What's the point trying to save the world when the Chinese and Indians insist on destroying it?

What's the point trying to save the world when the Chinese and Indians insist on destroying it?

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How come our stats are that good? Because the research team included the dissolution of the Ussr, or is it some other factors?

Maybe you were just especially bad in 1990.

Factories go bankrupt.

This. Fucking commies released more pollutanta in 2 years than europe and america did in 2 decades. And dont forget chernobyl

>why did emissions caused by industry fall when the soviet union collapsed and the shithole that ius russia (no industry) was born?

chernobyl actually massively cut greenhouse gases

Doesn't pollution gets outsourced to their countries instead?

globalism creates most of that population

stop buying useless crap

China is a developing nation. You cannot compare first world to developing. London had a huge pollution problem when it was at the point China is now. Xi Jiping is trying his best to minimize it

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because we pay them to do the dirty job for us, so we can pretend to be the environmentalists

Being so buttmad that you have to shit on Russia even when they're doing something good such as reducing emissions

this is the image you are looking for. let's also not forget that simply because you've moved the polluting industries to other countries doesn't mean you aren't directly consuming products that are creating the emissions.

>close factories in western countries and move them to asia
>act surprised at stats like these

change in CO2 emissions 1500-present

It's almost like they're developing countries with 1.3B+ populations or something.

Weird, how that works...

the germans are legitimately to blame for this. The figures have been skewed by our foreign ministry in order to make it look like we have decreased our emissions when in reality we have increased our harm to the environment greatly..

Just look at our lack-lustre response to VW, it took foreign governments and media to bring this to light. The corruption here is incredible. The population is so fixated on making sure that we look after ourselves and other europeans that we forget climate all together. Never, NEVER trust a german

>air pollution is slowly declining in China
>India is now has the worst air quality in the world

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How do we save India?

>ohh~~ those barbarians are destroying DAA ENVIRONMENTETN!!!1! what a bunch of brutes! why can't they be environmentally friendly like the rest of us? *proceeds to buy oil based products and dildos to pleasure itself at the thought of being a green powerhouse*

Russia is shit regardless, it mere existence cause misery.

legit. people will curse at you for throwing some plastic cup on the street and big ass wind mills get placed everywhere making noises and ruining the landscape/nature they are supposed to be saving.
it's such a joke that poor countries aren't held accountable for their pollution but western countries who has done the most is critizised for not doing enough.

1. Developing nations need to pollute in order to develop
2. The entire first world polluted the shit out of the world since the industrial revolution, whithout a single regulation
3. Per capita, you are worse than them. By far.
4. You consume the very same products they produce when they pollute
5. If you go from 1 to 100 the % is bigger than if you go from 100 to 97

wtf i love nuclear accidents no

Europe wasn't held accountable for the pollution you did in past centuries. It us the ones who are forced to develop with all the regulations already in place, whereas you skipped them for literal centuries.

The majority of the world pollution was done by you over the last centuries, not by China in the past 10 years. Fuck off.

rich coming from a filthy dane
how many fucking legos in the ocean patch? aaaajlkjlwekfwlkflnqjnvkjn KYS beck yourself ffrom your ikea lamp or some shit

>because they did it!!1!
that's not a legit justification to pollute the earth.
centuries ago climate change caused by humans were not relevant as it is today and in many cases people simply didn't know what they did harmed the earth. mexico, china and the likes are not poor shitholes where there simply isn't any other options. so own up to it and fuck off

ah panama. the country who destroyed their nature for economic gains but gained next to nothing.
sucks to sucks

Again Fuck off.
Your liberals are also responsible for all the irrational nuclear power scare.

One Child Policy

listen dipshit, this environment bullshit is being pushed the fuck out here to the point of halting halfway made construction projects, maybe now that you are nice and cozy in the same structures that use material extracted by filthy polluting processes you don't see why it should continue, the thing is WE need the materials now that we want to develop and you will put up with a few increase of smog like it or not you effeminate piece of hypocritical shit.

Western nations produced far more pollution when they industrialized because no one cared about the environment. Now when developing countries do the same, westerners cry like little cuckolds.

Come make us.

now show the per capita figures

you know that pollution didn't started in 1990 right

Fuck the west. Keep polluting, keep breeding, keep migrating

retard as you clearly see in the op the pollution rates for western countries are going down while rising quickly for countries like china and india.
and don't use the
>If you go from 1 to 100 the % is bigger than if you go from 100 to 97
argument. cause in 10 or 20 years things will look very different if it continues at these rates.

oh wow you can't put all your shit in the oceans anymore? wow harsh regulations you got there bro.
again, it's simply not a legit excuse for polluting and destroying the planet in its worst state.

>t. el goblino

not searching for excuses here i already gave a reason plausible enough for us to continue, if you don't like it just try and do something about it fruitcake.

you had your chance to pollute and don't give a crap, sure thing we shouldn't anymore but why not get some help from countries like yours that had already dumped more tons of waste into the ocean and tons of toxic gases into the atmosphere than we. Why you suddenly get to stand free from your past crimes?

Unlike the US, the biggest polluter country human kind has ever met, China is actually committed to the Paris Agreement, and unlike the EU, they are also building nuclear reactors like no other, drastically cutting down their pollution 5 years prior to their committed agreement in Paris. China is a really shit country, but this isn't one the reasons.

How fucking easy and hypocritical is for anyone in the first world to complain and demand that poor countries stay poor just because they were late in industrialization, when you didn't have anyone to hinder your development like we do. We have to develop with regulations, you didn't. And you, not us, polluted the world.

So yeah, fuck off.

>and unlike the EU, they are also building nuclear reactors like no other, drastically cutting down their pollution 5 years prior to their committed agreement in Paris. China is a really shit country, but this isn't one the reasons.
Hey nigga I know it's going slowly but we are building nuclear power plants too.

India is a democracy, there is no way they would accept that

you clearly are but it doesn't matter as you can just keep polluting as you want to. countries like yours will be the most affected by climate change but muh economic gains

we do not stand free from our past crimes. as i've said before
1. when we polluted like you do now, climate change were not a relevant threat at that time, unlike now
2. lack of knowledge on pollution and its long-time affects

blaming countries like mine for climate change is basically crying over spilled milk and then go on to spill some more milk because we did it too. 1st world countries are trying to help, for example as technology advances green energy will become cheaper and easier. mexico has a lot of sun it can use for energy, malaysia has a lot of rain it can use for energy etc.
my entire point of this pointless debate is that 1st worlders are too focused on our own countries that we forget countries like yours but for some reason you take offense in that like you wouldn't enjoy clean air and oceans?

reduced industrial output. I think ours actually fell for a few years after the recession

this post just confirmed you are retarded so i'll gladly fuck off

it'd be amazing having a moral high point out of being an authority, it's kinda pointless what kind of regulations and punishment we get as long as first world countries are the law writers, the judges, the persecutors and the punishing authority when it comes to them. Specially when none of those laws and regulations are not retroactive

are retroactive

India needs to do something. They don't have a lot of land and their population is going to hit 1.7 billion in the future.

So what are you proposing then? we should just resign to any attempts to make something ourselves just because some dude in the other side of the world discovered how to power up leds with a 1x1 m solar panel and then wait for a team of outlanders to come and give us their advanced foreign wisdom? nah man.
Now, don't get me wrong here, i am all for scientific advances and all that jazz (we need a way to harness the power of our volcanoes) but to truly make use of that approach we need equipment, said equipment needs to be powered by more conventional means, after all we are also able to see what happened in Haiti.

Its the modern world, dumbfuck. Guaranteed you do more harm to the planet than 10 Chinese people combined.

Isnt literally all the heavy industrial output of the world in china?

It's not total output dummy.

It's increase. The West had high pollution since industrial revolution

You're all dying very young now

Ye we'll see about that
People are way too autistic about that. Still have friends telling me they wouldn't trust japanese fish because muh fukushima

don't tell them, we all know the producers of essential manufacturing goods and technologies are evil, obey USA and their clean all natural organic oil™they are truly angels on earth

Looking at national emissions is disingenuous.

China is just the place were western capitalists chose to locate their manufacturing plants.

If China decided to go green, the plants would move somewhere else.

The plants are already there, they wouldn't move for quite a while. The question is where they would move to.

China has apparently been seeing this coming miles away, at least if "Empire of Dust" is to be believed.
Their plan is essentially to industrialize (colonize) parts of Africa and maintain majority stake of all of the factories there.