Why don't you support a moneyless society, Sup Forums?

Why don't you support a moneyless society, Sup Forums?

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Communists are mistaken. Without currency people will still find things to fight over/lord over others. At its most base, probably sexual partners for example. Conflict/strife wouldn't just eradicate itself. Other facets of society would fill the void.

>yes goy no money for society, it would be so great!

Joseph Goebbels wasn't a communist though.

Because nothing is free ever. Money changes the true cost of something into a tangible medium of exchange. Money is not what makes slaves of us. We make slaves of ourselves by subjugating ourself to our desires

So?

Everything is free, we just put a price on it.

Because its impossible as humans have an infinite amount of greed, You need money to create order to human greed user..

That doesn't change what he said. Humans naturally put value on things, and want to own said things. That wont change if currency is suddenly out of the picture.

Yes it will, there would be no point to hoard items if there is no currency to attain from selling the items.

Sorry thats bullshit. Name single point in history when a society had free shit for everybody, you cant. You could say "everything SHOULD be free", and maybe thats true. However it wont happen, its a utopian pipe dream. Live in reality.

Have you been watching enemy at the gates? :)

Yes, there was tribalism, which is essentially national socialism in its purest form.

My labor is not free. If you want me to dedicate my time and energy to you in some way you owe me.

Suggest otherwise and you may as well bring back slavery.

The point of hoarding the items will be to have the items. People hoard some resources without the intent of selling them later on.

Actuallym Civilization and Its Discontents by Sigmund Freud. He says something along those lines, I was mostly paraphrasing.

If you get shit for free (food, healthcare, education) AS LONG you work, it won't affect you in that case. In fact, you will get a net benefit over the current system.

I see that as very doubtful of happening in a moneyless society. Again, there would be no reason unless they were a dick.

its all about resourses the money is just a way to have a exchange market

you can exchange goods for services and vice versa just careful to not upset your masters if they ask to gib taxes

Nope. slaves were fed for free, housed for free, clothed for free, and given medical care for free. Changes nothing. Their labor was not given of free will, it was compelled. Your dream world is the same deal.

Joseph ((((Goldfish))))

>bring back slavery.

as if are not the version of a sofisticated modern one...

socialism has many forms, user

What's the incentive to improve and be creative in a moneyless society?

You just keep working your menial job "according to your ability" and get some food not to starve "according to your needs". You will never get more than that so what's the point in trying?

Without money we cannot quantify goods and services. So every good and service would be assumed to have equal value. And that sounds ideal until you compare a janitors job to a physicians and a stick of gum to a diamond.

Money is how we express worth. And a society with out money would be worthless.

I enjoy my job. Earn more than what my reasonable needs require. I'm not a slave.

ok maybe the reality of my country is the opposite

the way you speak sounds like you are confort with your society

I agree, speaking in its current form of money.

Everything is not free. Sure money is an invention of humanity but the concept of expending energy to interact with our environment to benefit from it is a law of nature itself.

how much taxes you pay month ?

"The glory and well being of your race as a whole". Its more or less the point of nazi-fascism.

They thought in the society as a engine, where everyone had their function

Because most people don't work as hard as I do.

People are dicks. It's unfortunate but true.

And even if the majority weren't, the minority would persecute said majority easily.

money is era of dependence , someone got to hold that dependence ...

Money is merely a representation of effort. You put in no effort youre worth zero money

Because that's retarded.

i like charity instead of paying in taxes

More proof taxes are shit.

Because if I want to trade a cow for some corn, it's pretty hard to divide the cow up.

teall that to "your" "ancestors"

You get more corn in that case dumb ass.

You dont know what tribal governments of the ancient past were, and they didnt give each other shit for free

"shit for free as long as you work" isnt free, they "money" in this instance is work. In a society with a monetary system they give you money for work, so that you can spend it on shit instead of just giving you shit. Whats the difference? As pointed out numerous times in this thread, bartering is inefficient and hard, money reflects value, it converts value into a tangible surrogate that can be divided into minute increments. So bartering instead of 1 trade involving 1 cow, now you can change that 1 cow into money and use it for many trades.

>Why don't you support a moneyless society, Sup Forums?
Shut up Wesley. Nobody has invented a Replicator or an infinite source of energy yet.

BUt being realistic only technology would puts us less dependent on money, for example unlimited energy > free

Manufactured items take a lot of effort to build and that effort is worth something.

Shit tier philosphy.

For one thing, energy is never unlimited, the universe is a finite system. For another, technology thus far has only served to convolute money systems, assuming it will do anything else in the future is unfounded

>be ugly manlet
>not strong enough to get laid
>not pretty enough to get laid
>can possibly become rich enough to get laid

This is the main reason people like living with currency.

another good one

because then the jews would just horde fucking EVERYTHING

Money is not the problem.
Usury is.

thats not absolute true and its very limited.
I say this because first prove me that this is the only universe existing .
Plus in our planet we have unlimited energy everywere the prob is lack of tech to harvest it .

But we already have fusion tech and nuclear power , and with alternative energys like Tidal Power, sea Wave Power, solar power , wind power,Geothermal Power

this

and stock market jewery

I agree with based Goebbels. Life sucks.

No we don't have unlimited energy, we have shitloads of energy. There is a big difference. Humanity has trended over time towards consuming more energy, and we are using energy at an increasing rate. When energy is consumed a portion of it is inevitably converted to entropy and lost. At some point humanity will consume all energy on a long enough time scale.

>mfw based NEET gobbles found his purpose

>mfw we will too

we're all gonna make it bros ;)

i think so too

Maybe I fall for all that Nicolas Tesla bullshit, but from a small amount of energy you could create a lot , my mistake when speaking ilimited but when I say in that way, is to resemble a huge amount of energy with such ambundance that the value is zero cents

I agree with you there. Currently the amount of potential energy to be harnessed is beyond comprehension. Tesla had good ideas for making massive amounts of energy freely accessible to the masses.

Where I think you are wrong is "creating a lot of energy from a small amount. The laws of thermodynamics always apply. Energy is not "created", it is converted from one form to another. Converting energy into a form useable by humans requires the use of more energy. The goal of tesla, any many physicists since, was the efficient transformation of energy. How can we make the most amount of energy accesible while expending the least amount of energy possible

Because money is not the root of all Evils in society. That would be greed.

And you can never get rid of greed.

Well the tehcnical part I can't say because I lack that knowledge . Yes not created but converted or amplifieded.
He had the idea of harvesting energy from sky with antennas right ? Was it some sort of radio frequency reversing ?

Because money allows for more sophisticated division of labor. I would hate to be working for my electricity provider, grocer, etc. every time I needed one of their services. It's much more convenient for me to have a trade that I can be appraised and converted into currency that I can exchange for goods and services.

Im not entirely certain what his ideas for harvesting energy was. His biggest breakthroughs were in conducting electricity, so transporting it. He pioneered the technology of the alternating current (AC) which is essentially more efficient than the alternative direct current (DC). So AC was a big step in energy conservation/transmission

Because a moneyless society requires an absolute perfect morality where no one cheats, and with all of the non-white and tare mamzer Satan seeds existing it is not possible because their inclination is evil and sheer wickedness, they will always cheat, so we use money as a medium of trade instead. If it was all Adam/Pure blooded Nordic race, we could. Only a truly enlightened society that has reached the pinnacle of enlightenment such as a nirvana society can ever have such a moneyless society utopia.

In a moneyless society, only the middle class people with a real work ethic would survive. Capitalist pigs and niggers would join eachother in exile from that glorious utopia. It will never happen.

In todays standards yes , even if the network is corrupted and this is were dependence starts

The potential for abuse and dependency does not render money inherently inefficient.

Why not eliminate the Earth. Without matter there will be no greed and no one getting ahead of their lessers.

Harvesting in the sense of having antennas harvesting energy from the sky (many tempest in the sky many energy) , anyway there are other alternatives even from fusion of molecules in water that i heard.

But we are entering also in the nano era or we are in it already.
So it's hard to predict what's coming and what changes are to come .

that quote is out of context
Joey is talking about usuery
3rd reich had a free market
only regulation was to prevent subversion.

have some truth about money:
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tfw you realize national socialists are economically illiterate

marx was lightyears ahead of these fools, at least he only proposed medieval economics.

Well the money network is not the problem , it's the "economy" behind it

I'm not arguing otherwise, but money itself is here to stay and anyone who thinks differently is foolish to do so.

I have the same opinion , and today is money tomorrow is digital coins or credits

nice dubs, checked.

Yeah, shits gonna get nuts. However, as fast as we are finding ways to obtain energy, we are finding ways to use it faster. It is a balancing act.

Bretty much.

Because if we don't have any type of currency, trading and general interactions in forms of work would be much harder.

I serious expecting to really get nuts ^^ This internet is getting boring anyway

The internet is just a step towards complete connectedness. Eventually humans will have chips in their brains that connect them to a new internet where we simply think in order to communicated. Our brains impulses will be transmitted wherever we desire and we will be able to access information instantaneously in the same way.

The day this happens I am going innawoods for good.

He said nothing wrong , nazis were against both CAPITALISM AND COMMUNISM , they knew that both ideology were created to enslave people

ok lol you will get bored eventualy

no way breh, with internetz we sanitize and compartmentalize. The wild is pure sensation. Its you who will get bored

>Nazism is litteraly an ideology where all people's only goal is to further their State

Also any and all retards reffering to the neomercantilism kike shit falselcalled capitalism is a moron falling for Marxist rhetoric
What we have today is the result of Marxist attempts at destroying capitalism by deliberately sabotaging it through government and blaming capitalism.

Capitalism has never been the friend of Jews which is why they've always worked to destroy it in favor of either direct government ownership or private ownership and government control