Will nationalistic atheism save the west?

I wouldnt mind being Christian but they are all so cucked.

Where are all the strong ideologies that want to save the west?

Yes.

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>nationalistic atheism

No.

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Atheism has always been intertwined with the far left, marxism and anti-nationalism. They're basically sleeper agent Jews.

>vehicles fuck each other and have offspring

this is not a religious war, you problem is you do not know your own structer of belief, you appear to lack faith.

>Atheism has always been intertwined with the far left, marxism and anti-nationalism

>Mussolini regarded his time at a religious boarding school as punishment, compared the experience to hell, and "once refused to go to morning Mass and had to be dragged there by force."[167]

>Mussolini would become anti-clerical like his father. As a young man, he "proclaimed himself to be an atheist[168] and several times tried to shock an audience by calling on God to strike him dead."[166] He believed that science had proven there was no god, and that the historical Jesus was ignorant and mad. He considered religion a disease of the psyche, and accused Christianity of promoting resignation and cowardice.[166]

Always is a very long time

>atheism born in ancient Greece
>Marxism developed in 19th century
Sounds about right

never.
as long as man rules over man, there will be conflict.

Modern atheists simply follow the religion of egalitarianism, being more fanatic about it than even the most evangelical of Christians. That religion of egalitarianism has all but ruined Western Civilization.

>crocodile almost the same as human
So, reptilians were true all along!

athiesm is as bluepill as you can get. literal jewish trickery

more cucked than silly neopagan filth

the only thing atheists save is coupons for half off bigmacs

>as long as man rules over man, there will be conflict.
This has got to be the dumbest thing I've ever fucking heard.

God did deliver justice to the fascist faggot Mussolini. He was struck dead. Eat shit fascist faggots.

Atheism hasn't been proven though. It's best to take a neutral ground with being agnostic.

So Christianity is better?

A religion created by Jews for Jews? No thanks.

Atheism has its cucks but it's still much better than a non white Jew religion.

Since when do whales have hands

>A religion created by Jews for Jews?
you just described athiesm

such a sad little boy

No, eroding the Christian influence on western culture is exactly what the commies wanted. They believed the Americas Christian roots was detrimental to the spread of their ideology and that it must first be undermined before a socialist revolution could take place, just because they people who originally planned it are long dead doesn't mean the threat is gone.

Athiesm meshes to well with subjective morality and nihilism, both of which are corrosive to a well functioning society.

Which do you think is more likely?:
>That there is a god
>or that there isn't
Are you really 50/50, because I bet you lean one way.
Hello spic

>Atheism
>Strong ideology

The "New Atheist" movement died out in the '00s when people realized there was no real point to it and it was mostly a way for Atheists to bitch about Christians. I remember the lofty claims like how atheism would mean the end of war!! Atheists basically did nothing for years but circlejerk over how stupid the stupidest of all Christians were, and how insane the most insane of all Christians were, like the Jesus Camp people. People talked about maybe supporting universal Unitarian churches so Atheism could maintain the community aspect of the church, but it never went everywhere, and UU churches are bluepilled as fuck. They did the atheist blood drive on the national day of prayer, and a few other protest things, but honestly they were all pretty fucking petty.

Religions stupid bullshit but is hardly the greatest problem facing the world. Nowadays the DNC conspiring to expose Sanders as an atheist is an actual scandal that loses the Democrats votes.

Ah, so you have no grasp on history

judaism is a tribal construct masked as a religion.

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Modern atheists are cucks
Modern Christians are cucks

That's the whole point of this thread
>where are the strong ideologies that will save the west

Well except when it comes to muzzies of course, the only religious/non-religious group hated more than atheists. Atheists in the west spend all their time whinging about Christians though.

figures a pathetic child would be so ignorant

they come from spiritual enlighternment, politics is the new religion.

Atheism was not created by Jews

Christianity was created by Jews

I can't make it much simpler for you

prove it

>implying worship of the state leader Kim Jon Un isn't a state religion
>implying

Y the fug do I have an Egyptian foot? My entire family is of German and British ancestry.

I am an atheist or at least something like that and I don't even care what others think about their place in the universe. I can't stand being thrown into the same bag with all these 15-20 years old "atheists".

jews created there own prison is which they sit, to keep the GOYIM OUT, enjoy your tiny country.

>nationalistic atheism
Stalin is dead, mate. Atheist don't fight back with weapons anymore.

Because it's pseudoscience, this is Sup Forums. This place is full of it.

Because you are taking some shitty 18th century pseudoscience seriously.

>implying evolution is atheist
The Catholic Church (the one true church) has always supported evolution.

Remember: To know the world is to glorify God.

Maybe

I lack faith in a god because all the gods today are weak, their followers pitiful and apathetic.

Modern Christians disgust me. They talk about how great they were and how wonderful and powerful their God is, yet here they are rotting away. Losing their land and grasp on its people. They are dying.

idol worship and state religion are 2 diffrent things

Brits not only have their own connections to Egypt, but Brits are connected to Romans, who were very connected to Egyptians. Your great*X grandpappy got himself some desert booty user, you waz kangs.

The usual approach is to call yourself an agnostic because every Atheist is also an Agnostic. To me it's basically stating you don't give a fuck about the whole religion debate.

Yeah some Atheists will say to you "You can't be an agnostic! Everybody has an opinion! You have to say if you think it's likely that god exists or not" but you just pretend you didn't hear them and ignore them.

>"You can't be an agnostic! Everybody has an opinion!
They're right though.

Something as important at the existence of a Supreme Being that plans all our lives cannot just be an "Oh well" opinion. It necessary changes how you live each moment.

It's like having a gun pointed at you. You cannot have no opinion on whether it is loaded or not. No sane person who understands the stakes would be apathetic.

What if all humans suck. But we all suck in slightly different ways?

The other benefit to calling yourself an Agnostic is it really really fucking annoys fanatical Atheists.

>call yourself an agnostic because every Atheist is also an Agnostic
>every Atheist is also an Agnostic
thats just ignorant.

It doesn't necessarily mean I don't give a fuck about the whole debate, the problem is there is barely anything to talk about. We humans are so fucking arrogant thinking we can even grasp the concept of reality with today's knowledge. We still don't even understand how the fucking brain works. How are we here still arguing about souls and heavens?

Wait, that doesn't happen!?

Where do cars come from then!???

But are you 50/50? Do you think there is an equally good chance there is or isn't a god?

If not, witch do you think is more likely

atheism means that you don't believe in any religion (religion= bleieving in one or many gods and practice these beliefs), so the first person who was an atheist wasn't a jew. It's just logical thinking and atheism was "invented" in greece anyways
not that it would matter because clearly all religious people are superstitious and are ill in their mind, it doesn't matter who founf the truth because even really stupid people can find such an easy truth as atheism

God won't help you unless you would pray

I've never actually met anybody that actually described themselves as a Gnostic Atheist. I've heard of the concept many times but I've never actually met a person that actually seemed to genuinely be called a 100% Gnostic Atheist.

Agnosticism just means "I don't have any idea about religion or theology"

are you stupid ? that's just playing wirh words
obviously we do compared to something better but we don't compare the best human with something better because our vocabulary would be useless then and words like good would be replaced with "not as bad" which is the same, it's just a backward way of thinking

I don't need help, the western world needs help.

And this is what I mean when I say modern Christians are pathetic. Go ahead and pray but actually do something else along with it.

I'll support Christians the day they do more than pray and actually start fighting again.

Screwed up my phrasing editing, meant to say I've never actually met somebody that could be called a 100% gnostic atheist.

I've heard people call themselves gnostics before, but usually only because they want to differentiate themselves from fence sitting fucking agnostics and they're 99.99999999% sure god doesn't exist, not because they actually ARE gnostics.

>implying Egyptians weren't white

A verse that everyone knows, that maybe is overlooked in the sense of its full meaning is John 1:1, which says "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.". Notice the word Word is repeated 3 times, once for each person of the trinity and 3 times in total to stress the meaning. In the Begining God created the heaven and the earth, in response to the question of number 1 importance "How Did I get here" comes three 1s, First book of the Bible, first chapter, first verse. and in that sense the first sentence (GENESIS 1:1 IN THE BEGINING GOD CREATED THE HEAVENS AND THE EARTH) of the Bible answers that question, the Begining of the Word which in the begining was with God and in the begining was God is the first sentence of God's communication with his creation in that Single Spoken Word (uni-verse) "Was with God in the Begining" John 1:2 which in the begining of time was Created by him that without him would there: first, be no universe to question, and second: be no answer to the first question. "Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made." John 1:3. Even despite the truth in the most obvious sense come the deniers scoffing after their own lusts in the hope of silencing that inner voice that torments them, believing not their inner torment is a blessing that it gives them a chance to avoid the true torments of the spiritual being that made in new flesh in the last daysso that his life shall be eased by soothsaying demons reading through textbooks, "The origin of the species", "I'm Ok, you're ok" even all writing that is protected by the government of satan shall in his mind the flesh out his bones the deception instead of in truth recitation that life is a Line Segment leading to an Elipse which never ends.

Could you explain what a "gnostic theist" is?

Its leader has a fetish for licking "refugee" feet and after some mudshit slits the throat of one of his priests he goes full #notallmuslims.

Cathocucks are a joke, always have been.

Wasn't he sworn to a life of pacifism as well

>Its leader has a fetish for licking "refugee" feet and after some mudshit slits the throat of one of his priests he goes full #notallmuslims.
If you don't understand why he does that, then you are not a true Christian

Why can't women shake hands? Seriously it's so goddamn irritating. Sure there are a few guys who can't shake your hands well, but goddamnit I've never met a girl who has an even somewhat decent handshake. And there are a shitton of women who prefer and do handshakes all the time. Whyyyy must they force this, they obviously suck at it RRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Seriously thinking about doing the whole hand kissing thing, at least then I don't have to do those shitty handshakes with them. I don't even care if I'm viewed as a creep, at least they won't offer me their hands the next time.

>atheism hasn't been proven
You are fundamentally misunderstanding this entire situation.
The idea of atheism makes no claims. It just rejects the claims made by religions. Atheism is the default, religion makes claims.
Since religions are making outstanding claims, the burden of proof lies on those religions. Since no reliable evidence exists for religions and there is evidence for opposing ideas (evolution v creation, for example), that would mean that Atheism has been "proven" by the fact of religion ranging from unproven to thoroughly disproven.

Haha! And no woman would claim to have been anywhere near your shriveled stinking dick. This autistic, materialistic viewpoint is why you people SUCK at social situations or anything beyond 8th grade science.

Wow, what a mature argument indeed. You sure showed him with that clearly formulated logic!

Great argument there buddy, 10/10

Good job getting laid with your "clearly formulated logic" you atheist scumbag, assuming you can get your fat ass up from pokemon and minecraft

Any idea how many atheists I've met who think they're intelligent just because they're atheists? You're not intelligent. You're a fedora-wearing euphoric little idiot who looked on r/atheism one day and said "wao im one uf thos" and now thinks he's fucking smart. Anyone who claims to be intelligent and uses grandiose words like "gilded in the golden crest of knowledge" to describe how fukn smart omg they are automatically appears less intelligent than an average person. Go fuck yourself you stupid fedora. Like every great military hero, every great scientist who believed in God was "stupid" but some fat ass autist with C U C K genes is smarter. Disgusting.

Their palms are narrower and aren't as far across

An Agnostic is defined as "a person who believes that nothing is known or can be known of the existence or nature of God or of anything beyond material phenomenal; a person who claims neither faith nor disbelief in God."

Gnostic Atheist = Knowing for sure there is no god, or claiming disbelief in god.

Vertually all Atheists technically agnostic athiests on some level as vertually every one believes you cannot prove god does not exist 100%. You can't disprove the existance of an omnipotent god because an omnipotent god could do literally anything while leaving no evidence behind.

There are vertually no Gnostic Atheists that actually believe you can prove beyond any doubt god does not exist. There are self-described Gnostic Atheists that just use it as a way to clarify that they're really really sure god doesn't exist, although you could really define them as agnostics as well and you wouldn't be wrong.

Self-described "Agnostics" are usually atheists that don't want to associate themselves with the Atheist movement.

Agnostic Theists also exist, although they're rarer.

There are also agnostics with really weird beliefs, Einstein was a self-described agnostic largely because he hated Atheists (really, read up on it) that in reality believed in god as described by Spinoza. Agnostic has long been the favoured label of people that don't want to get into debates about religion.

How is that the people who believe in power of genes are the ones who shouldn't reproduce?

Makes you think.

Well damn! I am now a Christian. I want to be just like you

pic related the thread

Do you believe in leprechauns?
No, that'd be silly.
You're an gnostic disbeliever in leprechauns.

What about the Inuit goddess who pissed on a rag and threw it into the ocean and created the Greenland shark?
That sounds like really dumb thing to believe. I highly doubt that there is a shred of belief that that story might be true.
You're a gnostic disbeliever in that goddess.

Being gnostic isn't the same as pretending to be omniscient.

True 50/50 Atheist/Theist people exist as well, especially among people that are having a crisis of faith.

Atheist leaning agnostics are the most common though, but agnostics usually try and avoid religious debates and will often be evasive about what exactly they believe.

Oh here it goes. Poke an atheist a few times and they will resort to their "Superior genes! Kill the handicapped" evil, edgy, unamerican filth

Thanks, that helped clear things up

Atheism in Europe caused the cease of the national identity, where leftism filled that void and now is killing it within.

Why are you angry that someone disagrees with you on something so abstract and unknowable? You're making value judgments about a person's character without even acknowledging their argument. If anyone is autistic it's you.

> you cannot prove god does not exist 100%

But you can, user. To be more precise, you can prove that a non-deistic god doesn't exist, so if he does, it is deistic. However, if God is deistic in his nature, why the hell would you bother praying, etc - he either can't or won't interfere.

I'm atheistic, but I would want for a deistic approach in religion. However, there is none, and there won't be, because people apparently want
>muh jesus
too much.

>atheism
>not Jewish
Sure, next thing you'll be calling us cis white males

Belief in God is about a relationship, with God and other people. It is about being a good person with values and morals. Something Autistic people cannot understand. You try to understand the world with science and mathematics but end up being a retarded, evil reject

Great example, here we see our typical Gnostics. Notice the quotes

"To be more precise, you can prove that a non-deistic god doesn't exist"

"Being gnostic isn't the same as pretending to be omniscient."

They are admitting there is no way to definitively disprove god on an ultimate level. They however, identify themselves as gnostics because they actively have the opinion that god does not exist. They believe that defining themselves as agnostics because technically you can't prove god does/doesn't exist is meaningless. They think if you believe god does/doesn't exist you should call yourself a gnostic, if you're not sure you should call yourself an agnostic.

That is not an incorrect way to use the word "Gnostic". If however, you use "agnostic/gnostic" in the sense of "Can you 100% disprove a diestic god exists" they can also be described as agnostic.

The point I was trying to get in the OP is that vertually any atheist can apply the label "agnostic" to themselves and it's not technically wrong. It really pisses off people like the people that I just linked to which see "agnostics" as little bitch fence sitters afraid to talk about what they actually believe and instead falsely pretend to be "neutral". This of course pleases people that describe themselves as "Agnostic" which see "Atheists/Gnostic Atheists" as fedora wearing autists that debate unimportant shit constantly and would like to not associate with them.

Really I've seen semantic debates about this stretch over a decade so I'm really tired of arguing this, I'm just trying to point out the debate exists.

So we shouldn't kill the Muslims?
A Greek that doesn't know his own history

Christianity is only tolerable because of its pagan roots.
The objectively best religion is Greek Polytheism.

An American that wants the destruction of the west? What a surprise

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on the other hand Satanism....

Atheists are pathetic, because you are fucking mind-reading psychic. No, I don't mean that prayers is all that gonna make world ok

I just believe in Grand Scheme, that God creates (like butterfly effect) - small things that leads to greater ones.
God only controls small things, he won't win war for you

And why I said that atheists are pathetic? Because atheists can't form stable society.
Just fucking name one that lasted at least few full generations. You can't fucker

>inb4 China and North Korea

Chirstanity was always cuckoldry: the religion
Reviving paganism would be the only way to save us

i'm like 90% sure shes got a spic boyfriend

>They are admitting there is no way to definitively disprove god on an ultimate level.
Just for a moment, think of all the things that "there is no way to definitely disprove".

Make a list.
That list will be infinitely long.

Things that cannot be disproven cannot be proven.
Things that cannot be proved or disproved do not exist.
I challenge you to name one concrete thing that everyone agrees exists but cannot be proved or disproved.