USA vs the world

no nukes allowed
who would win?

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Jews, Swedes and the Swiss

We'd just zerg rush them. China + Russia alone would be a lot for them.

The world obviously.

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No one would win. We could take over the Americas, but it would take more resources than there are available to mount a significant invasion from the old world to new or vice versa ie the dogma that american military dominance has relied upon for over 200 years.
And supply lines would dry up real fast to overseas military vases if it really was U.S. vs world.

the US is kind of a joke in terms of warfare

The best US strategy is to pay and arm different factions to do the fighting for them

It's so situational that it's retarded to even talk about

military victory: china, russia, maybe india
participation medals: everyone else
real winners: israel, switzerland

World. Between Eurasian technology and industry, and Indo-African manpower, America's fucked.

Depends on what the field of battle is. If it's the US trying to occupy and dominate the rest of the world, then obviously the US would lose.

The US is basically impossible to invade though and we have one of the most self-sufficient economies in the world.

The US can't even beat Vietnam

What if Canada attacked from above and mexico from below + europe, russia, japan and china
and the rest of the world
How would it look like?

sure thing nigel

The Canadian and Mexican borders exist for a reason. Canada is where all the great navigable rivers in North America abruptly end in the Great Lakes, and there are dense forests and mountains everywhere else on the border. Furthermore, Canada is so ridiculously dependent on the US for everything from refined products (fertilizers, gasoline) to electricity. If shit hit the fan, it's far more likely that they would be de facto rolled into the United States.

Major settlements in the US and Mexico are separed by hundreds of miles of inhospitable desert that, while easy to travel through if you're a migrant, are basically impossible to route logistics through. To put things into perspective: the US has invaded and occupied Mexico twice. Both times by landing a naval force at Veracruz and moving up to Mexico City.

Invasions by land just aren't a thing that work well in modern-day North America.

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Probs America, if we just sat in our country. The only way you can invade is by land, we have the biggest navy and airforce by far. So that leaves Canada and Latin America, we could easily eliminate them.
Taking over other countries? near impossible, its been proven since ww2 that local forces that deny your occupation are a fucking massive pain.


In the end no one wins, probably millions dead at least.

Sheer numbers is going to make you lose. Once nukes are out of the equation, the US alone cannot manufacture enough arms and ordinance to fight off everything that will be coming through sheer numbers

In terms of raw firepower, the US navy alone easily beats out the combined navies of the rest of the world. We can just hang out here indefinitely.

If these fags leave the Japs alone and let them make their own military again they could destroy the USA easily.

T. Not weeabo but i recognize how powerful was the Japanese empire in the both World wars.

These kinds of comments really illustrate how fucking retarded you are. Please stop.

you forgot the main cannon fodder

also, you forgot Walling off counters zerg rush. trump is playing 34d chess while we all snakes and ladder

>real winner
>israel
please, if the US didn't unilaterally block a two state solution on the pre-67 borders for the past 30-40 years then we'd have peace in the region

that's a fucking brilliant strategy, that had worked almost 100% of the time tho...
also, i don't think there's any Navy that can even stand to that of the US

Draw. America couldn't conquer the world on its own, but could manage to defend themselves. They might end up losing Alaska and Hawaii, but they can protect the continental states.

it depends on when this will happen.
USA's space programme is leagues ahead if everyone else right now, and, in a few decades, if there rest of the world embargoed then, they'll probably start mining asteroids and planets for resources and energy, and start an extraterrestrial colonial empire.
this will allow them to not only be more safe and unattackable, but also to deliver an onslaught that we mere earthlings will find hard to defend from.
Europe hasn't made any important strides in space exploration of late, and even Russia is slowing down, so they may very well achieve astral supremacy and rain down fire on us.
in fact, with the way things are going now, it'll probably be India that'll take the war to the cosmic front.

Obviously america's standing military is overpowered but once the rest of the world starts a war economy america would get out produced, rendering any initial materiel advantage moot.

Switzerland, as always

USA lost against Vietnam, they would lose against Slovenia too

The arms industry

War that lasts a few months = stalemate.

War that lasts years a crushing defeat for the US of A

With bases in Canada and South America USA would eventually crumble.

the world of course
they could BTFO any single country but you need alliances to win wars

>we could easily eliminate them
You don't understand nothing about war, lol.

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USA would easily win a defensive war. Our navy would literally rule the seas, it wouldn't even be close.

People here let the self-haters and amerigoblin memes get to their head a little too much. A mobilized USA is literally invincible in outright warfare. We defeated Japan 6 months after they attacked Pearl Harbor for all intents and purposes, the rest of the war was just them dragging out the inevitable. We conquered Iraq in 3 weeks with almost no casualties when it had one of the largest militaries on earth, with some so called elite units like the Republican guard. List continues.

America will conquer the world within 5 years. what kind of dumb question is this?

>A mobilized USA is literally invincible in outright warfare
this is fucking delusional shit

The US military bureaucracy of the modern era is completely dysfunctional and broken. Armaments and weapon systems are sold not based on their effectiveness or cost efficiency, but based on how much the military contractor bribes his local congressman.

The US war in Iraq (not a major military or economic power) cost $2 trillion dollars, if not double that, thousands of American lives. The US army was strained to the absolute breaking point of recruitment, and was forced to call back old troops who had already done 4+ tours of duty.

>muh WW2
The German kill ratio was far above the USA's, and the combat efficiency made the US look like a third world army. Russia bore the vast brunt of the fighting, the US contribution was relatively minimal.

US would surrender the moment they get boots on the ground. They're too soft to fight a real war.

Picking out the few prepper hillbillies would be a pain in the ass, but not a big deal.

>easily win
we're talking about the world(europe + asia + latin america + australia + canada) vs you at the same time without nukes allowed.

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Naval power alone makes it impossible to launch an offensive operation in American soil, at least for Eurasia/Africa. As for South America, we don't have the military capacity for defeating the USA, and even if we tried to attack them at home they'd probably push back pretty fast and keep us at bay in the stretch border of Panama and Colombia

>We defeated Japan 6 months after they attacked Pearl Harbor for all intents and purposes,

Yeah, nah, not even close.
Although Midway was indeed a severe loss for the Japanese navy, by the winter of the year, America lost all operational carriers in the Pacific except for damaged Enterprise. So, the situation was far from victory.
>The loss of Hornet was a severe blow for Allied forces in the South Pacific, leaving Enterprise as the one operational, but damaged, Allied carrier in the entire Pacific theater. As she retreated from the battle, the crew posted a sign on the flight deck: "Enterprise vs Japan".[72][73][74]
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And on top of that, the material and numerical superiority enjoyed by the WW2 US military came from the situation where Japan and Germany were fighting their primary opponents, China and Russia, which enabled America to concentrate on secure mass production and attack on vulnerable peripheral theatre distant from primary ones. America owes the victory to Russian and Chinese cannon fodders, which wouldn't be the case in this hypothetical scenario.

I... I can't struggle to fight my best ally ! Brave yourself, rest of the world, I'm joining my oldest's friend's side!

>be the most technologically advanced army in history
>have the greatest military expenditure in the world
>have bases all over the world
>lose to a bunch of guerrilla farmers with dirty AKs

Le keko

Mexico
don't even need guns for that.

You people really are delusional, it's not even a meme. The border is there because despite American efforts they couldn't take Canada in the east and the HBC exerted enough pressure to keep them out of the west.
We don't rely on you for gasoline, a third of your gasoline comes from us and we are your largest energy provider. Yes, we do largely rely economically on you, but as you can see that's a mutual reliance. We are eachother's largest trade partners.
It takes a special kind of retard to believe themselves capable of losing all international imports and exports and simultaneously defend against 2 very large borders (one the largest on earth) and the sea, while vastly outnumbered and eventually outgunned.

Stop spouting meme facts

Probably usa since its navy is so massive it could obliterate anything sealing in any ocean, and latin america can't win against usa

Americans talk about navy but couldn't canada + russia fuck alaska up and then Europeans go through alaska and canada towards America and latin americans go through mexico?

What's stopping the world from making a even bigger navy? We got all the resources in this scenario, don't we?

You believe it's so massive that they can protect against the Gulf, the Arctic, the Pacific, Atlantic, and Bering sea before the combined forces of the world can get a foothold anywhere in Mexico, Canada, or South America?
It's a big navy but it isn't magical.

You can not take over Americas. If you could not control Vietnam, how do you suppose to control the whole continent of Jungles? BTW. being ansolutely isolated from outer worls resources? With thousands of submarines raping your communication lines?

On the other hand, USA could control N.America for a very long time.

Underrated post.

Goodbye US.

Meme facts are still facts, Paco.

lol Texas alone is powerful enough to take on the world

I guess I can then say that a bunch of swarthy Anatolian farmers with old weapons whipped your asses in 1923?

Yeah they did. Our king fucked up badly there and we got swarmed.

by 2025 even China would put up enough of a fight to make a non-nuke war devastating for the US economy, check the RAND report

if the USA loses 1(one) transformer they are done, they don't have the ability to manufacture them anymore

almost all relevant US population/industrial centres are within 200 miles of the coast, making amphibious invasion much easier

besides that, being cut off from EVERYWHERE in trade would collapse the entire US economy in days, even if they could effectively defend