What does Sup Forums think of Erwin Rommel?

Do you think he knew of the plot to kill Hitler?

Such a shame that Hitler had him killed.

I know, he was a excellent general. And all Hitler did was bring morale down when he had him killed and said it was a "battlewound"

Wasn't he part of it? I thought that that was why he was executed. He was never a member of the nat soc party. However, none of those men that tried to kill Hitler did it to help the allies, they did it because they thought Hitler's insistence on certain tactics would inevitably lead to Germany's defeat.

From what I know:

Hitler believed that Rommel knew about the plot intimately, but did not perform any of his roles or assist the plotters. I think Hitler killed Rommel out of his paranoia and rage following the July 20th plot. He had the most important people (like Stauffenberg) rounded up the same night and executed.

You do have a point, and if I'm not mistaken Erwin usually didn't kill Jews when he was ordered to.

Personally I think he was a good general but is a little overrated. Beating the British in the early years of the war wasn't really that hard.

True, Hitler wasn't mentally and physically in shape to do much so by that time he was probably losing it.

Surprisingly honorable for a German,plus he was a good general who deployed aggressive tactics.

I think so, I think most of the generals would have known something was afoot at least, I'm sure they where well aware that they were brilliant tacticians but they where being stifled by hitler/goebbels/himmler, luckily for us it never worked and hitler went all stalin on his army hierarchy which ultimately won us the war.

Hitlers sense of self worth was the allies greatest ally.

Haha true, But he sure did have some excellent quotes.

An honorable man and a legitimatly good person.

Rommel was overrated. Manstein was Germany's best asset.

>Be Erich von Manstein, February 1943
>Shocked beyond belief that Hitler has thrown an entire army to their deaths to secure a city of little strategic value.
>Whatever, the German Army was a flexible organisation that could take a single bloody pop to the nose as the loss of the Sixth Army had been.
>Watch in mild disgust as Hitler slinks away to go hide from the war.
>Go to work turning the situation around. Beat the Soviet's faces in at every turn.
>Start noticing the pattern in the Soviet Army doctrine.
>Lay down a trap at Kharkov, withdraw and watch as the Soviet's spring an army on the city.
>Pincer movement, encircle and before the Soviets knew it, Manstein has destroyed 50 divisions in one battle alone
>Amazed as shit
>Begin reworking the summer strategy of 1943 Withdrawals from contested sectors, encirclement, tear the guts out of the Soviet Army. 1944 would be the next general offensive.
>Hitler suddenly appears. Manstein's success has filled Hitler with renewed confidence.
>Demands to see the plans.
>"NO NO THIS IS ALL WRONG. I WANT A FULL FRONTAL OFFENSIVE!"
>JUST.jpg

>Erwin Rommel

Pleb

Obviously.

Himmler knew too.

he knew. The Germans had an extremely effective intelligence apparatus, and it implicated him. Canaris probably went out of his way to hide Rommel's guilt, but failed.

Yeah which is sad, because i wish he did succeed in his mission.

Thanks for all the answers my friends. Was just bored and felt like killing some time and all you made some valid points.

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Haha yeah, he sure was good as well.

You do know that the Wehrmacht or either Waffen SS neither could kill jews without a really valid reason, otherwise they would get killed by their camarades and their higher in ranks. Kek'd muh gud dindu nuffin nazi Erwin.

hitler really was a fucking retard a lot of the time

i heard he interfered with plans to make a plane that could fly on dirty fuel for no reason at all

he literally would have done better to just do the leadership thing and stop giving everyone else advice

I think his health was in decline in 1944 but he didn't have the Parkinsons quite yet.

>what is submarine escort for a battleship

t. admiral of Kriegsmarine

Fucking this

He had very little idea of what was going on thanks to his staff

You're not wrong about the British Armed forces in the first couple of years of the war but he didn't beat them. Sure it was a hell of a bloody back and forth across that desert but he eventually lost. I think that Churchill said something like "We had nothing but defeats before Tobruk but nothing but victories after" It wasn't quite true though as we pretty much commanded the North Sea/Channel and we won the air war over England.

Ah, okay, i didn't know that haha sorry for being a pleb.

>Hitlers sense of self worth was the allies greatest ally.

Yeah, I always think that when some plays the whole "would you go back in time and kill Hitler?" Truth is, you'd have to defend him to secure an allied victory.

Not true in the first few months of Russian campaign lad

It is well documented that einzatz meme gruppen did execute a ton of Russians . Hitler didn't know this but Himmler did famalam

In the first months they always witnessed the biggest surrender mass of crowd in history, that ended up turning against them to the end of the war. Debatable if they deserved the mercy.

Of course yeah, they killed a lot of children and women too. Yes there is collateral but they had the intention to round em up and kill them.

You are right about the Wehr and SS being told to not kill civilians, Himmler was a cunt who hid TONS of shit from Hitler

Erwin is my wife.