Redpill me on early abortions, Sup Forums

Redpill me on early abortions, Sup Forums.

Is it a thing that people should legally be able to have based on their own discretion?

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It's something women love to do

It's basically voluntary eugenics.

Yeah, you're killing a baby. But the kind of person who would do that probably shouldn't be raising a kid, so in a fucked up way it works out.

Let me ask you this: Do you want more or less blacks?

>According to 2010 census data, African Americans make up 12.6% of the U.S. population2 but the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) reports that black women accounted for 35.4% of all abortions in 2009. The Guttmacher Institute (AGI) puts the percentage of black abortions at 30% of the U.S. total.

I have done about 20 of them as part of my training for family medicine. AMA.

Stop killing your children!!!

Sure, I'll bite. Is OP's picture accurate?

What are the women who get them like throughout the entire thing?

Like how do they act?

Is there any regret in the women's eyes?

And if yes, how long does it last?

Is it real genuine sorrow/shame or is it your typical "emotional" woman routine?

>your killing a baby
Things die, get over it.Its not even a person, OR a baby.It feels nothing, it thinks nothing.Its a human plant.

>Let me ask you this: Do you want more or less blacks?

This is a highly appropriate question....the people seeking these procedures are straight hood rats. There is an occasional 40 yo with a mortgage who can't afford a 4th kid, or a college kid with a boyfriend who comes in pregnant...but by and large the vast majority of these people are absolute 100% fucking scum. And it pains me as a physician to speak about my patients that way...but it's fucking true. They have gold plated teeth. They dress like gangsters. The boyfriends - in the rare case they are actually accompanying the girl- reek of marijuana and barely make eye contact with me or shake my hand. It is fucking depressing. They are vermin and I support aborting their fetuses AS WELL as protecting their rights of self ownership over their own bodies. They are after all still humans and endowed by our creator with all the inalienable rights as the rest of us. If they want a plastic tube with 20 lbs of suction stuck up their cervix to remove whatever is inside there then sobeit. It is their right, and it benefits us all that they are able to exercise it. That is all, next question.

Everyone knows you don't get a soul till ur two until then you are just a ball of cells full of poop and puke.

please

sometimes its hard to know if pol is bullshitting. does an aborted fetus actually look like that?

It's a fucking tumor that turns into a financial drain for 18 years. If the woman wants an abortion go the fuck ahead.

no

2, and 3, and a half months, idiot

I say we carpet bomb Africa and the Middle East with abortifacients so that no fetus makes it to term for at least a hundred years.

I'd suggest we do the same thing to Sweden but they're clearly way ahead of the game on that

Justified if the birth endangers either the mother or child or both, or if the child will be born incomplete physically, mentally or genetically

Last thing I'd want for my child is to be born cursing their existence

do you really mind tens of thousands of nigger babies being chopped up and gored?

Some people genuinely believe that Life does NOT begin at conception.
And they're entitled to that belief.
And it is a belief.
And since The U.S. was founded in part to allow for religious freedom then we have to protect their right to have their abortions, as wrong as they are.
God will take care of the rest.
Don't like it?
Then there's the door.

>Sure, I'll bite. Is OP's picture accurate?

Yes, although at the planned parenthood where I rotated they just put he parts in a glass tray on top of a light, not a fancy container like that. When the abortion is being done, the parts (if it is a >8 wga fetus) end up in a suction container, basically a glass jar. It has paper wrapped around it so the "mom" (NOT really a "mom" per se) can't see what it is. When the fetus is fully suctioned out (indicated by a sickening "thunk" that tells you the head probably finally just got collapsed and sucked down) the jar is taken out to a backroom where someone literally puours it in a kitchen sieve and washes off the blood/mucous and then puts the parts in the glass tray. They sort out the parts sometimes arranging them in a pattern so all 4 extremities and the entire head is there, then they report back to the procedure room to give a thumbs up and it is over. I don't know what happens to the parts after that, I think they go in the trash with medical waste to be honest.

Anything over 16 weeks is very. VERY..different.

Lol Zika is a government plan to control population.

2nd followup....yes that is very accurate in OP's pic, that is probably a 12-13 week or so fetus.

fuck no.

my long ex used to flush them.

>Redpill me on early abortions
Literally nothing wrong with abortions.

That being said liberals and democrats have fucking twisted it. We had some slut on stage bragging about the number of abortions she has had.

Abortions are like welfare, a mandatory thing for society that should be shameful but niggers are retards have gotten people to think its normal and socially acceptable.

>What are the women who get them like throughout the entire thing?
>Like how do they act?

Some are very quiet and embarrassed. Some get emotional. I'd say about 1/3rd act like they are at the fucking dentist for a routine cleaning. I have seen them text during the procedure.

Sometimes it can be very painful and they get sedation (Midazolam [basically makes you drunk and not remember things] and Fentanyl [opiate that reduces pain])...these are the ones that can say some really loopy stuff.

An aside...the stupid part of all of this is that forms of birth control called IUDs are 99.9% effective - way more than "the pill" - and last for 4-10 YEARS....yet if the person is uninsured we CAN'T give them one on the same day of the abortion. They have to come back. Many don't.....until they need another abortion. All these abortions could be avoided if more of these women had IUDs.

What about when there's no guaranteed upbringing for the child?

Even here in the US the foster care system is terrible and the people who go through it might as well had been living on the streets half the time.

>Is there any regret in the women's eyes?
>And if yes, how long does it last?
>Is it real genuine sorrow/shame or is it your typical "emotional" woman routine?

Generally I don't see much emotion on display. They are there for a reason, they WANT the abortion. Having a baby is a really big deal...not just financially/socially but medically. It is pretty dangerous, statistically. Sometimes during the abortion they get a little upset, maybe 5-10% of the time, but for the most part not. The nurses there are very good at making people feel comfortable. They are also extremely protective about people's privacy and rights to decide what they want.

>They are there for a reason, they WANT the abortion.
If my dog is in pain and dying, I WANT to put him out of his misery. That doesn't mean I have a smile on my face when I go to the vet to put him down.

But you also mentioned they say strange things on the relaxer drugs. Like what?

>I have seen them text during the procedure.
Jesus.

>please
>sometimes its hard to know if pol is bullshitting. does an aborted fetus actually look like that?


Yes, for a >12 week fetus....legs, hands, toes, facial features. The head is usually in a couple parts. The jaw tends to be easy to find. The ribcage tends to be intact. each of the legs and arms are usually found. It looks 100% like the OP's pic.

Anything under 10 weeks and things pretty much just start to look like mush.

>>I have seen them text during the procedure.
>Jesus.

And that's only in the 20-30 or so that I've done....some people do thousands and thousands of these over a career, and I can't even fathom what kind of shit they've seen. The absolute filth of humanity.

America would be like 40% white right now if abortion didn't exist.

Can you talk more about IUD?

>If my dog is in pain and dying, I WANT to put him out of his misery. That doesn't mean I have a smile on my face when I go to the vet to put him down.
>But you also mentioned they say strange things on the relaxer drugs. Like what?


Well yea, I can't say I've ever seen people smile during it. They do all seem to grasp some aspect of the gravity of the situation at some point.

They sometimes hallucinate or make jokes if they get sedation. Though sedation is rare, because they need a ride home if they get it, and about 75% of these girls/women are there alone and have no one to drive them.

No, anyone can look that up.

Let him talk about personal experiences that aren't easy to come by everyday

Any of the girls have pussy stank so bad you just wanted to throw up?

Instain mothers killing their babbys is older than civilization.

Here's the thing. If you think it's a life, you cannot be 'pro-choice' because by thinking it is a life, killing it is essentially a homicide done on a whim (barring life of the mother). This also brings the emotional question of rape, incest, etc to which if you still believe it is a life, you cannot accept abortions due to it still being a life, regardless of how it was made.

To answer whether or not you think it is a life, answer this question:

Say I stab a pregnant woman. She lives but the fetus inside her "dies". I am now in court for the crime. In addition to the charge of stabbing the woman (whether it be Assault with a deadly weapon, attempted murder, whatever), what should I be charged with for destroying the fetus? Manslaughter? Murder? Or maybe I should be charged with vandalism if it is not a life. Now I'm not debating the legality of it, just what you think. If I should be charged with vandalism then it is not a life, but property of the woman and then she should be free to do with it what she wants, right? Or maybe I should not be charged at all for killing it?

It's pretty cruel, but such is life. If someone is willing to do it, i would rather they don't end up with a child to raise anyways.

>Here's the thing. If you think it's a life, you cannot be 'pro-choice' because by thinking it is a life, killing it is essentially a homicide
>you cannot be 'pro choice'

I think it's a life, and I'm also pro choice.

Anyone got destroyed fetus photos from abortions?

So what's the age range and monetary "class" that is most common?

Are there a lot of girls under 18 or is it mostly older women?

>Can you talk more about IUD?

It is literally a little plastic T shaped device that gets stuck inside a uterus to dispense a homone to prevent pregnancy. The procedure takes 2 minutes and is done in the office. It's easy. It is the next best thing to being sterilized. They have been around for maybe 5-10 years, during my residency one of the senior attending doctors put in tons of them and was very adament about all the good they do for women individually and for society in general. My eyes were really opened to them at that point.

We HAVE to keep these women from getting pregnant. Their kids become welfare dependent criminal parasites on society.

There are a couple types- Mirena which is most popular and is hormonal (which is contraindicated for some women) and lasts I believe 3-5 years. There is the Skyla which is intended for women who've never had a kid (and therefore have super tight cervices that can't tolerate the Mirena's size). And then there is the Paraguard, which is just plain copper and no hormones. It lasts TEN years. Ten years they can have that in there and it prevents pregnancy 99.9% of the time. Hard to put into words what that is worth both to them and to society that has to deal with their rotten offspring.

OP pic didn't quench your thirst?

I find that to be a contradiction then.

If you think it's a life, why is it allowed to end it when they feel like it?

Because when I say "life" I mean life as equal as yours, mine, and any baby sitting in their cribs. So our lives can't be ended on a whim by someone else legally (and don't get philosophical on how the government can kill us and not be punished by themselves or something)

oh hello there!

What's your nigger to non-nigger ratio in the abortion business? How many unbaked niglets have you scrambled?

I just don't care.

There are too many subject and things to get worked up about and abortions just aren't the fight for me. I dont really care if people get them so long as we dont have to pay for them.

>So what's the age range and monetary "class" that is most common?
>Are there a lot of girls under 18 or is it mostly older women?

Ages are usually 15-25, occasionally someone over 30. Overall average is about 19.

At least half are inner city welfare types. Another 25% just young lower middle class. Occasionally there's an upper class white suburb woman.

lost.

Nope, I thirst for the dead bodies of the unborn.

I think a cat or a horse is life, but I don't consider them equal to me.

Now I know obviously those things aren't human so it's not a great comparison. But a fetus isn't equal to a fully conscious person. And when it really comes down to it I know you'd admit I'm right. A fetus is alive, but it's not the same as a more developed human

This would be the ideal contraceptive for a girlfriend or a long going fuck buddy. What would you recommend for a one-night stand other than a condom to make them safer?

There is nothing but problems if abortions were not available.
It is either some religious ad hominem or some else retard trying to push his belivies and moral standpoint on a pregnant women who's situation varies and it's literally their last resort to cancel the horrors of shitty childhood and bad parenting. You may say something idiotic like 'maby think be f0 puttin tha' muh dik inda pussy', but it's same naive view as letting rapefugees into euro to assume that black pigmented gentleman and the teenagers would be using birth control.

It is not a child, it's a child to be formed in the future.

Also thanks for the answer I really appreciate the info you are presenting in this thread.

I can understand that point of view.

Do you think there is a point in which it becomes a life while still in the womb?

Some think right at conception, some think not until it's born, and some think somewhere in between, which is where I feel is right, but I'm not certain when because I don't know enough about fetal development.

He still had a valid point. The people who get abortions shouldn't be raising children anyway. Saving tax payers money by not having another shitty person leeching off the system their whole lives.

Well let me rephrase that actually.

Do you think there is a point in which it becomes a life comparable to a 'fully conscious person' while still in the womb?

Looks delicious to me.

I gotta go to bed guise. Hope you view this issue objectively though. And from a standpoint of a person's right to control his/her own body... that means a right to take a pill or a right to use a procedure to remove things you don't want growing inside you. But on top of that also view this from a standpoint of society's well being. These are not babies that will ever contribute to the world, sadly. They will be bullies in schools, they will not learn anything, they will be criminals, they will hurt people and take resources from tax payers, they will use and sell drugs, and they will cause all sorts of costs on all of us who are responsible. Lastly....if they are male...they will perpetuate the cycle all over again causing more unwanted pregnancies. Also keep in mind that these procedures wouldn't be necessary if it were easier (and less difficult to become educated about) other forms of prevention in the first place- birth control, emergency contraception (plan B) and medical abortions (the "abortion pill"- given at 5-8 weeks.

Post some of God's perfect creations.

why do they only abort the fetus when it looks human?

why not abort it earlier when it's just a bunch of cells

Edgy: the post.

98% of aborted babies are

>minority
>low income
>birth defects

literally nothing of value is lost.

You will keep all Zika babies and give them to pro-lifers

actually, biomed major here, most fetuses and foreskins go to skin farms to grow skin for burn victims or whoever else needs skin, maybe even organs.

IUDs can be incredibly dangerous and painful though.

>what is the absolute youngest age of a premature birth baby where it survived to be a viable, non handicapped adult.

That is blatantly untrue. The foreskins go to Synagogue.

I guess it would come down to the "circumstances" if I was in charge of deciding every individual abortion. But if I had to choose an all encompassing law ideally it'd be somthing like the woman would have a week or two to decide once she found out she was pregnant. So not so much about how developed the fetus is. Of course how do you enforce that? You can't know when the woman found out she was pregnant.

So I really don't know. And then of course you get to the point where you have to decide how different an 8 month fetus is from a 1 week old baby

have you ever thought that theyre nervous and afraid and their phone is pretty much the only thing they have to help calm their nerves you fucking idiot? ive texted throughout ever medical procedure ive been awake and orientated for.

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20pds of suction? Holy shit m8.

>ITT I tell you what you're allowed to believe

Ok dude, I'm sorry you can't seem to wrap your head around the concepts of utilitarianism or the lesser of two evils.

Good luck in life with your terribly narrow perspective.

Tryin to eat here, senpai.

See the problem with deciding it like that (for me at least) is that you then have to ask if a born baby is a conscious being.

Just want to let you know you disgust and repulse me.

>Lastly....if they are male...they will perpetuate the cycle all over again causing more unwanted pregnancies.
Really? Because it's the male who won't use the birth control? Are you saying women can't consent to sex?

>So our lives can't be ended on a whim by someone else legally (and don't get philosophical on how the government can kill us and not be punished by themselves or something)

>Corruption = philosophy to this joker

People's lives are ended on whim pretty often. You've clearly never dealt with the medical field where these kinds of decisions are made en masse regularly.

To stretch your view slightly it would seem that you'd be opposed to restricting access to ANY AND ALL available medical treatments for terminal illnesses, but this is literally a daily thing.

Once more I'd encourage you to get a little perspective.
(I hope for your sake that you're terribly young and that this is just naivety.)

I save these in case I get into an argument with an abortion encouraging slut.

Are you joking?

fine, some foreskins are brewed into an elixir to help extend the jew vitality, but also a good portion of them go towards skin grafts, ive heard rumors of them going up into high end skin creams though, and if thats true then its 100 percent the jew to blame.

It's killing human life. It may not be able to speak or feel yet, but it has potential, it is an individual, and it is alive. It is not the mother's body, as it contains its own set of DNA, and will grow to be a separate person. Killing it for any reason besides saving the mother's life is murder. If you don't want kids, use birth control or a fucking condom instead.

Ever try that talking point with regard to child support?
Can't have it both ways.

>being this triggered
femanon?

So, you're admitting that rather than trying to reason with logic you fall back on emotions.

>only saving grave this leaf has is that it did say it uses them on women.

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even if its an abortion its still a medical procedure and there are certain types of people who are anxious and have to take their mind off of it, whether its a vaccine, biopsy or abortion. i really dont see the problem with being on their phone, should they be lighting candles and mourning during the procedure?

someone who would kill there kid isnt gonna be a good parent anyway so just let em kill it before it born and spare it a life of shit

Some viruses have their own DNA... does that mean you should suppress your own immune system and help infect other people to perpetuate that unique life?

Get a real argument.

I'm a pregnant woman myself so I have that excuse of emotional arguments already going for me.

what about minors who are raped? this exact thing happened to my aunt when she was 15 by someone else in the family, i suppose she should raise her incest child and drop of school cause it had potential huh?

>Thinking a woman would use an 8-syllable word

Social hygiene. Much preferable for everyone if unwilling or uncapable mothers don't place the burden on the system and raise kids who are destined to be poor and uneducated with a low quality of life. It's actually very humane in my opinion.

>Really? Because it's the male who won't use the birth control? Are you saying women can't consent to sex?

Come on....what are we now stupid? You know how this goes. The young thugs run around fucking everything they can get their hands on and then running away from the consequences. This is not a civilized world, it is the hood. The girls, sure they consented (usually), but are half the equation only biologically....while socially...culturally, they are not the main part of it..it's horny guys and testosterone fueling most of this.

Anyway I'm out for real this time.

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Abortion eugenic. Alternative is Orphanage. No money. No pay. You die in sack.