SERIOUS QUESTION

SERIOUS QUESTION

for those pro-lifers among you

lets say for every abortion I have, I adopt a child that would otherwise not have found a good home.

Are my abortions forgivable?

>population control
>still caring for a life
>etc, idk

pls help. this has been weighing on me for a few minutes

That's like saying that for every murder you commit you give a sick man his medication.

If they are
>pure white ethnicity
Or
>pure asian ethnicity

Its alright. Let the niggers annd spics burn in the orphanage. But seriously, consider having at least one child of your own.

No.
If every man I had murdered was equivalent to every man I saved, my murders would still not be forgivable.

Why kill your own genetic material to raise that of another? Seems like bloodline suicide.

No, you dumb cunt. The life of a child you have never met is not your responsibility. If you choose to help one that's altruism not obligation.

The life of a child you created, however, is your responsibility and destroying it purely because it is inconvenient to you is a gross violation of the child's rights.

ok. if that sick man would've died without his meds.

take a 'life' to save a life.

but without increasing population. how is this not a win win?

>for every abortion I have

How about you use contraception instead of abortion you fucking piece of shit?

You're murdering things for the convenience of not using contraception. Think about that.

Why the fuck would you adopt when you can create a child?

Who cares? Has there ever been a coherent "pro-life" argument?

>population control
First of all, a population boom only exist in South-East Asia. Secondly, the ethical weight of your actions doesn't change because of irrelevant factoids about the world. You sound crazy.

why?

seriously

Every white and Asian child is a precious gift from god. Abortion is murder and nothing can make up for it.

However there is no such thing as abortion for niggers and Muslims. It's just apoptosis of faulty genes.

Abortion is murder. Helping someone else does not make murder forgivable.

>Asian
Why?

>irrelevant factoids
you mean things that don't immediately affect my surroundings? what a way to think about things while simultaneously saying that I am MORALLY BOUND TO RAISE these two little cells I rubbed together.

retard baka tbqh
cant believe im picking storefronts for you

yes

Asians are the only race Hitler thought of as worthy. Called them honorary Aryans.

Also rejects feminism bullshit.

I really don't care if you choose to abort. Though, if you do don't be surprised to have what you've done be described as "baby scramblin." That's not to say that some scrambling share justified, but I will straight up call it scrambling to your face when discussing it. Wrapping something regrettable up in detached wording makes the act seem perfectly normal. So, yes, I support a woman's right to scramble a little baby human so long as I'm allowed to refer to it like like, and also if the whore is poor or was assaulted or the kid is going to be a mong. Especially mongs.

preventing a murder does not make murder forgivable

what if i witness a murder and am 100% capable of stopping it but do nothing
as in, the tiniest effort would save a life.

you're telling me that the tiny action of asking a doctor to scramble my egg is FUNDAMENTALLY DIFFERENT than signing a paper to save a child?

truly, where do you get these ideas? is it really just the bible?

are you implying that i should, what, flinch or something if you say 'baby scramblin' to my face?

edgy

Not gonna lie, when I found the Training with Hinako OVAs I fapped to them for like a month. It was like candy for my dick. Too bad they never made Volume 4, although I don't think they'd have anywhere left to go except straight up porn because Volume 3 was softcore porn.

it doesnt feel as good.

but you wouldnt know anything about that would you

can you imagine how big of a hassle pregnancy is?

Sometimes it's from God speaking directly to people. Or via Jesus image in toast.

God prefers to work with low paid workers and the ignorant just like a good job creator does.

You're not morally bound to do anything. You can kill your parents too, along with your children The ethical value of this is pretty standard though.

i didnt realize people were born muslim

>kill a baby
>adopt a baby

Yes its pretty much a wash.

>standard

amongst who? greek orthodox church?

do you seriously think that killing fully developed humans is the same as blending a collection of cells? no wonder people don't respect your point of view.

seriously. what the fuck. how can you actually argue that. souls or someshit?

scramble cells dog. its not yet a baby. high chance it being stillborn too, tbqh senpai

I'm not religious. Life starts at conception. The only thing left to discuss is how you feel about your abortion.

truly, His ways are mysterious

if youre not religious you should realize that life starts before conceptions

dipshit

or are my sperms dead?

>good and evil is a math problem
Nope! That's not how it works~
Go take a class on how to be a human being.

Same way people are born jewish.

This doesn't make any sense.

seriously, what the fuck are you arguing.

that, without god, there is a reason to believe that the MILLISECOND my sperm splats her egg something magical happens - something transformative - something entirely physical and not religious and yet still a change in fundamental substance?

especially considering how many of these precious lives end up stillborn. its like, 20% or something. idk. i dont care to know. because i dont believe in hocus pocus like you do.

sperm is alive

egg is alive

life starts before conception

or what do you mean by 'life'

Abortions are literally cutting up a fetus, I hope you know this

good
evil

so, of course, i have to believe in cloud man and his nail boy to make sense of this problem. stupid me.

it's called miscarriage or spontaneous abortion. But abortion is very religious God aborts around 20% of new life.

Another 1% are still born which can be consider God wanting to horrify some parents to be extra specially hard

they literally are not cutting up fetuses

they are literally chemically induced rejections of tissues, where the fetus detaches from the lining and dies on its own

or, at 'worst' it is a vacuum type procedure of sucking the fetus out, piece by piece.

do you not eat meat? are you not ok with the mutilation of flesh?

No.
You'd still be a murderer.

MYSTERIOUS

praise him

>milennial liberal philosophy
I suggest you take an actual philosophy class, especially on the problem of individual consciousness.

>If I murder someone is it ok
No

why is allowing a child to, for arguments sake, die any different than signing a paper to have a doctor vacuum a few cells out of my box?

why.

whyyyyy is that MURDER

why is that the same as me killing a fully formed adult.

at what point, and please be precise, does my cum and her period turn into something as worthwhile as a fully grown, contributing adult. as worthwhile as, say, einstein.

how on earth do you make such unintuitive arguments?

because of the bibble. thats why, isn't it. it's because your mommy and daddy both believed in the bibble and so you do too.

>piece by piece
>dies

So you admit you are disassembling something and killing it. A human child. Awesome.

Einstein wouldn't exist if he hadn't been conceived. Very unintuitive, huh.

That's sort of the point. Abortion is necessary, at least sometimes, but for the most part it's lost its edge. Its not supposed to be something you bring up nonchalantly bring up in a conversation to mock proliferation. You can assert your right to choose, shout it on the rooftops, just allow me to refer to it in the worst possible terms when we're discussing it because, as much as the guardian applauded women who abort, there is nothing honorable about a woman's last resort. It's an ugly, dehumanizing operation, especially for late term ones, so I feel no need to be the least bit polite about it while passively supporting supporting your right to blend, mix, stir, or vacuum your kid before it can breathe.

>taking a class

m8, are you still in school?

m9, are you saying you learn your morals from your COLLEGE PHILOSOPHY ADJUNCT?

m10, are you passing the baton to someone more capable?

m11, are you seriously memeing me while simultaneously arguing for some magical transubstantiation?

m12, i have taken those classes. years ago. howbout you complete your upcoming semester before you argue these things.

Cancer is murder too. As is eating meat. And don't even get me started on things like tonsillectomy or appendectomy. Fucking murders all doctors are.

no ming lee

things can die without being human children.

as i've mentioned.

as you should know

You don't seem to be able to grasp complex concepts, like identity and conciousness. You seem to believe every person is the same.

so you're now arguing against any form of sex without the intent of procreation

genius

maybe youre the next einstein.

wtf i love feet now

ah. thats it. i dont understand your points.

cells collide, something happens, human life instantaneously appears.

how very complex, needing magic to explain your feelings.

i defer to these things that are beyond my comprehension. thanks for the help.

get started on your summer reading, boy. and while youre at it, go procreate. you're sinning by inaction.

(and yes, that last point was absurd, dont pick it out as the one thing you respond to)

;)

ikr?

better off w/o em imho.

Oh no you're right, I forgot fetuses are alien organisms that magically become human children when emerging from the vagina, and up to 6 months after emerging from the vagina because why not.

And you wonder why your civilisation is shit when this is morally acceptable
>m-muh christfags
Better than being an aimless retarded contrarian.

> If I help some people is murder okay?

The fuck out of here

Again, there's no point in rambling. Read a book to better understand complex matters. Life starts at conception, birth is an event, just like your 1st or 13th birthday. You are already a person anytime after your conception.

do they even have colleges out in greece anymore?

werent you born, like, 2500 years too late?

shouldnt you be working to pay off the loans i gave you?

how is your lazy country still even a thing, why am i arguing with a young, unemployed, uneducated 70th generation socrates inbred

ugh, i see the light. fuck you.

Well Nazi's thought so and Hitler was a pretty based guy so I think a few murders to improve the human race is okay.

recommend a book faggot

no aquinas, been there done that

>Ad-hominem
Get an argument boy. What makes a pereon different than another?

nah bro, they just cells.
thats all. just some cells.

kinda like when i scratch my nuts and some cells fall off. or when i jizz into the toilet.

youre the wackobird who brought aliens into this

*A person

Stop switching your gender mid-post

Well jizzing into the toilet is probably all you do all day so I'll take your word for it

If you scratch your skin because of an itch, you have technically already performed over 3000 abortions. Moisturizer won't prevent this either.

Pax Christi

Clearly a depressed female sperging on how her abortion saved the world before ending her miserable life

Mostly the color of their skin?

>m-muh christfags
Better than being an aimless retarded contrarian.

wait wait wait

i just realized

are you admitting to being a christian?

as in, you believe in the bible?

which parts? please, tell me. also, please tell me which parts you dont. each christian has their own little buffet of verses that mean something and others that dont. its hard to talk with yall since yall each got your own unique view, not to mention a different translation, not to mention a different fucking splinter group of protestantism.

if youre going to be anything, i hope youre at least a catholic.

at least youre honest.

i can accept that.

I believe in mark 16:18

They will be able to handle snakes with safety, and if they drink anything poisonous, it won't hurt them. They will be able to place their hands on the sick, and they will be healed."

I think all Christians should follow this part.

only if they are all male
little girls are biologically fucked if they don't grow up around their blood Father

am i...

am i hitler?

MYSTERIOUS WAYS

pro-lifers are dumb niggers, who want to "save" the trash of humanity, children of selfish people, who would murder their own children

people like them shouldn't have any children to begin with, life is a struggle, leaving behind progeny isn't a right

life in itself shouldn't be a right, a healthy herd must be culled, the trash burnt, only allowing the superior men to survive, 88/14 sieg heil... etc.

tldr: abortions kill liberals and niggers so it's a good thing

My objections to abortion
1. it's not really such a big thing, depending on when it's done. Particularly early on the development, well it's just a few cells. But it does affect many people mentally, don't discount that. And it's hardly ideal, is it? There are plenty of contraception forms, use one.
2. Also, it depends on your colour and culture. Seriously. Whites are being guilted into having fewer children, so every other race can breed and overpopulate the planet. Fuck that.
And on adoption, yeah, a child you adopt will have a fair better life and far less likely to be a criminal than if it had been left in social care.

tl:dr
forgivable, but there are better options

k

i think the consensus is i won this round

till next time

:P

What doesn't feel as good? Make her take the pill.

>it's just a few cells
That's what you were too and if someone killed you then, you wouldn't be now. Why does it matter when someone kills you?

>guilted into having fewer children

Not really, they are just manchildren and selfish cunts, who wouldn't sacrifice for having a big family,

And even more sadly, they won't take joy from it. The children are spoiled, everyone have rights, everyone is overly selfish and would tear the other's throat out for more materialistic gain. This is the jew-promoted picture of the family why people would opt out to live on their own.

No. What did your babies do to deserve death?

What happens at conception: A very specific DNA is combined in ways that have billions of uncontrolled variables and are thus unique. Every moment of the fetus's life is a ticking bomb in terms of possibilities. Thus our experience us humans begins at the time of conception. Even variables before our conception play a role in our biology (like if our mother was ill or our father was a smoker). It's microbiology - everything counts. In addition, social aspects of our life are created before, during and after our birth. Every human life is a wavelength of possibilities. It doesn't matter when you kill the wavelength, whether it is by shooting the adult, abortion or killing his mother.

No you fucking retard, you killed your own children.

>Caring for a life
That really isn't the pro life argument. It's more akin to
>It is never permissible to murder
This would be like saying
>Is murder forgivable if I murder people and give their homes to the poor?

do you want more gypsies and liberals you dumb shit.

Yes, it IS murder, who cares. They are killing their own, we should cheer on that. All the trash must be exterminated for the sake of a healthier race.

I would make both abortion and sterilization completely free and after the third abortion you would get mandatory sterilization.

Not to mention the accidents and "accidents" that can happen in earlier cases.

Also no age and progress restriction. The later they do the abortion, the more chances we get that they both die.

>inb4 edgy

It's never a crime to kill the enemy.

>take a 'life' to save a life.
That would be okay if the doctor was trying to kill the sick man or if the white kid was trying to beat his inferior.

Murder implies unlawfulness.

No, politically I agree with you.

How about this? Stop getting knocked up, THEN adopt a child.

If you're already knocked up and considering abortion, why not find a gay/lesbo couple to adopt it for you?

Because your idea of getting knocked up, aborting, then adopting to make up for the abortion is fucking stupid.

And if someone killed particular sperm from my father's or a particular egg of my mother's I wouldn't be me now. Either way, it wouldn't really matter.