PREVIOUSLY, ON "THE FLASH":

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Caitlin gets taken and none of the characters seem to care or even reference the fact.

AAARRRGGGHHHHHHH

How long does Zoom have to live?

Killer Clam hasn't killed in a while.

You need to go faster, Berry!

I need your speed, Flash!

SIT BARRY SIT

RUN BARRY RUN

>RUN BARRY, RUN
>I'm cisco and I like to reference pop culture. ARE YOU DARTH VADERING ME? HARRY POTTER. HUNGER GAMES. STAR TREK. INTERNET VIDEOS!
>i'm iris and i dress like a french prostitute from the 60's I call it street walker chic
>remember that time we abducted and imprisoned people for months yet act like we are good guys?

you forgot the thirty minutes of iris wringing her hands over whether she loves barry

Seriously, why would anyone want Iris to end up with Barry after all this shit? She's a shitty person and he'd be better off with literally anyone else.

BUT WHO IS THE MASKETTA MAN?

you, me and them, it's a metaphor for meta human oppression and their eternal struggle to be accepted by this cruel and cold world.

They glossed over Wally finding out barry is the flash, he just new in that last episode

Flash needs more appearances from Felicity. She's the best character in the arrowverse, they should utilize her more.

I think the writers just forgot that Wally isn't supposed to know Barry is the Flash yet. They might have some memory issues, or just some brain damage of some sort. It would explain a lot.

>Hey, gang! What are we doing this week?
>Same thing we do every week, Barry. Murder someone.

why do they commit so much murder?

>I think the writers just forgot
that's about part the course for CW

I missed the talkback, how much hype was their during the Kevin Smith episode?

A lot. It really was the best episode of the season. One of the better ones in the series.

Of course, the show seems like it's going right back to being shit.

>remember that time we abducted and imprisoned people for months
On that note, how long do they plan on keeping the villains in their make-shift prison for? Are they serving life with no parole or something?

It's what super heroes do.

They only locked them up until they figured out a way to depower them. But they didn't do much about that.

Well that was the plan but then they all ended up escaping or dying, mostly dying.

Not much. Sup Forums is on the hate train now.

didn't they send them off to Argus or whatever?

dude, it's been a really bad season. Stop acting like it's some meme.

This season has been hype after hype. I bet it's just you shit posting.

There were minor complaints, but Sup Forums was enjoying it and hailed several episodes as series best, but after episode 18, the whole season and in sone cases the entire show became retroactively shit all along.

The entire season was built on a shaky foundation in the first place. Zoom has been absolute shit and the season has been running in place the whole time. People just figured that the big reveal would make it worth it.

Instead episode 18 fucked everything up and showed that they had no plan. Every episode since has just been wasting more time

Not liking their plan doesn't mean they don't a plan.

We still have story to figure out, like why Jay is only Jay when the mask is off and who the man in the iron mask is.

The voice is just something he does.

>Who the man in the iron mask is
>Somebody still thinks it isn't the real Jay
>Even after Henry dropped that his mother's maiden name was Garrick

The man in the mask is zooms dad.
pretty much the only character with a military background.

It's Jay Garrick, bro. Hunter's uncle who also served in the War of the Americas.

So how many people Barry and his gang killed? Is there a kill-count or something?

"No, Barry, you can't go back in time and save your mother, Dr Wells, and every single person who has been harmed directly or indirectly by metahumans and the particle accelerator! That happening is what makes you you! ...Well, if you ignore that in the other timeline you were still the Flash. And also married to Iris. And also you'd have TWO fathers because you'd still have a relationship with me but also with your real dad because he won't be in prison unjustly."

"No, Barry! You can't go back in time and stop the holocaust! The holocaust is what makes you special!"

Is it just me or has Joe aged a lot since season one?

Masketta man is Jay Garrick, who is E2 Henry Allen.

Henry's lineage isn't the only one that's changed.

Wells also has a different family tree. While his father was still a Wells, his mother was a Thawne

Wells has been using Zoom and Barry to research the speed force and create a device that will give him a connection to it by recreating the accident that gave Barry his powers. Sound familiar?

Oh, it's you again.

>Barry out runs Zoom because with the trip to the Speedforce, he unlocked his potential
>Z: "HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE?!"
>F: "You didn't sit enough."

Eight.

The real Jay garrick, who will be the same actor as Barry's dad. They hinted at it earlier when Barry's dad made a comment about his mother's maiden name being garrick.

GIVE ME MY SPEEEEEEEEEEEEED FLAAAAAAAAAAAAAASH

Just when I thought this season was a letdown...this episode happens.

>people liked this scene
I literally laughed out loud. The extras on-set had absolutely no enthusiasm whatsoever. It looked like something out of a cheap comic-con fan film.

Some did, some didn't.

I thought the fact they had shoddy costumes added a lot of charm to it.

Except he didn't, all they said to him when they found him unconscious is that "Barry's gone" they never mentioned that Barry was the flash

I was talking about the whole episode, not just that scene (see here? how i specifically said "episode"?)

They admitted that they changed their minds about Zoom's identity like 2 episodes before it was revealed.

They literally did not. That hasn't been said, anywhere, and Teddy Sears talked on Smith's podcast about how he was hired for both roles from the start and shared a funny story about how the secret nearly leaked.

>No plan
>Zoom succeeded in his plan
>Now he is going full psychopath and trying to take over the multiverse so Caitlin will love him
I've never loved Zoom more than I did when he started acting like fucking Hannibal Lecter.

So man in the iron mask is jay garrick right

Sssh, don't let the writers know you know or they'll change it.

>This season has been hype after hype.

Hype train hit the wall with the whole Zoom/Jay thing. Just a mess.

Simply because it wasn't what people expected.

>Hype train hit the wall
>Cisco going full Vibe
>Flash dad of Earth-2 all but confirmed for being Jay Garrick
>Barry fucking communing with the speed force
Nah it's just you.

Oh, I didn't know Jeph Loeb was writing for the show.

Or, it was what everybody expected.

>go back in time
>risk tearing a whole in reality and killing everyone, or at least killing yourself
Its really a no brainer

>Hannibal Lecter
He feels more like Mason Verger to me.
His deeds and dialogues are pretty much raping orphans and drinking their tears-tier.

It really wasn't. Nobody on Sup Forums called it until they made it obvious, and now people act as if it was a foregone conclusion from day 1.

The Jason Mewes cameo was absolutely cringe worthy.

Who thought this was good?

It was obvious when Zoom showed up but didn't take Barry's speedforce.

Yet no one called it.

>Who thought this was good?

The "funny" "smoke weed" man in an hockey shirt

Actually not his idea, CW was behind it.

The chick next to him was actually way worse.

>Iris cock blocks Barry again
>Wally dindu nuthin, and Jesse gets the bbc
>Sup Forums jacks off to pictures of Caitlin
>science dad whisper about Barry going fast
>Zoom is still boring
>Cisco makes another fucking movie referance
>Captain Cold still taaaalks like thiiiiiis
>DCEU Flash looks like FilthyFrank
>"Where is felicity?"

Everything about that scene was bad

>Where is felicity?
Why did you say that name?

>Zoom is still boring
Well, that's what happens when you make a sociopath serial killer your main villain.
They're fucking boring, with very rare exceptions. I'm not sure why everyone still tries to make one - it has 95 percent of failure and 5 percent of success.

Sorry friends, I'm just not feeling the hate train. I like Zoom going full serial killer.

>"Where is felicity?"
She will show up in the finale of this season.
She's actually E2 Felicity, who's Zoom older sister. She created Velocity because unlike her, Zoom isn't connected to Speedforce.
She was impersonating E1 Felicity (who's in the coma after being shot by Darkh's goons).

Before Reverse Flash died I think he ran around the city and gave everyone a key

>I have no standards

A part of it comes from the fact that Eobard Thawne was better.

Another big part of it is that, in season 1, even though there was a mystery to the circumstances in which things played out, everyone versed in comics knew we were dealing with Eobard Thawne. We knew what we were getting in the end.

Zoom was completely different, as in he's a original character constructed from concepts of several different villains from the comics. Comic fans didn't know what to expect, theories got way too big, way too complex, and when it didn't go the way they expected or antecipated, they got disappointed, and disappointment walks a thin line from hatred on the internet.

I like Zoom, too. I only hope they don't make him a tragic villain because "MUH CHILDHOOD" as they implied last episode.

>, and when it didn't go the way they expected or antecipated, they got disappointed
OR maybe Zoom is just a shitty villain.

Taking the old "parroting it until it somehow becomes fact", eh?

>people ITT think mask man is E2 Henry Allen

But that wouldn't explain how Barry Allen was able to call his parents.

>I have no argument, better resort to "y-you just parroting what others say"
Fuck off and just admit you have low standards, if you think Zoom is anything but garbage.

>arguing about this shit at all

Re-evaluate your life

His E2 father is never seen, heard or referred to as "Henry".

It might be someone else altogether.

Didn't Barry speak to both of them or was it just his mom?

Also, it has to be Henry, considering genetics and all. If it wasn't Henry, he wouldn't look like the Barry we know.

Also, pretty sure he carries the name Allen, which is still Henry's name.

>I want to be with you now
>because apparently it happens everywhere else so might as well

That was so cringe.

Why is it that as soon as Eddie died, the quality of this show dropped?

>women are fucking retarded

pretty accurate writing desu

Just his mother.

Nora said Barry looks just like her father when he was younger, so he might take mostly after her side of the family.

Since he's even stiffer than Iris I'd say complete coincidence.

>implying he isn't the guy in the mask

Not all of those have to be Earth 2, do they?

They said he'd gather metas from all over our world, too.

That whole speech about taking over this world and ruling the humans doesn't mean shit since they're all metas, at least some of those could be from our world.

Killed her alternate self after said self showed interest.

3 for 3 so far.

But there's no way Zoom can survive a fight against Bat of Murder assuming he even manages to survive a fight against Supergirl.

Are you capable of actually enjoying anything?

>Implying they have locks
Good god man, this is a house of SCIENCE, it has no place for such mundane things!

Hooray! Someone else with a brain!

Just wait until you realize Hunter is the polar opposite of Barry and that Hunter's dad's name is James.

Or did you already?

I read online somewhere that Wally is going to be Impulse instead of Kid Flash. Can anyone confirm or deny?

God dammit, SOOOOOOOO close!

I can confirm or deny.

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Damn son