Say Jerusalem isn't Israels capital

>say Jerusalem isn't Israels capital
>thousands of american flags rush to their defense

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you forgot Aussies and Canadians plus some islands

I literally couldn't care less.

It doesn't do us any favors to pick a side in their "who fucking cares" dispute.

look you crazy Evangelical nutt cases, the second coming of Jesus will never happen

You don't need to pick a side. One country owns Jerusalem and governs from Jerusalem. One side throws a temper tantrum because they think Jews should be exterminated.

Wow what a "side".

hahahahahah fucking shitskin got soo butthurt in this thread he created a new one. the absolute state of these savages

This is 100% a meme. I've never ever met anyone who thinks "wow we need to support Israel because of the second coming of Jesus". I'm sure they exist but as for me I support Israel because:

-Israel isn't perfect but no worse than most countries are and they are literally struggling against genocide.
-They have one tiny tiny strip of land, Arabs conquered massive amounts of land all around them and still aren't happy and want Jews dead.
-By far Israel is a better place to live and more accepting of minorities than any other nation in the Middle East
-Jews don't control the world
-Jews don't control the media
-Jews aren't evil or opposed to the goyim or whatever
-Enough said

>lololol they butthurt amirite?

it surely will, but it won't be forced into being through the distracting antics of the evangelical's misguided lobbying

Rabbinical Jews (Pharisees) have no right to Jersusalem because they rejected the Messiah. Case closed.

Fuck off with this.They have a right to their home you medieval LARP shithead.

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the both of you have this weird idea to apply artificial points of view to the world as it exists

you have no more right to create a state that hasn't existed for thousands of years any more than you do to reintroduce a mastodon into one of our modern ecosystems

>look at me, I replied to everyone in the thread

>waaaa amerikins stop liking what i don't like

who said I liked it then?

>the both of you have this weird idea to apply artificial points of view to the world as it exists

"The world as it exists"
-Israel exists
-Jerusalem is Israel's capital.

That's not artificial that is literally the state of reality right now. UN is voting to not recognize reality which is just retarded.

>you have no more right to create a state that hasn't existed for thousands of years
No you have no right to "create a state". (Whatever that entails). But the people of Israel did create a state. Called Israel. Arabs also decided they hated the Jews and tried to kill them and genocide them out of the Middle East and when that failed try to create their own state on top of Israel. I don't give a shit. Go ahead and create a state. But Israel exists and owns Jerusalem and the world can deal with it.

I find it really weird that so many American politicians openly side with Israel. What's the point of announcing that so openly?
And why does the average American voter gobble it up?

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It's Christian. joos and mudslimes can h*ck off

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>the people of Israel did create a state

sure, in the same vein that Cecil Rhodes might create a state

Jewish puppets, they betrayed our lord Jesus.

>I find it really weird that so many American politicians openly side with Israel. What's the point of announcing that so openly?
>And why does the average American voter gobble it up?

Because we aren't pussies? Like? For me its just plain common sense, see: and .

Why do so many Euros openly side against Jewish people? And so many Euros gobble it up? Do you still think Jews are eating Christian babies? Are you afraid of Arabs coming to truck you? What?

it is weird isn't it? it's literally not our country

we also prop up their military with over a billion dollars of our own military budget

>sure, in the same vein that Cecil Rhodes might create a state
Nah fuck off, Jewish people are indigenous to the area and are exercising their right to self-determination in the face of multiple attempted genocides by Arabs and Euros alike.

Fuck offfff thank you.

"Arabs are buttmad" is actually an argument for, desu

>that delicious Arab salt
Lmao

They should have Tel Aviv as the capital officially but govern from Jerusalem. Tel Aviv represents Israel more accurately.

wtf? because we do think it is the right thing to do. you just hate jews because you got rich off their gold teeth.

I think you can fuck off, and more than that, you can get right the fuck out of this country

There are Christians in Israel too. Israel by FAR is the most multiethnic, multicultural, and multireligious-friendly nation in the region.

are you retarded? what do you mean by "our country". there are countries we support. we call them "allies". look it up.

Would you also say San Francisco represents America accurately?

Waht does "official capital" even mean? You call something your capital even though its not your capital and you do no governing from there? What does "represent" even mean?

Jerusalem IS the capital of Israel and that's life.

Nah you can fuck off, Nazi shit.

They probably think that israel is an american state in americas.
I wonder how people there would react if instead of israel were told that they send billions of dollars annually for free to the middle-eastern non-christian and over-religious shithole?

what is supposedly an ally wears more the color of a leech

yes sf represents shitskin supporters

oh there it is, there it is!

I was waiting for you to call me a nazi, lel you have no argument that can stand so you fall back on that tired crap

I don't hate jews, I don't care about the whole mess, I don't see why we need to be involved in their politics, it doesn't benefit us, so really, kindly kill yourself

To me as an average voter it really wouldn't matter that much if a politician supports Israel. What I'd rather want to know if the politician is competent, a decent human being and if we share similar views concerning our country.
Him openly voicing his support for Israel is completely irrelevant to me compared to domestic problems.

I would like to add an argument against: JUDEN

exactly, it's not our country, so it's really very irreverent to our concerns

>middle-eastern non-christian and over-religious shithole?
Israel has very good religious tolerance and a solid standard of living too, I'd much rather be a religious minority or atheist in Israel than in Syria or Saudi Arabia or whatever. So you can fuck off with that.

ALSO we give tons of money to Iraq, Jordan, Egypt etc etc etc too so yeah

We don't need to be involved, we just need to recognize reality. And you ARE a nazi shit if you want Jews exterminated so fuck off.

>Supporting Israel causes massive butthurt in the antisemitic Europe.
Big fucking surprise. You fucking gnomes still living off the jew gold.

you seem to have made a great deal of ASSumptions idiot

Why should Israel have Jerusalem? What claim do they have? None biblically, they are all less pure than samaritans technically not Jews by the Torah nor are they Christians, which would also qualify them.

>ALSO we give tons of money to Iraq, Jordan, Egypt etc etc etc too so yeah
yeah.. that really makes everything better right?

Do you mean it's completely irrelevant or if the would be to completely identical politicians whose only differences were israel support you would vote for the one which opinion regardless of israel is closer to you

The only people that care about isreal are politicians and jews. Literally nobody gives a shit.

LESS PURE THAN SAMARITANS

LESS PURE THAN SAMARITANS

LESS PURE THAN SAMARITANS

LESS PURE THAN SAMARITANS

>Why should Israel have Jerusalem?

1) Its not even a matter of "should". They HAVE Jerusalem, see: . Voting doesn't change that. We aren't voting to give Jerusalem to Israel, we are voting to see if we can recognize reality or not. Its like voting to see what color the sky is. Israel owns Jerusalem. The real story is why should we pretend that they don't?

2) Even on the "should" level see: . Arabs own all the surrounding lands (and then some) they have genocided many many other indigenous groups, and I'm not interested in letting them genocide the Jews (which is what they already attempted to do). I'm not interested. Fuck off with this. They have plenty of territory and plenty of nations, Jewish people have 1.

>What claim do they have?
The fact that they literally own it? Once again see the first post ITT.

> None biblically,
Wow you are a fucktard, by this logic you have no claim to post on Sup Forums "biblically" either. Protestant scum fuck off.

We are a generous people and always have been, if not for us Europe would be 3rd world too.

Samaritans were genocided by Arabs you want to genocide Jews too? FUCK OFF.

and Sup Forums apparently

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I don't know who is comfortable with the idea of being enmeshed in the politics of an apartheid state, let alone to be actively propping one up.

Don't you think it's a little odd how openly even your presidential candidates support Israel during their campaigns? There are by god more pressing domestic issues they could be discussing. And yet, somehow supporting Israel is always a topic they discuss.
I mean it's a country across the globe which most Americans probably couldn't even point out in map. It should be completely irrelevant to the average Joe.

We literally re-created Europe from ashes after WWII. There would be no fucking Europe as we know it today without our generosity.

Why is it that the only people freaking out over this Jerusalem thing ALWAYS have flags of countries that have accepted in floods of muslim migrants?

So we should turn a blind eye to genocide like the Europeans in WWII??

It is, you are right. So? You think the world governments choose their allies based on the opinions of their populations?

>Israel
>getting genocided

that was smart statesmanship on top of being humanitarian, a europe left decimated by its conflict would be easy prey for the soviets

You’re less pure than Samaritan’s, who were rejected by the Old Testament faithful because they mixed during the Assyrian captivity.

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Arabs have repeatedly tried to genocide the Jewish population starting on day 1. Look at how much land they conquered, the only place they don't rule is that tiny tiny strip by the sea and they still are tearing at it and throwing a fit. Its 100% attempted genocide.

Prot scum fuck off. And Samaritans were genocided by Arabs.

well our foreign policy is inspired by the president, but our representatives in congress okay the final word, and yes, they answer to the public!

Well some public support surely would be in order.
Again, I don't find it weird that America supports Israel. What I find weird is that this support is this vocal. America has other allies, yet you don't hear a politician say "I stand with Germany" or "I stand with France".

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you drive hard at that point, but really, the presence of the state of Israel is not devoid of its own conquest, not to mention the terrorism that was used by the dominant groups to wrest control of the territory from the hapless British

they are not easy to genocide partially thanks to our support but mostly because they are tough as fuck but still. middle east is full dangerous savages. so there is a risk of genocide, yes. israel is the only civilized country in that god forsaken region full of islamic filth. we sure need to support them.

Less pure than Samaritans m8. You’re a fucking Slav, an Arab or a W*stern European.

>tfw the arabs are still mad because they got their asses handed to them back in '67

Will Sup Forums defend literally anything Trump does?

well like i said, israel's situation is unique. they are trying to survive surrounded by enemies. they are basically in a state of an ongoing war.

Germany and France aren't facing genocide.

I drive hard because it is true, and the "terrorism" at the Brits was because Brits were deliberately trying to put population control on the Jewish people in order to appease Arabs who didn't like Jewish migration. (while Jews were facing genocide in Europe mind you, Jews were the original refugees and Arabs wanted nothing to do with them)

Racist scum fuck off.

USA first recognized Jerusalem as Israel's capital in the mid 90s (congress), and even Obama openly said it was Israel's capital (because it is).

Fuck Trump, he is a meme and I hate him and what he has done to thsi country but Jerusalem is very much the capital of Israel.

>indigenous to the area

so all the hebrews the romans genocided in the destruction of Jerusalem is just gonna be ignored again? The few survivors were sold into slavery or forced to convert. Modern day palestinians have more blood relation to ancient hebrews than the jews.
mondoweiss.net/2008/09/israeli-historian-palestinians-are-biological-descendants-of-bibles-jews/

Why do you think they rebranded phariseeism to judaism and call hatred of jews "anti-semitism"? It's an ad campaign to lie and convince people modern day jews are direct descendents of ancient jews.

They literally put themselves there and then started to whine about it

you basically accuse everyone, and defend every action of your pet group

you are intensely biased

trump is a fucking moron and i have no idea why the fuck he cares about jerusalem, may be a 5d chess move.
but i support israel and i don't go to pol
totally separate things

If Jerusalem is the capital of Israel because they are indigenous, does that mean all of the US should belong to Native Americans because they are indigenous?

>so all the hebrews the romans genocided in the destruction of Jerusalem is just gonna be ignored again?
Yes Jewish people faced multiple genocides throughout history and are facing another attempted genocide, and?
>Modern day palestinians have more blood relation to ancient hebrews
Nope, "modern day palestinians" are the same asshole Arab conquers who genocided countless indigenous groups of the Middle East. But go on.

No I don't, Israel isn't perfect and never has been. They do recieve a hugely disproportionate amount of hate though and that is 100% rooted in anti-semitism.

>If I put it in quotation marks, its almost as if those british and arabs were never murdered by jews :)

It doesn't JUST belong to Israel because they are indigenous.

Jewish people are indigenous to the area AND they declare Jerusalem their capital AND they literally own Jerusalem AND they govern from Jerusalem AND Jerusalem is majority Israeli etc.

See There is no other argument to be made, no matter which way you slice it, the only reason to side against Israel is buttmad Arabs.

Its almost as if Jewish people themselves were facing genocide and being killed and attacked by Arabs and Euros you idiot.

You didn't read the link, did you?

. The jews themselves admit they have a lot of different ancestors, mostly OUTSIDE the middle east. Until Isreal was created, then they swept that under the rug and demand everyone admit they are pureblooded ancient israeli.

They are not indigenous they are less pure than Samaritans

the idea that any criticism is based in antisemitism is a cancerous and dishonest distraction

it's also insulting

>In most Jewish populations, these male line ancestors appear to have been mainly Middle Eastern. For example, Ashkenazi Jews share more common paternal lineages with other Jewish and Middle Eastern groups than with non-Jewish populations in areas where Jews lived in Eastern Europe, Germany and the French Rhine Valley. This is consistent with Jewish traditions in placing most Jewish paternal origins in the region of the Middle East.[14][3]

Israelis might be mixed (due to the rape that goes along with genocide), but they are primarily Middle Eastern. ALSO not all Middle Eastern groups are the same. Arabs are not Chaldeans are not Assyrians are not Turks are not Kurds etc. etc. You can't genocide Jews and give their home to some other Middle Eastern group because "Durr this totally different culture should get this patch of land even though they already conquered and genocided almost all of the rest of the Middle East". You fuck.

any criticism you give of black people is because YOU'RE RACIST!!!!!

honky ass muthufucka

Explain why does Israel/Jews get such a disproportionate amount of hate, genocide attempts, denial of their autonomy, etc?

Most Levite Ashkenazi have a fucking R1a Y chromosome.

And Judas had more Jewish blood than Jesus.

because they have as much legitimacy as any colonial state?

Levites are only 4% of Ashkenazi Jews. Majority of Jews, including Ashkenazi Jews have Middle Eastern Y chromosome and majority Middle Eastern genetics but don't let a little Gentile rape of Jewish women get in the way of your antisemitism.

Perhaps the permanent psychological damage caused by circumcision makes it easier to be brainwashed into supporting Israel.

Unlike Arabs, Jewish people are indigenous to the region so you can fuck off there too. No matter how you slice it, its anti-semitism.

It was probably Jewish men talking gentile sex slaves rather than the other way around.

Then the Y chromosome would be Jewish not Genitle. The reason for widespread Gentile Y chromosomes among Levites (a tiny minority of Ashkenazi Jews mind), is because of Gentile rape of Jews.

that's a crock

you are a champion at sticking to one false point though, I'll give you that