The BFG (Cosgrove Hall Vesrion)

So we've got the Spielberg version coming up, but is there any love on Sup Forums for the adaptation CH did back in 1989? It's always been one of my favourites. Good animation, good character design, nice music and some amazing landscapes.

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^Best copy I can find on Youtube, for your perusal. Sorry for the segmentation, the ones that are all in one piece seem to have a lower transfer quality.

Yes, this is that cartoon with the song about how much fun it is to fart.

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*version, Goddamnit

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Fuck, this movie's still one of my favourites.
They did a good job of making the giants legitimately terrifying.

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Fuck yeah, they were. Even to the BFG.

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The Whizzpopping Song, for those who just want to see a grandfatherly giant singing about flatulence.

The scene where the soldiers are trying to secure the sleeping giants is so goddamn tense.
Or when that scary bastard you just posted eats the kid

The Spielberg movie has a lot to live up to. The giants in the trailer look less scary, honestly.

Best giant bits (spoilers):

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They do a really good job of making the giants less massive monsters that have to be fought and more colossal, unstoppable terrors. The surreal feel of the movie definitely helps with that.
Honestly, the whole feel of giant country is so cool. The whole thing felt kind of like a prog-rock album cover.

What did you think was going on with the giant hand and the crown? I thought as a kid that there must have been some sort of slumbering Giant King underneath Giant Country.

I'm not even sure. The whole thing was a bit of a trip. I'm glad you linked this, I need to rewatch it. There's so much cool shit going on.

i hope they adapt this scene into the live action

Gonna post some landscapes when I find 'em, just 'cos.

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That old man looks familiar

From the Giant-Catching scene.

Is this giant a bit of a racist caricature, or am I racist for thinking so?

Anyway, this guy (Sergeant, I think) takes Topknot on alone to distract him. Ripping stuff.

they better

Might as well post Spielberg's trailer for comparison.

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Big noses and ears, with overarching eyebrows, are ugly.

As far as humans go, appearance is all race is. The fact that there are ugly people en masse, is why racism exists.

Because outside that, there are fewer differences between humans than different breeds of dog.

Just watched this. It's good.

But you just know the live action version will go nuts with the farting scene.

I haven't seen this film in forever but I still have the video somewhere.

Yup. Every kids' movie nowadays has to have one scene that goes completely overboard with the scatological humour. It's like, a rule, or something.

Can anyone who read the original tell what differences there are between the book and the animated movie?

It seemed a lot less... "mean spirited" than Dahl's normal work. No mean adults died in horrific ways.

Well, off the top of my head, in the movie they use the Trogglehumper nightmare to defeat the Fleshlumpeater instead of giving it to him as a joke earlier on, like they do in the book. Likewise, Sophie never receives a brooch from the queen and never uses it to trick the Fleshlumpeater into believing he's been bitten by a vindscreen viper, which is how they defeat him in the book. I think the movie version works better, to be honest.

As for the view of humans, well, the BFG still goes on his "only humans kill their own kind" rant (briefly) but the movie proves him wrong when the Fleshlumpeater tries to kill him at the end (because "[he] is like 'uman bean!"). I can't remember if that happens in the book of if the Fleshlumpeater only mortally threatens Sophie.

Additionally, the movie cuts out the mention of the time a bunch of drunkards fell into the giant enclosure and gave the incarcerated giants the best day they'd had in a long time. Mrs Clonkers the orphanage mistress still ends up being demoted to giant-keeper by royal order, though.

Actually now I say that, I feel like they might have played the Trogglehumper prank on the Bloodbottler in the book, not the Fleshlumpeater? I need to find me a copy.

Did they ever touch on why the BFG is so much smaller than the others? He really seems like a different species than the rest, just larger than human.

I always thought he was just stunted from choosing to only eat snozzcumbers, but then there's the ears and the fact that he seems to have civilised skills the other giants don't. In the book he could have learned those skills from watching humans, I suppose, but the movie makes him look like a throwback to or remnant of an older giant civilisation, what with the ruins everywhere in Giant Country and all.

>I think the movie version works better, to be honest.

yeah, I think the movie version sounds better too. When they first showed the nightmare I thought they would, like, lead the bad giant into a room where he stored all the nightmares and he'd get all of them at once or something.

>Fleshlumpeater tries to kill him at the end (because "[he] is like 'uman bean!")
huh, I hadn't realized that was why he did that, i figured he was just a lot meaner than the others and the BFG's betrayal made him snap.

Those shots of the orphanage and the town look almost exactly like the animated version. BFG's room, too. The Dream world looks really different though.

>a live action little girl farting

i fucking dread the fetish threads this will spawn

>Just realising now David Jason voiced BFG

Del Boy's voiced quite a few Brit cartoons hasn't he?

Oh god yes. He's been Danger Mouse, Duckula, the narrator on Angelmouse... I think he rather enjoyed working with Cosgrove Hall. Prolific guy.

>Those shots of the orphanage and the town look almost exactly like the animated version. BFG's room, too. The Dream world looks really different though.
Yeah, I'm going to watch the Spielberg version very thoroughly to see how much they cribbed from CH's version. Though mind you, similarities might be explained by them both taking pointers from Quentin Blake.

I always read it as "the big fuckin gun" like from doom

I just had to do this

It's getting this a lot, honestly, from people who experienced Doom first.

I'm kind of dreading the changes I think Spielberg will make. It already looks like he's tried to give the BFG a "deeper" reason for kidnapping Sophie than the belief that she was going to tell the world about him and that he'd end up in a zoo.

It's interesting to hear Brian Cosgrove talk about this film in interviews, being the project with highest production budget he dealt with (~£3,000,000, which is nothing compared to most feature length animations, but is huge for a British studio).

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That picture reminds me: Wasn't this one of the only adaptations of his work that Roald actually liked?

Yeah I noticed that too. Dahl never seemed to do "big metaphysical idea" stories. Everything is always very simple. The BFG is more like a giant kid than some zen master or something.

I sort of prefer the alien geometry of the dream world in the original to the generic forest.

And it's a damn shame there's none of the DEEPEST LORE like the crown

>I sort of prefer the alien geometry of the dream world in the original to the generic forest.

For that matter, the one in the animated movie was pretty close to the book, wasn't it? I certainly don't remember any dream tree.

Also, I just realised from the trailer that they're doing that thing where they interpret language in a book literally. The BFG refers to snozzcumbers in the book as "maggotwise", indicating a bad flavour, but they've literally made the snozzcumber in Spielberg's movie look like it has maggots in it.

>that fucking titles sequence and how gloriously 80s it is

I thought it looked like the inside of a squash

Is whizpopping the next generation's Blueberry fetish?

Maybe, possibly a spaghetti squash.

Very nice. I forgot how weird and ominous this movie was.

What was with Dahl's hard on for government?

Everything's fine, everything's good, then suddenly everyone fellatiating the President or Queen and they bring in NASA or Helicopters?

Why can't it be a normal fantasy story?