>Encounter a pre-warp civilization
>Violate the prime directive nearly every time
>Encounter a highly advanced civilization with the ability to send them home or at least a vast distance
>Refuse their help or otherwise screw it up because of muh principles
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I wish she was a female Kirk instead of a female Picard.
>violate the prime directive consistently
>when questioned about it reply you never have
>have a huge bitch-fit at another captain doing the same just so he can get his people home
and they made this stupid cunt an admiral
>A-koo-chee-moya
>The people of my tribe
>I need to go on a vision quest
>Captain, can I open a casino in cargo bay 3?
>Develop infinite speed engine, that could by definition take them home instantly.
>Only downside is that you may mutate or "evolve" to use Brandon Braga's terminology into retarded salamanders in pic related.
>Develop cure against being turned into pic related
>Never speak of this new drive tech again and instead crawl back toward the federation on regular drive losing countless crew in the process.
It's the timehonoured tradition of "promoting" someone they can't otherwise get rid of into a do-nothing desk job where they can't cause more harm.
>Indians were savages until given their culture by pale-skinned aliens
>it's a seven of nine reverts back to the collective mentality episode
>it's a seven of nine directly defies Janeways orders with no reprocussions episode
Name 5 episodes where this happens you DS9shitposter
What the FUCK did they mean by this?
>Conceived as a potentially interesting character echoing back to the half-human Spock, but with the twist that she's a Klingon instead of a Vulcan
>She will have to learn to deal with her race's temperament in a situation that isn't ideal
>Ham-handed writing and plastic performance by the actress just makes her sound like a bitch
ALL HE WANTED TO DO WAS BE IN A SPACE RACE
>It's a holodeck episode
Well fiddly-dee
Always when the writers ran out of ideas. Oh shit the safety protocols were turned off!
>holodeck episodes
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>Implying I don't think DS9 is worse
Maybe we can talk about it over some baseball
they are the best episodes
the one where those aliens made of light enter Paris' program was great
My people weren't allowed to play baseball centuries ago, it would be better to choose another sport
its like poetry
Voyager had good holodeck episodes though, Captain Proton is kino
They should have left Chakotay and Janeway on that planet with the mysterious illness and had based Tuvok commanding the ship for the rest of the way home
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The one where the Hirogen kept hunting them down in different scenarios through the holodeck and killing them was pretty cool. Shame we didn't get to see the borg version of enterprise like they hinted Hirogen probably would've got wrecked.
I had finally saw the final 2 episodes on BBC America Monday night, and I have to say that was the MOST disappointing series finale I've ever seen.
The last 3 minutes, they get home, near Earth, - CHOP!...end.
So lazy, so careless, so underwhelmed as if they couldn't wait to end it so uneventfully.
No showing of the characters celebrating, or readjusting, just END - BAM! like chunking it into a dumpster.
yeah, VOY finale was the worst. even the second coming of Dukat was better.
They were already paying the Quantum Leap guy by then.
JUST
I really couldn't believe how disappointing it was.
There were so many different ways it could have been done, but instead it went for the least impactful ending as possible.
GOOD MAIN CHARACTERS:
1. Tuvok
2. Doctor
3. Neelix (Post-Kes)
4. Janeway
BAD MAIN CHARACTERS:
1. Neelix (child rapist)
2. Akoochemoya
3. Harry "wahhh why arent we home yet" Kim
4. Tom Paris
5. B'Elanna
GOOD GUEST STARS:
1. Andy Dick
2. ISHYGDDT
3. Michael McKean
4. Sarah Silverman
5. The Rock
HONORARY MENTIONS:
1. Barclay
2. Ensign Suder
3. Q
Seven of Nine should be on top - Best actress on the show, interesting character
Switch Tom and B'Elana with Janeway
>tuvok
I'm been a fan of TOS, and TNG for years, and didn't have access to UPN when it aired. So when it came to BBC America I finally had a chance to watch it.
It wasn't the best Star Trek, but sprinkled within there were some pretty good episodes, and there seemed to be some effort to expand Star Trek ideas that had begun in TNG.
It wasn't the best, but at times entertaining enough for Star Trek fans, and to end it that way seemed outright careless.
Reminder that the Prime Directive is not an inviolable rule.
It exists for captains to use at their own discretion to protect themselves from claims of not acting to prevent bad things happening. They are given a degree of discretion to act where they think it is justifiable but will never face consequences for doing nothing.
Janeway did nothing wrong
Well played.
>not using the smug Janeway pepe..baka
pretty sure you're only allowed to violate it if lives are at risk
>its a seven of nine acquires a human toilet episode
>hat was the MOST disappointing series finale I've ever seen.
you haven't seen ENT then
I can't stand Seven, the constant obnoxious attempts at shoving her ass/tits in the viewer's face just completely ruin the character for me.
Tom and B'Elanna are utterly forgettable characters, I don't even remember half the stuff they did. They made a good couple at least.
Tuvok and The Doctor carried the show
this The federation can't afford to solve all the galaxy's problems. They'd never get any exploring done if they had to stop every few days to free slaves or stop people being burned alive in an inquisition on some primitive world.
>it's a battled hardened Maquis terrorists integrate perfectly into Starfleet within a week episode
>it's a bad boy Tom Paris turns into a model officer within a week episode
The missed opportunities for character development are just all over the place in Voyager, it's really offputting as you spend more time thinking about "what if they actually used this opportunity to do x" instead of enjoying the show
I can't stand Seven's tryhard authoritative voice. The Medical Hologram is the best.
you have brannon 'hit the reset button at the end of every episode' braga to thank for that
The show did WAY too many episodes about the Doc hologram, and Chakotay's Indian shit.
What do people think of Bashir? I love him but he never seems to get a mention.
Star Trek usually deliberately eschewed personal drama and conflict because of Gene 'October Revolution' Rodenberry thought that by the 23rd or 24th of whatever century human beings would be much more mature and enlightened and would not squabble with each other over petty personalities differences and disputes.
This is especially evident in the TNG era. There is more personal drama in the Kirk=Spock=Bones triad and they tried to bring some of that back with Enterprise with mixed results.
>In the future humans will be super advanced and have done away with silly superstitious things like religion
>but you know those native americans were onto something and Chakotay's religion is totally real he just needed technology to access it or something
>Also Klingon Hell is real
*blocks your path*
>every alien species has a unified global language, culture and religion (which is usually real)
>humans have none of these things
But in TNG I was able to accept it because I had imagined that in the future they'd reached a point of having discipline as a Starfleet officer that they'd manage to work passed personal squabbles.
There was definitely a disconnect with the characters of TNG as being relatable, but I accepted it as, people of a different time. To me, that's part of the fictional aspects to imagine people being different in a different time where life's worries aren't food, and money.
If we traveled back in time I believe our ancestors would see us in different ways both positive, and negatively. They'd see us as more disciplined in some ways. That's how I saw TNG characters, as people in a future with completely different struggles.
it's a janeway tells the poor to fuck off already episode.
>Vulcan for the Vulcans
>Andor for the Andorian
>Kronos for the Klingons
>Earth for...everyone???
They say they are anti-speciest, what the are is anti-human. Say no to human genocide
I honestly wanted his character to die mid-series.
So did the guy playing him. He even demanded a huge raise in the hopes they would fire him and they just gave him the money instead.
>Councillor Troi was supposed to be a quadruple-breasted hermaphrodite.
Yeah, but a good portion of the Maqui crew were former or flunkie Federation recruits.
Additionally, that's why Janeway made Chakotay her First Officer. She wanted to quell that shit ASAP because it was something that could destroy the ship at any time if left unchecked.
Why do people hate Janeway? She wasn't s good as the other captains but she's still pretty solid.
misogyny
>has 3 months of romance and sex with Captain Janeway stuck on a planet
>Janeway pretends it never happened
Star Trek is set in the future. In our future Islam will have united the world.
I don't dislike her character, but to me it seemed she did far too much by the book when there was literally no way to implement punishment or consequences for officers that broke protocol.
At some point it was beyond ridiculous as she couldn't do without any of her crew.
I have to argue quite often with work colleagues as to why VOY is inferior to DS9 and TNG....
they just don't get it
DS9 was BORING!
>Deep Sleep Nine
Being THIS triggered over an episode
>jeri ryan
>literally gets obama elected
>won't show boobs during her prime
Holy shit...An hour, and 42 minute video pissed off about one episode from 1996.
That's from fanfiction.net, isn't it?
Every time Janeway says:"Chakotay", I drink a shot of whiskey. Gets me drunk fast.
>It's a teleporter accident episode
>It's a holodeck episode
>It's a Janeway and some nobodies that only appear in one episode episode
>It's a Naomi Wildman episode
Lt. Reg Barclay episodes were the best imo
I'd violate her prime directive and assimilate her with my cock if you know what i'm getting at
thanks obama
To be fair it was such a poor episode
>I traveled to infinite warp
>I existed in all moments of reality at once
>Now I'm sick
>Now I'm a Salamander
>Now the Captain is a Salamander
>Now we've had Salamander babies
>Cut to the Medbay, we're both cured off-screen and laugh about it
>The events episode is never brought up, referenced or hinted at again
Janeway's problem was that the writers never really had a handle on her character. She could be written as a starry-eyes idealist who would never dream of violating starfleet protocols or betraying federation ideals one week, or a cold, calculating pragmatist who would stop at nothing to get her crew home the next. Even Kate Mulgrew said she could make heads or tails of Janeway's characterization and literally started portraying her as bi-polar.
You almost had it. It's not that the writers never really had a handle on it, it's that two different sets of writers both wrote the character completely differently, which lead to jarring differences in how Janeway acts from episode to episode. You'll notice she doesn't has her bi-polar problem WITHIN any single episode, it's only when comparing episodes.
She's either:
>Motherly Captain, dutiful but with a soft side. Runs the ship like her crew is family. Nothing is more important than principles.
or
>BADASS SPACE BITCH
>it was such a poor episode
True, it wasn't that great. Although, much of Star Trek treats history blindly. That's a common criticism of Star Trek TV shows because they wanted you to be able to watch any episode without needing to watch previous episodes.
That is partly what has kept both TOS, and TNG still entertaining to this day. Many people don't like having start with 6 to 7 seasons to catch up.
Plus, the "restart" method allows the reruns to air at anytime, on any station without too much previous referencing. That's the nature of how TV worked back then, and some (myself included) enjoyed it that way.
Hello friends !
It's me, Neelix !
Try a bowl of my famous Leola-Root stew !
Meet my girlfriend Kes, she's about to turn 3.
Even though I spent most of my years alone on a scavenger ship, I'm really a family man at heart
I'm entrusted with supervising your children while you are busy with your duties aboard Voyager !
I've never seen anything Star Trek.
Should I just watch it all chronologically? Anything to stay away from?
Just watch the original series, it's really the only one that's good.
Keep your furry feet away from me, that's all I'm going to say.
speaking of which
What powered Voyager's holodecks? They often talked about Voyager's hologrid as an "independent subsystem", but they never showed what generated the power, like an ore processor or whatever. And those episodes where main power is offline but the holoprojectors are still operational or vice versa show the power systems to be incompatible, as otherwise they could share and ration energy by using transformers to convert the differing voltages and the system wouldn't be, as stated, offline.
Any episode of TOS is great if you can overlook the cheap sets. TNG is basically a modernized version with better sets (for the time) but not as brave as TOS.
ST:Voyager is a more episodic version of TNG. DS9 is BerMAN making his anti-Roddenberry Star Trek, and Enterprize is a shitty prequel to TOS that doesn't do well until the last season before it's cancelled.
>it's a scene that traumatizes you episode
>not as brave as TOS
>it's a wild west planet
>it's an indians planet
>it's an ancient greece planet
>it's a chicago mobster planet
>it's a nazi planet
>it's an abraham lincoln planet
>it's literally 1960s earth
>and again
such a bold vision of the future and never before seen worlds and civilizations!
...
There were many deeper philosophicals matter dwelt with in TOS - overpopulation, man's need to survive, and etcetera that I was referring to that TNG didn't even begin to scratch the surface of.
Alright, starting with TOS.
What about the movies? I've heard mixed things.
Are you serious? See? This is EXACTLY WHY IMDB message boards shouldn't have been closed.
The TOS movies? 1, and 2 were my favorites, but by part 3 it's all fan service to make money. After part 2, it's about seeing the "characters we love" over, and over in wacky adventures no matter how old they get.
They promoted her with good reason...Admirals don't Captain starships, she got a glorified desk job. Look at Kirk, he was never happy being Admiral as he wanted the captains position so he could do what he always wanted to do.
Watch TOS than the animated series than the movies, you can come back after for more recommendations
>it's a Doctor becomes a holographic justice warrior and they retread Measure of a Man AGAIN episode
> constant obnoxious attempts at shoving her ass/tits in the viewer's face
dayumn, get over it nigger
you're probably one of those foos who couldn't get over Ross Geller as Captain Sobel in Band of Brothers
Why did the Hirogen become manlets in the later episodes?
They took off the mask and could no longer be big guys. Truly a fate worse than death.
The Voyager Conspiracy is kino though
Put Kim in Good and we have a deal
>it's a tom paris episode
Maybe the one voyager original alien species I'd like to see again.
If you look closely, you can apparently see Beltran chuckling and rolling his eyes at how shitty it was.
>That didn't get me fired? How about this? Write something really fucking stupid, since you guys are so good at that. Something like...I'm fucking Seven of Nine. How about that?
>Wait, you're actually going to do that?