>CBS embroiled in negotiation talks with Warner Bros. over costly freshman show
>The network would like the show to come back, sources close to the series say, but there’s a problem. The roughly $3 million per-episode price tag CBS pays to broadcast “Supergirl” – one of the highest license fees ever for a freshman show – isn’t quite justified by the ratings. Thirteen million total viewers tuned in to the heavily promoted premiere back in October, but about half the audience bailed over the season, according to Nielsen.
>That has set the stage for a last-minute stare-down between Moonves and Warner Bros. TV chief Peter Roth. CBS will announce its fall schedule in two weeks at the upfront presentations in New York, so the clock is ticking to hammer out a deal.
>Both sides have a potential out. Moonves could push “Supergirl” to The CW, which as it happens is a joint venture between CBS and Warners (Moonves and his team are responsible for programming the network). Such a switch would make perfect sense. The youth-skewing CW already has “The Flash” and other superhero franchises (there was a crossover between “Supergirl” and “The Flash” this season), and its audience is much more aligned with “Supergirl” than is CBS’ much-grayer viewership.
>Fans have suggested such a move for months and lately the Hollywood rumor mill has gone into overdrive that “Supergirl” is flying to CW. But that move would be fraught for both producers and fans, as budget-conscious CW shows don’t tend to collect huge license fees for the studios. The upshot of a CW shift is that there would very likely be big budget cuts in the offing for “Supergirl.”
Just the network changing isnt going to stop Supergirl from being shit.
They'd have to start over or soft reboot it
Joshua Garcia
How else is Felicity going to rescue Kara weekly unless it's on the same channel?
Parker Hernandez
>$3 million per-episode price tag
Jesus fuck.
Evan Jenkins
>Supergirl >But not Constantine ERASE ME
Matthew Flores
>roughly $3 million per-episode
Where is all of that money going? The shitty sets and location shoots, the horrible makeup and effects or the overpaid actors?
Henry Baker
it's better than LoT and Arrow
Brandon Peterson
ok
David Rogers
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Ian Scott
just bring the show back with shorter seasons so you can have episodes that have the same quality.
I like how Banshee's scream looks like the way the screams from Black Canary should have looked like
Hunter Taylor
>The roughly $3 million per-episode price tag That's 60 million in total with 20 episodes
Oliver Evans
>Budget cuts And yet the special effects can only stand to get better.
Bentley Young
i hope you all enjoy more scenes from the one coffee shop in all of metropolis
the same 5 recycled sets arrow and flash have really gets annoying after a while
Levi Flores
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Matthew Cook
>Season one of Supergirl cost more than .... fuck i cant think of anything
Angel Walker
Deadpool
Josiah Allen
District 9
Michael Watson
They should have gone with a shorter 13 episode run to see if people really wanted to watch not-superman the series.
Ethan Davis
hahahaha no
Kayden Evans
Everything is better than Arrow and Legends of Tommorow is barely good.
Jaxson Jones
Thats reasonable though.
Matthew Long
no, not really
Nathaniel Lewis
yes, but Supergirl is definitely not one of them.
Jayden King
I read that as "CBS' much-gayer viewership"
Ayden Gonzalez
Daredevil S1 Jessica Jones Luke Cage Iron Fist Defenders
Unless the funding was lopsided, which it might have been, but still. Damn.
Asher Brown
Here's an idea. LoT ends and don't bring it back. Cancel Arrow. Take on Supergirl, slash the budget. Reuse sets, cut out all the extras. Cut episodes from 20 to 15. Have last 5 episodes crossover with Flash.
Flash is pretty tight budget wise. Yet they use it a lot better than Supergirl. Idk where the fuck the budget went, maybe filming in LA instead of Canada? Move the production from LA to Canada, get rid of Alley McBeal she's expensive.
Maybe and just maybe we can get away with having two good shows. Also please fire the lead writers for S2, bring back the one who did S1. S2 of Flash was way too meh vs S1. I felt Zoom wasn't even that scary vs Reverse Flash. Zoom just killed everyone, Reverse Flash was methodical and covered up his involvement.
Connor Ortiz
According to Cavanagh, Supergirl's production is moving to Vancouver with the rest of the CW shows.
>$3 mil per episode ... and it looked like shit, imagine how it will look like under CW's wing .. don't even want to think about it.
Anthony Taylor
>Milana will never be Power Girl
Christopher Cox
I'm okay with it moving to CW if the flash writers get creative control
Anthony Bell
I don't know why, but I keep seeing Snart when I look at this guy
Julian Adams
>That's 60 million in total with 20 episodes Higher. The average is $3 million per reg episode. Sometimes higher (Flash crossover, Red Tornado, Red Krypt SG) and some were a bit lower (mostly early episodes where they didn't do that much for power showing.) The pilot was $14 million on its own.
Adrian Murphy
>the same 5 recycled sets arrow and flash have really gets annoying after a while Some of the same SFX scenes, too. Gotham got as bad during season 2 were they reused lots of the city panning shots, cut down on anything which needed additional SFX to up the cityscape like rooftop chases. The amount of SFX heavy supervillains also got cut down.
it makes sense, they're a lot of girls on cw network still from all of their girly shows, right age range and they could cut costs.
Joshua Harris
I can't believe it, the choreography and CGI is similiar to 90's power rangers. Hell, the villains don't look much better than Puttys
Daniel Lewis
>They'd have to start over or soft reboot it Something like moving her and some of the cast over to E1? They'd have to technically start fresh at that point.
Brandon Collins
>mfw supergirl literally got better than flash after the first for episodes
Thomas Fisher
>Something like moving her and some of the cast over to E1? I'd love it if the universal travel makes her boobs massive and when she arrives on E1 she changes her name to Powergirl.
Nicholas Wright
No it didn't. It has had, by my count, 1 good episode.
Funny enough, it was the White Martian episode, which was MM focused.
Connor Young
just like my comics
Luis Turner
>$3 million per-episode price tag CBS pays to broadcast “Supergirl” Fuck me, really? At that price, you'd think it wouldn't be shit.
Noah Thomas
>idk where the fuck the budget went, maybe filming in LA instead of Canada? Probably. There's a lot off effects but not nearly as much as Flash - Flash arguably looks much better.
>get rid of Alley McBeal she's expensive. this >Cancel Arrow this > Also please fire the lead writers for S2 THIS >LoT ends and don't bring it back. not this. LoT has a good cast and can still get good with a good writer. Flash got real bad with new writers. Arrow is unsalvageable.
Colton Stewart
That is some seriously shit taste.
Grayson Price
>Flash arguably looks much better. Melissa can't fight. She looks like a girl trying to punch, not supergirl. They should scrap fist fights and aim for more flight charges, tackles and throws.
The fight choreography in supergirl is terrible.
Julian Sullivan
>Arrow is unsalvageable That is really painful to admit. I loved S2.
Brody Jenkins
Seeing Ally Mcbeal on the cw amuses the shit out of me though, especially when her husband is now the highest paid actor in history.
Blake Barnes
Really though. Constantine was way better than Supergirl
Nolan Wilson
So basically Smallville with Kara? Why not
Andrew James
So, if the move does happen, how are they gonna move that whole cast to Earth 1?
Henry Carter
supergirls universe gets wiped out by a mysterious force and she ends up in earth one by some wormhole
Anthony Butler
Something destroys the universe and she escapes with her close friends. This destroyer of her universe becomes the villain for her next season.
Braniac would be a good one, because you have the twist that the universe is in a bottle, not destroyed.
Ayden Anderson
Could work. Soft reboot. Have Supergirl jump worlds to the CWverse. Easily dump the whole cast if you want. Less big threats in CWverse so less heavy sfx
Isaac Rodriguez
or the destroyer turns out to be the main villain for the next JL movie
Dylan Parker
That would be the most amazing thing.
Gavin Wilson
They don't have to you know It could be just its own verse and crossover when necessary.
Robert Brown
>Melissa can't fight. She looks like a girl trying to punch, not supergirl. They should scrap fist fights and aim for more flight charges, tackles and throws.
This would only increase the budget for the show even more. Someone should post the webm when Kara fights Bizarro SG. That looked so fucking bad with the wire work.
>The fight choreography in supergirl is terrible. Truth.
Evan Cox
Some method of destroying the universe or a Crisis would be good since it would account for them no longer being in L.A.
Cameron Ross
>This would only increase the budget for the show even more My understanding that things like eye lasers aren't too tough, she could do a fly in / tackle (Flash does this shit every ep) and then follow up with a warning shot with heat vision.
Jacob Rivera
I hope it just gets axed, it's awful.
Superslut makes my dick hard though. At least when she's not full tumblr
Jordan Cooper
Honestly on second thought I wouldn't even worm hole them, just have the world be destroyed and the wake up on E1.
Who saved us? Who destroyed our planet? Where are we? Do my powers work? How does MM deal with losing a planet AGAIN? What work do they do?
Mason James
Okay, so, budget cuts then. Flockhart will be out (she's gotta be the most expensive) I hope Harewood isn't as expensive, or is tempted by the Queen on money, but he's an MBE and may also be too expensive.
So with that, Kara leaves Catco? Maybe takes Winn with her? DEO moves to a new location to better track down Cadmus? We never get Director Bones because spooky skellington man would be too expensive to animate?
Samuel Rivera
We could have E1 Jimmy too! Red hair bumbling fool.
Isaac Parker
The show will mostly go with her being depowered probably. It is the same reason they left clark on the ground.
Hudson Nelson
what does the money even go towards like catered lunches, team dinners and vacations?
Jace Moore
They have to power her down as well. She's not used to the new sun and it's unique properties. She's about a class 10 in strength and is pretty fast on her feet can fly easily and has blue laser vision and ice breath and can take a few bullets but if she's hit was mortar fire or assault rifles she's screwed.
And if she's out of sunlight for longer then 48 hours she's a normal woman.
Gavin James
LoT, no Arrow, yeah
Michael Campbell
It sounds like she's shooting for a crossover, which if my COIE theories are true, this is all to be expected.
It would fuck up the entire dynamic of the show, so I doubt it.
They don't *have* to cut the budget, they just want to. WBTV is charging CBS through the nose for each episode. It's expensive as fuck to shoot in LA and the show was pretty lavish with their on-location shooting (see pic) and set building.
There's a lot of things they could do - splitting production between Vancouver and LA for establishing shots and the occasional desert/street scene - the only problem is that Vancouver looks nothing like LA and that would require really creative editing and shooting with maybe some back and forth. Who even knows if Calista wants to go.
I don't think moving to Vancouver would be for the best, but it would make crossovers easier - part of the reason the Flash crossover looked badly was that Grant had to fly back to Canada and they spliced the footage together for some SFX.
The good news is that Kara will stay on the air, so at least I'm happy about that.
Luis Watson
buddy you're under some strange assumption. The only way this show is staying on the air is if it moves to CW.
cost+viewership, this show is gone otherwise
Jack Martinez
You could choose 6-8 high schools and send every graduating student through college with that money.
Christopher Smith
They already said CBS wants it, they're just negotiating over the price. There's a number of ways they could resolve that - moving it to the CW is a measure of last resort.
I'm just going to bemoan that we'll never get to see Cat Grant in her prime sniping at Lois and hitting on Clark.
Ryder Roberts
Not a single source is saying that, everything that has been coming out is saying because they lose half their viewership that CBS isn't right place for the price. So they want to move it to save it sort of deal. CW has women in the right age range and then they could reduce cost.
Gabriel Carter
>It sounds like she's shooting for a crossover, which if my COIE theories are true, this is all to be expected. Except all the shows wrapped for the season nearly a month ago.
Oliver Peterson
>Except all the shows wrapped for the season nearly a month ago. Huh.
Lucas Anderson
It won't look worse than the already shitty VFX it has on CBS. It might even look better when they don't have to pay for shooting in LA or Flockhart's salary.
Luke Allen
I kinda don't want Supergirl to go to CW cause CW would probably ruin like they did with Arrow.
Mason Edwards
There's nothing to ruin.
Asher Hughes
All the shows finished filming their current seasons last month.
Carter Lopez
it, however, could have filmed another 7 episodes for the budget of the Adam Sandler Abomination Jack and Jill.
so, y'know, perspective.
Xavier Anderson
your show is either going to cw or death.
Camden Ramirez
Are you ready for a better supergirl?
Ryan Gray
This will never happen. They said the same shit about Constantine. Fuck CBS and network television in general. Fuck ABC for cancelling Agent Carter and probably Most Wanted.
Jordan Jenkins
They already have previous deals though because CW used to be WB, so unlike constantine, she would most likely fit well at CW and is a pre-existing property, I remember a lot of petitions to save it but that was NBC and NBC has been killing tons of shows for years.
Benjamin Mitchell
No fuck if supergirl joins CW then it'll give felicity a chance to ruin it
Josiah Sanders
>They do lightning bolt, green kryptonite trick and give felicity supergirl's powers.
Christopher Bell
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Luke Hall
>cancelling Agent Carter >a bad thing No.
Cooper Edwards
Didn't even give him a damn blu-ray release.
Well I hope whatever you like gets cancelled.
Jaxon Brooks
user they'll give it a release down the road. I mean they just gave Lucifer a 2 year deal after this season. There is always hope
Jack Richardson
I thought the $3 mil was just payed to the WB for the right to show it on CBS?
Austin Lopez
Yeah but everybody fucking LOVES Lucifer. NBC did a fucking terrible job at advertising their great shows. Hannibal and Constantine both never stood a chance on that garage channel.
Brayden Scott
>Well I hope whatever you like gets cancelled. If it makes you feel better, you already got your wish.
Liam Young
I didn't really wish it user.
Grayson Rivera
The license fee CBS pays per episode is $3 mil. That goes straight into the budget.
Eli Parker
Well not everyone, I mean it gets a lot of hate here because he isn't some david bowie clone.
I like it though a lot for what it is and since they're going to lean more into supernatural now, I hope more people will like it since that is what they wanted in the first place.
