance, only
source?
Holocaust never happened but it should have, not enough Jews died what else can be said?