How good is The Young Kino

Mason Martin
Mason Martin

How good is The Young Kino

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Jacob Gutierrez
Jacob Gutierrez

very

Elijah Turner
Elijah Turner

The most dreadfully boring tv series I've ever seen and I've seen The Secret Life of an American Teenager.

Jonathan Rogers
Jonathan Rogers

Why would you call something Kino if you've never seen it? Are you retarded?

Jonathan Clark
Jonathan Clark

WAH I'M AN ATHEIST POPE
WAH I'M GOING TO PRAY TO GOD TO KILL SOMEONE
WAH I DON'T NEED ANY HELP
WAH I NEED MY MENTOR'S HELP

It was truly awful. No interesting characters. Wait, scratch that. The guy that gets send to America is the only remotely interesting character. You're a pleb for liking this show. Next to Rome, The Sopranos and The Wire, this show will go down as one of HBO's worst.

Landon Russell
Landon Russell

WAH I'M AN ATHEIST POPE

Stopped reading there. If you did watch it you didn't even understand it on a most basic level.

Hunter Diaz
Hunter Diaz

He admits to the confidant that he's an atheist and when the confidant freaks out he says he was only joking.

Wyatt Ortiz
Wyatt Ortiz

I'm up to episode 8 your eminence

Isaac Green
Isaac Green

He admits to the confidant that he's an atheist

no he doesn't. Stop making shit up and watch the show again

William Gonzalez
William Gonzalez

this show was goat

my favorite show after Hannibal fite me

Mason Barnes
Mason Barnes

im on episode 3, downloaded it like a day ago.

so far its really good. im expecting more each episode but i feel like i might get a dud episode soon.

Eli Torres
Eli Torres

it was in the first episode

Anthony Phillips
Anthony Phillips

the ending of episode 4 is beautiful

Lincoln Morgan
Lincoln Morgan

second one
but immediately after we see him pray for forgiveness to god especially for saying he doesn't believe in him
he is clearly going through a crisis of faith, that's one of the plot points

Nicholas Gray
Nicholas Gray

i literally cried when he made a speech in africa

Nicholas Morgan
Nicholas Morgan

Great, fuck knows why we're getting a second season though.

Jaxson Butler
Jaxson Butler

Describe the plot

Jeremiah Bailey
Jeremiah Bailey

I really enjoy watching Jude Law act

Am I a homo?

Aaron Cox
Aaron Cox

typical yank

Aaron King
Aaron King

It's second all time only to the Sopranos

Logan Kelly
Logan Kelly

Yes

Jaxson Russell
Jaxson Russell

spoon-feed me

Nolan Baker
Nolan Baker

Oh well. Gonna go see Guy Ritchie's King Arthur flick and jerk off in the cinema I guess.

Aaron Gray
Aaron Gray

I prayed so hard I nearly shit my pants
Why does Jude Law slip into his English accent so hard on that line? Really ruins my immersion.

Jaxon Cooper
Jaxon Cooper

this show will go down as one of HBO's worst.
well good thing it's a SKY show then

Blake Sanchez
Blake Sanchez

It's actually a triumvirate between HBO, SKY and Canal+ headed by Sorrentino.
Yanks like to pass of everything as theirs though.

Hudson Jones
Hudson Jones

"atheist"
It's about his conflict of fate you fucking mongoloid

Oliver Evans
Oliver Evans

Voiello is sometimes see describing the plot to the handicapped kid.
This kid represents the American public and this is of course a metaphor showing how all Americans are retards that need the plot to be spoon fed to them by a narrator

Isaiah Lee
Isaiah Lee

truly kino

Nicholas Gomez
Nicholas Gomez

the next ep will make or break your opinion on the show

Ryder Anderson
Ryder Anderson

Best show of the decade hands down

Landon Lopez
Landon Lopez

holy kek

Landon Campbell
Landon Campbell

10/10

Jack Flores
Jack Flores

Not even American. I hated this fucking show. Watched all ten episodes because I watched five already and was too invested in it but I should have dropped it and moved on. The pope actually kills a nun in Africa instead of excommunicating her, letting the authorities deal with her etc. Why doesn't he do this to the pedophiles in the church instead?

Logan Kelly
Logan Kelly

is he letting out some holy incense?

Adam Anderson
Adam Anderson

An American cardinal who is relatively young for the position gets elected Pope, and proceeds to go through a crisis of faith as he comes to terms with his own personal failings and the corruption that infests his beloved Church.

He overcomes his base, mortal instinct to hide from suffering behind zealotry and coldness, growing to truly appreciate the oft-overlooked 7 Heavenly Virtues of the Christian faith and finally fulfilling all the requirements for beatification as a Saint

Chase Hernandez
Chase Hernandez

pahaha

Zachary Lewis
Zachary Lewis

Great if you're Jude Law and everybody's praising you for your performance. Personally I think it's just fucking weird.

Nathaniel Martin
Nathaniel Martin

Just finished marathoning the whole thing
Should have got 13 eps desu

Lucas Mitchell
Lucas Mitchell

fate

you fucking mongoloid

Dominic Baker
Dominic Baker

You know Leftovers or Americans or whatever piece of shit you're currently watching? Now imagine if it was actually good. The Young Pope is even better than that

Ryan Nguyen
Ryan Nguyen

we don't know what he prayed for in that scene - they played music over the monologue - you should direct your anger at God, instead

Carson Cruz
Carson Cruz

how are you enjoying 13 reasons why?

Levi Robinson
Levi Robinson

WHAT WAS THE POINT ?
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Chase Hernandez
Chase Hernandez

Pope Francis would never say that.

Ryan Harris
Ryan Harris

You know Leftovers or Americans or whatever piece of shit you're currently watching? Now imagine if it was actually good. The Young Pope is even better than that

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Michael Parker
Michael Parker

God loves but we can't understand how

Nicholas Nguyen
Nicholas Nguyen

THAT YOU SUCK DICK ALL DAY
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Xavier Thomas
Xavier Thomas

I'm not. Do you really take me for one of those harelips who follows a series just so they can bitch about it on Sup Forums?

Ryder Barnes
Ryder Barnes

Holly Jej.
Americans in suicide squad.

James Parker
James Parker

comparing Leftovers to The Young Redditor

Nicholas White
Nicholas White

Can you stop you fucking pleb?

Andrew Martinez
Andrew Martinez

I was only one of them
Not an answer
What did the baby pile mean? What was the significance of nothing really happening in the last couple episodes?

Joshua Martinez
Joshua Martinez

redditors don't even like the young pope, it's too complex for them; hence why the dedicated sub is tiny. The Leftovers on the other hand is reddit bait.

Gabriel Cruz
Gabriel Cruz

How was it too complex?

Jackson Ramirez
Jackson Ramirez

It wasn't meant as an answer, you dick-hungry faglord

Ryder Rodriguez
Ryder Rodriguez

The Young Pope?

More like The Young Dopes who watch this stupid show

Lincoln Mitchell
Lincoln Mitchell

So THAT'S how he got superpowers

Isaiah King
Isaiah King

whatever you want it to be?

he was actually God at then at the end it all came tumbling down tumbling down tumbling down

Levi Miller
Levi Miller

the pile of babies was a metaphor for the all the orphans and the young pope crawling out from them is his starting point

Noah James
Noah James

What did the baby pile mean?
Innocence, the state of willing childhood the priests stay in according to Lenny. It also has significance because of the paedophile plot

What was the significance of nothing really happening in the last couple episodes?
That you need to pay more attention or stick to Game of Thrones

Gavin Young
Gavin Young

Kino
fuck off back to where you came from

Jacob Anderson
Jacob Anderson

see

The Young Pope received positive reviews in the UK, Ireland, and Italy. Jude Law's performance has garnered praise by Jasper Rees of The Daily Telegraph, while the Italian weekly Catholic magazine Famiglia Cristiana objected to "caricature-like characters created to appeal to an American audience".
On U.S. review aggregator Metacritic, it has a rating of 69, indicating "generally favorable reviews."

John Lee
John Lee

But he's still a zealot and he's still hiding at the end. Just now his inner circle starts talking about how magic he is.

Is it NOT about a Pope? Is the whole thing a metaphor for catholics or what in the fuck happened? The corrupt dudes are still pretty much around it's not like we're seen him purging shit. They barely even touch kid diddling.

He acts like a radical zealot, hides out for awhile, has some family issues, then everyone talks about how he's magic.

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Samuel Torres
Samuel Torres

On U.S. review aggregator Metacritic, it has a rating of 69
Luke Cage has a 79%
Can someone just nuke that memecountry please? Thanks in advance

Jeremiah Robinson
Jeremiah Robinson

How does this explain how it was too complex?

I thought it was too vague and self-important and meandering and crammed with probably a bunch of shit that you have to be a catholicfag to know what they're alluding to.

Zachary Butler
Zachary Butler

Indeed, Although it doesn't help HBO bought up all the related subs & set them to private. Nobody talks about it on Reddit because the sub is hard to find.

It's like /r/youngpopefire or something isn't it?

Charles Adams
Charles Adams

So is that the subtext? That it's actually about God? That Jude Law is God? What does his orphanage brother represent? What about his orphanage momsister? What about the italian guy?

Asher Adams
Asher Adams

Well he did do magic

Joseph Anderson
Joseph Anderson

He's the vicar of christ and a saint

Jonathan Reyes
Jonathan Reyes

no it's whatever you want it to be - i have my own interpretation, doesn't mean it's right or wrong, it's just how I see it - you can have one too!

John Sanchez
John Sanchez

Did he? And even if he did, what was the fucking point? It's made clear throughout the series that he's pretty much scared away everyone from the church. What's the point of being magic on a sinking ship?

Is that the point?

How much of the literal plotlines where there because of their subtextual metaphors? Was everything in the show supposed to be read as having underlying thematic meaning? Because I just wasn't grasping what the message was the whole fucking time, and then it just kind of ended.

What is the significance of his priestbrother banging whoars and getting killed by gangsters?

What is the significance of his momsister, and other than as a growing up thing was there more meaning to her leaving?

Like there's so much meandering boring normal life personal drama shit and then everything else is some goddamn metaphor.

Wyatt Reyes
Wyatt Reyes

fucking hated that show so much holy shit

thanks for reminding me

Justin Gray
Justin Gray

His misunderstood in this scene.
He meant that he doesn't trust in God's plan, but he KNOWS God exists.

Brayden Hall
Brayden Hall

Was everything in the show supposed to be read as having underlying thematic meaning?
Yes

Wyatt Barnes
Wyatt Barnes

No the subtext is the relationship of the faithful with God and His infinite silence. This relationship parallels with the relationship of Lenny with his parents, also infinitely silent but infinitely present. Also with his first girlfriend, who he kept writing letters. "Absence is presence", that's the subtext. He builds his papal policy around this concept and then starts the reevaluate his position after the things he goes through in the show, learning to deal with loneliness and lack of closure, especially with God. He had the love of God with him all along even if He wasn't present. Same thing can't be said about his parents though

As he finds God's love he starts to come to terms with the fact that he may be a saint too

Luis Reyes
Luis Reyes

Stopped watching when he promotes degeneracy to an audience even though it was a dream and smokes like a chimney

Xavier Moore
Xavier Moore

What about his tax policies?

Juan Lewis
Juan Lewis

90's born queer kill yourself

Aiden Rivera
Aiden Rivera

what was the fucking point?
To trigger redditors like you exposing them to true art

Cooper Hall
Cooper Hall

A lot of people who talk about this show seem to not really understand Catholicism.

I went to a catholic school but don't fully understand all of it. It'd be interesting to talk to a priest (who likes film/television) about the show for what they think

I'm an athiest now but Catholic is a kino religion , aesthetically that is.

Noah Sanders
Noah Sanders

But it's never even made clear if he believes in God again at the end. He's basically a sociopath. Is the whole show about narcissism? Is that the point of having him basically scare everyone away from him while surrounding him with enablers that call him magic?

no it's whatever you want it to be
That works when it still feels like the creator was making a point. 2001 or The Shining are open to interpretation but everything in them is presented from a confident, focused voice. Magic Pope Show didn't have that to me.
you can have one too!
but my interpretation is that they made an annoyingly vague vanity show for an actor to try to win an award and never bothered finishing the fucking story, hoping people would just say "it's open to interpretation."

Christopher White
Christopher White

Nice

Adrian Perry
Adrian Perry

Have you seen Sorrentino's other stuff? His body of work gives an insight into how he presents stuff on screen, it might help with interpretations.

You can say that it's annoying and that the magic pope show didn't seem like it was open to interpretation - that's literally you're interpretation. You're perfectly right to go with auteur theory here if you want. I feel like the show uses the idea of faith as a metaphoric bedrock, and because faith in and of itself is an interpretation, the show can be as well.

But yknow whatever - I'm not good at the kino

Christian Bell
Christian Bell

I think you are the worst pleb I've seen in this god forsaken board

Nicholas Kelly
Nicholas Kelly

He didn't basically send Cardinal Dussolier to his death by the Cartel leader

Yeah ok

Ryan Harris
Ryan Harris

The threads have been ruined ever since the Americans had a chance to watch this kino. They're truly the plebs of Sup Forums

Isaiah Morales
Isaiah Morales

too vague and self-important and meandering and crammed with probably a bunch of shit that you have to be a catholicfag to know what they're alluding to

This is exactly the response that producers are alluding to when they say, "It is too complex for American viewers". In the rest of the world, you don't actually have to be a Catholic to know a few things about Catholicism, for example, and you don't watch a character go through the arc of a Greek tragedy and scratch your head while saying, "Yeah but why didn't anything happen? Who was the bad guy? Did he die?".

Chase Brown
Chase Brown

stop posting you fucking idiot

Daniel Campbell
Daniel Campbell

part of the holy trinity of kino-this, sopranos, and wire

Jordan Rogers
Jordan Rogers

he tells him not to go you retard

Leo Wilson
Leo Wilson

then what was the whole gestalt?
so how much of the show relied on knowing all the catholic fan canon?

And I can definitely appreciate that there was a recurring "absence" motif, the biggest imo that you didn't mention was his refusal to be a public figure etc.
He had the love of God with him all along even if He wasn't present.
So basically he's an atheist saint? When did he convert back to believing after he was established in the first half as not really believing?
Born in 87. Not an argument faggot.
redditors
You're a cringey nigger that's going to die alone and bitter if I see you irl I'm going to garrotte you with razer wire and face fuck your neck hole and my cum is going to shoot out of your mouth you bug fucking faggot. Then I'm going to stomp on your face until it concaves and throw your fat body into the sea.

Lucas Long
Lucas Long

Is the whole show about narcissism? Is that the point of having him basically scare everyone away from him while surrounding him with enablers that call him magic?
Do you just ask the first thing it comes through your head? Just throwing random shit to pretend the show doesn't make sense instead of you being almost clinically retarded and cannot deal with a show that doesn't spoonfeds you every single plot point despite having clear character arcs and great themes to guide you through it?

Brody Cook
Brody Cook

You're dumb and fat

Christian Nelson
Christian Nelson

Shit was pretentious as fuck. One of the only shows I dropped so fast.

I can get why Sup Forums would like it.

Tyler Davis
Tyler Davis

wire
fuck off nigger

Juan Johnson
Juan Johnson

Another amerifat

William Cooper
William Cooper

Not American, nice try.

Jordan Butler
Jordan Butler

Tell me, Sup Forums, Lazio or Napoli?

Jayden Ortiz
Jayden Ortiz

HURR DURR IF YOU DON'T LIKE THIS SHOW YOU MUST BE AMERICAN

Australian here. The Young Pope is pleb-tier.

Levi Hernandez
Levi Hernandez

fucking hell user, how can you be so retarded at your age?

Cooper Phillips
Cooper Phillips

Another fat in any case

Dominic Reed
Dominic Reed

implying theres a difference

Adrian Hughes
Adrian Hughes

Australian

Even worse.

Gavin Nelson
Gavin Nelson

shoo shoo amerikanec

Asher Perez
Asher Perez

Neither

Asher Martinez
Asher Martinez

I'm Australian and this guy is lying, nobody here is this much of a pleb and can still afford internet capable of transmitting text.

Jonathan Hughes
Jonathan Hughes

cringe

Charles Phillips
Charles Phillips

so how much of the show relied on knowing all the catholic fan canon?
Nothing, God is definitely silent in all religions. Catholics just write Encyclicals about it
So basically he's an atheist saint?
At first. God gives you and not asks in return, not even faith in the case of Lenny. Lenny says that he doesn't believe in Him but that he's not talking about His existence, which he knows for sure to be real, but His ability to be a good force in the world basically. He's knows God is real but he's still angry about his parents leaving him alone. In the end he understands a little more and becomes a little more worthy of the almost one-sided love God has for him

Tyler Davis
Tyler Davis

Roma

Gavin Garcia
Gavin Garcia

I'M SO SMART I GET THE SHOW SO MUCH I UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING ABOUT IT TO SUCH AN EXTENT THAT WHEN A PERSON ASKS REASONABLE QUESTIONS ABOUT IT I TALK SHIT AND WHINE ABOUT HOW THEY'RE QUESTIONING ME BECAUSE I'M ACTUALLY TOO THICK TO HAVE AN ANSWER AND I'VE JUST BEEN PRETENDING TO "GET IT" BECAUSE IT MAKES ME FEEL SMART.
Have you seen Sorrentino's other stuff?
Nope. Is it all catholicfag shit?
You can say that it's annoying and that the magic pope show didn't seem like it was open to interpretation - that's literally you're interpretation.
Of course it's open to interpretation. My interpretation isn't that it's uninterpretable, my criticism is that there was clearly an author's intent but I think it was muddied and the story wasn't satisfactorily resolved. The back half of the episodes kind of grinded the narrative to a halt and then the show was over.
kys dipshit.

Matthew Price
Matthew Price

The Young Pope is pleb-tier.
It truly is but not in the way to think it is

Evan Powell
Evan Powell

30 years old
knows nothing about the religion that shaped the western world
depends on exposition to determine meaning in film
threatens anonymous strangers on the internet, telling himself he's being ironic when he's really just stroking his tiny e-peen to keep from crying

Don't be like user here.

Nathan Long
Nathan Long

Here you go

youtube.com/watch?v=cKUKWTkf5vs

Lucas Russell
Lucas Russell

Remember that scene where at the end they had to explain to the americans what Greenland was? That dancing was kino/3.14

Jaxson Reyes
Jaxson Reyes

youtu.be/isgydm69YLE

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Her dancing at the end is bliss.

Connor Ramirez
Connor Ramirez

I'm kind of mixed on it.

I really enjoyed the characters, even though I disagree with their ideology in a number of places, I can understand why they are this way and they become really sympathetic interesting by the end.

Then there's, "I'm sexy and I know it."

Bentley Moore
Bentley Moore

HIVE MIND

Alexander Lopez
Alexander Lopez

A E S T H E T I K I N O

Henry Hughes
Henry Hughes

youtube.com/watch?v=bNlfy82h81Y

What is more beautiful, my love? Love lost or love found? Don't laugh at me, my love. I know it, I'm awkward and naive when it comes to love, and I ask questions straight out of a pop song. This doubt overwhelms me and undermines me, my love. To find... .or to lose? All around me, people don't stop yearning. Did they lose or did they find? I can't say. An orphan has no way of knowing. An orphan lacks a first love. The love for his mama and papa. That's the source of his awkwardness, his naiveté. You said to me, on that deserted beach in California, "you can touch my legs." But I didn't do it. There, my love, is love lost. That's why I've never stopped wondering, since that day: where have you been? Where you are now?
And you, shining gleam of my misspent youth, did you lose or did you find? I don't know. And I will never know. I can't even remember your name, my love. And I don't have the answer. But this is how I like to imagine it, the answer. In the end, my love, we have no choice. We have to find.

Matthew Taylor
Matthew Taylor

This is exactly the response that producers are alluding to when they say, "It is too complex for American viewers".
when you can't handle criticism for your vagua directionless plot blame the audience got it.
In the rest of the world, you don't actually have to be a Catholic to know a few things about Catholicism
I'm not American and I understand the basics of Catholicism. I've been to the Vatican. I've seen a Pope. I'm well travelled. Sorry if I don't know OT-VIII level deep lore that apparently explains how a do-nothing show is secretly deep
and you don't watch a character go through the arc of a Greek tragedy and scratch your head while saying, "Yeah but why didn't anything happen?
BECAUSE THINGS HAPPEN IN GREEK TRAGEDY. NOBODY STABBED THEIR FUCKING EYES OUT WITH CLOTHING ACCESSORIES IN THE NEW POPE.

Nolan Roberts
Nolan Roberts

The soundtrack is god tier, truly blessed.

Henry Bell
Henry Bell

prays to save some random woman
prays to get rid of a nun
prays to make a woman get pregnant
prays to get elected
doesn't pray to save Spencer's, his father figure, life

Why was Lenny such an asshole

Eli Sanchez
Eli Sanchez

Then there's, "I'm sexy and I know it."
Which is a touch of absolute genius. They throw you this montage about the vanity and shallowness of the Pope, dressing up while listening that shit, and immediatly after they show you giving a speech about shutting the church to the masses and going back to the middle ages with a dreary, somber music in the background.

Juxtaposition is the name of the game

Mason Anderson
Mason Anderson

I'm not American and I understand the basics of Catholicism

Clearly not, you insecure little babyman

It's ok, not everyone can have good taste, it would defeat the point

Dylan Perry
Dylan Perry

What's the purpose in undermining the Pope so much?

Every other episode he does something silly or vain, and acts smug about it, or indignant at his failure.

Xavier Baker
Xavier Baker

He, like most men, secretly resented his 'father'.

Wyatt Jones
Wyatt Jones

But we already gave you the themes and subtexts, a lot of stuff happens, the characters change, the Church change. Fuck some characters die, others get exiled. What do you want? Explosions or dragons or Iron Man fighting a robot or something? If you still think this is a "do-nothing" show then you're deliberately obtuse or just too pleb for this

Joshua Cox
Joshua Cox

Almost like hes human and all humans are imperfect sinners

Liam Rodriguez
Liam Rodriguez

Bait

Joseph Davis
Joseph Davis

vanity is a major part of the Church since public image is important in world spanning religious institutions and an interesting paradox in Christianity which portrays it as a sin.

Adrian Hughes
Adrian Hughes

He has literal God powers to smite people and heal the sick.

Jonathan Walker
Jonathan Walker

He's arrogant. He thinks by shutting the doors of the church people would love God the same way he loves his parents, who also ghosted him when he was a kid. He thinks he's going to save the church by doing this and you need to look the faces of the cardinals and listen to the music and the general athmosphere of the scene to know he's fucking it up, although he's too proud to realize it

Luis Myers
Luis Myers

Do you just ask the first thing it comes through your head?
Sure. Do you find yourself unwilling to use critical thinking strategies a lot? I thought the show was open to interpretation. If no interpretation is wrong than I interpret the show to be about delusional narcissistic self-importance, which may explain why the people that like it do.
spoonfeds
lol I'm explicitly asking for all you based know-everything anons to spoonfeed it, and you've clearly demonstrated that you can't. Which is why you're flailing around and attacking me instead of actually demonstrating that you know anything at all.
I weigh 150 and I've taken 4 clinical IQ tests, one of which was a little higher than my current weigh.
Said the person that can't actually explain what the show is about.
ANYONE THAT ASKS QUESTIONS IS DUMB ASKING QUESTIONS IS FOR IDIOTS I JUST CONFIDENTLY MAKE THINGS UP AND NEVER LOOK BACK.
can't explain shit.
Nothing, God is definitely silent in all religions.
So it's about how to be religious when the thing you believe in doesn't exist. Got it.
God gives you and not asks in return
Other than that you're born cursed and you have to pledge your soul to him and give money to his enforcers and you're told that doing the things you're biologically hardwired to do is evil.
In the end he understands a little more and becomes a little more worthy of the almost one-sided love God has for him
But he's still sent everyone else fleeing from the church. He's still a hardline dickhead that doesn't make public appearances at the end, good for him that he feels a little bit more worthy but he's the fucking Pope. He's the shephard and he's abandoned his sheep. It's a show about a Young Pope, and he acts like a shitty Pope the entire show, but oh he feels better about himself and like one person heard his nice speech at the end.

Adrian Wright
Adrian Wright

How was he undermined? I didn't feel it at all. Lenny is a saint and as such not really a human being, through the course of the season he learned to understand and love humans more. I didn't feel at all that silly stuff undermined him, it's just who he was, the good with the bad.
Spencer was saved on his deathbed, he wanted peace/to accept god/whatever he needed he didn't need to live more to get that.

WAH I'M AN ATHEIST POPE

He isn't though as he explained later on.

You know that the show is good when character's statement needs a nuanced explanation in order to make people understand it, most of the schlock has only a surface level of "muh revenge" characters that never even considered to truly understand themselves and what guides them. Lenny on the other hand through self-inquiry understood that just saying "i believe" is superficial and irresponsible. The world is filled with superficial stuff as it is.

He changed through the season though, it's beneficial to look at lenny as a man with a very rough and flawed plan who occasionally gets lucky but in any case does what he thinks is right at the moment even if his thoughts end up being shit.

James Mitchell
James Mitchell

No, God has those powers. He loves Lenny so much that He answers his prayers, even though Lenny is a sinner that even doubts His existence. (Hint: Lenny is a metaphor for all people)

Jonathan Evans
Jonathan Evans

edgy faggot teenager
can't explain what the show is about
attacks the person question it
tells himself the person referencing American Psycho as a goof at a redditor is serious

Don't be like user here.
I could never be like you. You're retarded.

Easton Russell
Easton Russell

Bad.

Aiden Morales
Aiden Morales

Go tip your fedora elsewhere

Henry Martinez
Henry Martinez

You can buy reddits?

William Thomas
William Thomas

So it's about how to be religious when the thing you believe in doesn't exist. Got it.
Doesn't answer. Obviously if you can't even read, TYP is a little bit above your level
But he's still sent everyone else fleeing from the church. He's still a hardline dickhead that doesn't make public appearances at the end, good for him that he feels a little bit more worthy but he's the fucking Pope. He's the shephard and he's abandoned his sheep. It's a show about a Young Pope, and he acts like a shitty Pope the entire show, but oh he feels better about himself and like one person heard his nice speech at the end.
He literally gives a speech in front in plain daylight in the last episode. He literally says he's changing his ideas about homosexuals. He says he's softening all the ideas he lays out in the speech before the cardinals. He knows he's done all those things you say but by the end he has changed. For good. And that's why he's worthy. After changing. I hope you get it now user because I feel like I'm talking to a fucking child. It's character development, also the world has grown fond of him by then because of the love letter. Fuck sake mate just watch the fucking show

Evan Lopez
Evan Lopez

in front of the masses*

Jacob Gomez
Jacob Gomez

still not making any attempt to explain what the show is about
I thought it was visually pretty good and a lot of the dialogue was funny and well written. I'm asking what the fucking point was and the only thing you can muster is to impotently talk shit.
What do you want?
A meaningful ending. His policies that led the one wannabe-priest to kill himself are still happening at the end. He's still basically killing the Catholic church at the end by radicalizing it and scaring away all the fairweather catholics. Everything that he does is terrible for his followers, and he's still doing all that shit at the end. Oh but thank God the closing arc of the show is about his lackeys deciding he's a Saint.

And like, that whole plot with the dickhead holding the love letters for years depended entirely on his character not having bothered to fucking read them. That's just stupid.
If you still think this is a "do-nothing" show then you're deliberately obtuse or just too pleb for this
Gotta do something for 10 hours.

Eli Walker
Eli Walker

but there's already a lot of evidence to suggest that he alone understands the key to the church's revival. He has better perception than the cardinals and is very emphatic.

Parker White
Parker White

A meaningful ending
Well then you're going to love The Young Pope (2016) then

Christopher Jones
Christopher Jones

Rips off mad men

Angel Flores
Angel Flores

all the plebs in this thread

Hudson Carter
Hudson Carter

How good is The Young Kino
top tier

Easton Nguyen
Easton Nguyen

Which young would you pope?

by young I mean milf

Connor Hughes
Connor Hughes

fuck off cunt and go to bed

John Williams
John Williams

Agreed. Both shows have an aesthetic that I have never seen topped. I'm not sure if I can describe it without sounding completely pretentious, but it's like every shot (in both shows) could be a painting.

Nolan Martinez
Nolan Martinez

I was thinking of watching it but it's pretty much 50:50 ITT on whether it's good or bad so I won't.

William Davis
William Davis

Is Hannibal really that good? I watched a few episodes (I think I dropped it when they find some serial killer who makes angels with the flesh of his victims, I think it was) and it seemed too procedural for me but I love The Young Kino and I'm digging American Gods too

Jaxon Clark
Jaxon Clark

Doesn't answer.
Doesn't answer. Doesn't exist. Same diff.

Fair enough point about the end I misremembered there being people there if there where.
It's character development, also the world has grown fond of him by then because of the love letter.
Yeah because that's plausible. Dude made one public appearance using a wrestlemania voice, flipped out and hasn't been seen since while he takes the church policies back a few centuries and scares away everyone away but oh he wrote some letters at some point that makes up for him being a lunatic.

And again, the New York Bishop having never bothered to read the letters was just stupid writing. The entire letters subplot was fucking poorly executed.
Fuck sake mate just watch the fucking show
I did. It looked great and had well written dialogue but the overall experience was a fucking chore.

But there is one thing I may have totally misinterpreted, which is that I thought it was a one-off mini-series. Now I just looked and AV club is calling it season 1. The primary frustration I had, other than most of the creative choices the writers made out the gate, was that it was an unsatisfying conclusion to the story. So egg on my face if it goes 5 seasons and blows minds. As a standalone story I don't think it was worth the time.

kys. heaven awaits.

Evan James
Evan James

business milf like most french women has some crazy foot game.

Ian Butler
Ian Butler

It is a character drama where most of plot revolves around character interactions with one another, with themselves and the contemporary world around them with Catholic imagery.

Zachary Morgan
Zachary Morgan

Is Hannibal really that good?
yeah breddy good. Gets less procedural once it gets going and niggas keep getting put in the crazy jail and shit. Plus it has such a distinct aesthetic that is weirdly comfy and unsettling at the same time.

Blake White
Blake White

His policies that led the one wannabe-priest to kill himself are still happening at the end. He's still basically killing the Catholic church at the end by radicalizing it and scaring away all the fairweather catholics. Everything that he does is terrible for his followers, and he's still doing all that shit at the end.
But the discussion about the future of Catholic Church and wheter it should head in conswrvative or liberal direction is literally happening in real life in Europe right now, the show just explored the concept. Maybe you dont have the cultural code to get that theme since youre American and dont have much connection to Church

Jayden Anderson
Jayden Anderson

It's time to stop posting son

Ian Cooper
Ian Cooper

Hannibal is fantastic. For the first two seasons NBC insisted it was a CRIMINAL OF THE WEEK show, and the way they do that is fantastic. The season 2 finale was the best kino I've ever seen. Season 3 itself is a massive wanky experimental piece of art and I love it. Get through the first season and by half way through s2 they drop killer of the week and you get the awesome Mason Verger plot.

pic related

Jose Ward
Jose Ward

Apparently since all the related subs are set to private. I read a while back HBO took them over so it wouldn't get spoiled because of the delay between European & American viewers

Jonathan Jones
Jonathan Jones

TRAN SUB STAN TI AAAAATION

Joshua Lee
Joshua Lee

lol after I'm done posting and resolve 2 of the primary issues I had "it's time to stop posting"
Maybe you dont have the cultural code to get that theme since youre American
lol le cultured eurofag. Probably been to more of Europe than you have dipshit.

And did you actually think pointing out that there's a real world issue connected to that plot issue is some deep "cultural" understanding? Of course the debate over the direction of the church is happening irl, dipshit. What isn't happening is a pope trying to make the church go back to the 1400's.
and dont have much connection to Church
You could have just said that you self important cultist. Sorry I was raised by secular doctors that didn't indoctrinate me with a bunch of old memes.

Carson Reed
Carson Reed

meant for

Xavier Flores
Xavier Flores

is your social worker inside that horse?

Liam Taylor
Liam Taylor

Yeah because that's plausible.

it is. It happened in my country

Oliver Nelson
Oliver Nelson

And again, the New York Bishop having never bothered to read the letters was just stupid writing.

But he did read them. just not all of them. He assumed that what he read would continue in the others.

Julian Richardson
Julian Richardson

Do you understand what "exploring the concept" means, or do burgers really take everything literally?

Christian Thompson
Christian Thompson

What did? You had a crazy Pope that pissed everyone off but then a bitter Bishop gave some notes he read to a journalist without reading them and then everyone read them and they liked the Pope after that? That happened in your country?

Levi White
Levi White

No, we had a politician who everybody hated (cheated on his wife, embezzled...), but then after the elections that he lost he retired and wrote a letter to all the people. It was from the heart and his popularity rose again.

Austin Johnson
Austin Johnson

Is this satire or are you that retarded?

Oliver Hill
Oliver Hill

You really think that ban on abortion and gay priests is some medieval stance? Holy fuck pal, those are literally from XXth century, along with masses in latin. Lenny wasnt as radical as you think

Joshua Wright
Joshua Wright

Do you understand what "exploring the concept" means
My question, at the onset, was WHAT WAS THE POINT BEING MADE? ALL THE CONCEPTUAL EXPLORING, BUT TO WHAT END?

Nobody is impressed by your ability to notice when something is "exploring" an obvious concept. That's something you self-important tryhard teenagers are struggling to handle here apparently.
or do burgers really take everything literally?
The entire thread has been me asking people to explain what they thought was the underlying meaning of the subtext. And primarily what I've gotten is dipshit children evidencing their inability to answer while telling themselves how special they are. Like what you're doing.

I get it. You're not that smart but you want to be. Nothing wrong with being a zero-sum tryhard. Who knows. Maybe you can fake it til you make it.

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Jaxson Rogers
Jaxson Rogers

I don't care about how relatively conservative you think his shit was, it was established over and over in the narrative of the show that what he was doing was insanely conservative by the other characters standards, and it was severely hurting the Church and having observable negative impacts on characters in the story.

I'm not the one that said he was reviving centuries old shit, the show said that.

Luke Butler
Luke Butler

ITT: One autist, post after post, proving to be deeply stupid, unable to grasp the most simple aspects or symbols, and questioning things that for brained people are understood and grasped without any difficulty

Many such cases on Sup Forums

Jordan Perez
Jordan Perez

Most of the things Pius brings back were standard Catholic practice prior to the 1950s.

Bentley Wilson
Bentley Wilson

severely hurting the Church
It wasnt. Not everyone thinks Church should be inclusive, some think it should be for the most devoted, like Lenny. People leaving church only strengten it in their opinion, because those who leave are of weak faith. Its a matter or opinion and your own relation to the Church

Joseph Bennett
Joseph Bennett

ITT: A bunch of catholicfag autists that can't articulate actual answers to basic devil's advocate questions about their fan fiction trash other than impotent ad hominems and self-aggrandizing.

I bet your brain is so big bro.

Isaiah Allen
Isaiah Allen

What questions? Write them again and I'll answer them for ya sug

Ryan Collins
Ryan Collins

One doesn't need to be catholic to not be a retard like you.

Easton Nelson
Easton Nelson

It was meant to show how much of the influence on church pope has. Sorentino said that before Francis was pope, he wanted to write Lenny as extremely liberal pope, to show contrast with real one. The show does not give you answers, because there are no objectively true ones, nor does it show ceeators point of view on the matter. It makes you ask to question of what Church and its relation oto faithful is and should be yourself. You were not raised catholic so the question is meaningless to you, thats the cultural code I was talking about

John Edwards
John Edwards

55 posters

what

Jack Green
Jack Green

I watched all the way up to his speech before the cardinals. It just felt like it was a good place to stop and I wasn't interested in finding out what happens next.

Jude Law was great, I'm just not as interested in Catholic political drama as I thought. Maybe I burned myself out by watching Silence around the same time.

Easton Gray
Easton Gray

Brutal. Will americucks ever recover?

Charles Harris
Charles Harris

Good point. I also watched them near each other and felt it was too much cath-related media.

btw, The Young Pope > Silence

Ethan Peterson
Ethan Peterson

nah I already bowed out a while ago. Don't really give a shit. Show was self-important cult propaganda and iamverysmart b8 clearly and I've been "shitting" for way too long at this point.
T. Catholicfag
This is a fair enough answer. the show is vague and pointless and ultimately underwhelming because catholicism is. Nevermind I take it all back the show is genius.

Shitposting aside I thought the show was ok. Most of the plot threads had frustrating aspects. From my godless heathen production industry and screenwriting pov it came off as superficial and self-important. And every catholic I know recommended it so I fully get that there's a "cultural code" I'm not getting but you're a delusional faggot if you think that has anything to do with Americans. Have you even been to America? We're brimming with christfags and their propaganda fiction about how to have faith in something that "doesn't answer back."

Josiah White
Josiah White

No, we had a politician who everybody hated (cheated on his wife, embezzled...), but then after the elections that he lost he retired and wrote a letter to all the people. It was from the heart and his popularity rose again.
weak minded people falling for a stupid campaign by a spin doctor

Nicholas Parker
Nicholas Parker

Show was self-important cult propaganda

what? Just how did you come to that conclusion?

Jason Murphy
Jason Murphy

you could have just said that you were bias going in and there was nothing that would have changed your mind that this show was good.

Lincoln Phillips
Lincoln Phillips

only Catholics can enjoy this show

You've outted yourself as a pleb

Adrian Harris
Adrian Harris

kek

Noah Powell
Noah Powell

Just not be stupid and you'll enjoy it just fine

Angel Walker
Angel Walker

But I wasn't biased going in I don't have really anything against religion or religious people. Just being a dick for shitposting porpoises.

But when the thematic subtext of the story depends on you being religious or having been religious to appreciate, you should probably have a more meaningful or interesting surface plot as well.

I wasn't biased going in but I'll totally admit that I was close as fuck to dropping the shit after his first speech and reveal that he's an insane fundamentalist. Having the end hint at him being willing to soften his stance after everyone sucks his dick about how much of a saint he is wasn't enough for me to make up for the frustration of watching some radical autistic asshole that doesn't even have faith make everyone miserable.

If they made a spin-off called The Young Imam that followed the exact same narrative plot and was shot by the exact same crew but about muslims none of you "cultured" european fucks would be unironically memeing about how great it is.

Ryder Morales
Ryder Morales

If they made a spin-off called The Young Imam that followed the exact same narrative plot and was shot by the exact same crew but about muslims none of you "cultured" european fucks would be unironically memeing about how great it is.
This is nonsense in so many levels.
But whatever, I won't try explaining again, you proved you don't get a lot of things, not only this show

William Ward
William Ward

actually I can almost guarantee most catholics would absolutely despise this show.

Christian Kelly
Christian Kelly

This post is why Europe will ALWAYS be greater than America

Grayson Allen
Grayson Allen

But I wasn't biased going in I don't have really anything against religion or religious people. Just being a dick for shitposting porpoises.

Well from what I assume were your posts it came across like you already made up your mind before going in. When the show was airing in Europe we had quite a few shitposters that claimed were atheists and only came into the thread to shitpost

Cameron Lopez
Cameron Lopez

some radical autistic asshole

lol if you think he's radical.

Luis Baker
Luis Baker

If they made a spin-off called The Young Imam that followed the exact same narrative plot and was shot by the exact same crew but about muslims none of you "cultured" european fucks would be unironically memeing about how great it is.

Because Islam is a part of Europe, but Christianity is not right?

Mason Johnson
Mason Johnson

Because Islam is a part of Europe, but Christianity is not right?
What? Are you retarded? You eurofags like it because it's your majority religion.
I do and he was and that was the entire point of the first half of the narrative. You apparently being an extremist faggot doesn't change that.
Well from what I assume were your posts it came across like you already made up your mind before going in.
Yeah, on this thread I made up my mind I would farm some (you)s. I actually did pick up some interesting things to think about buried under all the autistic screeching.

And I went into The New Pope actually pretty excited about it, based on the recommendation of my (happens to be Catholic) friend. I liked the visuals, I liked how they established him in the scene where the cooks made him everything and he was an abrasive dick. I even appreciated the feint they did where they show him daydreaming about being super liberal then pull the rug out when he actually does give his back2fundamentals speech. But then it was a lot of episodes where they talk about how much of a dick he is and he wanders around smoking and being weird and a few things happen that make him soften up a little and then everyone dies or leaves and they call him a saint and he gives an optimi

you don't know many catholics

This is nonsense in so many levels.
Yeah totally nonsense. Brown dude crawls out of a pile of brown babies. Youngest Imam ever will he lead his followers into the future? Oop, nope, he's preaching antiquated fundamentalism shit and being an abrasive dick and wandering around smoking cigarettes and being weird. Same same but muslim.

Alexander Allen
Alexander Allen

I like it because I grew up with it. I live 5 minutes away from a church and a cemetery. I live in that part of the town where the majority is either old or young. There's no in between. So growing up I spent quite some time being taught about religion. + I agree with a lot of this popes points, and I don't like the current real life pope

Landon Rogers
Landon Rogers

Imams aren't like popes. Remember, there is only 1 pope to over a billion catholics.

Christian Ramirez
Christian Ramirez

I do and he was and that was the entire point of the first half of the narrative. You apparently being an extremist faggot doesn't change that.

He would have been radical if he would have said he wanted to kill all gays. He just wanted to ban them from the church. Nothing wrong with that. If you think that's radical they what would you say about my country who banned gays from adopting children and marrying eachother

Evan Brown
Evan Brown

I'm an American but even I admit the American critical response to the show was fucking retarded
Hurr Wut? It's not House of Cards with crosses? I don't like it
Hurr Wut? It sometimes portrays Catholicism and conservative theology in a positive light? I don't like it

Jackson Evans
Jackson Evans

I just DL first season.
Was kinda on the fence but I always see here huge praise, I honestly can't see a life of one pope as something remotely dramatic, and I live 2 hours drive from Vatican.
And even now i feel kinda mneh(literally saw only scene where he crawls under the babies)watch but HBO + Jude Law will help me power through my suspicion.
What episode is THE one that hooks you into story?
I'm capable to endure 2-3 episodes if slowburner or great payoff.
What worries me ,its not Downtown Abbey type,because I can't stand those types of shows.

Daniel Scott
Daniel Scott

Who knew these companies even gave a shit about Reddit

Angel Hill
Angel Hill

episode 10 did it for me

Ian Brown
Ian Brown

*
Fuck , did I had to proofread my post first.
Short version
is .it like downtown abbey?
what ep hooks you?

Parker Sanchez
Parker Sanchez

No shit Imams aren't like Popes but since Islam doesn't have a single figurehead you get my fucking point. If you made a show about the most powerful imam or cleric in the world called The Young Imam and at the end of the first episode he's preaching fundamental radical shit you'd have fucking D R O P P E D that shit immediately.
He would have been radical if he would have said he wanted to kill all gays
A: You're arguing semantics.
B: The word you're thinking of is extremist.
C: I'm not sure how you arguing about the pope's relative radicality is an argument.

Regardless of your understanding of words he was acting radically by the standards of the narrative. The entire point was that he was taking the church down a radically conservative path.
If you think that's radical they what would you say about my country who banned gays from adopting children and marrying eachother
I'm sorry you live in a conservative religious nanny state user but I fail to see what you being disadvantaged and stupid has to do with anything.

And I'd say you're acting willingly stupid but I don't think that's the case unfortunately. His fundamentalism was established by the speech in the first episode, that they included the gay priest rule was an example of the effect he was causing. Did they not have good subtitles in your backwoods gook country or do you have a problem comprehending how words work?

Ryan Young
Ryan Young

You trolling?
Can you mention one show that's most like TYP?

Gavin Perez
Gavin Perez

ABSOLUTE
KINO

only plebeians disagree

Wyatt Perry
Wyatt Perry

This show was great, anyone who says otherwise is a troll

Austin Morales
Austin Morales

I'm sorry you live in a conservative religious nanny state

Slovenia is a liberal shithole user. We are the Sweden of the Eastern Europe

Alexander Watson
Alexander Watson

jude law is fantastic. v underrated

Isaac Richardson
Isaac Richardson

We are the Sweden of the Eastern Europe
Being the shiniest piece of shit in the trash pile isn't that impressive tbphwyf

Owen Lewis
Owen Lewis

unlike you we are white...

Liam Edwards
Liam Edwards

IM BEING ARCH the show

.....a shit.

Liam Brooks
Liam Brooks

It's not our fault, it's the leftist media. They will unanimously praise anything showing blacks in a positive light (e.g., Get Out and Hamilton).

Jacob Morales
Jacob Morales

lol
it's a euronigger says he's whiter than a blonde german WASP webisode.

Bet you haven't even had any skin cancer cut off yet you brown trashperson.

Dylan Barnes
Dylan Barnes

You trolling?
yes, I liked the cinematography from the start.
I started liking the story from ep.3 onward when he bests Voiello, the secretary of state, and declares his intentions to be conservatively aligned.
My favourite was ep.8 when he visits Africa

Hudson James
Hudson James

Get Out was really good and Hamilton was amazing though.

Only faggots that don't like it are triggered sjw-right cucks.

Mason Phillips
Mason Phillips

Arguably the best TV series made in the last decade.

Austin Thompson
Austin Thompson

He didn't kill her, he asked God to deal with her like she deserved.

Cooper Jenkins
Cooper Jenkins

board is filled with capeshit threads
same board didn't like the best TV show of the year and probably the best since Mad Men ended
Really makes me think

Jace Martin
Jace Martin

*tip fedora*
m'ladies

fedora+plebbit/10

Asher Johnson
Asher Johnson

I'd add Better Call Saul and Fargo to that piece of shit list too. Young Pope was an oasis in this desert of "prestige" television.

Jordan Torres
Jordan Torres

it's a user pretends he's white when in reality he's a mexican

William Jackson
William Jackson

BRAVISSIMO SORRENTINO

Luke Perez
Luke Perez

At least include the quoted post

Lucas Walker
Lucas Walker

nah

Xavier Butler
Xavier Butler

by the speech in the first episode
the made up speech in his dream?

Brandon Ortiz
Brandon Ortiz

For one thing it's cute that you don't understand that 90% of Sup Forums anons are white males.

Also cute that hoping I'm not a white person was the only comeback you can think of to defend the mountain of shit country you slithered out of.

Also cute how you just copied the greentext bit I did because you're THAT uncreative.

You are of a dirty mud people of little significance. Your country's largest export is dead eyed prostitutes that do butt stuff. You can watch our entertainment. You can meme on our korean lacrosse image boards. You can speak our fucking language.

But you'll never be white.

Cooper King
Cooper King

lol

Lucas Taylor
Lucas Taylor

The Young Pope and The Leftovers are equally good.

Brayden James
Brayden James

I honestly don't get how someone can like The Young Pope and not like The Leftovers or vice versa when both shows are maximum spiritual kino.

Lincoln Hernandez
Lincoln Hernandez

The Young Pope is everything that The Leftovers wants to be. The Leftovers is vapid nonsense.

Josiah Kelly
Josiah Kelly

american interpretation of the show

Zachary Miller
Zachary Miller

we will never experience the glory of 2016 TYP threads again.

Oliver Lopez
Oliver Lopez

t. Juanito Hernandez Jones

Samuel Lee
Samuel Lee

I still can't get over the number of idiot American critics who thought the whole with was a Trump allegory.

Elijah Price
Elijah Price

Sup Forums hates TYP now

what the fuck

Chase Reed
Chase Reed

The majority like it

Brandon Powell
Brandon Powell

Idiot fedora Americans don't like it, and they're quite vociferous about it for obvious reasons. Unfortunately it does mean we can't return to the glory days of TYP threads.

Ryder Flores
Ryder Flores

pretentious

I have never seen something as earnest, sincere and unpretentious as this show. Fuck off.

Jace Rogers
Jace Rogers

No shit Imams aren't like Popes but since Islam doesn't have a single figurehead you get my fucking point. If you made a show about the most powerful imam or cleric in the world called The Young Imam and at the end of the first episode he's preaching fundamental radical shit you'd have fucking D R O P P E D that shit immediately
But there is nothing remotely comparable to the pope in other religions. Islam used to have caliphs, and sorta has one now but probably not for long. As for fundamental radical shit, lmao. There is no need to make a thought experiment about a radical imam because the vast majority of them are already radical. I think a lot of the idea of this show is ponder how much a single man's character can shape the church. The pope is simply a tier above any other religious authority figure in this respect.

Cameron James
Cameron James

sweden of Eastern Europe
assuming this was meant as praise
I know the insult is so overused as to be meaningless, but you should seriously go back to fucking reddit, nigger

Jaxon Lopez
Jaxon Lopez

But there is nothing remotely comparable to the pope in other religions.

What about the Dalai Lama in Buddhism or the Japanese Emperor in Shintoism?

Islam used to have caliphs, and sorta has one now but probably not for long.

And even then it's not quite the same, since ISIS only makes up a tiny percentage of the world's Muslims. They're like evil Mormons.

Benjamin Flores
Benjamin Flores

some faggot or troll makes a post
some faggots or trolls shit on a good show
Sup Forums is one person and that person changed their mind

Cameron Edwards
Cameron Edwards

damn this show was good. maybe i should rewatch it.

Thomas Myers
Thomas Myers

dalai lama to buddhism
He is the Tibbetan equivalent of the Iranian ayatollah. A national post with some cultural significance in a very loose religion, not real executive power in the biggest organized religion around
Japanese emperor
Japanese nation and religion are so closely intertwined you can't view them as separate. Not to mention the order of magnitude difference in scale and locality.
ISIS tiny percentage
Yes, hence why I said "kinda"
only ISIS are radicals
The vast majority of muslims would be considered radical by the yardstick used in the west. Well, the old one before it got buried by politics.

Isaiah King
Isaiah King

I weigh 150 and I've taken 4 clinical IQ tests, one of which was a little higher than my current weigh

Holy fucking shit dude and you say you're 30 years old while posting this /r/cringe material?

Justin Diaz
Justin Diaz

Why are people claiming it was incredibly complicated or that it relied on previous knowledge of Catholic teachings to be understandable?

For me it was quite the opposite really. The creators' understanding of the papal infallibility was incredibly wrong, simplified pop-version of it. The Church social teaching was again reduced to just getting involved in people's sex life, while in reality it's so much richer. I'd love the pope to restate the older Catholic teachings on how charging interest is a sin, how capitalism isn't the prescribed Catholic economical model, and how liberal democracy isn't the preferred form of government. For instance in his conversation with the Italian prime minister.

That said, the show itself was 10/10.

Bentley Lewis
Bentley Lewis

Catholic political drama

When will this meme die? Are americans this stupid?

Levi Carter
Levi Carter

Japanese emperor
Actually, I gave it a bit more thought and I now think that this could make a quite comparable show. "The Young Emperor" coming to power, finding his nation in a slow state of social and moral decay, deciding to take up powers long thought given up and evoking laws deemed obsolete in order to try and reach some sort of salvation. The best part is, it has sorta happened with the Meiji restoration. Though since I am not a weeb I really don't know how much of that was Meiji's doing, and how much was just the machinations of the Japanese powers-that-be trying to adjust to a newly industrial world

Sebastian Brooks
Sebastian Brooks

He fuckoing Looks like Sam neilson, he's got the balding head too

Eh eheh

Jaxson Phillips
Jaxson Phillips

I'm glad someone appreciated that.

also back to redddit uuuu

Hudson Fisher
Hudson Fisher

What episode is THE one that hooks you into story?
It's not that kind of show. The hook is the writing, acting, themes, visuals, music, etc

Jose Cooper
Jose Cooper

Same board talks shit about The Leftovers :(

Alexander Adams
Alexander Adams

watch the second ep
Holy shit. Is Lenny a Lawfag?

Brayden Long
Brayden Long

This is objectively 100% wrong.

Jonathan Williams
Jonathan Williams

This board loves the Leftovers, and hates The Young Pope. That's all you need to know.

Gabriel Carter
Gabriel Carter

That is wrong too. And both are excellent shows. You can't talk shit about something you haven't seen so fuck off.

Caleb Baker
Caleb Baker

The Leftovers is pretentious shit from the writer of Prometheus that has absolutely nothing unique to say about existentialism or spirituality and presents its pseudo-profundity in the most portentous irritating way imaginable.

Aiden Cox
Aiden Cox

tfw actually thought the show was pretty good but am addicted to (you)s

Grayson Butler
Grayson Butler

It's not pretentious and I guess you haven't seen anything past season one so I won't take your opinion on what it has to offer on spirituality seriously. Arguably it deals way more on spirituality than TYP.

Joseph Cox
Joseph Cox

Also, citing the creator's past bad MOVIE work as argument for it being bad is retarded as fuck.

Evan Moore
Evan Moore

literally perfect

Andrew Young
Andrew Young

I'd love to hear your argument how an empty exercise in nihilism from the writer of Lost "deals way more on spirituality than TYP," but I don't think you could begin to formulate one.

Anthony Brown
Anthony Brown

A lot of people who talk about this show seem to not really understand Catholicism

The "Young Catholic Generation" reviews pretty much spend all their time bitching about how the show doesn't perfectly represent catholic dogma and how they are triggered by the characters having flaws like real human beings.

youtube.com/watch?v=toIveGPzL3s
youtube.com/watch?v=0akdjG-cgB0

Brandon Taylor
Brandon Taylor

This show has a lot of frames that would work perfectly as wallpapers.

Does anyone have some?

Jose Davis
Jose Davis

It's not nihilism (at least not only that) and I won't because you wouldn't understand it since you haven't actually seen the show and there's no point in discussing it seriously with someone who thinks "b-but muh Lindelof" equals serious criticism. Just stop calling shit something you don't know anything about.

Landon Lee
Landon Lee

That's a great argument. I loved the part where you assumed I haven't watched any of the show and also where the series based off a book that was a metaphor for the reaction to 9/11 isn't an exploration of nihilism.

Chase Wilson
Chase Wilson

I assume you don't watch the show since you have no idea what you're talking about and you wouldn't be saying such stupid things about it. And just because season one was adapted from the book doesn't mean the entire show shares its purpose, obviously.

Blake Russell
Blake Russell

some characters are nihilistic so the show is nihilistic

lel

Liam Hughes
Liam Hughes

americircumcised butthurt incoming

John Jackson
John Jackson

exercise in nihilism

Jason Moore
Jason Moore

4 clinical IQ tests

Please find somebody who cares, or go jerk yourself off in /gif/

Jackson Ward
Jackson Ward

being this jelly

Aaron Bailey
Aaron Bailey

REEE

stop making fun of americans

its not my fault my country is 300 million people big of course theres going to be a lot of retards.

TYP is the first good television since mad men

Chase Russell
Chase Russell

what? If you watched all the way to episode 8 and don't already at least like the show what is going to change?

Matthew Cruz
Matthew Cruz

the wire
does not belong anywhere near the other two.

Its the rick and morty of the mid 2000's

Ryan Mitchell
Ryan Mitchell

What did they mean by this?

Hudson White
Hudson White

bet you were born in the mid 2000s you contrarian faggot

Jacob Edwards
Jacob Edwards

contrarian
what a pathetic defense lol.

since you have no argument I have won the debate. The wire is confirmed shit

Nolan Lopez
Nolan Lopez

since you have no argument I have won the debate
lol there's no winners here m8

and you never made an argument.

was I right though? Bet I was you mewling tryhard.

Matthew Edwards
Matthew Edwards

I'm sorry sir but the debate is over.

Me:1
You:0

The wire is confirmed garbage.

Brandon Foster
Brandon Foster

not The Leftovers

Matthew Morris
Matthew Morris

stop trying so hard

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