Red pilled sources on the rise of the nazi?

I don't mean holocaust denial as I am still out on that one as there is no evidence either way,

I know the Jews destroyed a lot of the German nation after ww1,

Anyone got any good reading about them after ww1, perhaps even before or during?

Other urls found in this thread:

youtu.be/Dda-0Q_XUhk
youtu.be/RddqP0ABzwM
youtube.com/watch?v=7dxsVSzL4HE
fpp.co.uk/History/Churchill/Weizmann_Zionists/Weizmann_Churchill_corr.pdf
auschwitz.org/galeria/zdjecia-i-dokumenty-historyczne/zaglada,12.html
topfundsoehne.de/media_de/abb_045.html
youtube.com/watch?v=A7wwArD6MTc
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Nazi_boycott_of_1933
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_casualties_in_World_War_II#Civilian_Casualties
web.archive.org/web/20070302085046/http://www.spiegel.de/international/spiegel/0,1518,355188,00.html
twitter.com/SFWRedditGifs

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youtu.be/Dda-0Q_XUhk

youtu.be/RddqP0ABzwM

The only deniers out there are one that have been caught out on lying, skewing facts and misrepresenting sources.
If you still take their words you're no different to liberal degenerate.

David Irving

hes the quintessential Hitler historian

So you want to read david irving?

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Watch this video, which thoroughly debunks much leading material on the mainstream Holocaust narrative.
youtube.com/watch?v=7dxsVSzL4HE

Just ignore this kike shill faggot.

The holocaust DID happen, but it wasn't six gorillion. Perhaps 1 or 2, but it's deffinetly inflated.
Also, notice how everyone hides the Genocide of chinise by the japs. Really makes you think.

youtu.be/Dda-0Q_XUhk

youtu.be/RddqP0ABzwM

He's already been proven as a fraud - admitted it.
Over complicating his citations - using so many so as to confuse readers. When further investigated it was found to be completely misrepresenting his sources.
Embarrassing.

I've left you info - argue them properly.
Waiting...

>The holocaust DID happen
No it didn't. If 6 million Jews weren't systematically exterminated, many by gas chamber, then the Holocaust as it is sold to us did not happen. That's like saying "Yeah sure the Earth revolves around the sun, but that doesn't mean that the universe isn't geocentric."

Ah yes, when the fraudsters are on "our" side we continue to trust them.
Take your time with these. Only a stormshill will dismiss it so quickly.

youtu.be/RddqP0ABzwM

It's fine, continue with Irving and Zundel - ignorate facts.

rare

Think I haven't seen all the garbage?
Unlike you I do research.

If you're being serious and not just some edgy teen - then you would take the time to read what I've presented. It's in meme form, because I know how lazy you guys are.

I'll be back in a bit and see if anyone can thoroughly debunk any of these.

>but muh Jaeger Report

"Muh...muh...muh..MUH PRE-WAR SIX MILLION NEWSPAPER ARTICLE CITATIONS OMFGGGGGG!!!!!!!"

It your choice to be dumb at the end of they day.
Just don't complain if this kind of thinking has a crippling effect on your brain in future.

Did you even watch the video? No, of course you didn't. If there's one good thing I can take from modern Muslim mass immigration, it's how many of them are Holocaust deniers. Your days are numbered, you disingenuous rat.

Holocaust denial debunking crash course:

1) Zyklon-B blue staining

>"This blue staining existed in the chambers used to delouse clothing, since typhus was a huge problem. The supposed "execution chambers" had no such staining, as proven in the Leuchter and Rudolf report."

No proof delivered by the denier scholars that zyklon-b causes the blue staining, and nothing else (e.g. paint)

Question: if zyklon-b causes the staining, why is the staining also visible on the OUTSIDE of the delousing chamber? No proof has been delivered that the zyklon-b staining worked its way through the entire brickwork, soaking it whole.

>I don't mean holocaust denial as I am still out on that one as there is no evidence either way,

>no evidence either way

nice try stormshill


inb4 some retard thinks every single victim of the holocaust was gassed and then burned and somehow thinks people dying from horrible conditions and typhus is somehow ok

hi

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debunk this

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The Jew in South Africa is back!

To answer OP's question, it was numerous reasons. On of the primary ones was the 1917-1918 attempted coup by Jewish Communists to take over Germany much like the one that had been successful in Russia. By now the reports of Jewish atrocities in Russia by men such as NKVD Chief Genrikh Yagoda (responsible for Holodomor) had reached the ears of the German people

>TRANSCRIPT OF SEPT. 10, 1941 LETTER FROM CHAIM WEIZMANN TO WINSTON CHURCHILL THAT ASSERTS THAT "THE JEWS" HELPED TO PUT THE U.S. INTO WORLD WAR I AGAINST GERMANY, AND WOULD BE KEEN TO DO IT AGAIN | [ORIGINAL FACSIMILES]


>fpp.co.uk/History/Churchill/Weizmann_Zionists/Weizmann_Churchill_corr.pdf


>It has been repeatedly acknowledged by British Statesmen that it was the Jews who, in the last war, effectively helped to tip the scales in America in favour of Great Britain. They are keen to do it - and may do it - again .

But let's just for a second entertain the thought that zyklon-B DOES cause prussian blue staining.

Many arguemnts exist why zyklon b staining did not develop in the homicidal gas chambers walls. For instance, such a staining does not develop if you something as simple as splash water onto the walls of a room after gassing, which the sonderkommando did to clean the excrement and blood victims clawing over each other in panic left during gassings.

Secondly, unlike the delousing chambers you can kill a batch of warm blooded humans within a half hour of gassing (20 minutes of exposure; 300ppm HCN concentration) while the cold blooded lice infesting inmate clothing take a lot longer to be killed (hours and hours of exposure; 16,000 ppm concentration), this is basic biology. Hence you can find prussian blue staining in the delousing chambers. Even several half hours' worth of gassing per day won't leave enough staining if each gassing only lasts approx 30 minutes.

And finally, nobody claims 900k of the 1.1 million people were all gassed in Krema I (which is situated in the Auschwitz I complex). They were gassed in Kremas I, II, III, IV, V etc., the latter are ruins so it is impossible to determine what kind of prussian blue staining they had. Just some points for the deniers.

>By now the reports of Jewish atrocities in Russia by men such as NKVD Chief Genrikh Yagoda (responsible for Holodomor)

>physical evidence

You mean the lack of bodies? Oh thats right, they were all cremated :^)

Well this is what I meant, on one end you have the industrialized killing of Jewish populations, where every death was oven, burnings, etc, and it was the greatest genocide ever.

On the other hand you have people who say it never happened, where in reality it is probably somewhere in between (2 million deaths maybe). I do believe that numbers may have been inflated to demonise anything that risked carving up Europe for financial gain for the US, UK, France, etc.

2) "They also had holes in the ceiling and chimneys that were constructed after the war by the soviets."

Krema I located in Auschwitz I is a 1947 post-war reconstruction, yes. You can even read it on the sign outside the building (pic related). All other Kremas are ruins.

Unnecessary tripfagging belongs on plebbit.
Debunk any of my posts. Stop derailing/diverting.
Take your time.

the reason

6 year old stormfront post with 5 pages most of which call Sup Forums degenerate.

fuck off idf

3) >"There was also no safe way to remove the gas from the chambers"

We have blueprints showing us ventilation systems were in place. We even have letters from the camp requesting engineers to introduce better airation for warm air into a room that was labeled a MORGUE (wtf, right? why would you need ventilation of warm air in a morgue unless it was to circulate zyklon-b gas from the pellets after they were dropped through the holes?)

You avoiding my posts? Instead you're sticking with stuff that's been debunked already?

>"and no way to keep the gas in, since there was windows and a normal wooden door."

that wooden door leads to the wash room in the reconstructed Krema I. Remember the Nazis converted Krema I into an air raid shelter some time in 1944. No camp authority claims that is the air tight gas chamber door.

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>"To claim that a camp that contains healthcare, currency, sports, theatres, cantinas, swimming pools, etc was used for "exterminating" people is just stupid."

really? Why? One thing does not rule out the other. Also, most of the amenities mentioned were located in Stammlager, not Birkenau.

ReadIt covers everything you're "copy-pasting".

>"The red cross was also stationed in the concentration camps during the "holocaust" and their estimated number of casualties were around 280k-300k, with the cause mainly being typhus and starvation because of the raiding and bombing of german trade routes."

Nope, nope and nope. The IRC has never claimed to ever possess an accurate statistic of wartime dead in the camps. They were allowed limited access, and that one grainy photocopy that exists and gets circulated around denier forums is a rough estimate of officially registered prisoners having died in the camps.

>derailing

How about where you derailed a thread about the rise of National Socialism into MUH 6 GAZILLION NEVAR 4GET Chaim.

>Well this is what I meant, on one end you have the industrialized killing of Jewish populations, where every death was oven, burnings, etc,

This is where Im going to stop you. You and most other deniers come across as retarded because you dont even understand what you are denying in the first place.

The official narrative was NEVER "literally every single victim of the holocaust was gassed and then cremated"

The Einsatzgrouppen death squads killed around 1 million on their own in the eastern front. So even if we go with the stormfront narrative that the camps were perfectly fine were no one ever was murdered, they are still responsible for 1 millions deaths at least.

Deniers arent concerned with history though. They just dont like jews and dont like their special victim status, so they pretend like the holocaust never happened so they dont have to feel bad for the jews. Its pretty weird when you think about it. Even KKK racist who hate black people dont deny slavery ever happened.

>"The world almanac and their demographics reports showed no decrease in the jewish population before and after ww2, and there wasn't even 6 million of them in german territory to begin with. "

Nobody claims 6 million jews were living in germany pre-ww2. Mainstream historians say 550,000 jews lived in Germany before ww2 happened. Most of the jewish holocaust victims are Polish jews, Hungarian jews, and jews living in westernmost russian and ukrainian areas, not German Jews.

>stormcuck who can't differentiate between auschwitz i, auschwitz ii and auschwitz iii

What an autists.
And you're still ignoring my posts - shows you don't know anything, but copy pasta.

This is the average denier mindset. Notice how hes actually proud of how clueless he is on the subject, and how angry he gets that someone knows more than him

>still can't refute anything i've posted
>still tripfagging
stay mad,

You do realize you are posting typhus victims right? Who died in the thousands in the camps at the end of the war as a result of lack of supplies and organization

This is why holocaust propagandists are dishonest and retarded

REFUTE my posts. Should be easy for you?

Everything is covered in:

Also, World Almanac figures:

World Almanacs base their content on censuses done every decade or so, but publish their books annually. The figures are
nothing but mathematical projections. In 1945, the world just got out of a war that cost the lives of 60 million people all over the world. You really think that the world Almanacs will
already have the correct numbers one or two years later? Those kind of death tolls take years to estimate. Unsurprisingly, the 1949 addition of the Almanac does show a decrease of the
world's Jewish population to 11,266,600 people (while in 1939 it was around 16 Million).

The icing on the cake, of course, is that as each Almanac specifically points out that all figures are pre-war estimates, we are treated (yet again) to the epic hilarity of watching deniers
use almanacs as proof.

To recap: Wartime and immediate post-war estimates were pre-war projections..... Read the top of the Almanac page you're copying from without checking! These weren't updated in the
Almanac until the 1950s when the Jewish total did in fact plummet. As usual, dickhead deniers cite Almanac figures as entirely credible....

But if you know who was conducting accurate census surveys in Europe during wartime - tell us who they were

I wish I had a few things about Jacob Schiff. He was a banker who destabilize Russia and Germany in WW1, financed the Bolsheviks and created the Federal Reserve. Read about him.

This faggot is posting a grave of a hundred typhus victims while talking about "deaths of millions", mass graves which don't even exist

This faggot is posting images of German victims of allied bombing

Holohoax industry in a nutshell

Are you calling ME a stormcuck for uploading popular denier inforgraphics and then debunking them in the post?

There has probably been more writings done on nazi Germany than almost anything else in the 20th century. Go to a library some time

It's difficult shilling 24/7 for holocaust remembrance

>You do realize you are posting typhus victims right?

Oh, its ok because they died from reason x instead of reason y! lol what a horrible none argument.

> Who died in the thousands in the camps at the end of the war as a result of lack of supplies and organization

except for the fact that people were also starving in the warsaw ghettos back in 1939 when there were none of these supply shortages, so this whole "t-the good nazis wanted to feed them but just couldnt because of the mean ole allies :(" line doesnt hold up.

No why?

=============Auschwitz pictures from 1943. 1943!!!!========================

(in case any idiot says all we have are soviet reconstructions)
auschwitz.org/galeria/zdjecia-i-dokumenty-historyczne/zaglada,12.html


topfundsoehne.de/media_de/abb_045.html

What really calls my attention about the pool and all that shit, is if it was actually used by ALL the people there, or if it was reserved only for the cooperative or useful jews.
I mean, if we were to judge jails by the way they treat druglords, they would be heaven on Earth, even if the rest of inmates have a shitty existance.
Are there any accounts of who was allowed to use entertainment instalations? Not trying to argue, just curious.

Evidence that the homicidal chambers were fitted with gas-tight doors can be found in the museum archives. There is an order for a
"handle for the gastight door" (No. 162, of 6 March 1943) and another one for "twenty-four-gas-tight anchoring screws for gas-tight
doors" for Cremas 4 and 5 (No. 280, of 6 April 1943); there are also many photographs of actual gas-tight doors that were found all over
Auschwitz immediately after the war. One, which had been used in either Crema 4 or 5, had a peep-hole covered with a heavy mesh screen and still had a gas-tight seal still around the edge, just as Bischoff's letter requested.

>its okay to starve people to death and put them in camps with horrible conditions and let them die of typhus! As long as they didnt gas them!

you are retarded user.

Oh shit - accidentally highlighted your ID instead of Thaddeus's (I see him every day doing the same). Excuse that. Nice info by the way.

>OMFG DID U KNOW J0oZ DECLARED WAR ON GERMONEY FURST? ;_;

Actually, its NOT true. On March 24, 1933, the headline "Judea Declares War on Germany" was splashed across the front page of the
British newspaper Daily Express. The problem with this is there was no such thing as "Judea," and no Jewish organization declared war on
Germany. The only organization mentioned in the article, the Board of Deputies of British Jews, did meet two days later to "discuss the
German situation," but they did not support a boycott. (London Times, March 27, 1933) Theres your proof. Anything else you read is
biased, opinionated nonsense.

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>I know the Jews destroyed a lot of the German nation


indeed

You burgers are so absolutist. I am looking for information and you are providing it. I never denied or accepted, I am simply looking to make a properly informed decision and opinion rather than accept what deniers are saying, or what schools have taught.

Is it that fucking hard to read something properly and not instantly spin into a rage? I can see why your police and military forces are a fucking joke and failure, you can't even understand a basic fucking question, or that it even is a question.

also, its interesting to note that back in the start of WW1, before America got involved officially on either side, most jews wanted to side with Germany and Austria-Hungary. The Austro-Hungarian empire treated jews pretty fairly, especially compared to Russia, which was notoriously anti-semetic.

You're posts are riddled with holes. If I debunk and expose them as garbage you'll just repost them with shored up information or take out the shitty, easily debatable parts. You're literally begging us to help edit and build your information. Really Jewish of you.

I'll play nice and give you a hint though- find another commonly used delousing agent at the time that worked rapidly.

Honestly the delousing argument is perfect-you had jews themselves in their own memoirs constantly complaining of lice and fleas (which we know are disease carriers) in the ghettos.

Of course they would be deloused at a checkpoint before entering the camp.

Think about the jew lives saved by preventing diseases, thank god they were deloused.

There is absolutely no documentation of that because there is no documentation of the alleged mass murder, and separation between Jews to be murdered or saved

Aushwitz guards had manuals how to treat prisoners, these were recovered

"Garrison & Commandant Orders"

>It's quite interesting. it contains for example directives relating to:
- Kids from outside playing in the camp / an order to stop that for safety reasons
- Prohibition of prisoner abuse.
- Tips on nutrition and cooking food for prisoners.

Here are eyewitness accounts for recreational activities in Aushiwtz

youtube.com/watch?v=A7wwArD6MTc

And before that faggot starts lying about different camps, the soccer field was literally mettres away from the alleged gass chambers, which were in fact just two cellars mapped "cold storage" on the maps

Are you South African too? The same images I use (not my oc) was from the Saffabros thread.

An honest discussion to "disprove the mainstream historiography of the holocaust" means:

1) No citing book excerpts written by people that no historian takes seriously in the first place

2) No citing quotes by eye-witnesses no historian takes seriously in the first place

3) Arguing that the Nuremburg trials were "show trials" just because everybody got to speak up and there were some incredulous testimonies among the tens of thousands of papers that form its transcript (deniers cannot cite proof that the phony testimonies like electric plates were used to convict nazis and instead, only point out to the generic IMT statement/guideline/imperative that it doesnt forensically take apart every single thing presented as evidence before conviction)

4) Using some anti-goy quotes by Jews like Ehrenburg as proof that the holocaust did not happen (mental gymnastics required)

5) Drawing parallels to the present day situation in Israel and Palestine and trying to move the goal posts that way from the debate

6) The "Judea declares war on Germany" economic boycott and counter-boycott by the Nazis ("Kauft nicht bei Juden") - this doesnt prove the holocaust didnt happen.

7) Bringing in Talmudic prophecy, numerology, and other religious nonsense into the debate. We're here to discuss WW2 evidence, not the contents of bronze age books.

Once you remove all this from the equation, Holocaust deniers are actually left with very few things they can bring to the table. Usually it is:

1) Auschwitz amenities (post office, theatre, swimming pool, bunny rabbit farm) as "proof" no jew was gassed [NOT AN ARGUMENT] (refuted in thread already)

2) Lack of prussian blue staining and the Leuchter and Rudolf reports (addressed above in the thread already)

3) Gas chamber and crematory capacity

4) Crematory fuel consumption

5) The issue with the Auschwitz gas chamber lift

6) Gas chambers being in visible distance from the barracks

7) No mas graves in Treblinka, Belzec, Sobibor, Majdanek

>correcting something you said that was wrong and then explaining in detail why it is wrong

>"spinning into a rage"

dont take me calling you retarded too personally

>there is no evidence either way
use google, faggot.
They only reason you still believe in that shit is because you want to.

8) The air tight gas chamber doors as mentioned in pic above; gas chamber doors opening inward in some places;

9) using the fact that the only gas chamber in the Auschwitz complex today that isnt a ruin (Krema I) is a post-war replica construction (true) as proof that such a chamber never existed. We know it was an air-raid shelter before, but the deniers claim it was always an air-raid shelter while holocaust historians say it was a gas chamber before it was converted to an air-raid shelter once the birkenau complex (Auschwitz II) was created and gassings were moved there while the SS built the shelter for themselves as the former gas chamber was located close to their compound and the war turned sour

10) the presence of delousing chambers to fumigate the inmate clothing. Why would a regime hellbent on the extermination of jews go to lengths as shaving the heads of jews and delousing their clothing? Fair argument.

11) Auschwitz hospital and some babies born there (and later used by Mengele for experiments but thats ofc never mentioned by the deniers)

12) Haavara Agreement / Palestine / Madagaskar (it's called the FINAL solution for a reason, lads)

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Nazi_boycott_of_1933


There is a wikipedia article on it for fucks sake. Better get your people to edit quick Chaim!

Also good to add that proportionately to their population an incredibly high number of Jews served in the Germany army in ww1

>death of thousand prisoners by lack of supplies and carelessness equals deliberate genocide of millions

Holohoax propagandists always this willfully dishonest.

Still keeps posting typhus victims because there is no photography evidence or any evidence at all of alleged "death camps"

Soviets liberated Aushwitz, where are these types of images of Aushwitz? They don't exist

Why are there so many kikes in south africa?

Is there any actual evidence that gas chambers were used to kill people?

>that wooden door leads to the wash room in the reconstructed Krema I. Remember the Nazis converted Krema I into an air raid shelter some time in 1944

Source? That door bothered the hell out if me and the tour guide just skipped over my question when I asked about it. I did not want to push about it as it would make me look suspect

>There was recreational activities in the camp so therefore they where good and didn't do nothing wrong!

Boycotting german goods somehow means the holocaust didn't happen/was justified...

"However, the Central Jewish Association of Germany, denied that the Nazi government was deliberately provoking anti-Jewish pogroms. It issued a statement of support for the regime and held that "the responsible government authorities [i.e. the Hitler regime] are unaware of the threatening situation," saying, "we do not believe our German fellow citizens will let themselves be carried away into committing excesses against the Jews." Nevertheless, even though vandalism of Jewish businesses and property across Germany occurred, prominent Jewish business leaders wrote letters in support of the Nazi regime calling on officials in the Jewish community in Palestine, as well as Jewish organizations abroad, to drop their efforts in organizing an economic boycott.

I don't recall a "war" started by the Jews.

Apartheid era South Africa was one of Israels greatest allies, also diamonds and gold attracted us there.

Because Israel was on friendly terms with Apartheid South Africa. I'm not a hasbara troll here to shill for Israel and Netanyahu, I'm here to destroy holocaust denial, so kindly remain in the respective time period.

I think most are from Lithuania - they escaped in time.
There are quite a few on this board too.

>It's a South Africa/Austria kike thread

your pic is misleading, (((user)))
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_casualties_in_World_War_II#Civilian_Casualties

I'm not the usual Saffabro.

see the pic at

the door leads from c to b

b was built after the gassing stopped and the SS began converting it to an air raid shelter

THEY GUS BOYS THEY DINDU NUFFIN, THEY GIVE DEM JEWS PROGRAMS AN SHIT

>da j00z!

not an argument

>>death of thousand prisoners by lack of supplies and carelessness

it wasnt careless thought. It was a deliberate action. Stop trying to ignore the mass starvation in the warsaw ghettos.

3) Gas chamber and crematory capacity

4) Crematory fuel consumption

The math itself is impossible. Lets disregard the lack of ash fields or bodies.

Lets use conservative estimates as well. We'll go by the original 6 million and not the current 11 million, we'll subtract 1 million as dead by squads or disease prior.

There were 7 death camps operating roughly from 1941 to 1945, not even the full year of 1945 but hey, lets be conservative.

5 million divided 4 years is 1,250,000
Lets day these were REALLY industrious jews not starving running these crematoria. Like, they were athletes working non-stop 365 days a year.

1,250,000รท 365 = 3,424 rounded down.

3,424 daily deaths spread over 7 death camps (many not built until late in the war) equals 489 deaths daily. 489 cremations in a 24 hour period per camp.

Fuck off you stupid kikes.

yes, it is a pic from dresden

Dresden civilians being cremated in a distinct mass cremation style involving train tracks

Are you saying the picture is a hoax?

if no, why do you have trouble accepting corpses were cremated similarly in Treblinka, Belzec and Sobibor? If it worked in Dresden, it should have worked there too

>They all get in IRC to shill on Sup Forums

By the way if anyone wants concise revisionist views, don't buy into the Jew's incessant shilling youtube.com/watch?v=7dxsVSzL4HE

The first step to war is a boycott. Crippling an economy is an act of war.

>"I saw everything," he writes. "The gas chambers, the cremations, the selection process. One and a half million Jews were murdered in Auschwitz. I was there."

web.archive.org/web/20070302085046/http://www.spiegel.de/international/spiegel/0,1518,355188,00.html

notice how many (((survivors))) claim having a personal experience with Mengele
Seven Dwarves of Auschwitz level propaganda.

Here's some non hoax-o-cost information.
Just remember, everything Jews do is justified by their big myth.