How do you square being socially conservative with being pro-liberty? For example I think that people should be free to wear what they like, including the burqa, and I think that people should be free to do what they like, including prancing up and down the street with no clothes on waving multicoloured flags, but I very much disapprove of these things and don't think they should be an accepted part of society. What is the answer? Is it just about culture?
Xavier Martin
Has anyone else noticed loads of people (men and women) using American-style uptalk? It's, like, really annoying?
Connor Carter
Fireman "Revenge for Rotherham" Sam
Andrew Garcia
As much as I'd love to, I have little experience in writing beyond school work, and have no idea how I'd go about starting a news site. Besides, I don't have the time or resources. I'd rather just keep a blog at the minute.
Mason Turner
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Landon Powell
Is she in the shadow cab? She is the nega-meme politician Pic is based north wales
Jace Gomez
>you now realise that once Portillo and The Neil retire This Week will have THREE Abbot's as the hosts
Luis Cooper
>tfw her seat is safe as fuck >tfw her parliamentary career will probably last longer than my life
If she was in anything close to a swing seat they'd get rid of her but that won't happen.
Fuck me.
Zachary Cooper
I think you've perfectly described British Liberalism
You can march up the streets looking like a prat but remember everyone is laughing at you
Leo Hughes
(Top of snowden)
Dominic Williams
Fair enough. It was good, though.
Brandon Phillips
You draw a line somewhere, like everyone does. There's a point where you think freedom hinders everything else, and everyone thinks that point is in a different place. You can either start from "everything is government controlled" or "nothing is government controlled", and then try and meet up in the same point.
Jonathan Diaz
Fireman "destroyer of Islam" Sam Fireman "cover them in ham" Sam
I don't know, not that much rhymes with Sam.
Austin Wilson
Clearly she learnt nothing from the parliamentarian masterclass from Mogg.
Liam Myers
>this labour "knock her back on her heels" shit
I'm honestly done with MSM
Who perpetuates this shit? Fucking children.
Brayden Thomas
I take that view. There should be a strong, moral culture which encourages self-restraint, and little government interference. Also, government can't enforce social conservatism without being totalitarian. The 60s cultural revolution was a perfect storm with Kinsey, the Frankfurt School, Vietnam, rock music, and the pill. Reversing that will take a lot of time.
Camden Long
You have to draw the line somewhere. Nudity is not allowed, because you're infringing on other people's rights to not have to see your naked ugly body when they go out in public. Burqas aren't allowed, because seeing people's faces is integral to our society - the same way people must remove their motorcycle helmets to buy certain things. Essentially if it's not harming anyone or breaking any laws its okay.
Remember if someone has the right to wear something fucking stupid in public - then you also have the right to point and laugh at them.
Jayden Watson
I feel this way with integration. I sort of want forced assimilation but i feel forcing a monoculture would probably infringe upon individual rights. Still hate the failure that is multiculturalism tho
Gavin Clark
Reminder to help uphold true British Values. Make sure your kids see this a lot
Levi Lopez
Can someone please post the Ed pointing at a painting picture? With the commentary
Leo Lee
>Farage >Authoritarian >Labourites and Sturgeon >less authoritarian than fucking Cameron What is this garbage?
Grayson Myers
has this only just reached your area? this is years old news, senpai. nearly a decade this has been going on
Wyatt Campbell
>garbage Lad...
Mason Campbell
Don't fucking get this. How the fuck are Corbyn and Sturgeon in Liberty? Want to snap the twig neck of the runt who made this t b h.
Jason Lopez
I wanna see you set it on fire.
Lincoln Myers
>garbage
Kevin Wood
> Non-religious > Spiritual
WEW E E WEW
Xavier Wright
>Nigel >authoritarian right
What.
Charles Reyes
It's a bit innacurate, too less variables
Brody Ross
Whats with all these new tripfags? YKTD is bad enough
Gabriel Rivera
>British has been morphed into "Multicultural"
Just fuck my realm up.
Liam Baker
Conservatism is the best way to preserve individual liberty - as liberty cannot survive on a societal level without tradition, order, self-restraint and the married family. Since the role of the state is to protect individual rights (life, liberty, property) it is obliged to maintain such a society
Jose Barnes
Looks like the religion of peace has struck again in Germany.
Easton Wood
Marion does not approve
Joshua Baker
They tied Liberalism and Progressivism together into one axis, and the left-right is purely an economic one.
Angel Baker
>Implying she isn't getting gulaged when Corbachev goes full Stalin on the party
Lucas Gomez
It's because they view "liberty" as social liberalism/cultural Marxism and authority as social conservatism. Yes, it's retarded. The x-axis actually represents liberty. I think it's gotten worse recently. I can't remember people using it in school, but at uni even gravelly-voiced Eastern Europeans would begin uptalking by second year.
Jaxon Nguyen
She's a blairite, Corbyn will purge her.
Matthew Lee
HAHAHAHHAHAH!
Julian Mitchell
I think two world wars may have broken Germany.
Blake Russell
Okay, so I'd probably describe myself as a socially conservative libertarian, although that seems like kind of an oxymoron.
One key problem for me is drugs:
On the one hand I believe in freedom, I think that there is such a thing as responsible drug use and I resist the idea that the government can step in and put me in jail for a personal decision that doesn't harm others. From this point of view I think there is an argument to be made for full legalisation.
But then again, drugs destroy people's lives and cause massive damage to society. If they were legalised then there would likely be a large increase in use, which could well be a very bad thing, so there is also an argument for government control for the good of society.
Ideally I think that they should be legal but people should be responsible enough not to misuse them, but I'm not sure that this would actually happen. Are people just too stupid to be allowed complete freedom? should government step in to prevent people using their freedom to behave irresponsibly? Thoughts?
Benjamin Miller
WAR NOW.
Ethan Flores
How many attacks is that in the last 2 weeks now?
Grayson Diaz
>Federal Office for Migration It could be Hans beginning to fight back this time.
Dominic Baker
They want a third one
William White
Could be. Either that or an achmed wasn't processed fast enough so understandably exploded.
Lucas Parker
Wow meme magic strikes again.
>tfw I got 911 digits last night about another terrorist attackin Europe.
Brandon Rodriguez
>drugs destroy people's lives That's their decision and their fault
>If they were legalised then there would likely be a large increase in use Doesn't ever seem to be the case - and legalisation would decrease harmful drug use because it would all be regulated. The black market share would be destroyed
Essentially prohibition doesn't work, because it doesn't make drugs disappear, it just makes it so that you can only get it from criminals who will put dodgy shit in it without consequence
Lucas Martinez
IT WAS A SUITCASE BOMB
Adam Butler
Why?
William Robinson
possible. More likely it's another one like the last one who has been told he's being sent back
Jaxson Jones
I don't think you can really argue that use wouldn't increase if they were legalised. Alcohol and tobacco are incredibly prevalent because they are legal. As far as I know cannabis use in Colorado has increased a lot since legalisation, my uncle recently visited Denver and said that it was almost everywhere and the people are very open about it. Undoubtedly a bad thing in my opinion, especially for young people as it saps the ability, willingness and ambition to work hard. Prohibition is difficult but stable.
Hunter Taylor
I'm not sure how many normies you know, but all of my friends have used cannabis. I'm the only one who hasn't. They get it very easily. As long as there is demand, someone will supply, and it's better that the supplier is legal and subject to regulations, rather than cannabis being illegal and fostering the criminal underbelly of society.
I do wish people would stop using the damn stuff though.
Blake Rivera
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Gavin Rivera
I've used it myself and honestly don't see the point, at least MDMA is good fun, weed just just makes everybody tired and boring.
Jackson Hughes
Alcohol is a human vice, its been around like thousands of years
Look at prohibition in the States, it didn't work at all in stopping people from drinking, and thats not even talking about the effect on crime it had
William Sullivan
Well it's an increase in a safer form of the drug still.
They will never win the war on drugs. People will always take drugs in the thousands (or millions). At the very least you should make sure they are taking something safe.
I'm talking mostly about ecstasy or cannabis here - which 99.9% of people can have without consequences if it's the real shit and not a dodgy batch.
Jacob Nguyen
>Are people just too stupid to be allowed complete freedom? No. Freedom is a means to an end. You don't have to take everything to its logical extreme.
>should government step in to prevent people using their freedom to behave irresponsibly? The government should ensure that citizens are informed about the drugs they take and the effects they bring.
Personally I'd slowly decriminalise and legalise every drug, and the harder (and more addictive) ones, you'd hand them out like prescriptions (except you can just ask for it instead of needing it prescribed). The government would have a recommended dosage, and you'd be informed of that when you receive it.
I've thought about things like limits, prescriptions and whatnot, but those would create a black market, and legalising drugs is meant to destroy that market.
Nathan James
I literally won't ever vote Labour for as long as this disgusting human being is an MP.
Leo Hill
A lot of people lie about it, in my experience. I've known a lot of people who say they use cannabis but I'm almost 100% certain haven't ever or at least don't with any regularity.
Cameron Turner
@afneil 2m2 minutes ago Trump: My friends no longer go to France. France is no longer France. Well I'll be there Saturday (work allowing) and proud to be
Neil's being a massive faggot again lads
Alexander Evans
We'll never win the war on murder either, but we accept that people shouldn't be allowed to do it and that we need to fight it.
I disagree that cannabis doesn't have consequences, I know a few people who use it regularly and they are all NEETs with no drive or ambition, I honestly think it is way worse than ecstasy.
I don't think that freedom is a means to an end, freedom should be an innate trait that is built into the culture of a society, not something that is handed out like school dinners by the government.
Ayden King
Neil loves France.
James Bennett
I agree on legalising cannabis and ecstasy, but for something like meth which can make people addicted with one use, and can cause people to go out and harm someone, there's a case for illegality.
Jonathan Lopez
Murder is a fundamental infringement on another's basic human right to live and absolutely worth fighting. Drugs are not even comparable.
Lincoln Bailey
>freedom should be an innate trait that is built into the culture of a society, not something that is handed out like school dinners by the government. I agree. I just think that the government should be the party that provides restrictions on freedom for everyone's benefit, as it's very easy to see that a society that has total freedom would quickly fall to tyranny.
Anthony Young
Trump is the faggot literally who cares about him outside of America
Matthew Ross
I don't even know what that means... what am I looking (listening) out for?
Connor Brown
>The BR24 news website reported witnesses as saying several Arab-looking men ran away from the scene after the blast.
Jayden Long
Yeah I think most people just use it once because of peer pressure. My point was that it's very easy to obtain already, but the money is going to criminals.
Jayden Long
SO CALLED DAESH
Easton Walker
>I think that people should be free to wear what they like, including the burqa
This is nonsense t b h.
You can't just stroll around naked, you can't just walk around barefoot, you can't just cover your face in public places, you can't go wondering around in long, flowing fabrics that catch on everything.
How you dress is extremely important in terms of functionality in wider society, and that it should be considered as some kind of important pillar of free expression is stupid. Clothes are not hair dye or piercings - they are a fucking tool, a utility item we rely on.
Dress Codes are extremely fucking common in every facet of society, so it's only reasonable they would exist in public too.
It goes without saying that people demanding muslims have a right to wear their fucking ninja outfits are the same people who will call the police if they notice you walking around naked in your own home.
If you come to this country and don't want to dress like we do, then turn around and walk back out the other way thank you.
Sebastian White
I agree, my point was that just because you aren't going to completely stop something, doesn't mean that you should definitely legalise it.
I think it goes the other way, freedoms should be voluntarily given up by people for the good of society through democracy, rather than restrictions imposed by the government. I suppose it amounts to the same thing.
I agree with most of that, my point was that I don't think that it's the role of the government to step in and regulate what people wear. A dress code is a cultural thing not a legal one. As far as I'm concerned people should absolutely be free to stroll around naked, but it should be frowned upon.
Owen Baker
Youtube is such cancer. I don't know what's worse between the rapping brats or the manchild talking about it over irrelevant footage.
Asher Mitchell
The government's recommended dosage of meth would be none, of course :^)
Really though, sniffing glue can kill you in one go and we don't ban glue. I could mix together a concoction of shit in my frying pan, and get addicted to that, and that's not illegal. I don't do those two things because I'm know they'd be really stupid things to do.
There has to be a two-pronged approach. Education is important, and so is security. People will take drugs anyway, and it's important to make sure they are safe whilst doing so, even if it means infringing on their freedoms to ensure so.
Jayden Young
Wtf is this shit. I'm not even religious but we need god or some shit in this country
I like Memelous, but those grime kids are a poison that needs be removed via their removal.
Henry Adams
I see your point now. Like I and many other anons have said - prohibition of drugs is basically equal to advocating a billion pound industry where all the money goes to criminals. We won't win the war on drugs, ever, because it's not a winnable war. And the more you fight it, the higher the consequences and greater the impact on liberty.
