What is the endgame of the eternal A*strian?

telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/12/18/austrias-new-government-stokes-secessionist-row-northern-italy/

>Austria’s new government found itself embroiled in a diplomatic row with Italy on its first day in office on Monday after offering to grant passports to German-speaking inhabitants in Italy’s South Tyrol region.

>Italy reacted angrily to the Austrian initiative, saying the new government was heading down a dangerous path.

>"Even if done with the velvet glove of Europeanism, Kurz's proposal has the mark of an ethno-nationalist iron fist," Benedetto Della Vedova, an undersecretary at the foreign affairs ministry, wrote on Facebook.

Reminder that Alto Adige is rich only because the italian government lets it keep most of their taxes, they have no interest in seceding from Italy

So this time the eternal Austrian is going to get rid of Italy early?

the austrian
he fuels wars
he starts wars

The Austrian eagle has lost its feathers!

they'll get away with it too
austrians are so god mode

>hey you guys can have passports because we're very close and quite similar :)
fucking notsees REEEEEEE

round 2

Honestly I don't understand why people are so buttmad about this, we barely consider them italian whenever we hear their horrendous italian.

Frenchies and Spaniards speak better italians than filthy Südtir*oler. They can take their citizenship and fuck off to Austria.

this, is not even about muh lands. It's just giving some larpers documents. Hopefully they can leave italian lands to head more north and leave us our Lebensraum

THIS i hope they exile themself

>What is the endgame of the eternal A*strian?
Ruining Europe for the nth time.

Why is this still an issue? North of the province that is full of Austrians should come to us, the southern half with Italian population should stay with Italy and become a normal province.

Other than that I fully support the government on this. These people have resisted fascist oppression and eradication campaigns for 100 years now, they are our people and we must support them in any way we can.

based austrians should ask for reparations too

>autrians starting shit in europe

Nothing new

Austria is going to get buttblasted in every diplomatic way possible, they like to act like little Germany so they might think they hold the same weight in European politics but they fucking don't. This is a blatant land grab on their part and it's not going to end well for them.

wasn't supposed to be a reply but since it's an austrian post ill leave it up lel

>they're still mad

Essentially, austrians elected the a mad lad that's going full alt-reich.
Forget Orban and PIS or AFD or any of the other conmen.
This nigger is the one crazy enough to actually do shit. He's already passed a law that mandates all the valuebles refugees have on them belong to the state and will be used to fund their stay.
Haha this fuck wants to reunite with Germany haha get your bunkers read haha

First the welfare refugees receive will be slashed by about 60% and in a second step they will receive only food and a place to sleep. Housing refugees in a private home will become illegal. Also cell phones and all data on it will be confiscated. And a whole bunch of other crap.

He's going in at full force.

>mfw all the S*dtirolesi migrate to Austria

this

But the people in south tyrol are austrian, i dont see what the problem is. We had a similar arrangement between northern and southern ireland

You should start yet another world war, maybe you will manage to not lose this one and recover all your territories. Until then, Austria stops at the Brenner

They're austrians because we've protected their rights with mutual agreements with Austria. If they're gonna fuck things up we might as well abolish anything related to bilingualism, we'll see if they're still 70% German after 50 years.

only 63% of them, it is a balkan style region

Hahah wir sind wieder da!

it's rich because the people are germans and not italian goblins

It's rich because they have almost no statal taxes and receive millions in gibs to prevent them from chimping out like they did in the '60s

Grüßen Sie ihn schön von mir.

austrians are far far far less right wing and nationalist than italians.

so this thread says a lot about italian nationalism and bigottery. italians hunger greedily for every tiny bit of land not caring what people live in it and what the people living there want.

they have never learned their lesson in ww1 and ww2. they are still fascist right wingers. you can see the ugly face of their stupid poisonous nationalism in this very thread.

the italians would be perfectly fine with italians in austria receiving italian passports.

>the italians would be perfectly fine with italians in austria receiving italian passports.
Except there are no Italians in Austria that are not expats

leave little germany alone

>only 63% of them
because Mussolini lowered the % with terronis

Too bad he stopped before he could make it 0% because he didn't want to hurt his buttbuddy's feelings

in ww1 italians literally went to war and died in the ten thousands because they could not stand that there were italians in austria.

this mindset still lingers in the italian society. nationalism in austria got purged, nationalism in italy never got. you are full of it, i can sense it in you.

>in ww1 italians literally went to war and died in the ten thousands because they could not stand that there were italians in austria.
Yes, in 1915, you were talking at the present tense
>this mindset still lingers in the italian society. nationalism in austria got purged, nationalism in italy never got. you are full of it, i can sense it in you.
I'm not the one whose government is starting a diplomatic crisis over nationalistic issues

the thing about nationalism is that you need to have a nation to have any. What you call Austria (or rather what's left of it) would barely be a region in another country :^)

>I'm not the one whose government is starting a diplomatic crisis over nationalistic issues
btfo

>austria
>getting rid of italy
maybe in 1850, we are in 2017 now

GOTT ERHALTE

>I'm not the one whose government is starting a diplomatic crisis over nationalistic issues
its not a nationalistic issue when austrians receive austrian passports. we have absolutely 0 quarrel with italy and south tyrol will never be austrian because austrians dont give a fuck to which country it belongs. i am an austrian right winger and i am perfectly fine with it staying in italy.

we are both in the EU, you can live in austria anytime you want and i can live in italy if i want. and then why should i give up my austrian passport when i move to italy? why should you have to give up yours when you move to austria?

do you think we are like the russians and our military will just seize the land? you are fucking kidding me.

>We finally get 1 nationalist/identitarian government in Europe
>they immediately start shit with other Europeans giving credit to leftists when they say nationalism bring conflict
Why are nationalists such brainlets? you can actually start lobbying for mass repatriation of non-Europeans and instead they talk shit about muh south Tyrol, I have no words.
They can fuck off to Austria btw, they will get back their territory when we get back Corsica, the Cote d'Azur, Dalmatia, Istria etc. etc.

> offering to grant passports to German-speaking inhabitants in Italy’s South Tyrol region.

Why did they offered such a thing? :3

>its not a nationalistic issue when austrians receive austrian passports
It is when they are Italian citizens
>have absolutely 0 quarrel with italy and south tyrol will never be austrian because austrians dont give a fuck to which country it belongs. i am an austrian right winger and i am perfectly fine with it staying in italy.
>we are both in the EU, you can live in austria anytime you want and i can live in italy if i want. and then why should i give up my austrian passport when i move to italy? why should you have to give up yours when you move to austria?
Then why issue the passports if not for some sort of passive-aggressive revanchisme?
>do you think we are like the russians and our military will just seize the land? you are fucking kidding me.
No, but since those guys already have an history of violent terrorism, maybe it will spark back their homicidal vein. Also, you can't just unilaterally give citizenship to citizens of another country

Because Austrian nationalists are still butthurt over WW1 and Hitler being too much of a Mussolini fanboy to do anything about it

>tfw we were the actual cancer of europe and not germany back in the days

the austrian government is neither nationalist nor identitarian.

we are sweden tier leftists who give every "refugee" 900 euro per month unconditionally.
weve been the country with the most asylum applications per capita in the EU and probably in the whole world for the last 2 consecutvie years, we ve even surpassed sweden and germany. in 2015 we took in 80.000 "refugees", 1% of the population. a right wing government wouldn do that.

and the party that was in the governemnt then is also in the new "nationalist" government. they are not right wing in the least. its a media hoax and you fell for it.

But we really didn't do much until 1936, if anything we were at the forefront of the anti-Germany coalition

austria is giving out free passports? what the fuck?

FRANZ DEN KAISER

Such is the power of nationalistic butthurt

>you can't just unilaterally give citizenship to citizens of another country
every country does that. if you applied for american citizenship your country wouldnt even be informed of that. thats why so mayn people have dual citizenship. countries usually dont tell other countries the identities of their citizens.

no, absolutely not. you are not getting it. you project your own nationalism on austrians. i am swearing to you, austrians dont give afuck about nationalism. it is seen as nazi tier here. if youre an austrian nationalist people will give you weird looks and shun you.

i would be very happy if austrians were right wing leaning but they absolutely are not. they are sweden tier cucks.

Thank you. :3

>individual naturalization is the same as giving citizenship to a whole ethnic group living in another country
Yeah, no

Wouldn't such a move be considered imitation to what Orban did in Hungary by granting hundred of thousand ethnic related hungarian balkans citizenship in order to secure the vote for him? iirc southern Austria is considered a strache territory, I don't know if south tirol also share the same political views, but if so then you got your answer, it is not about land, it is about votes for future elections.

I am proud of Austria :D

>no, absolutely not. you are not getting it. you project your own nationalism on austrians. i am swearing to you, austrians dont give afuck about nationalism. it is seen as nazi tier here. if youre an austrian nationalist people will give you weird looks and shun you.
Then why are you giving those passports, since we are both EU and enjoy the exact same rights in our respective countries? Answer: because you are a bunch of revanchist krauts

>>they immediately start shit with other Europeans giving credit to leftists when they say nationalism bring conflict

Maybe because nationalism really brings conflict ;^)

>i am swearing to you, austrians dont give afuck about nationalism
Didn't you just elect a partly nationalist government?

lel, usually the prove that you are part of an ethnic group is the fastest way to citizenship.

turks here in austria all have a turkish passport and are official citizens of turkey, same with iranians and a bunch of other nationalities.
they only have to prove that they have turkish ancestry, nothing else. there is shit we can do about that because of course they dont officially tell.

israel grants citizenship the same way, prove that you are jewish and you are in.

its called ius sanguinis and is the worldwide leading principle of how to get a citizenship.

im betting even italy does it the same way.

>give passport to some sub-saharan rapist
this is fine
>give passport to people who share your religion, culture and language
this is right-wing declaration of war

The conditioning is strong in the degenerated leftist mind

>turks here in austria all have a turkish passport and are official citizens of turkey, same with iranians and a bunch of other nationalities.
Wow, so immigrants are citizens of their country of origin? Never knew that!
>its called ius sanguinis and is the worldwide leading principle of how to get a citizenship.
And deciding to give it to people outside your own country has a clear political meaning, in this case: "South Tyrol is Austria please come free us from the ebul shitalian oppressors :("

because austrians can apply for austrian passports the same way italians can apply for italian passports. thats a fundamental right of every citizen even our lefty cucks can accept.

its the right of every human on earth to apply for every citizenship on earth and every state can give it to every human being who wants it.

if south tyroleans truly feel themselves to be italian, then why would they accept the austrian citizenship?

if south tyroleans are really italians they will want to stay italian and will refuse an austrian passport the same way i would refuse an italian passport if it were offered to me.

so basically what you fear is that south tyroleans dont see themselves as italians and so you want to restrict their rights. thats pretty much straight ethnic nationalism.

It's in their right to ask Austrian citizenship, but the Austrian government outright saying that all German speakers in Alto Adige will get Austrian citizenship is a provocation that in the past would have been met with war

So no problem with giving ticinoeses italian citizenship right?

Why not give it to Albanians that speak Italian, too? After all, they were part of the Italian Empire once! Then they can all legally move to Austria, which surely will not refuse them entrance, because they are absolutely not nationalists

>"South Tyrol is Austria please come free us from the ebul shitalian oppressors :("
thats your interpretation.

south tyroleans are very content with their status in italy and are strongly against reuniting with austria. if anything they would use a double citizenship to cherry pick from both nations.

fun fact: they already do that since they have many special rights in austria and in many cases are legally regarded as austrian citizens. this is not new but has never bothered you before.

you are only here because some italian news outlet propaganda has made a clickbait article in which they portrayed a foreign nation as your enemy and it triggered your primitive nationalist feelings. you totally fell for it and now you pester us here with your butthurt.

Many problems can only be resolved through conflict.

Doesn't matter now that leftists flooded Europe with shitskins. You reap the chaos you sow.

If they already have special rights, if anyone can ask for any citizenship they feel like asking for, if ius sanguinis was already established in Austria, why is your newly elected government publicizing giving them passports?

What’ Up with u little austrians? Looking for trouble? Do we have to stomp ur face again?
Pathetic pangermanistic swines

>the freedom of nations is a provocation that should be met with war
thats basically fascist ideology what you are reciting, let that sink in for a minute.

Go get genocided, jizzskin

>peace in europe
>austria: hold my beer :D

Maybe if you're a brainlet.

*gets anschlussed like a bitch*

Go rip the flesh off your own leader leftie.

>inciting separatism in a region that was troubled by secessionist terrorism until pretty recently is "freedom of nations"

>leader

Lmao only cucks have leaders

to be honest, it's not surprising to see separatism in a region taken from a neighboring country following a controversial war

inb4 Austria returns to the borders of 1722

>austria: italy pls give our land back ww1 was ages ago
>italy: no

Italy always seem to me to be one of those countries that will blame all their problems on other poeple.

Then maybe they shouldn't go reviving it with pointless stunts like this one

>why is your newly elected government publicizing giving them passports?
politicians say all sorts of things, as an italian you should know that its mostly bullshit and hardly anything of it ever becomes reality.

i guess they will change the citizenship law to "everyone that has lived in the area of south tyrol for 20+ years may apply for austrian citizenship" and since it has to be made according to EU regulations, which forbid discrimination of other EU nationalities, i bet in the end it would even mean that ethnic italians living in south tyrol would be able to succesfully apply for an austrian citizenship if they wanted.

You are delusional.

We are the biggest self-haters possible, we just hate Austrians more

Are you an immigrant? You must be because I went to school with Italians and none of them were so vile.

They need a Napoleon III to calm them

oh hey, condolences on the loss of your ancient King

>lol they don't really mean it
Then they shouldn't have said it if they didn't want to be met with hostility and suspicion of wanting to undermine our national integrity

>Austrians
Why? Austrians are just like weak Germans

The Irish do that to people here all the time. I think Britain should offer them to pure Anglo diaspora.

I'm not, I simply support the genocide of your people

Just 100 years of wars against them

Because they had been occupying our lands for some hundred years until WW1 set things right

they should extend the offer to venetians :D

Venetians may not be too fond of Italy, but they fucking hate Austrians

if the personal freedom and the civil liberty of a few dudes in the alps can undermine the national integrity of italy, then perhaps italy isnt very stable to begin with.

you italian guys in this thread are sheeple. i bet your politicians just laugh at their asses off because you are so easily to distract. they just point you towards an outer "enemy" and you will quickly forget the mass unemployment, the failing economy, the rampaging corruption, the mafia and the huge ever increasing unpayable debts. all of that is meaningless when you can attack some minority in the mountains.