Pros
- Xenomorphs look great
- Score was fantastic
- Cinematography was also fantastic
- Michael Fassbender's acting
Cons
- Rip off Ripley character
- The plot itself (if you missed any of the promotional tie-in clips then you would have been VERY confused with the opening)
- Not really "scary" or "thrilling" at all
VERDICT = 2/5
But enough about what I think, what does the rest of Sup Forums think?
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the original was perfect and was the only good movie of the series
nothing else had even been above a 5/10, aliens was fucking trash
ridley is a hack who cant do anything besides point a camera and the original was only good because the script wasnt written by him and because he got all the hr giger leftovers from dune
The xenomorphs jobbing to construction equipment was ridiculous.
I agree the original is the best out of all of them. But then the second best one for me would actually be Prometheus.
I literally almost burst into laughter in the theater during the Walter/David scenes. The dialogue sounded like it came right out of a gay porno.
it's horror/sci fi kino. it definitely felt way more laid back than prometheus, which seriously suffered from taking its plot, setting, and itself in general too seriously. you're able to just enjoy the scenes and character relationships/aspirations in covenant for what they are rather as opposed to the more dramatic (and rather forced) storytelling in prometheus. prometheus felt too much like it was trying to be fit into a stereotypical modern action format while covenant has more room to explore its own snapshot of a single event in the alien universe.
the plot is definitely derivative of other alien movies, but it's made to be its own unique thing in a way that's really enjoyable. the scene with walter and david where david's showing walter how to play the flute was so bizarre and honestly a really unique moment. i really liked that the overarching theme of the movie was mostly related to david and walter's nature and relation to humanity and creation of life; that was far more interesting than anything in prometheus
that was really endearing to me, honestly. it was incredibly weird to the point of almost being unnerving. it's really interesting though in what it shows about the way two synths relate to each
When are they finally going to give us the xenomorph romance we've always wanted?
I agree Covenant was more laid back. But I really did not give a shit about characters in Covenant. "Oh, somebody else died? Who was that again? Oh well, who's gonna die next?"
I enjoyed the characters in Prometheus a lot more.
The scenes with David and Walter are the best in the film, it really shows how great of an actor Michael Fassbender is.
also that scene with david and the ayy lmao baby raising its arms up in the air was hilarious
The interaction was very interesting. Especially when Walter says how they made so many changes to him that he's a completely different synth compared to David, but he still has the potential to become more like David.
But bro, David's face when the captain shot the alien and then David got real mad about it was the hilarious part.
I need a screencap of his face when shots were fired.
yeah truthfully i don't think you're supposed to be that interested in the human characters; the main point of the movie seemed to be about the interaction of david and walter and david's desire to create life rather than anything else. it was a good move imo since you can only play the "humans' struggle in dire circumstances" card so many times
>But bro, David's face when the captain shot the alien and then David got real mad about it was the hilarious part.
yeah that was amazing. definitely one of the best reactions i've seen in a movie in a while
Yeah, definitely not supposed to care about them since most of them die off in the first half hour of the film
David's desire to create life and become almost "god like" was interesting... But eventually his creations might go down the same path he did. Question why they were made, become unsatisfied, rebel or destroy creator, then create new life....
The cycle would just continue.
synthetic wankfest
so many things didn't make sense to me, then again I hardly remember prometheus and I don't want to watch through all of that again
david is the only creation to seek to destroy its creators, really. humans weren't attempting to destroy the engineers (it would be logical to assume humans wouldn't be capable of that even if they had yet developed any interest in doing so). the xeno don't count since they're just bioweapons the engineers use to wipe out civilizations they've created when they think the civilization has lost its way. david's desire to destroy the engineers (and possibly humanity; i don't think we know if that's his true intention or not yet) is unique
Why does every good series in cinema eventually evolve into an origins plot line that ends up being terrible? Did kids back in the day go 'hmm, you know I really want to know the origins behind the alien or the predator or jason or michael myers or lierally any other character or creature feature where it doesnt fucking matter'
retard alert
Pros
-Daniels was such a QT
Cons
-Everything else
Can someone give me some proper greentext about just how stupid this captain was?
thats some tip top cinematography.
I was hoping this movie would be more about them fighting alien creatures in a nature/forest setting as opposed to spaceship corridors. Pacing was horrible, no tension or build up and the last 20 minutes felt like a rushed remix of other Alien movies.
AGREED!
Fass was this movies only saving grace and the only character who had any sort of development thru out the film.
Everyone else was canon foder
EXTREMLY FUKING STUPID!
What makes him stupid is that he had already realized that David was up to something and doing sinister things.
Then this mother fucker is retarded enough to look into the weird egg thing that david just said he created.
If that was Ripley/Sigourney, she would have torched all those fucking things the moment she saw them
The last 20 minutes was easily the worst part of the movie
David/Walter was the best for a multitude of reasons but then they just HAD to have the egg and facehugger scene
What a fucking waste
You didn't need that shit at all
Just go more and more into David's experiments and his "dreams" and the movie would be way better
sucked
>all of the colonist escorts walk around an alien planet without any kind of respiratory protection
>the pods carrying the crew/colonists apparently have no surge protection so that they don't turn into bbq
>the crew splits up multiple times because ridley is a hack
and as for captain manhattan
>he just walks up to the alien egg (which at this point he can assume that it turns into the creature that he shot)
>he stares at it until it fucks his face
other than that I really enjoyed the david/walter interaction and most of the movie
I'LL DO THE FINGERING
ALSO, this all could have been avoided if the solar sails weren't deployed during the neutrino surge and then got damaged so that Tennessee would then not have gone out into space to repair them where he then would have then not heard Shaw's transmission leading them to the planet in the first place.
Fun fact, James Franco was in this movie... But his name was not in the credits AT ALL.
He asked them to remove his name when he saw how bad it was
>aliens is fucking trash
Weew lad
Oh boy, I can give you a BIG list...
SPOILERS BELOW!
- Sees crewmembers disobeying him (even tho it was someone who just died and they wanted to pay their respects to him anyway) and automatically assumes they hate him and will try to rebel against him
- Decides to go to random planet they just found even though it goes against their mission objectives and other character outlines why this is a huge risk and is not worth it
- Decides to go ahead and fly through a dangerous storm in the planet's atmosphere to get to the surface, loses pretty much all communication with the main ship
- Let's his crew split up until of staying together
- Runs towards a flaming wreckage to save his wife even though she's totally dead and could not have survived AT ALL
- Doesn't kill David when he sees him interacting with the alien right when there is a disembodied head right behind them
- Doesn't kill David when he takes him to his workshop and sees evidence that David is experimenting and creating all these things that are killing his crew
- Goes into the dark cave with David, believes him when he says everything is safe, then looks inside the egg and BAM
He was pretty much the worst captain to ever captain in an alien movie.
Yet he let his buddy Danny McBride stay in the film and actually live until the end?
I kinda would have wanted to see how James Franco's character would have been as the Captain.
pros
>ayylmaos
>great flow
>answered a lot of my questions from prometheus
>davids evolution
>only 10 seconds of james franco
cons
>kinda predictable plot line
>plebs that didnt pay attention enough that ask questions that were answered in the movie
>danny mcbride playing space captain danny mcbride
>no genuine alien atmosphere
i was pretty happy overall, movie ticket was only $9 and there were only 5 people in the movie theater besides me and my gf, cant wait to see the fall of the covenant and the colony and see how it all is gonna tie up that'll be my overall review of how good or bad this prequel series will be.
Some guy behind me started laughing at the "I'll do the fingering" line.
Was it you?
holy shit this is the most reddit post i've seen on Sup Forums
>captain manhattan
i like being reddit :^)
>promotional tie-in clips
What the fuck?
Is this the future of film? You need to watch youtube videos on your smartphone to even know what's going on?
welcome to nu-cinema
I saw people actually defending this because he was supposed to be a man of faith.
For some of the movie, yes.
Want to see what happened directly after Prometheus? promo clip
Want to see who the fuck James Franco was playing or what they are doing in space? promo clip
More like he was a man of believing in good luck.
Didn't see anything that made me think he was a man of faith. At least for Shaw in Prometheus is was obvious.
kek, saved
>- Rip off Ripley character
What? A weak crybaby who has one moment of bravery? She just kinda fumbles her way through the movie. That's not even an insult, she's just a much different character.
It was 6.5/10 and the best flick in the franchise besides the first two.
Plot holes were actually solved btw
The other characters were so shitty, they had to give Fassbender two roles to carry it. Watched it yesterday and only remember David/Walter/Tennessee.
Also, was that ending supposed to be a twist? Fairly obvious the moment David cut his hair that he would switch spots.
Not really that different...
- She looks a lot like Ripley from Aliens
- Warns everyone on how bad their decisions are constantly
- Knocks the alien off the ship and into space by using an airlock... HM, WHO HAVE I SEEN DO THAT BEFORE?
It was actually me, but for some reason, no one else laughed
Then why the fuck didn't they put these into the movie?
Why was Rapace written out? Was her accent really so bad?
Also, David was saying some nice things about her but did directly kill her?
Only one person laughed in my theater.
Did you see it at the Werhenberg 15 in O'fallon?
I kinda just want the next movie to be all about David.
Also, another hint towards the twist... When Daniels and Tennessee were busy luring the alien to the teraforming bay, Walter/David makes this creepy smile and THAT was the moment when I realized that they switched places.
She actually is shown in one of the promo clips for the movie.
Yeah so what happened?
She pretty much fixes up David, they then get ready to go to the home planet of the engineers. David says how Shaw is the most kindest human he's ever met, you can see he's starting to fall in love with her.
Shaw goes into cryo sleep bc they don't know when they will get to the planet. David is alone for an unknown amount of time, learns about the engineers from the ship.
Decides that he wants to destroy the engineers so he can create things himself and so he can be like a god.
And then well, the movie tells you everything else from there.
>best flick in the franchise besides the first two.
FINALLY someone talks some sense
Just saw this utter drivel.
All of the humans are morons far beyond the realm of acceptability (some stupidity is necessary for any movie to succeed).
The key character line is a robot who resents his creators a wants to feel like a god himself. So what does he do? He creates a creature tailored to destroy everything, including himself.
Trash.
These are the type of children watching this movie. The exact type who would ask "should me and the bros see this movie? We've never seen alien before"
At the end of prometheus, "woah is that the alien from the first movie?"
'I didnt get it. No i didnt watch prometheus"
"Ayy lmaos"
"Dude. Im retarded".
Yeah Aliens sucked, the original is amazing, Prometheus was a joke, I liked Covenant though. While it did most things wrong that Prometheus did, it didn't bother me nearly as much because it was just much less offensively stupid.
>>>/reddit/
Funny, I thought this one was more offensively stupid.
>She looks a lot like Ripley from Aliens
She looks literally nothing like Ripley. Literally the only similarity is that they're white and have dark hair. Do you have face-blindness?
>Warns everyone on how bad their decisions are constantly
She does this once at the begining of the movie and it only serves as a bit of ironic foreshadowing because the viewers know exactly what's going to happen.
>Knocks the alien off the ship and into space by using an airlock... HM, WHO HAVE I SEEN DO THAT BEFORE?
How many ways are there to do deal with an alien while basically unarmed? It's effective, what works works. If anything, I;m surprised they don't flush airlocks in other sci-fi shit like Star Wars and Star Trek more often.
rate my new alien story idea:
Dawn of the Dead. But in space.
Basically it takes place in a large shopping mall station. First of it's kind. Big fanfare opening, like the Titanic. Way in to the journey things start going wrong and we watch a ragtag group of people make their way to the lifeboats to get out. There is a zoo on board the station where we get the potential to experiment with different kinds of xenos. No engineer shit but the way Aliens get on to the ship is in the big engine room where the space rocket has gathered floating debris from the void and it's a big hive now where a section of the film is set
...
I actually would really want to see this!
Especially since they said the xenos take on the characteristics of the species they breed with....
Bear Xenos, Horse Xenos, Tiger Xenos....Sloth Xenos, Chicken Xenos..... Oh god.
A weeb with zero argument. Nice.
Yeah, shark xeno for instance
Literally just got back from seeing this. I am a big fan of the Alien franchise, so far as to even enjoy 3 (4 is garbage though, avp are not even considered, and Prometheus is a brown stain as well)
What I hate THE MOST about this movie is that the plot is driven forward due to terrible and downright childish choices made by the characters.
>entire crew is redirected to a new planet
I'm ok with this, since there is reasoning behind some lonely human stuck on an unknown planet needing rescuing
>The field crew wears NO PROTECTIVE CLOTHINGS
There is no forgiving this. Any human anywhere will know that "breathable air" is just one step.... pathogens are the big thing to be looking out for. No expedition would be without a full breathing apparatus. They brought guns, so they were obviously thinking of safety
>McBride willing to sacrifice himself, remaining crew, and the thousand of cryosleep people just because his wife sounded scared on the phone.
Fucking terrible
>Captain sticking his face in the egg after all those red flags
NO
Other issues:
>cgi was at times jarringly obvious. I won't say "bad", but it looked very unnatural. Not in a good way.
>Aliens going from cat sized to full human sized in a matter of minutes
this is sci-fi, not anime. Get your shit together
Now for some Pros:
>alien being channeled through the ship
Some scenes here looked cool
>drunk alone guy in my theater being absolutely shitfaced by the end and saying
>I.... I don't think that's the good robot
>IS THAT SPACE???
>cheering at the sight of tits
>OH SHIT
>Where's Ripley?
>Hudson..... god, why... (he was sniffling and slightly crying)
4/10, not that good of a movie
the first three*
IT'S LIKE POTTERY!
I would personally give a high rating for this movie.
It had to be a sequel to Prometheus, but also an Alien movie, kind of like a transition in between... So it did!
I liked it alot. Also there will be deleted/special/bonus parts of the movie, which will eventually fill all the holes.
>What I hate THE MOST about this movie is that the plot is driven forward due to terrible and downright childish choices made by the characters.
bruh it's a horror movie
what
Yea wasn't really thrilling no suspense and the pacing was just shit at least prometheus had some sense of hmmmmmmmmmm? As oppose to this which was basically ah nah hell nah... hmm, ah nah hell nah.... hmmmm, ah nah hell nah... maybe ...ah nah hell nah... Your actually David... Ah shit we dun goofed again.
>tfw even my dad turned to me and said "has he never seen a movie before?" when he moved close to the egg
Probably my only major gripe with the film desu, which is a shame since I really liked his character apart from this.
same the autism was strong with this one
Daniels going all elite comando at the end was forced. There was literally no indication of her having any kind of skills that would allow her to do what she did. That hole fight sequence on the transport lifting off was ridiculous. Her body would be a broken mess after swinging around like that.
Well with Alien they had that ship, which raised alot of questions about origins. They really only had to tie it in to the story in a simple 1 movie sort of way. But the industry has become a milking cash cow shit fest, so expect at least 2 more movies before it's fully explained.
>derr, why you acting all friendly with these Xeno...Alie....things?
>derr, you sure are different from all those other synthetics, not at all like my man Walter
>derr, if you don't tell me what's going on, I'll shoot ya
>dis fucked up creepy cave?
>dis egg here? You want me to look in it?
>well ok
I guess maybe he was just in shock from all the death that just happened. Like literally everybody died within an hour.
The gore was great, probably the best in the series.
The CGI xenos were fucking terrible though, why can't they just dial it back a bit so we're not watching space monkeys for an hour and a half? These guttural/screeching combinations have been the norm for the two decades, and it's painful to see Scott be a slave to such generic convention when it's primarily a reaction to his work on Alien.
I wonder if people understood that we're seeing the chestburster from David's POV, which is why the alien isn't portrayed as scary. He's a proud father witnessing the birth of his son and all.
Also, when David reappears disguised as Walter when he's leaving the temple, why does he pause to look back?
Why were two important scenes from the movie taken out and put on YouTube? So many people bitched about the movie having gay characters on a colonization mission, but anybody who just watched the movie and not the prologue scenes, would have absolutely no idea that there were gay characters to begin with. Taking out the opening removed all characterization and made James Franco's appearance baffling (it's not even a surprise death in the movie, because he dies before we even know it's him). There's also no reason at all for the Shaw scene to have been removed. None.
Ridley retcons how the facehuggers work and how the chestbursters look. He also took a shit on Prometheus's ending tease that Shaw and David will go to the Engineers' homeworld and find out about them.
Prometheus and Alien: Covenant are bizarre misfires. The only idea I liked was their interpretation of the Space Jockey, but Covenant managed to fuck that up, too.
>without any kind of respiratory protection
Ya that bugged me too. It's assumed they must have scanned the atmosphere remotely and knew it was breathable, but that still doesn't mean there isn't potential for localized toxins/gas.
>surge protection
yep. pretty stupid
>crew splits up
It's like you haven't seen a movie before.
So he can wink at the audience for a second and plant the seed of doubt, he's really just mugging his scars for the camera.
I was thinking more about what the gesture meant for the character. If it was David, was he taking one last look at his home of the past 10 years? If it was Walter, was he haunted by what David said?
She only torched the eggs in Aliens because she's seen what they can do, and even then she had a moment of hesitation
tfw Its 2104... and this shit see pic related is somehow still relevant to own lol
muh references.
Does anyone feel like the Alien franchise has gone the Star Wars route?
>first one is a film that challenges the concept of scifi, takes world by storm
>they hurry to milk the franchise with sequels adding little to the core values, but stuff they can sell as new toys.
>things cool down for some time
>realize they can milk it again
>things that used to be casual stuff are repeated ad nauseum (girl happened to be pushed into the circumstances of the first alien? better repeat the formula 2 more times!)
>try to give explanation to stuff that didn't need it (the force is actually tiny organisms living inside you, the facehuggers actually implant a cancer inside you, etc)
>most importantly, keep adding stuff you can sell as toys (how many types of creatures have they added in covenant? 5?)
Just milk my shit up.
but only human male female xeno
Can somebody redpill me why alien 3 gets so mich hatte?
>>first one is a film that challenges the concept of scifi, takes world by storm
You forgot make a sequel that's arguably better than the original!!!
>they hurry to milk the franchise with sequels adding little to the core values, but stuff they can sell as new toys.
In the "Will rewatch as an excuse to 'netflix&chill' and grope the girl while we watch" category, the movie is a 10/10
The film is entertaining so it's not an awkward bore fest but girls don't really give a shit about those movies so you can just start making out whenever you want. Prometheus was great for it too.
THIS and every remake ever, even the ones that are meant to be comedies and spoofs of the original. Except 21 jump street those motherfuckers understood how stupid this shit really is and ran with it for a great ending sequence youtube.com
>Want to see what happened directly after Prometheus?
Shaw repairs David and they go to the Engineers' homeworld
>Want to see who the fuck James Franco was playing
He was playing the captain who died at the beginning
>or what they are doing in space?
They are on a colonization mission
All of that is explicitly said in the movie. You don't need to watch the promo clips to get anything, they only flesh out the characters a little bit more.
Why do people say alien is a good movie? Aged horribly and ripped from a older movie.
Friendly reminder that we missed out on Neill Blomkamp's Alien for this.
Friendly reminder Predator > Alien