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>national socialism not in meme tier

wew

>no libertarianism
Monarchism a shit btw, just extremely expensive welfare leeches.

Actually correct. Good job denbts.

>t. uneducated peasant

fine as long as conservation and environmental protection is extremely high on the party's platform

I agree but pay denbts

>just extremely expensive welfare leeches
Our monarchy seems to disprove that lad.
Just milk them for tourism, then the money made from Property and visitors start pouring in.

Do some research about monarchism, it is the only way to protect liberty. Democracies and Republics are inherently anti-liberty

>Do some research about monarchism, it is the only way to protect liberty. Democracies and Republics are inherently anti-liberty
Putting an unelected person as the supreme leader of the country is the only way to protect liberty. Fucking kek.

wrong. theocracy is highest tier. The One True God And His Voice The Pope Must Reign Supreme

>clericalism
>good tier

Fuck that with a 28" horse cock.

Yeah National Monarchism is pretty based.

Give an example of national monarchism.

Monarchism is absolute horse ass, that should say Republics

>republics are inherently anti liberty
Only as they get more democratic

The same problem exists with monarchies.

Also monarchy doesn't inherently carry good policy

I'd say the American system working for what, 200 years? Before going to shit is as good as it gets.

Rome was p good too, relatively speaking

Only an edgy Sup Forums user would see this as an accurate depiction of the quality of different types of government. You want to be ruled over by a king? How does it feel to be the epitome of submissive cuck?

>he doesn't know that nationalism is anti-Traditional

Nice try, post-1789 NWO shill. The ONLY acceptable society is the quadripartite division of castes as seen in the ancient Indo-Aryan system or the Ghibelline Holy Roman Empire.

Mainstream Political Ideologies - From Best to Worst

>Liberalism - "Abolish the welfare state."
>Conservatism - "We need a small welfare state."
>Moderate Leftism - "We need a welfare state."
>Socialism (of all kinds) - "YOU ARE NOTHING WITHOUT THE COLLECTIVE, YOU WORTHLESS RUNT! SUBMIT TO THE STATE OR DIE!"

>monarchy
>not shit
Pick one, senpai.

Is this a joke? It's so wrong that you have to be doing this on purpose.

Does the truth trigger you?

This. It was a system designed to be temporary ffs.

Stay bluepilled

You have liberalism and conservatism backwards, moderate leftism is a misnomer in this context, one of the main arguments for socialism and against capitalism is that capitalism requires a welfare state while socialism has full employment facilitated by the state. You almost couldn't be more wrong.

Stay submissive and feminine, wanting no control over your future and giving it all to one man. Do you like to bend over and let men shove things in your ass too chief?

It is true. A constitutional monarchy is superior to a republic if liberty is your goal for many reasons. A monarch has a vested interest in upholding the value of his country and will therefore take a long sighted and prudent view when it comes to politics.

Republics are filled with temporary power holders who do not own the country but rather are temporary holders. They must make short term power grabs for their own constituency to maintain power, oppressing other groups within the country. Democracy is part of what is spurring the large scale ethnic replacement inside the US right now. You see in the DNC speech today that a illegal alien is now getting elected to congress. Do you think that is somehow to the benefit of the historic American nation for that to happen?

It is also better to have but one tyrant on the throne to overthrow rather than an ever-changing political class that is at the behest of donors. If a monarch oversteps his boundaries, then it is much easier to overthrow him. Republics are inherently unsustainable.

These short term power grabs by temporary power holders also create something that is much more tyrannical than Monarchy ever gets to. Look at the federal government in the USA today. Theoretically it is limited but in practice it is unlimited. What did the founding fathers rebel against?

Arbitraty taxation? CAn you honestly say that your tax code is within your people's power?

Government not being able to walk into your property? I could have a no knock warrant on your house with an anonymous tip

Not being ruled by outside groups? The federal gov. has allowed ~60 million immigrants into this country and these people can or will soon use our voting system to take the government away from the people that were already here.

>he thinks he has any control over his country

> Liberalism

> Dominant paradigm since 1789

> shit tier

Maybe chat shit when you have an actual understanding of what Monarchism entails, please.

>Nationalism, Monarchism, Fascism or any kind of Authoritarian and Totalitarian rules
>Good

Pick only one, faggot

Confirmed total bullshit. Tourists would still come in if there was no monarchy actually residing in the palaces.

Also there is a difference between a constitutional monarchy and monarchy as an actual system of governance. The latter could be wildly bad for tourism.

No, its pretty accurate.

The idea with democratic systems is that letting a majority of a population determine how things work comes up with more agreeable results than letting one man determine these things.

>chat shit
>defending total submission to a man

Typical faggy brit

People forget the point of having a constitutional monarch. It means the monarch has the final say and if anything goes wrong people can pretend that they have never agreed with their monarch and go on chopping off their head of the state.

unknown???

Saying an ideal monarch is better than a decadent and corrupt republic ain't saying much bub Neo Monarchism is absolutely untenable

Liberalism in America means social liberalism, not classic liberalism.

Right. The power of the 51% to oppress the 49%. An ever expanding state apparatus to extract wealth and resources from the 49% and give them to the 51% percent.

He does not have to be ideal. I covered that. An awful monarch who oppresses and spurns his people is also a more concrete and easier to overthrow foe than an abstract state apparatus.

Funny how the Absolute Monarchy and aristocracy of France eventually degenerated into a bunch of inbred pedophiles and faggots kinda like the modern monarchies of Saudi Arabia and Qatar.

It only works well with constitutional restraints and that is no guarantere of anything at all considering the UK and Sweden

>no libertarianism

But it's there right at the bottom in the shit tier bracket :^)

I know. Its why you burgers are retarded and needed to make up a new term for classical liberalism- Libertarianism.

What's Clericalism? Other than that, this is a pretty accurate list

Östereich, geht FPÖ wahlen.

This is one of the most retarded things I've ever heard. Who decides who gets to be the monarch, anyway?

ching chong ding dong

>monarchism
>god tier
moldbug pls go

Monarchist systems are shit tier. Totalitarians too.

What you really want is an elected secretaries who execute the national mandate to protect working class and middle class citizens while allowing the upper class to make ethical profits.

What you really want is democratic fascism

There is no need to overthrow a government when it doesn't work IF the citizens have agency

Also are you aware of how Monarchism played out IRL? It is a history of violently repression

And under totalitarian rule, 1 man can oppress as much of the population as he can get away with. Any alternative to democracy is worse for the general population. I'm not surprised that a bunch of Sup Forums shut-ins advocate for a system that no one else would want where they have no control over their lives.

We started out with that and it will always deform into what the US is now.

A monarchy usually gets put in place from an aristocratic class when one exceptional man either seizes power or is given power by the rest of the ruling class.

Listen to this 20 year old philosopher/unemployed college student guys, throw away all your nationalistic unifying symbols it's 2016. After all, every government dime should go to 'are NHS' :^)

>monarchism
truly the definition of a meme ideology

1 man can oppress a population far less than 200 million men

>muh shut in may may

wew lad

What's the point in telling me that when there's no election going on at the moment?

Do you faggots even have a word for social liberalism? Slightly to the right of FDR?

Fascism is fucking awful. Literally just government sponsored corporate cronyism.
National Socialism is far, far superior, as proved in by Fascist Italy/Natsoc Germany.

God Tier: Globalized State
Shit tier: All the other systems are obsolete

The instrument of oppression in either case is still state power. It's not average citizens enforcing those laws in either case.

100%

Kind of dumb to have national-socialism above anything, when it objectively failed and only lasted a few years.

Conservatism is a method of policy construction and implementation, it is not a paradigm unto itself.

Nationalism itself is also not a form of government, it's just a motivation/goal.

protip: words generally have distinct meanings, which is why we use more then one.

I think that you're too ignorant to be making lists.

And I think that in the information age, ignorance is completely your fault, so you are lazy useless human garbage.

>implying you are "oppressed"
Triggered nigger?

>when it objectively failed and only lasted a few years

How did it fail? :^)

Keep pledging allegiance to that flag.

>when it objectively failed
Being destroyed by outside forces doesn't disprove it's efficacy as a system of government. But you're a fucking leaf, how in the world would you know that?

>God Tier
>Not European Neopaganism

>much outside forces
Literally the fagoot excuse of every failed state

Hitler made stupid fucking decisions that his whole nation paid the highest price for. I fucking love that you guys deny that Nazi Germany being invaded and destroyed had anything to do with Hitler's decisions.

Fucking delusional and pathetic. Have you ever told people in real life that you believe that?

A viable alternative is a republic with a dictator clause like Rome. When the pleb faggots go out of control and the constitution is being violated the senate or the highest constitutional body appoints a dictator who is mandated to rule for one year only and re-establish law and order during that period. Also it should be in the constitution that if he should rule for a minute longer than the year he is outside of the law and it is the duty of every citizen to execute him on the spot.

Fascism at its heart is simply a reaction to marxism. It can take many different forms in different places depending on the population.

only by your lack of arguments.

But the state apparatus is fundamentally different. In a republic you can have the illusion of control, but really it devolves into a ever expanding growth almost an organism unto itself for reasons I have already listed.

>why don't we just destroy the constitution when it starts being violated to protect the constitution

A republic you can have popular control, in a totalitarian system you never have that.

Why don't you name a few of those decisions, and while you're at it, why don't you draw the connection to the ideological basis that gets disproven while you're at it?

i like it

Trying to invade all of Europe like a retard, specifically the Soviet Union.

Only for a year in a state of emergency.

You will get a permanent dictator at the rate shit is going.

I would move conservatism into God-Tier too. A conservative, nationalist monarchy is what I want to live in.

Otherwise it's fine.

> Facism
> Top tear
Kys

Tell that to the tyrant that gets killed in an uprising just to be replaced by a people-fearing ruler

Can some good sir explain to me wtf is clericalism?
And why is it better than nazism?

Fascism - Top Tier
National-Socialism - Mid Tier

Lol no.

clericlaism is what you have in Iran

>dictator only for a year

This has been tried, they extend their power indefinitely. The vast majority of people will abuse their power when given it, especially absolute power. This is confirmed across history and all fields of social science.

Funny how trying to stop communism suddenly becomes retarded when it's not done by the nation that tries to take credit for it.

>every failed state
I don't remember NATO invading the USSR to abolish communism, do you?

>Opinions?
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Switch clericalism with national socialism and it would look right to me.

That's why he has to die if he exceeds his tenure of the year. It would be written in the constitution which all children will memorize in schools since the first grade

>NATO
NATO is for defense.

>he's american so he must be a stereotypical commie hater who praises containment, the red scare and believes the US won WWII single-handedly

I see you've run out of ideas.

lol you are retarded if you think that is how it happens it is more like one bloodthirsty autocrat is ousted by an ignorant mob controlled by a more cunning member of his family

>for defense
tip top kek

>he has to die

uh huh and who is going to do that?

>monarchism of any form

seriously kill yourself

Iran has theocracy leaf

NATO is a defensive alliance

Often does not happen that way, often the tyrant doesn't lose power until he dies. I swear to god none of you know any history and you just make up whatever version of history would confirm your own ideas.